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Report: No supplemental discipline from Sens-Habs melee

May 6, 2013, 10:46 AM EDT

After a controversial Game 3 of their Eastern Conference quarterfinal, the Ottawa Senators and Montreal Canadiens have both escaped further punishment and won’t be subjected to any disciplinary hearings.

Sunday’s contest — a 6-1 Ottawa win — was marred by a third period that saw the teams combine for 210 penalty minutes in the third period alone.

There were 14 fighting majors, eight game misconducts and a slew of controversial moments, including this Rene Bourque elbow on Cory Conacher:

P.K. Subban vs Kyle Turris hockey fight . + Bourque/Conacher incident. May 5, 2013 - Created at yt2gif.com

There was also some controversy surrounding Montreal defenseman Josh Gorges, who looked to have intentionally shot the puck at Sens forward Kyle Turris in the very late stages of the game:

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The two teams will be back in action on Tuesday night (7 p.m. ET, CNBC) in Ottawa. The Senators lead the series two games to one.

  1. mydadyourmom - May 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Brutal – Bourque should get two games minimum.

    • elvispocomo - May 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM

      But Brown should have gotten something for his knee and elbow combo hit he tried to throw last week yet skated away with nothing. This is much less dangerous than that. No injury means no suspension according to the NHL, as much as I’d prefer it to be otherwise.

    • wingsdjy - May 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM

      So Abdelkader gets 2 games, but Bourque gets nothing? I’m fine with the Adbelkader punishment, but Shanny needs to at least be consistent.

      • 19to77 - May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM

        Ah, but Abderkader isn’t wearing a Canadiens jersey, is he?

    • tycobbfromfangraphs - May 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM

      I’m official done with the sport, repeat offender done something that blatant and nothing? It’s time for me to put the NHL with the NBA and forget about it.

      • gradyroy - May 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM

        Bye!! Go watch badminton is you want a sport with no contact.

      • tycobbfromfangraphs - May 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        lol spoken by some fat lump of garbage that has never played in his life. Another internet tough guy who who pee his pants if he tried lacing them up for an hour with me and my friends.

        Yes yes you think Rene Bourque should be allowed to elbow guys in the face (again) while others may not. And if someone jump Bourque like they should, the league will come down on them for doing the job Shanahan should have done himself.

        Now go get your shine box you fat dumpy piece of garbage

      • tycobbfromfangraphs - May 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

        And oh, LMAO @ guys who wear sunglasses in his house, to take profile pictures while smoking a cigar.
        Over compensating much?

      • ibieiniid - May 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM

        bad timing. playoffs in FULL swing…. as evidenced by this series.

    • sabatimus - May 6, 2013 at 12:13 PM

      What a fricking JOKE Shanahan is. Absolute JOKE.

    • sabatimus - May 6, 2013 at 12:21 PM

      Come on, Ottawa. Beat up these punks and win the series.

    • sportsfaninyyc - May 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM

      As a Habs fan, he deserves 5 for that elbow. PHT is the only site saying no fines/ suspensions. No other sports sites have reported anything yet. There may be disciplinary action coming yet.

      • sabatimus - May 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM

        Really? God I hope it’s still being worked out. I did think it was awfully early for the league office to have its plan (or lack thereof) in place.

      • sabatimus - May 6, 2013 at 2:23 PM

        Actually, SBNation and CBSSports are reporting what PHT is reporting, to name just two that I’m familiar with.

    • rootbeerjem - May 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM

      Bourque Bourque Bourque…

      Is it that Shanahan has tried and failed to get this little piece of s#!t to change his ways and has given up? I kinda hope he doesn’t get suspended, that way, Neal and Kassian can give Bourque a little “re-education” on Tuesday.

  2. nickh7020 - May 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    These are the type of games that give hockey a bad rap. This is also why most of the country will never get into the great game of hockey. They think its a bunch of thugs with sticks beating on each other.
    We who love hockey know betterbut this kind of game, during our playoff season, does not help.

    • nunan - May 6, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      I disagree. I think this is exactly the type of game that draws fans in. If this happened every night, the league would be a joke. But it doesn’t happen every night. This stuff only happens now when there is a legit reason. When it happens like this, it’s real, genuine, emotion out there. There was nothing staged, it just happened bc they hate each other right now. I could do w/o the players waving their arms to the crowd after a fight but the nastiness itself is awesome. Who isn’t going to watch game 4 after that?

