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‘It sucks’: Flyers eliminated from playoff contention

Apr 19, 2013, 10:28 PM EDT

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The Philadelphia Flyers will not compete in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

That much was made official Friday evening, when the New York Rangers crushed the fading chances of the Flyers qualifying for the post-season with an 8-4 victory over the Buffalo Sabres. The Rangers win also eliminated the Sabres from playoff contention.

The Flyers lost five of their first seven games and never could get back to their winning ways of recent years.

“It’s the first time in a long time for Philadelphia, for myself, to be eliminated not by your own doing,” Flyers forward Scott Hartnell told CSN Philadelphia. “It sucks.”

The Flyers’ disappointing performance during this lockout-shortened season has led to questions about how the franchise moves forward.

This has led to talk about the future of head coach Peter Laviolette, although general manager Paul Holmgren recently gave the bench boss a vote of confidence, despite not making the playoffs.

And what about the future of high-priced goalie Ilya Bryzgalov, who is just two years into a nine-year, $51 million contract. Does he get bought out in the off-season?

The 32-year-old puck stopper has endured a second shaky season in Philadelphia, with an 18-17-3 record. His 2.84 goals-against average is ranked 38th among NHL goalies and his .898 save percentage is 45th in the league.

  1. 8man - Apr 19, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Eh. It happens. Move some pieces in the off season. Flyers will be back. We had ’em down 3-0 in a playoff series, and down 3-0 in a game 7 once.


    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:07 PM

      That was a great series for Flyers fans. But you surely got your revenge the next year. Disappointing season to be sure, but I’m excited to see what they do this offseason. It will probably be one of the most eventful in franchise history.

      • President Charles Logan - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:52 AM

        how do you figure? when all indications are the coach is staying put (foolishly) and that joke of a goaltender isnt a sure bet to be bought out … there’s still not a lot of cap space for you guys to use seeing how you refuse to part with some of these self proclaimed “young superstars” in the making . so who’s gonna go and who’s gonna stay? , obviously since the carter & richards trade you clearly havent been the same team

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

        Actually it was the Pronger injury that had far more impact on the trajectory of the franchise. No one was lamenting the departure of Carter and Richards last season when the Flyers were one of the top scoring teams in the league. Everyone underachieves this year and suddenly it’s due to Carter and Richards? It’s just not plausible in my mind. As for the offseason… do you think Holmgren realized his mistake in not landing a top-notch defender? I do. Holmgren has never been afraid to take a chance on a blockbuster. Couple that with an owner that desperately wants another Cup before he dies and you have the recipe for a lot of turnover. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hartnell’s name comes up in a lot of rumors. They will amnesty Briere and they’ll have Prongers LTIR exception added in next season. Besides that Idk what they’re gonna do (hopefully get rid of Bryz) but I can pretty much guarantee there will be a lot of changes outside the young, core pieces.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:34 AM

      If your not gonna be in the playoffs this fraud of a season is the one to do it in !

      • friedberg7 - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:51 AM

        Fraud of a season? Hahaha not if the Flyers won the Cup.

      • 8man - Apr 20, 2013 at 9:20 AM

        I wouldn’t call it a fraud of a season, but if you are insinuating that a full 82 would end up with a different set of playoff participants, I totally agree with you.

        It was this or nothing. I’m not big on “nothing.”

      • President Charles Logan - Apr 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM

        lol oh here comes all the delusional excuses from the flyers fanbase .. est 1975, happens every year , like clockwork

  2. live4hockey - Apr 19, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    What a great day!!

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:05 AM

      As someone who has enjoyed “hating” the Flyers since attending their second-ever game, a 4-2 Kings victory on Oct. 14, 1967, at, if I recall Long Beach Arena (Forum wasn’t finished yet), I will admit to smiling at this news. Don’t worry, as a mixed Leafs and Capitals fan, I too will be crying soon enough. But tonight, :-)

    • badintent - Apr 20, 2013 at 2:02 AM

      can always look forward to the Phillies, ah, maybe not, Always look foward to the Eagles….maybe not.. Always look forward to the 76ers…………….. no way ! Philly fans get what they deserve………….short end of the stick.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:33 AM

      What did you finally get off the waffle ?

