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Video: PHT Extra — Jones or MacKinnon No. 1 at ’13 Draft?

Apr 24, 2013, 6:50 PM EDT

In the latest edition of PHT Extra, Brough and I discussed the hot topic following the NHL Central Scouting Bureau’s final rankings for the 2013 NHL Entry Draft:

Seth Jones or Nathan MacKinnon — who ya got?

Jones, the 6-foot-4 defenseman from WHL Portland, is the No. 1 prospect heading into the draft, but that doesn’t mean teams won’t consider MacKinnon, the QMHJL Halifax forward that racked up 75 points in 44 games this year.

(Oh, and another 24 in 11 playoff contests).

After that discussion, we touched on Monday’s draft lottery — the first in NHL history where all 14 participants will have a shot at the No. 1 pick.

Go ahead, watch the video. You know you want to.

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  1. icelovinbrotha215 - Apr 24, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    I really do think that Sir Jones will go #1 overall. He has the potential to be a franchise D-man for years. Hope he can surpass that expectation.

  2. atwatercrushesokoye - Apr 24, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    Both would be great picks and both represent the two hardest positions to find in hockey: Jones being the true shutdown defenseman in the Lidstrom or Neidermayer mould. MacKinnon being that true number 1 center, which is hard to find, there’s maybe 15 or 16 true number 1 franchise centers in the league.

    If I were GM of the Flames and we got the first pick (through lottery win or trade up) I’d take MacKinnon for 2 reasons: 1. The Flames have not had a true number 1 center since they traded Neiuwendyk in 95. 2. A number 1 center provides more value because of the faceoffs that he’ll win, how many more goals do you score by winning faceoffs in the scoring zone? And how many do you prevent by winning them in the defensive zone?…I’m truly curious since the Flames are generally in the bottom 5 in this category every year.

    • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Apr 24, 2013 at 8:06 PM

      I’d actually take Drouin. At 17 years old he is simply the highest end talent in the draft as a whole.

      I understand you don’t build a franchise around a winger. But, personally I want the best player available with the first overall pick and Drouin is the guy that everyone couldn’t take their eyes off of at the world juniors. Plus he was the biggest difference maker on that loaded Halifax roster all season long.

      I totally understand the thought process with the fact that guys like Seth Jones don’t come around all that often. And the thought process that when you have the chance you grab a franchise center, you do.

      In my opinion though, Drouin is the best of the best in this draft.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Apr 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

        Valid points, but without a great center often times wingers will never reach their full potential, in Calgary we went 12 seasons (starting from his breakout season in 01-02) trying to find a center to play with Iginla, he made the guys he played with better, but how good would he have been with an elite center while he was in his prime?

        Drouin would be perfect for a team who’s already got a young center in the pipeline (Colorado for example, although they obviously need D) the Flames don’t have anything at center, it so bad that I wouldn’t be disappointed if they decided to draft only centers (when drafting a forward) and convert them to the wing as needed.

      • tcclark - Apr 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM

        I think you both make valid points. Frankly I think this should be a three person race. Not that I think Drouin is going to go number 1, but because I think he has the possibility to go number 2 depending on who is drafting in that position. If Florida picks first and takes Jones and Colorado drafts second, I think Drouin could very well go second to Colorado who already has a couple of strong centers. A team like Philadelphia if somehow they got the second pick (I’m not sure that they can) would surely prefer Jones, but if he wasn’t available, I think they would draft Drouin considering the depth they have down the middle with Giroux, Briere(for now), Couturier, Schenn, Talbot, Laughton, etc.

        I personally prefer Drouin over MacKinnon. I think his vision on the ice is extraordinary, and his puck handling and positioning remind me of Pavel Datsyuk. He can take over a game and has the ability to make defenses look foolish. A team like Tampa would be smart to pick him up. He could learn a lot from St. Louis and they would have two very scary offensive lines with Lecavalier, St. Louis, Stamkos, Drouin, etc.

        I think when it’s all said and done, Jonathan Drouin is the biggest star in this draft class.

  3. 19to77 - Apr 24, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    I’m not buying Jones as the #1. Not for any lack of quality on his part – he’s phenomenal – but simply because MacKinnon is a type of player a lot harder to come by. He’s compared to names like Crosby and Tavares. If he realizes his potential at the NHL level, he’s probably a franchise star his whole career. That’s way too much potential to pass by.

    Guess it still comes down to which position the bottom team needs more. Colorado would obviously want Jones. Calgary would want MacKinnon. Tampa, Jones again. Florida… hard to say, they’re bad at everything. Flyers and Preds would both want to repair defense. Completely depends on who gets it.

    • hockeydon10 - Apr 25, 2013 at 11:05 AM

      “Depends on who gets the #1 pick” is exactly what I was thinking while reading this article. Both kids look like they’re going to be difference makers at the NHL level so a franchise really can’t go wrong just picking the one that addresses their weakness.

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