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Video: Sharks’ Havlat injured on Bieksa spear?

May 3, 2013, 11:21 AM EDT

Sharks winger Martin Havlat played all of 3:16 in San Jose’s series-opening victory over Vancouver on Wednesday night before leaving the contest for good.

Now, it may be clear why he was forced out.

Havlat took a spear in, um, a tender location — courtesy Canucks defenseman Kevin Bieksa — at the 9:10 mark of the opening frame.

Here’s the incident (on the left):

(Full video here, if you like.)

That ended up being Havlat’s final shift of the evening.

On Thursday, Sharks head coach Todd McLellan wasn’t offering much in the way of a health update.

“It’s playoffs, guys,” he explained. “You know we’re not going to give you anything”

David Pollak of the San Jose Mercury News reports that Havlat was at the rink getting treatment yesterday, but declined a request to speak with reporters.

No word yet on whether Havlat will return to the lineup for Game 2. If he can’t go, it’s possible that Tim Kennedy or Matt Pelech could draw in.

  1. elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Certainly didn’t swing that hard up into him with the stick, even if you can generate some force in a short distance and it’s a sensitive area to begin with. Havlat’s no stranger to hurt other players where it counts though, he earned a 5 game suspension early in his career when he kicked Hal Gill in the crotch during a game.

    • supr49er - May 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM

      So what’s your point? That Havlat deserved a nutshot? Nobody deserves a nutshot.

      • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 11:37 AM

        Just an observation I found when looking for more on what people were talking about. The first part of the post stands though, do you think it was particularly hard – enough to take him out of the game?

      • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM

        And I’m not surprised, but no one has said anything since about if they thought it was hard enough to take someone out of a game. I guess me mentioning Havlat had kicked someone in the groin before was too big a distraction.

    • onearmdragon - May 3, 2013 at 12:10 PM

      Watch the clip.

      It’s not the stick that hurt. It’s Bieksa’s entire body force delivered through his fist into Havlat’s jewels.

      Watch Bieksa lever his entire body (Bruce Lee style) into his hand (holding his own stick) through Havlat’s personal stick.

      Your comment on Havlat’s previous behavior is stupid.

      • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:21 PM

        Hyperbole much? Bruce Lee style leverage? I never said it was a good play (in fact, I said the opposite) but did he really hit him so hard that it would cause injury to anyone other than Havlat?

        Take off the homer glasses (or anti-Canucks glasses much of the media has been spreading since 2011) and consider just how hard a hit that is. Is it better or worse than Dustin Brown hanging his knee and elbow out in the game last night?

    • hockeyflow33 - May 3, 2013 at 6:26 PM

      Good point, it’s not like these guys are elite athletes with superior strength and him lifting full force into your special area is going to hurt.

  2. purpleguy - May 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Is Bieksa dirty? I always thought he was juts a typical hard nosed player.

    • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM

      No more than anyone else. He plays hard nosed hockey for sure, and has been on the receiving end of worse. This isn’t a great play, but he certainly doesn’t swing into him with it like we’ve seen with other examples.

    • tridecagon - May 3, 2013 at 2:27 PM

      Bieksa picks his spots. But yes, he’s dirty.

      Vancouver fans probably think this is just how everybody plays, of course.

      • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:55 PM

        It’s how Adam Burish would play, apparently:

        http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/03/burish-on-game-changer-eller-hit-id-take-a-suspension-for-that/

      • comeonnowguys - May 3, 2013 at 4:14 PM

        To be fair, there is a huge disagreement on whether that actually is a dirty hit. Seems to be a lot of “looked dirty live/replay shows clean” feelings on the matter.

        Burish is still an idiot.

  3. btlpper68 - May 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    I can’t stand the Canucks and their cheap dirty shots no one wonder everyone hates them

    • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      And which team do you cheer for? Are you saying I could search for dirty plays by players from your favourite team and I wouldn’t find the same things?

