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Video: Does Sens’ Gryba deserve a suspension for hit on Habs’ Eller?

May 2, 2013, 10:24 PM EDT

With a disturbing amount of Lars Eller‘s blood on the ice, many wondered if Eric Gryba deserved a suspension thanks to that scary scene in Game 1 between the Ottawa Senators and Montreal Canadiens on Thursday.

On the other hand, Keith Jones and Jeremy Roenick believe that it isn’t a suspension-worthy hit once you look beyond the gory scene:

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  1. ryanw822 - May 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    I feel bad for Montreal PD switch boards tonight.

    RIP circuit breaker

    • jimw81 - May 2, 2013 at 10:33 PM

      MTL fans probably ran to police station to file a police report on clean hit from a suicide pass.

  2. themagicman1223 - May 2, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    No he doesn’t deserve one, Paul Maclean said it best in his post game interview. This is a major blow for the habs though, anyone who watches them knows Eller is a tremendous player. He’s severely underrated and deserves to get more ice time starting next season.

  3. elrock7 - May 2, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Should not even been a penalty, never mind a major. Dumbass Diaz should have got one for trying to kill his teammate with that stupid pass!

  4. bslabo22 - May 2, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    100 % clean hit! Shoulder elbow
    Both down! Bad call! Luckily didnt cost Sens the game!

  5. gettingpwned - May 2, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    yes, he does. sorry, but it was a hit to the head. and in today’s nhl….

    • jimw81 - May 2, 2013 at 10:37 PM

      shanaban has spin wheel the for justice

      • gettingpwned - May 2, 2013 at 10:50 PM

        v true. better than colin though. but it was hard to be any worse.

    • sunderlanding - May 3, 2013 at 3:29 AM

      In todays NHL you can hit the head as long as it isn’t the only thing you hit. A full body check with contact to the head is legal. This is NOT a suspension.

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 3, 2013 at 7:06 AM

      The head was not the principal point of contact. So, no suspension.

  6. tycobbfromfangraphs - May 2, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    Nope, I don’t think anyone can provide any video evidence that shows anything but a clean hit with an unfortunate result.

  7. nunan - May 2, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Tough call. Generally, I think Gryba’s form was completely acceptable. Nothing malicious about it. However, he was hitting a player who wasn’t looking and I think the responsibility lies in his own hands to get low enough where he doesn’t contact the head. His shoulder clearly hit Eller in the chin area which isn’t necessarily a penalty but it could be avoided bc Gryba has all the power in the situation to pick where he hits Eller. Eller is not looking and is out before he hits the ice…hence the face plant and excessive blood. It’s one thing if there is contact to the head bc Eller tries to dodge the hit and at that speed, stuff happens. it’s another thing when he isn’t looking at all. I think Gryba has to get lower. It’s tough for these big guys because they naturally make contact with the heads of shorter players. Chara has think about that all the time, I’m sure.

    • cdalton2690 - May 2, 2013 at 11:26 PM

      It’s hockey if your coming across the middle with your head down and looking behind you your suppose to get killed. I feel terrible for Eller I never want to see anyone get hurt, but Gryba did what you are suppose to do which is separate the man from the puck. If he steps up and trys to lay off his hit and worry about Ellers safety then Eller walks right by him and eveyone comments on how terrible he is at defense. Good clean hockey play that had a terrible result. This is why you learn from day one to skate with your head up. The NHL has turned into such a wussified league that you cant touch anyone, they should just go ahead and make a non contact hockey league and see how well it works out.

      • sunderlanding - May 3, 2013 at 3:30 AM

        Don’t forget to put them in bubble wrap first. Even without contact they might fall down!

  8. esracerx46 - May 2, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Admittedly, I didn’t watch the game. Only caught a few of the replay

    • esracerx46 - May 2, 2013 at 11:38 PM

      No idea why that posted. Went back to make sure I had my facts straight. The call on the ice was interference. Anyone else ever hear of a 5 min major and game misconduct for interference? I know players have been suspended when penalties haven’t been called. But this is the opposite. Even if it is suspension worthy, Gryba has already been penalized rather stiffly.