    • JoeAvg - May 6, 2013 at 12:11 PM

      Agreed. This is why hockey will never become a major player in the American sports scene. People see incidents like this and place it on par with wrestling; not a sport really but more like a circus sideshow. The only type of fan this draws are the people who enjoy such nonsense. Ask any American what the toughest sport is and football will be the unanimous choice. These melees are not viewed as a demonstration of toughness, at best they’re seen a lack a discipline by what must be second rate athletes. How many of these incidents do you see in football (or other major sports) and when you do what happens to them? It certainly isn’t nothing. They pay dearly.

      Myself, I don’t care what they think. I know how great the game is and hockey is really the only sport I watch anymore. But if the league was really smart (which of course, they’re not) it would work toward eliminating this trash.

      • nickh7020 - May 6, 2013 at 12:37 PM

        Joe. Hockey is a great game and your points are right on target. All of the fighting is looked on as a league of undisciplined players, coaches and league officials. I am thinking, hoping, that is not what the league wants.
        I know I dont.

    • lostpuppysyndrome - May 6, 2013 at 12:34 PM

      In some ways, I’m fine with hockey not achieving the same attention or status as basketball, football, or baseball in the US. The dingdongs who think hockey is merely about fighting have absolutely zero interest or appreciation for the rest of the game, and they make themselves sound completely ignorant when they do suggest as much. It’s a part of the game that I love and enjoy, but it’s hardly the focus. It downright pissed me off recently when one of our local sports radio bigwigs’ (Paul Allen of KFAN in Minneapolis/St Paul) first questions to Matt Cullen was “When was the last time you had a fight?” You could almost hear Cullen roll his eyes when he responded. It’s Matt Cullen. The guy hasn’t fought in AGES. It’s almost like asking Jared Allen when he last caught a pass. I don’t think these kinds of games should go away because A) they are fairly rare, B) they are fun to watch, and C) they’re an emotional release for the players. Chances are game 4 will be a lot more controlled and that sort of flare up will not show up unless someone dishes out a nasty hit or something similar. If people don’t want to watch hockey because “all they do is fight,” then don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    • gradyroy - May 6, 2013 at 12:48 PM

      There are MANY of us fans who do like this kind of stuff. SO dont try to speak for every one. Its a tough sport, if you cant take the violence find a new sport like volleyball to watch, easy as that.

      And some of dont mind not being a major sport, its OUR sport and we love it. violence will always be part of the game, its not hockey without it.

  3. tyler4richardson - May 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Playoff emotions. Still wondering if P.K. was fighting Turris on the ground or just dry humping him. All in all, this will make game 4 a must watch.

  4. boltsfan777 - May 6, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    I know many fans like this stuff, and it’s part of hockey (I play hockey myself in an adult rec league), but the total lack of respect between the players, and lack of remorse for applying a debilitating and unnecessary hit is ridiculous. Of course it goes back to that unnecessary hit in game 1, (I know, it was legal), and the stupid and insensitive comment by the Sens coach.

  5. acieu - May 6, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    This is why teams need enforcers so when the league fails to handle someone on the ice will have to. Please someone elbow Bourque as apparently it’s a free hit zone if done when your down 6-1.

    • elvispocomo - May 6, 2013 at 11:49 AM

      Ah, so that explains how this game got out of hand. It was just because Bob Probert or Gino Odjick wasn’t on the ice for either team, and guys who concentrate on playing hockey had to stand up for each other instead.

    • JoeAvg - May 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      I kind of agree with your fist sentence. This is why teams feel they need enforcers. They have been in the game as long as I remember but you know what, so has the cheap shots. It’s not a deterrent. The threat of someone punching my helmet with their bare fist is not going to stop me from doing anything. The blow to the wallet does speak much louder. Case in point? Try bench clearing brawls. When was the last time you seen one? The heavy and automatic discipline involved has almost eliminated them entirely.

  6. sens101 - May 6, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Shanahan in a moron. I think these types of decisions should be made by a panel with at least one member from the NHLPA and the NHL, and then also from the dept of player safety. It doesnt surprise me that there will be nothing even though both Bourque and Prust targeted Conachers head twice in the third period. Alas, i have faith in the sens toughness to provide a beat down next game if and when it is getting out of hand again.

    • drewsylvania - May 6, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      It’s worse. He’s not a moron–he’s doing what his corrupt corporate overlords are telling him to do.

