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Holmgren: No plans to buy out Bryzgalov

Apr 22, 2013, 3:42 PM EDT

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Ilya Bryzgalov is apparently still very much in the Philadelphia Flyers’ future.

Via ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun, Flyers general manager Paul Homgren thinks all the buyout talk surrounding the 32-year-old goalie is “out of bounds”.

“No,” replied Holmgren when LeBrun asked if there was any basis to the speculation that the Flyers planned to cut ties with Bryzgalov.

“I think right now with Ilya and Steve [Mason], we’ve got good goaltending moving forward,” said Holmgren. “Any talk of anything other than that I think is out of bounds.”

Bryzgalov is 18-17-3 with a modest .898 save percentage.

A buyout of his contract this summer would cost the Flyers $23 million over 14 years; however, there would be no cap consequences with the new CBA allowing two compliance buyouts.

The Flyers could always keep a compliance buyout in their back pocket for the following summer, just in case they need to use it on Bryzgalov.

But if Holmgren is playing it straight, it sounds like Bryz will be back next season.

  1. sheckyrimshot - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    bull$#!+

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:15 PM

      Philadelphia Liars

      • crosberries - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM

        Wow! That is the first intelligent thing you’ve ever said! I’m so proud of you!

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:19 PM

        Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakinng Neeeeeeeewwwwwwwws I never cared what you thought & I will never care what you think

      • crosberries - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        Kinda like how no one cares to read your useless comments yet you continue to post on every penguin article? I know it’s annoying right? Durp

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Apr 22, 2013 at 7:36 PM

        crossberries go back to whacking it to Cindy you troll.

  2. sewell1977 - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Soo then its safe to say he WILL buy out Bryz? Typically he does the opposite of what he tells everyone else.

  3. JoeAvg - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    I really never seen Snider paying him $23,000,000 dollars for him to play elsewhere. I think the Flyers are stuck with him.

  4. brainoflindros - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    I know its only been 3 games that Mason started but upon looking at them and the bad defense in front of him, he kept us in those games and he made some huge saves. Numerous breakaways and odd man rushes he stops with ease. Imagine if he had a defense in front of him. Granted he is probably riding a high from being traded, but I also have watched Bryz. He does not look to steal games. He does look better after a lot of rest, but we need a consistant performance each game. I believe they should buy him out. Mason 1.5 plus Bryz 9 mil with cap down to what, 64 Mil next year? Rather take a 1.6mm hit for next 14 years then have Bryz put up terrible back up numbers.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM

      they don’t have to take a 1.6mil annual hit if they amnesty him. It has no cap penalties, just gotta pay him $23 million.

      • whammy71 - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

        Exactly why he won’t get bought out…..no owner wants write a check for 23 million.

        BTW – how’d the golf game treat ya over the weekend?

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:54 PM

        $23 mil over 14 years is nothing to Snider. It’s not ideal but he already gives Holmgren a blank check to do whatever he thinks is best. And the season is not over yet, I’m still watching Flyers hockey. I know that’s a foreign concept to fairweather Pens fans like yourself.

      • whammy71 - Apr 22, 2013 at 7:35 PM

        Sorry pal – seen the Pens lose games since the late 70s. No fair weather fan here. Enjoy golfing!

  5. coronakid76 - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    If we had a Defense that wasn’t so porous maybe his stats wouldn’t look so bad. 40+ shots more so then not……Can’t fault him for everything the team screws up game in and game out. Where is the Captain to help out his backstop?? Kinda deflect the blame here…..The Flyers need a major overhaul outside a few players. No skilled depth, not many NHL ready minor league’rs!!! We FINALLY have a suitable back-up so Bryz doesn’t have to shoulder every game. Although it may take his entire contract length for the Front Office to finally get it together and DRAFT / DEVELOP / RETAIN defensemen!!!! Philly is just frustrating to root for….

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM

      “40+ shots more so than not”? I’m sorry but that’s incorrect. There may be a handful of games where Bryz saw 35 shots or so but the majority of his stat lines were something like “24 saves on 27 shots”. An .898 save % is not “modest” at all, as the article says. It’s terrible. Bryz didn’t get a lot of help from his defenders, but he also didn’t help them out much. He rarely, if ever, bails the team out when they need a big stop. Mason has done the opposite in his 5 appearances. And you seriously want to blame Giroux for Bryzgalov’s mediocrity? Giroux had a bad season but he’s not gonna stand behind Bryz all game and make sure he stops all the shots that the goalie can’t. It’s a team game and the team failed, as a whole. I don’t know if I believe Holmgren on this one because if he doesn’t get rid of Bryz and Briere then he’ll have to trade someone like Hartnell to clear the necessary space to acquire a well-paid defender. Maybe Bryz has one more season and if he underwhelms again they amnesty him next summer. This season wasn’t Bryzgalov’s fault but he’s way overpaid. I’ve seen enough of him to say goodbye, maybe management hasn’t.