      • dentals1 - May 3, 2013 at 9:18 AM

        Yeah, Chara! At least Eller had the puck. This was a penalty for hitting too hard.

  9. dumbassgreg - May 2, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    he will but what ference did last night or brown did tonight are much worse & intented to hurt the other person. gryba is 6th defensemen on ottawa league will use him as example. this will get big play on american media. lots of blood and gore

    • atteckus - May 3, 2013 at 1:17 AM

      Ference had his hearing and the truth came out. Everyone agreed that his his hit was unintentional, though still culpable as a hit to the head. Stop BS’ing like Ference went headhunting, because that is clearly not the case.

      • valoisvipers - May 3, 2013 at 9:32 AM

        Ference threw a deliberate elbow shot to the head.Point final.

  10. gettingpwned - May 3, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    facial and jaw fractures. and the initial point of contact wasnt the jaw? bulls**t.

    • gettingpwned - May 3, 2013 at 1:07 AM

      sorry facial and DENTAL, not jaw. though i guess the jaw could be in the facial definition.

      • sunderlanding - May 3, 2013 at 3:33 AM

        How does that make sense? So if I fell off a building and landing on my knees but the force threw my head into the ground smashing my jaw and teeth you’d assume I landing on my face? Damage can be done to the face without it being the principle point of contact. Yes his head hit his elbow. Yes his head hit the ice. No it was not principle point of contact.

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 3, 2013 at 7:10 AM

      The guy landed face first on the ice. You try it and let us know the results. The head was not the principal point of contact. It appears that his hit was hit by the back of Gryba’s shoulder.

  11. slclions - May 3, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    habs fan here…there should be no suspension for this hit but the stupid nhl will give 1-2 games… good play gone bad, very bad. the ice might have done the most damage…hope lars can recover quickly

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 3, 2013 at 7:11 AM

      And what do you think of Diaz’s pass?

  12. atteckus - May 3, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    100% clean hit that shouldn’t have received even a minor penalty. An unfortunate result but part of the game. Had Gryba lunged at all or made contact above the chin, then yeah, it would warrant discipline. But neither of those things happened.

  13. valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    Just watched the video on TV a few times. It appears that Gryba’s shoulder did not make direct contact with Eller’s head. Looks like his back made conact with Eller’s head as a consequence of the follow through. This to me this is not a suspendable hit. Based on the consequences of this hit, and I’ve been saying this for a long time, the league, NHLPA, and doctors have to start looking at the equipement these guys are wearing. Eller fell to the ice with no attempt whatsoever to protect himself, which leads me to believe he was lights out on the way down. Why? What caused him to lose concioisness? Was it the hard shell shoulder pads? These guys are like tanks now a days. The head takes the full brunt of the impact, whereas years ago the equipement was softer allowing for the impact to be absorbed by the equipement as opposed to the head.

    • valoisvipers - May 3, 2013 at 9:45 AM

      I totally agree with you that they should go back to softer equipment as today’s hard shell stuff gives the hitting player the feeling of invincibility, thus leading to harder,more reckless hits that injures players.
      Look at Subban’s 2 hits, one on Neil and the other almost took out the linesman, HNIC clocked his speed going backwards into the hits ,the first was over 20km and the second was at almost 25km. Both were wild and reckless hits that he attempted.

    • atteckus - May 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM

      I couldn’t agree more. This “results” driven disciplinary regimen is patently unfair. If Eller drops on his shoulder instead of his face, Shanny hands out nothing. But because he just happened to do a horrific faceplant, thereby incurring a gruesome injury, the league dishes out two games to a completely innocent player. Its completely unpredictable and disproportionate to the actions of the supposed offender. It simply cannot go on this way.

  14. scoocha - May 3, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    WTH has happened to hockey? There’s more daily coverage of players being censured and suspended than anything about the sport. The hit was clean even if he went to the head, who cares, this is not a nice sport, hopefully Eller is okay but these hits come with the territory.
    Please stop the pussification of major sports!

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