  3. ludacrish05 - Apr 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Should have kept bob

  4. jimw81 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    tell flyers fans they already don’t know. alot of changes are coming. alot

  5. pens5829 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM


    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:19 AM

      How do you guys not understand that ALL of Pittsburghs accomplishments can be attributed to losing? Pens fans relish one bad Flyers season while your championship teams were built solely on annual futility. Do you not see the irony in celebrating ONE lost season of ours?

      • friedberg7 - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:58 AM

        Explain the 91 and 92 Cups. Yeah Mario was drafted in 84 but you can’t say the Pens won because of high draft picks. Unless you want to talk about the recent years then go ahead. Whatever makes you feel better.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:44 AM

        Are you kidding me? You’re gonna try and tell me that the Pens didn’t win their first two cups because of high draft picks? Craig Simpson drafted 2nd overall in 85, traded for Paul Coffey. Zarley Zalapski drafted 4th overall in 86, traded to acquire Ron Francis AND Ulf Samuelsson. Chris Joseph drafted 5th overall in 87, also traded in the Paul Coffey deal. Then were a couple other top 5 picks that didn’t amount to anything. And then we get to 1990 and who did the Pens draft 5th overall (another top-5 pick)? None other than Jaromir Jagr. So tell me again how the futility of your franchise didn’t get you those two cups? And that’s without even mentioning Mario! So do you think you win without Jagr, Lemieux, Coffey, Francis, and Samuelsson?? That’s FOUR Hall of Famers right there all acquired because the franchise you guys brag about lost for an entire decade.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:30 AM

      Penguin fans can relax now ! Just want to let all the yinzers know I will be rooting every second of every game against the team from Pittsburgh and will enjoy the thud of them being eventually eliminated from the playoffs ! Iam not going no where ! I truley am unable to decide if I enjoy a flyers win or a team from Pittsburgh lose more ! See you in the first round !

      • fbothharbaughs - Apr 20, 2013 at 7:24 AM

        @ eiggles… Where is it you’re not going? To the playoffs w/the rest of your Flyers?

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 8:14 AM

        I will be in my home theater rooting against the team from Pitysburgh every second of the playoffs ! See you in the first round cant wait !

      • fbothharbaughs - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        What a sad, bitter fool you are…

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM

        Did I hurt your feelings because I want the team from Pit out ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,too bad HAHAHAHAAHAHH its gonna be awesome THUD !

      • fbothharbaughs - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:43 AM

        No hurt feelings here, but certainly can’t say the same for the Eastern part of the state

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM

        Did I hurt you wittle feelings since I want to see the Pengy Wengies get knocked out aahhhhhhhhhhhhh! Sack up dude !

      • fbothharbaughs - Apr 22, 2013 at 6:55 PM

        Excellent comeback, King of all Douches…

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:33 AM

        Not really dude just keepin it real ! Lets go Boston ! See you in the first round !

      • theageofquarrel - Apr 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM

        What if Pittsburgh wins it all? Then what? You will get on PHT and do one of your completely and utterly ridiculous rants. I really really hope it happens because we all really wanna laugh and point at you.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:32 AM

      You would know

      • President Charles Logan - Apr 20, 2013 at 10:21 AM

        you’re one bitter lady iggles

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:20 AM

        AHHHHHHHHHHH are your feelings hurt because I want the team from Pit out AAHHHHHHHHHHHHH !

  6. canucks30 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    • buysamadrink - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

      Well Ilya, this year’s playoff universe does not contain the Philadelphia Flyers.

      • jimw81 - Apr 26, 2013 at 3:30 AM

        people love to mock this guy but really he’s a teacher.

  7. canucks30 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Here’s your messiah Flyers fans:

  8. mj1818 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Lets live in the present Philly. Flyers are rebuilding. Fire Laviolette, trade bryzgalov and giroux. Go pens!!