  6. valoisjoeybfeld69 - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Holmgren is playing his cards right. You don’t throw a player under the bus publicly because it devalues his worth. Try to move him this summer, otherwise, you buy him out or you’re stuck with a sub par goalie.

  7. canucks30 - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:32 PM

  8. hockeywithdrawal - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    He doesn’t have to buy him out until the summer of 2014, if he was going to. And buying out Briere would help to get them below cap for the most part. My bet is he’d keep him another year, rebuild the defense and let Bryz and Mason sort it out on the ice (who the starter is). But I’d bet if he does poorly they buy him out – it’s a lot of money but the term is just too long to let go.

  9. alicesrightfootesq - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    “NNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!” – Bryz, upon hearing this news.

  10. blomfeld - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    PROBABLY TIME FOR A CHAT

    Can’t say I’m personally a big Flyers fan as such. But one thing I’ve never cared for is “premeditated” financial parasitism … and this jerk Bryzgalov is a “financial” parasite of absolute diabolical proportions. Both he and his agent should be taken to the Flyer’s back room “right now” and told in no uncertain terms … “look boys, you’ve got a choice here … either your contracts go through the shredder or you do … so what’s it gonna be then?”.

    ps: and don’t ever say that we Kings aren’t looking out for you guys, eh? :)

  11. haterzinc - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Flyers fans are disappointed once again!

  12. flyersfan67 - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Bryz needs to go, although it looks like Holmgren been told by snider I’m not doing a buyout on Bryz yet. Keeping him for another season, logistically makes sense, rebuild defense and let two battle it out for number 1 spot. Only problem is we already went through a year when he was outplayed by the backup and he was nothing but a pain in the ass for coaches, management, and players. Just going to become a cancer in the locker room if and when Manson outplays him. Buy him out now please!!!

  13. philly06 - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    if this is true, still gotta use they 2 buyouts. Id say to use it on brierre and coburn. keep bryz see what he does next season and then make your decision but brierre is too old and coburn is an ok 3rd or 4th D man getting paid WAY too much.

  14. President Charles Logan - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    **sarcastic chuckle and face palm***….

    welp this is good news for every team that plays the flyers for the next 7 years

    • haterzinc - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      Good for 1-2 SGPG!!!!!!!! (Soft goals per game )

  15. tcclark - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    This is not a money issue. Ed Snider is worth 2.5 Billion dollars and the Flyers are his life. He’s not worried about paying Bryz 1.6 million per year so that he can play a better goalie and he can save money on the cap.

    Holmgren is saying this because why tell people you’re going to amnesty someone before you test the market on him. Some team may be willing to trade something for him and the Flyers wouldn’t have to pay anything. A stupid reporter asked him a question and he didn’t want to show his hand right away. That’s all this is.

  16. hockeyflow33 - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    The issue is not the goaltending, not sure why it’s so difficult for Flyers fans to get that

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:40 PM

      Yes, its all the system and/or the defense, we’ve heard it a million times. There may be truth to it, but the goaltending is also an issue. Bryz may not be the main problem but he’s sure as hell not the solution. So many ppl want to make excuses for him… the bottom line is he consistently allows soft goals, he’s inconsistent, he’s mentally weak, and he’s completely overpaid. He’s paid to be elite and he’s been outplayed by a guy that couldn’t hold down the job in Columbus. I’d say it’s an issue.

      • whammy71 - Apr 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM

        Easy there PhillyPhalicSymbol. At least give Mason a little time for your a-hole fans to ruin his confidence. There is a reason he couldn’t hold the job in Columbus….and it was the same reason Tommy Maddox was selling insurance before the Steelers signed him…..CAUSE HE SUCKS!

  17. flyeredup202 - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Homer wont buy Bryz out this year, he can wait till next summer. He can see what he really has in Mason and then Bryz buy out will only cost him like 15 instead of 23….. alot easier to chew on 15. Could be intersting offseason for the flyers needing to get under the cap. You have to buy someone out, Biere? Hartnell? and you still have to try and boost your blue line….. Kinda happy we didnt get Weber now… that contract would have killed this team with the new cap.

  18. 950003cups - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    How can such a good goaltender become so bad so fast?

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:47 PM

      You know, no one has yet to answer that question. I would like to know myself.

  19. 950003cups - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    He doesn’t have to buy out Bryz. From my understanding, teams can now trade a player and divide some of the salary and cap space. Trade him for a good pick and pick up half the cap/salary

  20. garryjercia - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Bryzz is fine. Briere will be bought out. Next summer is anyone’s guess

  21. flyersfan67 - Apr 22, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Trade him 950003cups, what the hell are you on, there isn’t one of the other 29 gms in the league that would trade for him even if the package included giroux.

  22. letsgopens8771 - Apr 22, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Flyers brickhead GM thinks “We’ve got good goaltending moving forward.”

    Good, but not solid. Good goaltending doesn’t win you cups. Great goaltending, SOLID goaltending wins you cups.