  7. dolanster - May 6, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Bourque better keep his eyes open for Neal tomorrow night. Ditto Subban.

    • rootbeerjem - May 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM

      …Neal and Cowen and Methot and the Kassassinator…what the hell, and Phillips, and Smith…and surprisingly Zibenajad likes to throw his weight around, (albeit somewhat lighter than the usual heavy hitters)…

      Teams USED to push us around…well, now that we have MacLean as head coach….that won’t happen anymore!!! I’ve been waiting for this day for a loooooong time.

      Get used to it Montreal…and who ever else tries…

  8. bekay19 - May 6, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    NHL should be ashamed of themselves. The Canadians are an embarrassment to the NHL and it showed last night. The team with the most Power Play opportunities (because they dive) were throwing the most ridiculous cheap shots and then have the nerve to complain at the end of the game.
    Therrian should be ashamed of himself but we have seen him lose control before. Subban/Bourque/ Gallagher should all be receiving at least one game suspensions.
    I hope OTT continues to dominate this series.
    Signed.
    Bruins Fan

    • dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      lmao.object viewer. the worse thing i have ever seen in hockey was chara almost killing pacioretty i know as bruins fan you blame pacioretty. lmao. just remember bruins gooned their way to stanley cup . so sad the team of bobby orr ray bourque and class. is now team of father julien and brad marchand.lmao cam neely must puke everytime he sees marchand or julien.

      • bigkniht37 - May 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM

        lmao you really are a dumbass, greg. the habs are a joke, their fans are a joke, and how they didn’t get suspended really negates the whole bruins are goons that never get in trouble routine you post on here. go back to your mom’s basement and troll around somewhere else

      • ironyisadeadscene - May 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        Yeah dummy, he pukes everytime he sees the coach and player who were integral in getting a Stanley Cup. You are a genius.

    • dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 12:10 PM

      such a sensitive groups the bruins,montreal,ottawa fans. love how so many if you disagree immediately go for the easy insults Lot of george bush supporters lmao. . i was bruins fan in the days of orr.bourque and neely. this bruins team has nothing to compare in terms of class. when julien and marchand leave one day. surprise bruins fans will rip them for same things they love about them today. lmao. yes i am weird i actually like skill so i will watch selanne and detroit play.enjoy boston/montreal/ottawa mma on ice crap. time for all manly montreal,ottawa.boston fans to go back to their mancaves hide from wives and kids lmao

      • bigkniht37 - May 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM

        it’s not an insult if it’s part of your name…

      • hockeyflow33 - May 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

        You clearly weren’t a fan of any hockey during the 70’s because last night’s game was exactly how the game was played back then

      • drewsylvania - May 6, 2013 at 6:03 PM

        You’re not for real. Not with that handle.

  9. nhstateline - May 6, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    and people try to claim the NHL doesn’t do everything it can to help teams based North of the border. Line up the first week of the playoffs and see how that claim looks now. If this were the Bruins playing the Flyers or the Rangers playing the Sabres, the list of the fined and suspended would be as long as the article above. Given that it was Ottawa versus Montreal, they only way they could help both of them was to do nothing and that’s what they did.
    On the other hand, the next time we see a post from some Habs fan boasting that their team would never do what those swine in Philly or Boston or any other American city do, now we have a built in answer.

    • dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM

      lmao . please dirty little secret. if not for canadian teams this league is going under. most american teams are deeply in debt. you reaaly think nbc wants a ottawa/ san jose final please. they are dying for new york/los angeles.

  10. jjregan21 - May 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    You’re just begging for a Bertuzzi incident when you don’t take the necessary steps to curtail ridiculous behavior like this. The department of player safety is a joke. I’m all for letting guys duke it out the way they did, but the Georges shot, Bourque elbow, and Subban hitting on the ground was cheap, out of line, and sets a dangerous precedent.

    • lostpuppysyndrome - May 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM

      Not to mention Brown’s attempt at kneeing AND elbowing Schwartz’s head. “Would this action have killed the player if it worked?” “Yes.” “Did it work?” “No, but-” “I see no problem.” “But he jus-” “NO PROBLEM. GOWAY.”

  11. nosefacekillah - May 6, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Absolute joke. Sad to see the NHL swirl down the drain as a respected league.

    • dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 11:38 AM

      lmao. the league needs to decide if wants to appeal to mma crowd or people who actuaaly like skill. yes that means no fightnig. except rare someone really does something bad a person loses it.