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM

      I wish the Flyers were ‘rebuilding.’ Unfortunately, they aren’t. Mr. Snider admitted it on CSN Philly with is interview with Lisa Hillary. Mr. Snider doesn’t believe in rebuilding rather in re-tooling. It’s tough to win a championship(s) when an organization is always re-tooling (just look the Eagles track record with Jeff Lurie). I’m looking forward to many changes. It has to start with the draft though. Near impossible to right the ship if you aren’t draft well.

      • jimw81 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM

        “re-tooling” means handing out contracts.

      • icelovinbrotha215 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:16 AM

        Contracts. Blockbuster trades. Whatever it means, it doesn’t work when the foundation is faulty. Simple as that.

    • drone501 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:35 AM

      pens are the hottest team in the league and don t show signs of letting up. bad news for the eastern conf.

  9. DonkeyStick - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Thank goodness they suck in the best draft in 15 years

  10. stakex - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    I think a lot of Flyers fans might be mad come next season when Laviolette is behind the bench and Bryzgalov is in net when the puck drops next season. I could be wrong about that, but it wouldn’t shock me at all to see both of them stay with the Flyers.

    Laviolettes record with the Flyers was pretty good until this season, and he might get to at least start the season next year. If it starts to go south early, a change can always be made then. I just don’t see him getting axed over one bad season with a so-so roster. As for Bryz, I think its going to come down to two things: A limited goalie market, and the amount of money the Flyers would have to pay him NOT to play for them. Its a lot…

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:23 AM

      There are a lot of reports circulating in Philly that one will stay and one will go. I’ve heard that Laviolette is not a Bryz fan, and vice versa. So if Lavy is fired then most “experts” think Bryz stays. But if he’s given another chance then the consensus is Bryz will be amnestied. Personally I’d rather see the goalie go but who knows.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:45 AM

        Myrtetus, Seravalli, and SanFilippo have all pushed this scenario.

    • jimw81 - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:31 AM

      Bryz was a snider signing. so that answers your theory.

  11. whatthepuck2012 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Um, Hartnell, this elimination WAS of the Flyers own doing.

  12. csilojohnson - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    Don’t take it so personal. You usually don’t get caught up in the mindless trash talk.
    Mason has a lot of upside. Maby hope mason can take the #1. Bryz is an expensive backup. More expensive buy out. Maby he’ll find his game as a backup. Less pressure. Dont know much about their farm team. Seems they need some defensive depth. Or signings that work out. Better injury luck and they will be back.
    But either way….Flyers suck!
    Lets go Pens!

  13. jimw81 - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    As a flyers fan since 80’s i have to say this has to be one of the most hated teams ever put together in Flyers history .Atleast the team that got the second pick didnt quit everynight like this team did. It took allot of balls from Briere, who did squat this year but sat in press box most of year, had the balls to call the team tonight for not making the playoffs.

    The Players I think are done as Flyers: Fedotenko,Shelley,Knuble,Hall,Walker,Hall,Foster.Huskins and Gagne stay.Briere and Bryz get buyout.

    • President Charles Logan - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:54 AM

      lol gagne … let it go with the fossils and retreads already

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM

        Gagne may not be the point producer he once was but he was good on the PP and the occasional PK. He’s a nice veteran presence as well. He’s not gonna get $3.5 mil like his last contract but if he wants to sign a cheap deal then I would not mind having him as a 3rd liner. You can look at his stat line and tell us he’s terrible but he does the little things besides score. He’s no Knuble.

    • letsgopens8771 - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      You said Hall twice. I agree, most of those players are older than dirt. And Shelley… Dear Lord.

  14. jonkchar - Apr 20, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    “to be eliminated not by your own doing’ ………………???????????


  15. buffalomafia - Apr 20, 2013 at 6:53 AM

    Common sense says get Ryan Miller!

  16. letsgopens8771 - Apr 20, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    HAHAHA!!! Music to my ears!! Hartnell, you are full of crap. I mean if your hockey team is below .500, I would definitely consider that “by your own doing.” Now every Flyers fan is speculating about what to do in the offseason! Delicious. I always love to see the Flyers and their fans in Panic Mode, but eat it up Philly, you deserve it. If the Flyers were wise, they would commit to Mason as their starter or trade for Bobby Lu. Also, they might have to start parting with some younger guys like Manning (example) and use them to get Yandle. The first step, however, is canning your brickhead GM, who signed an inconsistent goalie who is definitely crackers. Re-building, re-tooling, call it what you want, but the Flyers were bad this year and they need it.