      • mstrcool - May 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

        Look man, you can’t defend what Bieksa did, it was a dirty dirty cheap shot to the nuts. It’s one thing if there’s a pile up and a stick comes out of nowhere hitting someone in the nuts, but Bieksa CLEARLY shoves his stick between Havlats legs and DRIVES upwards, completely intentional, and anyone who does that is a dirty player plain and simple.

      • comeonnowguys - May 3, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        Exactly, cool.

        Burrows likes to spear, or whatever you call what Bieksa did, too. Duncan Keith catches hell for his exchange with a reporter (even with the history, it was still breathless outrage), but a low blow “isn’t a great play.”

      • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:26 PM

        I haven’t defended what Bieksa did at all, in fact I said it wasn’t a great play. Are either of you saying others are innocent of similar things, or that Bieksa is markedly more dirty than any of the Sharks players?

        Ans as I said above, did he really hit him so hard that it would cause injury to anyone other than the fragile-as-glass Havlat?

        If “everyone hates them [the Canucks]” for this kind of play, then everyone must hate pretty much every team in the league. You’ll never see a full team’s roster win the Lady Bing.

  4. btlpper68 - May 3, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Not sayin all teams are perfect but the Canucks continue to do these cheap little plays and throw dirty hits. I know it’s the playoffs but elbows to the head should b called whenever and then the Canucks whine about faceoffs could it be possible the sharks r just better? Or I guess it’s cheating

    • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:35 PM

      Or it could be a tactic to work the refs in your favour. It’s the playoffs, anything goes and both teams will do what it takes to gain the edge. The Sharks continue to do the same things, so do all the other teams in the league. You can’t say the Sharks are innocent when they have at least Turris and Burish on their team.

  5. sippindasyzurp - May 3, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Hey Vancouver fans, this series beatdown will cause the organization to fire Vignault.. That is the best thing that could have happened to this team.. Any teams coach that whines about the other team cheating on faceoffs through the media is destined to fail.. You can tell the team has adopted the mould of its head coach quite well.

  6. soro17 - May 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Semantics, but that is not a spear. A spear uses the toe of the blade. That is a good old fashion shafting. To be fair to Bieksa though, Havlat is often injured by things like the whispering wind or a falling leaf. Pretty sure a newbord infant has a sterner constitution.

    • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:47 PM

      Sami Salo would have laughed at Havlat and told him to get back in there after showing him the video of Salo taking a slaphot to the nuts.

  7. jpat2424 - May 3, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Go figure another cheap shot by a Canuck
    Dirty!!

    • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

      And Burish thinks it’s ok to take a suspension to make a hit:

      http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/03/burish-on-game-changer-eller-hit-id-take-a-suspension-for-that/

      Why are the Canucks so much worse again?

      • comeonnowguys - May 3, 2013 at 4:15 PM

        Wow, how many times can you post one link? Do yourself and your fanbase a favor–let Kit do the talking.

      • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 4:23 PM

        Doesn’t seem to stop others from posting irrational hate towards the Canucks, I guess. But, if I enjoy doing it, that’s good enough for me.

        Kit can talk all he wants, this is just a sociology experiment to show how people will ignore logic and bite on the outrageous, headline grabbing one liners instead.

      • comeonnowguys - May 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM

        Ah… right… an experiment.

  8. dumbassgreg - May 3, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    you can tell who almost everytime who people cheer for by their reaction. my team is always right. the other is always wrong. it is never our fault always theirs. so sad have most people now think like the mel gibson/charlie sheen’s of the world never my fault always someone elses.

  9. colby7 - May 3, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    It’s a four game series and it is far from over.. Trust me as a Vancouver fan I know what it is like to assume a series is over. It’s not going to be a sweep because it is a really good match up, look at the nature of the goals in game one. It’s going to be a hard-fought series for whoever wins. This isn’t Pits-NYI.

  10. kitshky - May 3, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    No one’s defending it as a clean play, but come on, can there be at least one thing happen in Vancouver that is not totally and completely blown out of proportion by fans who just love to paint Vancouver in a bad light?

    Of course it’s not a clean play .. its a mean, brutal, nasty play, but let’s not pretend that this kinda play hasn’t occurred in front of the net in almost every game since the beginning of time.

