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Flyers owner: Failed season ‘was the perfect storm’

May 6, 2013, 9:56 AM EDT

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While other teams battle in the first round, the Philadelphia Flyers don’t have anything to do beyond prepare for next season and reflect on what went wrong.

When Flyers owner Ed Snider was asked about the latter, he was able to come up with several causes for his team’s failed campaign.

“I don’t want this to sound like excuses because all teams had a shortened schedule and just a one-week training camp,” Snider told the Philadelphia Inquirer. “Some teams did well [the previous season] and were happy with their system. We got knocked out by New Jersey in the second round, and New Jersey dominated, and I think the coach wanted to tweak the system.

“And we ended up with the worst schedule in the league. At one point, we played 20 games, and Boston had played 15 [actually, 14]. You already have a compressed schedule, and ours was compressed more than anyone else’s. And when you have tweaking, no practices, and a bad start, we never recovered.”

It didn’t help that the Philadelphia Flyers dealt with plenty of injuries along the way, especially when it came to their defense. Luke Schenn and Kimmo Timonen were the only blueliners to play in more than 37 games for the Flyers in 2013

“It was sort of like everything that could go wrong did go wrong,” Snider added. “It was the perfect storm.”

That doesn’t mean that there weren’t a few positives for the Flyers this season. Forward Jakub Voracek enjoyed a breakout season and Snider liked what he saw from defenseman Erik Gustafsson. He also was happy with goaltender Steve Mason, who had a 1.90 GAA and .944 save percentage in seven games.

Mason, 24, won the Calder Trophy in 2008–09, but struggled mightily after that until the Blue Jackets finally traded him. Still, Snider dismissed the notion that his seven-game stint with Philadelphia was too small a sample size to judge him on.

“It’s not like he’s just a kid right out of juniors,” Snider said. “He had great credentials coming into the NHL, and those credentials don’t just float away.”

Snider also expressed confidence in coach Peter Laviolette and GM Paul Holmgren.

He added that the organization will continue to do everything possible to win their first Stanley Cup since 1975. Although he jokingly admitted that some of the near misses over the years make him feel like “someone has a pin in a voodoo doll somewhere and is putting it to us.”

  1. crazemastercraze - May 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Ladies and Gentlemen your Philadelphia Excuses!!!!!

    • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM

      There are no excuses as far as I see.

      They simply were not good enough….BUT there’s lots of room for improvement.

      • steelpenbucs87 - May 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM

        The Flyers definitely regressed this year, but I would be hesitant to call them a hopeless case here – lots of young talent so they arrow is pointed up still.

        Gotta move Bryz – while I don’t think he played all that poorly he’s clearly not cut out for the pressure of the Philly market. Then the question is the tender going to be Mason or someone else.

        Gotta add to the DLine too. Schenn played okay from what I saw, but other than that there are some question marks.

      • crosberries - May 6, 2013 at 11:56 AM

        Where’s the south Philly village idiot eiggles? And calling him the village idiot from Philly speaks very highly of his idiocracy.

      • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 12:09 PM

        I’m SICK of the Philly Media too…….it’s really just TOO MUCH…..

      • andrewproughcfe - May 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM

        Cry me a river about how hard the schedule was and how you didn’t get any practice and had some injuries – welcome to the NHL!

        If the owner is just going to make excuses, then don’t expect them to get any better next year. Bad play, bad goaltending, bad coaching, and lack of physicality and focus was what I saw – and what made them into the league’s laughingstock for more than a month.

  2. isithockeyseasonyet - May 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Mr Snyder, stop it!

    -flyers fan

    • bobhpine - May 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM

      Just go back to blaming Bryzgalov for everything. Things were so much simpler then.

      Blaming the schedule is just sad.

      They should keep this roster together and give it a go for all 82 next year. I’m sure the results will be incredible for the old Philly 75’ers.

  3. valoisvipers - May 6, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Say what you will about the Flyers and Ed Snider but this guy loves his team and the game of hockey.

    • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM

      This is true……Mr Snider just wants to win so badly…..just lacks the patientence.

      At this point I believe that most of the fan base realizes (less the fools) that you must draft well and build through said drafts.

      This up coming draft is critical for the future of the franchise.

      Just PLEASE do not trade away core players (Schenn brothers/Cooter/etc.)

      We have to be patient….there is not other way to do it at this point

  4. crosberries - May 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    See Washington capitals. New coach new system compressed schedule. What are they doing right now?