    Oh and thanks again, Philly, now we can get an easy 1st round win and coast on to another cup. BTW, if anyone still thinks that Philly could beat my boys in the 1st round this year, we won the season series. Plus, look how were playing now even without key players. :) Good Luck to the Flyers on the Golf Course. Hope Bryz hits his ball deep into the woods and finds a bear.


    GO PENS!!!

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM

      It’s great to see you guys handing yourself another Cup before any games have been played. It’s worked out so well the past few seasons for you. Typical Pens fan faulty thinking, “I have a bunch of stars so nothing could go wrong.”

      • drone501 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:43 AM

        this is not your typical pens team. these guys are playing lights out, good goaltending and hell i almost forgot about sid, neal and martin being out. this team is loaded and playing excellent hockey. only way they lose is if they beat themselves. last year they went into the playoffs blowing big leads and poor defense. i know who my money will be on.

      • ryanrockzzz - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:26 PM

        Yea it makes sense to bet on the team that has been the New York Yankees of hockey this year.

  17. crazemastercraze - Apr 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    “Not by your own doing”? Man, the players are as delusional as their fans!

  18. live4hockey - Apr 20, 2013 at 8:54 AM

    Ha! It takes a string of bad seasons to build a great team in the draft! Perhaps you will be there, but don’t pretend like one season will get that done for you. You also have to draft well…it’s not a given. So yes, we will enjoy this….much as you enjoyed it in the past. So go ahead and tell yourself how ironic it is, or whatever you want to tell yourself to make it hurt less, and enjoy the off season.

  19. footballfan - Apr 20, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    I’m not a Philly fan by any means but I have to say I am disappointed. Amazing how a team with so much talent just tanks. I’m thinking leadership is needed more than anything else.

  20. drez146 - Apr 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    So can we stop talking about this team now, thanks.

  21. flyeredup - Apr 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    JVR, Richards, Carter, Bobrovsky all in playoffs as of now. Holmgren is a joke.

    • President Charles Logan - Apr 20, 2013 at 10:23 AM

      jvr sucked and bob wasnt going to be anything more then a flash in the pan

  22. schumacherbill - Apr 20, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Love It! Could not happen to a better group of fans.

  23. flyerguy73 - Apr 20, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    This team deserves to be exactly where they are! Getting ready for golf season. Most of the team was a huge disappointment. I am almost glad they didn’t make the playoffs, to be embarrassed with a first round exit. Flyers fans have nothing to be happy about this year with the way they played. Very sad.

  24. modellforprez - Apr 20, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    What Happened Filth. cmon slime did hartsy really just say the will not participate in playoffs and its not their fault. what a joke whos fault is it?? you have yourself, the best player on ice in claud the fraud and then you have simmers and the schenns. yalls is stacked with talent nymsayingtoyou. i will have a chesse wit. peter loserliatte is the best coach holmgreasy is the best G.m well maybe next year loseradelphia damn whats it been 40-50 years since you c*nts won anything. remember master Pittsburgh will always RUN this state in everything Except baseball but hey you guys can have the pirates if you want them.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

      You’re a terrible pun machine. Stop looking at your sister and take an English class.

  25. raoool - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    yes, it does suck. as did the Flyers this year.

    The picture of the Bryzaster at the top of this article needs one of those goofball clown noses.

  26. flyeredup - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Iggles is what gives us true Philadelphians a bad wrap. Shut your trap, get some class and be a fan. Represent Philly dude.