  12. dentals1 - May 6, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    So Ference gets a game for a similar elbow to the head, but Bourque doesn’t even get a hearing? Way to stay consistent NHL.

    • hockeywithdrawal - May 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM

      Right – and Gryba gets two games for an actual hockey play.

      • nosefacekillah - May 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM

        That is the worst part. Gryba does nothing and gets 2. The Habs skate free……

  13. hockeywithdrawal - May 6, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Ok let the fighting go, that’s fine. But the Habs took a NUMBER of cheap shots at the head…Subban, Bourque…I want to say there was someone else that took to Conacher’s head, too…but I can’t remember who it was. Those cheap, dirty head shots HAVE to be suspended. Otherwise I agree with Bekay, the NHL should be ashamed…what’s worse, the Habs were out there playing like they KNEW there wouldn’t be any repercussions for their actions.

    And Therrien thinks a time-out is classless? He should join Milbury in the booth…the two of them seem very similar to me.

  14. wicky888 - May 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    I guess two-handed slashes, elbows to the head, sucker punches, punching guys when they are down, and shooting pucks at people are no longer suspendable offenses.
    I’d be embarrassed to be a Canadiens fan right now. They were dominated physically and on the scoreboard, so they resorted to cheap shots ……. then got their asses kicked. Disgrace.

  15. gallyhatch - May 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    How do they justify a game for Ference, who was playing the puck, but they let Bourque walk on this one?

    This is a f’ing crock. Three games in & These playoffs are already out of control.

    Good job Shanny, your office is the epitome of inconsistency, as usual.

  16. dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    two coaches. you are a stupid head no you are.i am going to tell mom . no i am. don’t make too much noise or dad will come up from basement tell he can’t use his computer or big screen tv. he works so hard kissing his bosses butt all week. too buy all this stuff that we need to live. tv in every room..of thee i sing sweet land of liberty lmao.lmao

  17. iceman2a - May 6, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    “Typical Montreal” I am not surprised that there is not even a hearing. Shanahan can not come out and downright lie agian, saying Bourqe “did not target the head”! There is no rule about puching a player when he’s down on the ice, it’s more or less an unwritten rule, but either way that POS Subban wouldn’t abide by either! Canadiens true colors come shinning thru, just wish more of the color was on the ice like Ellers was in game 2!

    • dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 11:47 AM

      would assume when chara almost killed pacioretty. you were cheering.

      • hockeyflow33 - May 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM

        That’s a hockey play. This isn’t a mite game, checking is allowed

  18. drewsylvania - May 6, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Anyone know if Shannahan makes public appearances. I want to personally scream in his face.

    • dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM

      bettman is and owners are making decision not shanahan. lmao

    • hockeyflow33 - May 6, 2013 at 5:29 PM

      Do you know how big he is in person? Good luck not getting bundled by him

      • drewsylvania - May 6, 2013 at 6:04 PM

        Don’t care how big he is. If he hits me he’ll be writing me a fat check and apologizing to the world.

  19. shortsxit34 - May 6, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    What a joke. PK throwing punches at a guy that’s down while the linesman is holding him…..Gorges shooting the puck at Turris’ head……Gallagher (I think?) with a sucker punch to the face of an unsuspecting player…..And worst of all, Bourque throwing an elbow to a guy’s head while skating by, during a stoppage.

    And not a single incident worth so much as a phone call or a fine. The Canadiens players, coaching staff, and management are an embarrassment to the game.

    Yes, this game was an outlier, but you still don’t see this nonsense in other sports. Hockey has done so much to get away from that crap from the 70s, but last night’s game brought back and reinforced the image that non-fans have of hockey. Last night is the reason hockey will always be #4 of the major sports. Right or wrong, people here *think* this is what hockey is about. The NHL can (stupidly) keep messing with the rules to try to create scoring in an attempt to draw in new fans, but as long as crap like this exists, they never will.

    The NHL had a chance to send a message and show that they won’t tolerate this nonsense and they completely ignored it. They really, genuinely don’t care about player safety, or about the league’s image. They’ll bring in a new audience for game 4, but they won’t bring in new fans.

    • sabatimus - May 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM

      They should change the name of the Office to Shanny’s House of Whims.

  20. sabatimus - May 6, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Leaving the fights out was fine with me, but the rest of the cheap shots…Shanahan is INVITING this kind of behavior by not punishing anyone. I suppose this should come as little surprise, given that he was one of the most hated players in the NHL when he played. Nowadays he’s just doing it from the front office.