    • bmscalise - May 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM

      Much as I despise all things Flyers, this actually validates his point. The only reason the Caps were able to recover from a terrible start was because their division was putrid.

      • crosberries - May 6, 2013 at 11:25 AM

        They said they were trying to tweak the system not get a new coach with a new system and moving your star player to a position he’s never played before. Mike green was also hurt for how long and he’s a huge contributor to getting the puck moving out of their zone. The caps did have more time to make the games up from the beginning but the players still have to play and they didn’t.

      • therealjr - May 6, 2013 at 11:27 AM

        Then don’t go 9-5-1 while good teams are pwning it.

    • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 12:16 PM

      Caps were pretty hot coming in and Ovie has bought in and that can;t hurt either.

      Tonight should be pretty intense……..well not as far as Ott/Habs go….yikes..

  5. rpetosky - May 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    What a Freaking cry baby! He’s an #ass hat!

  6. jpelle82 - May 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    why is this even on here? obligatory flyers article? not hearing from other owners or gm’s. not hearing from predator’s ownership about how they had the perfect storm from off-season to injury to missing the playoffs so why does pht care if ed snider wants to run his mouth? i can see the flyers fans dont want to hear it either.

    • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      It’s quite simple pelle……Marketing……I don’t see a ton of Predator fan posts (not that there aren’t any) just saying.

      Look at the most commented articles……Pens/Flyers/NYR…etc….

      No offense Preds….you got country music and kick ass bbq….NHL Hockey…eh….

      • jpelle82 - May 6, 2013 at 12:34 PM

        i guess that and my flyers/comcast/nbc ownership conspiracy theory

      • President Charles Logan - May 6, 2013 at 1:14 PM

        we got better looking girls here in the south as well

      • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM

        LOL…..Good point…..hhhmmmmm

      • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM

        AAAHHHH…The Southern Bells…..AGREED

      • broadstreetbeatdown - May 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM

        When he says better looking girls he means his toothless, moonshine swilling, meth head cousins.

      • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 11:11 PM

        Ah broadstreet ……….again….ignorance is bliss

    • phillyphanatic77 - May 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM

      PHT never hesitates to pick up stories like this. They know anything Flyers or Penguins related will get 30+ comments as both sides of the rivalry never miss a chance to hate.

      But I don’t disagree with Snider. The Flyers played the most games of any team the first month. And six back to backs in the first six weeks (as many as the Rangers/Pens had all season), but I wish he hadn’t said it. The Flyers dug themselves a hole. And the tough opening stretch means they had an easier second half and still couldn’t recover. Plus a lot of early games were against the Southeast. At different points of the season their offense, defense, and Goaltending took turns failing them. Injuries didn’t help but no need for the owner to spread excuses now.

      • whammy71 - May 6, 2013 at 7:49 PM

        You say “no excuses” – but agree with the owner….so you are making excuses. Everyone played 48 in the same amount of time. Plus, the part of the schedule you are crying about…..your squad should have been padding their record from playing the crappy SE div.

      • phillyphanatic77 - May 6, 2013 at 9:30 PM

        Whammy my friend, are you illiterate? Did you not see where I said: “plus a lot of early games were against the southeast”? What I’m saying is the Flyers have no one to blame but themselves, HOWEVER a packed opening schedule and excessive injuries were factors in slowing a potential turnaround. By Feb 16th the Flyers had played 5 back-to-backs (the pens played 6 ALL season). And only 2 of those 10 games were at home. So that’s 5 BTBs in less than a month compared to 6 in 4 months for the Pens. Of their first 16 games, 10 were parts of BTBs. About 2/3. And it helped put them in a 5-11 hole. Now don’t get me wrong, they played terribly, but there’s no doubt fatigue was part of the equation. I disagree with Snider bringing it up now, but I don’t disagree with his points. It’s all there in the numbers Whammy.

      • whammy71 - May 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM

        Again….You say no excuses…..then cry about the schedule, etc.

  7. aso513 - May 6, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    The team they knocked out in the first round last year changed their system and played just as compressed a schedule, they ended up with the #1 seed.

    This is pathetic on a lot of levels, Snider should be ashamed of himself. Big baby.

  8. bgrillz - May 6, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    You know who else had a schedule as brutal as yours, and dealt with injury? The Pittsburgh Penguins…

  9. colossal87 - May 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Girlroux is probably getting his nails done as we speak…

    • blackfoot11 - May 6, 2013 at 12:54 PM

      He’s actually playing for Canada at the Worlds.