  27. President Charles Logan - Apr 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Speaking as a neutral observer that just likes to rile up the Philly faithful on here… the fact remains that since the Pens drafted Lemeiux in what was it? 82 83? they have been the more successful franchise . the results only matter when you win the Stanley Cup, nobody remembers the runner up , the Pens are 3 for 4 in the Finals , the Flyers are what? 2 for 8? and have had plenty of oppurtunities to better that ratio since 1975 , but have failed to do so. This lame using the excuse of last place finishes to build the team through high draft picks is getting old… . I bet the Flyers fans would have traded a few of those embarrassing 1st and 2nd round playoff losses in the early 2000’s when they were eliminated by teams like ottawa and buffalo any day for maybe a couple of lower finishes in the standings in order to get some Crosby’s or Malkins drafted huh? …. with all due respect phillyphantic77, Pronger was never the same after Chicago’s big Buff made him his “biatch” in the final 4 game sof the finals a few years back , quite frankly the the nest year he was older and slower, sure it hurt losing his presence but the Carter and Richards losses will haunt this franchise for years , come to grips and accept it son.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM

      There is a huge difference between being eliminated in the 1st round and picking top-2 every year. Would I like having those stars? Absolutely, but I also have pride in the fact that the team that I root for does whatever it can to be in the running every season. The Penguins were horrendous for the entire decade of the 80s and maybe even worse for the early 2000s and it’s the reason they have 3 Cups. How is that a lame excuse on our part? I get tired of Pens fans acting like gods gift to the sports world when half of them couldn’t name 3 players on their 2003 team. It’s unbelievably easy to be a fan when your team is winning and has numerous stars. The City of Philadelphia consistently records excellent attendance numbers (aside from the Sixers) and we have what? One championship in the last 3 decades? People in Pittsburgh don’t know what it’s like to support a struggling team bc they’re only there when they’re on top. And they’ve been absolutely spoiled with good luck. I want a Stanley Cup, or a Lombardi trophy, or a World Series victory more than anything, but in the meantime I will continue to support my teams win, lose, or draw. And yeah the Flyers have a terrible Finals record but atleast some of that can be attributed to facing two of history’s great dynasties in 70s Canadiens and the 80s Oilers (twice). Do you think I would’ve like to have played the Minnesota NorthStars in a series?? But the Flyers will be right back next season, I absolutely believe that. I know you hate our core but any other objective fan can see our young forwards have a ton of potential. I’d take Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, and Couturier over Carter and Richards any day. And you’re totally underestimating Pronger. His play did not drop off at any noticeable rate from the Finals to the next season. Of course he wasn’t at the 2000 Hart and Norris trophy winning level but he was still the equivalent of Chara. With all due respect I disagree with all your points, even if you’re just trying to push our buttons.

      • President Charles Logan - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM

        77 , good to know you stick by your team and I never said you shouldnt but the end results are who hoists the trophy at the end of the year .. you always make some good points but you tend to wear the rose colored glasses too long to see past the light . Pronger was NOT the same Chris Pronger after the Finals , even before the concussion and eye injury, and gimme a break on Voracek , Simmonds , Schenn and Couturier you’d take them over Carter and Richards?? under what grounds are you able to make a statement like that? what have they done thats been so outstanding? , this whole system under Laviolette isnt working… how hard is that to grasp?

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 20, 2013 at 5:53 PM

        His offensive statistics dropped off but his game in the defensive zone was no different. He was still the same force and better than 75% of the defenders across the league. As for Carter and Richards… Ive watched them play their entire careers. Jeff Carter is one of the most one dimensional players I’ve ever seen. I was a Richards fan and he was a decent captain but neither are worth their extensive contracts. Carter put up 29 pts in 44 games and Richards put up 30 in 44. Voracek has 43 in 44, Simmonds has 27, Schenn has 24, and Couturier has 14… how is that unbelievable to you? Just Voracek and Simmonds combined have more points. It’s no contest, I’ll take the younger players with the higher ceilings. It’s a no-brainer. Those two were not even close to the reason why the Kings won the Cup. That doesn’t make me a homer, I think most experts would agree.

  28. hines86for6 - Apr 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Preds fan here. This makes me so happy. With their massive payroll and “superior market”, the Flyers show off just how fat disappointments can be.

    “but, but, but if that small market team we have an undue sense of entitlement over had just done what they’re supposed to do and roll over we would be in the playoffs. its not fair!”

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. big lulz at Filthy.