  21. kedaco - May 6, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    It goes to show you who still runs this league. The NHL has never had the balls to stand up to the Canadiens I have seen many situations over the years in all aspects where the Canadiens always receive special treatment. To some extent all the professional leagues have their favorites but the NHL and the Canadiens take it to extreme heights.

  22. kovodisc - May 6, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    How the hell does Sham-ahan still have a freaking job?!

    Both he and Bettman have turned this sport into a joke. Serious about player safety?! That is straight up laughable, and anyone with a brain can see that they don’t really care.

    Montreal should be ashamed of they way they play the game of Hockey…it’s pathetic. I would be embarrassed to be rooting for that team. My morals wouldn’t let me. I’m a bruins fan and am the first to criticize the actions of Marchand and some of the other nonsense that can happen. Ference absolutely deserved that game off…as did phaneuf! Zero consistency that I only magnified by the lack of discipline in that Ottawa/Montreal game.

  23. ducksk - May 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Perfect. Shanny has no balls, lets get Bertuzzi in there! Joke. Shameful.

  24. gallyhatch - May 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Stay classy Montreal!!!

  25. dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    think there is a need for a support group for all the pick upon fans insert name (montreal,boston,ottawa) lmao. fans for these team really seem believe they are always penalized and mom like other one more. lmao.much like italy or spain when it comes to ecomonics or mel gibson/charlie sheen when it comes to life.lmao. sports and religion so similar my side is always right. you are always wrong. so little tolerance another point of view. just a steady steam of insults about people manhood etc. lmao yes years when campbell was running league montreal was favorite those days are long gone. nbc does not want a montreal/vancouver final. for 112 people in states who actually watch hockey .that is why there are games saturday and sunday afternoon. in june not at night. most of us would rather be outside in sunshine instead of being in a mancave watching on our big screent tv. hiding from our wives/children

  26. har21441 - May 6, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    This is the problem when the damage done is factored into the discipline. Bourque’s elbow would have resulted in a suspension if Conacher was knocked out or bloodied. Until this is addressed, and discipline is by the rules, not outcome, we’ll continue seeing issues like this.

  27. kovodisc - May 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    I don’t think anyone is clamoring for the NHL to remove the hitting from the game – most can agree its a HUGE part of it!

    It’s the ridiculous level of inconsistency they have exhibited the past few years in terms of suspensions/reprimand. An elbow to the head is an elbow to the head. Injury should in NO WAY determine the punishment. It’s pretty obvious what Bourque was trying to do there. No one can deny that

    • nickh7020 - May 6, 2013 at 2:53 PM

      Hitting is a VERY important part of the game. See Wild vs Blackhawks Sunday. Wild very nasty with hits, clean hits. It takes Chicago out of their game. Thats whats great about hockey. Now if Chicago wants to win they will have to up the physical part of their game. But its all done without cheap shots and unnecessary fighting. Good clean hard nosed, tough hockey. Thats what makes this sport so great.

      When you try to knock someone out with a cheap shot to the head, then that is no good for the game and not fun to watch. When 8 players all drop their gloves at the same time it looks like crap. That is really not a sport. If I want to watch someone get hit in the head with a kick or punch, I will watch MMA.

  28. dumbassgreg - May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    too funny most of the people who talk about hockey players being wimpy never played a second in their life or have had a real fight in their life. much like the people who never served in the armed forces or anyone in their family never has especially not their children. . they put a ribbon on their vehicle they are supporting the troops. then attack people who actually did have the guts to serve.

    • hockeyflow33 - May 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM

      What?

    • captainloaded - May 6, 2013 at 8:38 PM

      yes, you are a dumbassgregg. Your comments are so out of line, that I am ashamed that I took the time to read them.

  29. nhstateline - May 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    nbc is the junior partner in this and the US market, while attractive is the secondary one because of the relative interest and currency rates. I don’t think the NHL throws games. I just think some teams get all the little benefits of the doubt in the playoffs and some don’t and geography matters in that.

    • drewsylvania - May 6, 2013 at 6:05 PM

      This is blatant even by those standards.

  30. captainloaded - May 6, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    This game was a joke…..And embarrassing to the game of hockey, for no punishment to be involved after the fact makes the game/sport of hockey even more embarrassing. It got completely out of hand and the league should come down on both of these teams. It was a joke of a game.

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