  10. myroncopesflask - May 6, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    As a Pens fan I am happy to see the Flyer’s owner make this comment… If the Flyers are going to keep their GM and Coach it’s going to be another long year in the good old filthy.. Hope the Flyers make some changes sooner rather than later as the Pens vs Flyers games are much better when they actually mean something. On that note I would like to close with a good ole 1975!!!!

    • jpelle82 - May 6, 2013 at 11:25 AM

      you keep saying 1975 and you’re gonna get some bad karma sent our way. you know what else happened in 1975? the pens lost to the islanders after being up 3-0 in the series. stop it with the 1975 stuff man.

      • myroncopesflask - May 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM

        I will stop it with the 1975 when the Flyers make me by winning the Cup. Until that happens you should get used to seeing 1975 on every one of my post. I don’t care if the Pens lose for the next 10 years and slip in bankruptcy 5 more times. 1975 is still the last time the Flyers won a cup and 1975 with be my ending to all of my posts until that changes.

      • jpelle82 - May 6, 2013 at 12:31 PM

        its a free country

      • orangandblack - May 6, 2013 at 3:06 PM

        First comment “As a Pens fan…..”

        Second comment “I don’t care if the Pens lose for the next 10 years and slip in bankruptcy 5 more times”

        You really contradict yourself. Are you really a Pens fan, or just a flyers hater?

      • myroncopesflask - May 6, 2013 at 3:29 PM

        I think you missed the point I made there orangandblack. I will spell it out nice and slow you I can learn you what I meant.. Ok??

        That general idea behind that line you called into question is this.. It does not matter what happens with the Pens or any other team. The Flyers still have not won jack sh!t in almost 40 years. Make sense?

      • orangandblack - May 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM

        You’re making all the intelligent, hockey loving, Pens fans look bad with your shallow thought process. Let me guess what’s next…Giroux is a girl, Hartnell has long red hair, Crosby is the second coming of Jesus, and ummm, oh yeah 1975!

  11. orangandblack - May 6, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Rule # 76…No excuses, play like a champion

    • fbothharbaughs - May 6, 2013 at 12:16 PM

      In regards to the Flyers, shouldn’t this heretofore be known as Rule ’75?

  12. pdmjr - May 6, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Just shut up Ed, excuses are the tools of the incompetent

  13. hockeywithdrawal - May 6, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    “I don’t want this to sound like excuses”

    At least he still has a sense of humor about it…

  14. whammy71 - May 6, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Excuses…..excuses…….excuses. You’d think old Eddie was a 20something that was pampered all their lives and have a built in excuse machine thanks to soccer moms, helicopter parents and everyone gets a trophy mentality.

    Dude should shut his cheesesteak hole and simply say “we weren’t good enough, back to the drawing board.”

    • ibieiniid - May 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM

      “cheesesteak hole.” is that like a donut hole…. but a cheesesteak? either way, i’m 100% FOR that idea

  15. myroncopesflask - May 6, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Why would he even mention the schedule? How did the Flyers schedule differ from anybody else in the division. I can see bringing up Boston because at one point they were 3 games behind our entire division. Just speaks volumes to the disfunction in that organization… Nothing to see here all!! Shiny object over there all!! Sorry we haven’t won a cup since Ford was in office!! We’ll do better next year…I promise!

  16. thickbroth - May 6, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    they suck because they’re not located in western PA.

  17. President Charles Logan - May 6, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Cant really blame Paul Holmgren….. the guy goes out and tries to get every good player on the market, the only way to fail is to try in the first place. I just think Laviolette and Bryzgalov are the clogs in the drain.. they have tuned the coach out and the goalie is not cut out for that city . Why the Flyers wouldnt at least look into what Lindy Ruff is up to is kind of baffling. There’s only so many chances a team in an inpatient market should get .

  18. pitpenguinsrulez - May 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    Has anybody seen Eiggles yet? I’m surprised that we haven’t seen him put his stupidity in yet?!

    • hockeywithdrawal - May 6, 2013 at 12:05 PM

      I don’t think he comments on Flyers articles – just Pens.

    • President Charles Logan - May 6, 2013 at 1:17 PM

      i doubt iggles is even from philly , he’s probably some hack wanna be from can-uh-duh like dumbfeld who claims he’s been a lifetime kings fan (all of a sudden)

      • maalea - May 6, 2013 at 10:12 PM

        This may be the 1st thing we agree on. With the name Iggles no super bowl, I would guess he started on the football site bashing the Eaggles, that got too crowded. So he came over here and started pissing off Pens fans.