  29. bobhpine - Apr 21, 2013 at 2:30 AM



    Never gonna win the cup, never gonna say goodbye, never gonna be anything but losers.

  30. bobhpine - Apr 21, 2013 at 3:07 AM

    Seriously though. You would take Voracek and Simmonds et al over Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fleury? Come on man. I respect that you’re a fan, but admit that the core in Philly is uninspiring at best.

    Perhaps the dumbest assertion about the Pens is that they are only good because they sucked and drafted high. Letang, lower first round pick, Martin, free agent signing, morrow and iginla, trade, Kunitz, trade, Sutter, trade, Dupuis, trade, Murray, trade, Niskanen, trade, Despres, low first round pick, jokinen, trade, Orpik, low first round pick, Neal, trade, Cooke, free agent signing, Kennedy, mid round pick, Adams, free agent, glass, free agent.

    Basically Crosby, Malkin and Fleury are the only high first round picks on the team, and two of them aren’t even playing while the pens continue to dominate…all three didnt play today while the Pens handled the Bruins, in Boston, on a day where you’d think the emotions would carry the B’s.

    Maybe, gasp, just maybe the Pens are just a great franchise parlaying three high first round picks into a dominant team put together by superior management.

    Nah. Far easier to curse Crosby and Malkin and say their is a conspiracy afoot to make the penguins awesome!


    • ryanrockzzz - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:34 PM

      As a Flyers fan, I think blaming the Pens success on high draft pics is just stupid also. The problem with the Flyers is player development. They develop a lot of “pretty good” players. Goaltending has been laughable forever here becuase the Flyers always try and solve it with free agents who can’t live up to expectations. God forbid this team developes a goalie, or just gets a break in that area. *Bobvrosky was inconsistent when in Philly, and now he’s playing lights out.*

      The Penguins have taken advantage of franchise changing selections in years when special players were available. Kinda like the Colts in football. They luck out and get Payton Manning, and then get Andrew Luck. Other pieces are still needed however to support those players. The Flyers have no legit superstar right now. Giroux? He looked overwhealmed this year. Until the Flyers can acquire more high end talent they will continue to flame out.

  31. wcdunkenfield - Apr 25, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    As a lifelong Flyers fan (my first game was in 1967), I’d say that our success and failure over the years in the playoffs depended more on goalies and defense than anything else. When we won those Cups long ago, we rode Bernie P like the horse he was. Since then, we were often good enough to make the playoffs, but not good enough to win because the defense was tired or the goalies not quite up to the opposition. A hot goalie can just simply raise the rest of the team up because they can take chances. It gets in everyone’s head that they can press the offense since the hot guy in net will protect them. With the exception of Hextall, who was feared for his craziness, was any other goalie the equal of Parent? Peeters, Resch, Van B, Linneberg, Nittymaki, Chechmanek, Froese? None of those guys hold a candle to Bernie. You have to go back to Favell, who spelled Parent, to find a goalie that could help in a significant way. And, of course, one never knew what Hexie would do. (But, god love him, he was entertaining.) Goalies, gents, goalies make the difference. The GM’s could but 4 fourth lines out there and win with a hot goalie. And we’ve had one, maybe two, hot goalies all those years in Philly.

    • jimw81 - Apr 26, 2013 at 3:28 AM

      It’s the curse of Pelle Lingburgh that hurt the flyers in net.

      As for the Flyers, i think they did right thing and playing with pride for the rest of the season. I think everyone including players with NMC are exposed to trades including hartnell. hartnell’s act is getting old in the locker room. As for the goaltending sitution, i think bryz is coming back. there was a rift btw bryz and lavy and it showed during this past season. problem with this team from the start was there was no preseason. lavy loves playing that high tempo offense and didnt get implent everything he wanted with this garbage personnel, it was done on the fly but it doesnt excuse him for his mistakes. there is no argument not to bring back lavy, top ten pp and pk but suck 5 on 5, it happens. not making playoffs in 2 out 18 season isnt bad but it’s not toronto bad. it’s time for the flyers to make the moves in offseason, lick their wombs and come back and kick some ass.

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