    This isn’t the NBA girls, it’s hockey, and playoff hockey is brutal.

    • comeonnowguys - May 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM

      The problem is, and I’ve found this to be especially the case with a lot of Vancouver fans, if it’s done to Vancouver, it’s dirty, if it’s done by Vancouver, then it’s either a hockey play, or it’s morally acceptable because “we get worse done to us.”

      Homerism wasn’t invented Vancouver, nor does it exist only in Vancouver, do not misunderstand me. It’s everywhere.

      But over the past few years, it’s seems to be elevated to an artform there. It’s not necessarily relegated to this site; in fact, go to any Vancouver media or sports blog and imo it’s even worse.

      But I’ve read for years how hatred for Raffi Torres is only because doesn’t the wear my favorite team’s sweater, meanwhile Duncan Keith is an unforgivable piece of trash. If someone had done to Henrik or Daniel what was done to Havlat, look out. If a King, Blackhawk or Shark was biting people, or pulling hair in fights, or kneeing people in the groin? Disgraceful.

      • kitshky - May 3, 2013 at 3:36 PM

        I understand what you’re saying, and in most ways … absolutely agree with you. In fact I’d be lying if I said having a conversation with a lot of Canuck fans isn’t one of the most aggravating part of my day a lot of the time.

        What I’m saying, is that the hatred and singularly focused and slanted view that people have of the Vancouver Canucks skewers most events into the worst light possible.

        If a Vancouver Canuck had thrown an elbow like Ferrence did … it would be the worst hit imaginable and further testament of what a dirty despicable team they are. That is fact.

        I’m up for any sort of discussion and even absolute and total disagreement, but when every time the Canucks are mentioned and it is automatically followed by some moronic “that’s why they suck”, “sisters”, “dirty rat” comment even if the act really doesn’t merit it (therefore compounding and further “proving” the opinion) … it’s get old pretty quick.

      • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:45 PM

        Agree again with kitshky. Before the 2011 playoffs there wasn’t near the same vitriol for the Canucks and it’s blown completely out of proportion by the media now to make it seem like they do it constantly or are miles worse than any other team in the league.

        The Canucks do have a vocal fan base, and there’s no IQ test to get on the internet so there are plenty of idiots. Just because ours are louder doesn’t mean every Canuck fan thinks that way.

        If I ever say something untrue, I welcome anyone to reply with why I’m lying or even being unreasonable. That goes for incidents involving the Canucks or completely different teams.

    • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:37 PM

      That’s my point from the start. Havlat’s been guilty of worse and this is not a one off incident for any team in the league. It’s playoff hockey and Havlat’s injured again, it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.

  11. sjsharks66 - May 3, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    @kit

    They have to use something to show how cheap they are! They never said anything about the charge or elbow in that game. I would say they chose the least dirtiest play the canucks did that game.

    • kitshky - May 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM

      Yawn…

    • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 3:59 PM

      Glad to see you joined us, still trying to stick up for your team and say the Canucks are much worse after this comment by Burish?

      http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/03/burish-on-game-changer-eller-hit-id-take-a-suspension-for-that/

      • comeonnowguys - May 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

        Glad to see someone is on here so much it makes me feel productive at my job.

        Give us some credit. We were probably going to see the first time you linked it. We’re definitely going to see the SECOND time you linked it in the same post. Which target market are you trying to reach with the third link?

      • elvispocomo - May 3, 2013 at 4:42 PM

        I couldn’t resist when sjsharks66 had posted at the end and I didn’t see it before. And again, a sociology experiment: call it trolling for upvotes/downvotes and see what happens when there’s logic mixed in versus when there isn’t.

        We agree that Burish is no good though.

  12. sharkcity408 - May 3, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    It’s funny to read replies by CANOOK fans desperately tryin to convince others(and themselves) for Vans dirty nature. Hahaha u guys are really paranoid WAHHH medias out to get us. Hahaha Wat a joke team and fanbase.

  13. jhuck92 - May 3, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    another classy display from the Canucks!

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