    Flyers GM= high on his own supply (or on eigglesnosuperbowls’s supply)

  23. broadstreetbeatdown - Apr 22, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    This is such a funny debate. Bryz ain’t going nowhere. h’e not getting traded nor is he being bought out. Some of you folks, Flyers fans and haters alike must not have watched many games this season. Sure Bryz has let in some softies. what goalie hasn’t but he’s also made some clutch saves and kept his team in the contest. For the love of Pete, theres been games where he has to face a breakaway on the opening shift and come up huge. Bryz is not the problem, the D is. Y’all do recall that a couple of years ago the Flyers made it to the finals with Boosh and Leighton? the difference being the D was anchored by Pronger. They have never replaced that stabilizing force on the back end. Until they unfu$k the defense it does not matter if Bryz, Mason, Rinne, Parent or Roy is in net.

    • haterzinc - Apr 22, 2013 at 9:21 PM

      Based off of your theory there must be a lot of stupid/ uneducated fans repping philly. Wonder why most people don’t gravitate towards this reasoning , it seems to make sense.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Apr 22, 2013 at 9:29 PM

        My point still stands, Bryz is not getting bought out and the Flyers need to fix the D. That makes real sense.

  24. tcclark - Apr 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    How exactly are we going to “fix the D” as everyone is putting it. We have 21.425 million locked up in our top 6 defensemen and I’m not even counting Pronger. That’s 3.57 million per defensemen. We’ll have about a million dollars in cap space with Pronger on LTIR so if we’re going to make a move we’re going to have to clear some cap. If we amnesty Briere, we will have 7.5 million to sign a defensemen and a forward to replace Briere. That should be fine, but when the best UFA Defensemen are Sergei Gonchar and Mark Streit, we aren’t going to improve our D very much. We’re going to have to make a trade or vastly overpay a RFA like Pietrangelo or Shattenkirk to get a solid defensemen and even then your taking a risk on defensemen who play in a vastly different style than what we play.

    Frankly I don’t think the talent on our defense is the issue. We have a lot of talented defensemen who have all played well at different times. I just don’t think that Timonen, Cobourn, Schenn, Meszaros, Grossman, and (Gus, Bourdon, Gervais, etc.) are so drastically worse than Cowan, Gonchar, Gryba, Lundin, Methot, Phillips, and Weircioch that Bryz can be having a terrible season while Craig Anderson is in the Vesina talks. I think it comes down to the system and the goaltending. If we are not going to change the system than we need to change goaltenders.

    • drone501 - Apr 22, 2013 at 11:56 PM

      hows do all you flyer fans feel about the coach. has he had any positive input this year. it seemed like this team was lacking in just about everything. do you think hartnell will be back or has he worn out his welcome. just askin.

      • tcclark - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:20 AM

        I don’t think you can fire a coach because of bad season when he didn’t have a training camp and it was a shortened year. I personally like Lavy. I think the defense has it’s issues considering the talent we have back there, but a lot of those issues are a result of how aggressive we are on the offensive end. Lavy has been productive throughout his career and has made multiple Stanley Cup runs wit multiple teams. Unfortunately he did both of those with hot goaltenders. He needs a goalie who is going to bail out the defense in order for his system to work and Bryz is just not that goalie. I think we need to draft a goalie and let him groom. In the mean time we should go back to the 2 goalie approach and play the hot hand.

        As for Hartnell, he’s not going anywhere. A high scoring power forward is hard to find and he is a fan favorite. He’s just having a down year. He’ll turn it around. This isn’t out of the ordinary for him.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:40 AM

        I very much agree with tcclark on his points. Laviolette may not have been very good this season but the coach can only do so much when his players aren’t performing. Give him another season to turn it around. As for Hartnell, his name may come up in rumors this summer but I expect him to be back and productive next season. He’ll probably never reach 37 goals again but it’s probably a safe bet to say he’ll be back around 25 goals next year.

        On the goaltending point… the Flyers drafted Anthony Stolarz with the 2nd round pick they got for Bob, and he is currently being groomed with the London Knights. And lighting it up, I might add. But he’s atleast 2-4 years away from being NHL ready. In the meantime, the best course of action, IMO, would be to buyout Bryz, and bring in a relatively inexpensive option (Khudobin?) to compete with Mason for the #1 job. You never know what Holmgren will do though, so we’ll have to wait and see.

  25. phillyphanatic77 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    If anyone wants to see an excellent insight into the Bryz “debate” I’d urge you to read this short post by Bill Meltzer:

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-Meltzer/Meltzers-Musings-Bryzgalov-Hartnell-Wellwood/45/51052

    He does a great job of objectively breaking down Bryzgalov’s play, as well as the team around him. And Meltzer articulately explains the issues with his game. It’s spot on. Check it out.

  26. buffalomafia - Apr 23, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Dumb ass! Thats why u suck!

    Go get Ryan Miller dumbo!

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