      • maalea - May 6, 2013 at 10:13 PM


    • broadstreetbeatdown - May 6, 2013 at 9:43 PM

      Eiggles sounds like a neurosurgeon compared to your fanboy legion. Sorry didn’t mean to interrupt your circle jerk ladies.

  19. dbrhodes2 - May 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    First of all, every team has faced adversity regarding injuries this season and every season for that matter. So, lets throw that out the window. Look at what Ottawa has gone through and yet they still made it to the playoffs; with not to mention, a second year head coach.

    I believe Paul Holmgren should take some of the blame for this season. Yes, he attempted to get the big name of Weber from Nashville, however as time showed his plan fell through. He had no backup plans and it showed. He supplied defenseman that were not suited for Laviolette’s offensive system which relies on defenseman who can pinch several times during a game. Watching Bruno Gervais was a complete nightmare this year. This whole “tweaking the system” talk is nonsense, how does a coach tweak a system in a condensed season? That’s idiotic.

    Regarding: Lindy Ruff, no thank you. I would much rather promote a young coach from an AHL/CJHL team.

    Yes, I am a Flyers fan and have been since birth.

  20. fbothharbaughs - May 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    “I don’t want this to sound like excuses….”

    Is that the same as when you ask someone a question and they feel the need to preface their answer with “To be perfectly honest with you…”

    As an aside, where’s that asshat Eiggles?

    Lemme guess, painting someone’s mom’s headboard…

    Eiggles = Hero of the Stupid

  21. Stiller43 - May 6, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Seriously? You get excuses from this guy? If boston played 14 when you played your first 20, that means they played 34 when you played your next 28.

    Look where they are. Enough with the lame excuses. Everyone had to deal with weird schedules and a 48 game season. Sack up and handle it.

    • laxman1944 - May 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM

      Dam right……injuries happen to everybody.

  22. steeltuff - May 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM


  23. whammy71 - May 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM


  24. buysamadrink - May 6, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    1984 – 9

  25. hockeyfan28 - May 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    I remember when the Pens first drafted Fleury they had to pull Mario out of retirement to sell tickets
    Then again most penguins fans don’t realize they existed before 2005.

    • mordock57 - May 6, 2013 at 10:37 PM

      What a fantastically stupid thing to say. You think Pens fans simply gave up and stopped watching when Mario retired? We still had this guy named Jaromir Jagr winning ANOTHER FOUR SCORING TITLES as the best player in the world at that time. You really know nothing about Pittsburgh or their fans whatsoever. Feel free to explain how the Pens continue to post record TV ratings not just in hockey but in all major sports except the NFL. Moron.

      • hockeyfan28 - May 6, 2013 at 11:24 PM

        Well ROOT sports will be thrilled that one of the worst franchises in baseball the Pittsburgh Pirates produce better ratings then the Pittsburgh Steelers lol btw Jagr hasn’t played for the Penguins for 12 years then again you prove my theory correct most Penguins fans have no knowledge of the history of the Penguins prior to the Crosby draft you don’t even realize you have a team in Pittsburgh because of Ed Snider I have yet to meet one Penguins fan that knows the teams history and didn’t have to google it

  26. broadstreetbeatdown - May 6, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    In 1975 the Penguins filed for bankruptcy after the IRS padlocked their offices. The team was then seized and sold to other owners

    Pathetic turd of a hockey club.

  27. broadstreetbeatdown - May 6, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Oh, I forgot to add…1975.

    • hockeyfan28 - May 6, 2013 at 11:27 PM

      Add to the fiasco where they couldn’t afford to pay Mario so they made him owner

      • broadstreetbeatdown - May 6, 2013 at 11:48 PM

        Then he extorts Pittsburgh and the state of Pennsylvania for 290 million with threats of moving that turd team to Kansas City or Las Vegas.

  28. kingjoe1 - May 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Really Ed, I thought it had to do with Holmgren trading away the 2012/2013 Vezina trophy finalist(probable winner), holding onto Briere, giving up on JVR, not finding a solid top 6 defense and resigning Hartnall for 6 years, but if you think it was just dumb luck you go ahead and hold onto him for a few more years and when you no longer control the Flyers a competent person can come in and fire him and hire a real GM.

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