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Video: PHT Extra — What’s wrong with the Rangers?

Apr 17, 2013, 9:00 PM EDT

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At the beginning of the season, many picked the New York Rangers as a favorite to win the Stanley Cup.

It hasn’t exactly gone to plan.

The Rangers went into Wednesday night’s action clinging to the eighth and final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference, even on points with Winnipeg but ahead in the standings thanks to games in hand.

How did it get to this point? What’s gone wrong? And, most importantly — can it be fixed?

Brough and I tackled all those questions in the latest PHT Extra:

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  1. bcisleman - Apr 17, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    The Stanley Cup favorite talk was always a bunch of hype. No matter how many high priced and hyped forwards the Rangers sign, their core is their goaltender and defense. Nash and Callahan are the type of gritty forwards who will help this team. Not sure that either Richards or Gaborik was ever a fit.. Kreider may develop into the kind of dominant center they need, but he has been horribly mismanaged. If I were Slats, I would look to trade Richards perhaps for Brian Campbell-assuming the Cats don’t re-sign Weiss and assuming both players agreed. NYR would have to eat some of Richards’ contract. Then, above all, I’d work hard to extend HL. And I’d give Kreider a chance to make the 1st line center position his.

    • jms2899 - Apr 17, 2013 at 10:05 PM

      Kreider is a winger and has been since high school. Richards will probably be given until the end of next season to become a first liner again and if he does not he will be bought out because nobody will trade for his contract under the current cba. Hopefully Stepan continues to improve as he is already a good first line center but not yet at the level of some of the all star centers we have in the east. All that being said i hope Tortorella gives Kreider more then seven minutes a game and he has a chance to contribute to a playoff run.

  2. bensawesomeness - Apr 17, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    My bad guys – i have alot of Rangers on my fantasy team, players historically don’t do well when i pick them -_-

    • bleedbluebaby - Apr 18, 2013 at 12:13 PM

      lol… I had a few on my fantasy team as well and it didn’t pan out so well. Maybe now that fantasy is ending, the curse will be lifted and we’ll win the rest of the season. haha

    • nyrfan - Apr 18, 2013 at 2:04 PM

      I have the same problem. Aside from Nash and Stepan, there’s quite a few guys that have way under performed.

      • bensawesomeness - Apr 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM

        somehow i was ‘lucky’ enough to have Gaborik, Richards, and Nash. Nash has been playing well enough to make up for the other two, but all the same, i was supposed to light up my league, and i barely squeaked in

  3. murtdurt - Apr 17, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    1) Everything
    2) Glen Sather
    3) John taponrella
    Pick 2

  4. thehairychestsportsblog - Apr 17, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    Attention….Attention….We are looking for any Rangers or Canes fans……ohh where…ohh where have you gone????? We miss the Rangers drink from the Cup talk and The Semin for MVP trash….. LOVE IT!!!

    Please come back

    • bleedbluebaby - Apr 18, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      lol… I had a few on my fantasy team as well and it didn’t pan out so well. Maybe now that fantasy is ending, the curse will be lifted and we’ll win the rest of the season. haha

  5. jkay1818 - Apr 17, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Here’s an even shorter answer, Tortorella. The players have tuned him out for a while now, you know it’s bad when the fans have tuned him out as well.

    Coming from a die hard NYR fan, it’s so stressful the way he manages players, flip flops the lines constantly and doesn’t allow them to get into a rhythm. How can a team form chemistry under these circumstances? A line can be rolling for 3 games straight, the minute a game comes and it’s scoreless in the second, he gets restless and experiments with new lines.
    He should have also zapped the PP duties away from Sullivan a long time ago. Lots of puck movement with no shots, and again a lot of jumbling the lines. They seem to have more of a spark lately but thats due to the new faces rather than any coaching changes.
    The comment above me, you talk as if the Rangers are the 12th seed and not in the playoffs nor have a shot. They have a good D with Marc Staal returning, and a world class goalie. They have enough star power to get hot. In a 7 game series with lundqvist and that D they still aren’t that easy to beat 4 times in 7 games. They are an absolute enigma. they can come out and trash the best of teams and then lose 3-1 the next game to Florida. Again, coaching has a lot to do with that, just like they didnt wake up for yesterdays game until the 3rd.
    Sather gets a bad wrap, he is the architect for these young guys. he also dumped gomez while getting mcdonagh in return and also allowing them to free cap room to get gaborik. once he fell out of favor he got some nice pieces for them. He drafted cherepanev who passed away who was going to be a star. drafted dubi, anisimov, traded up for staal, took girardi undrafted, stepan, callahan, lundqvist, miller, krieder, mike sauer, del zotto..etc, etc…People forget, when he signed all those guys, most people were ecstatic. Names like bure get thrown around, jagr , fluery and others. They gave up no one for jagr and bure. before his knee went bure was a goal a game, jagr was dominant and fluery was good before the drugs and alcohol overcame him. James dolan was the biggest culprit in this, he has a ton of money and sather never had that luxury being in edmonton. he wanted him to spend, spend, spend until it didnt work and sather finally did it his way.

  6. ludacrish05 - Apr 17, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    The rangers are the cowboys of the NHL, always a lot of hype for nothing. Sorry

  7. nyrnashty - Apr 17, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Too many 5-15 forward goal scorers (In an 82 game season) on this team. Torts likes too many grinders on his roster. He uses the word jam lol, but they’re grinders plain and simple. You don’t need Asham, Boyle, Powe and Pyatt on the same roster that’s just crazy! He just expects everyone to block shots with their face every game and have Lundqvist be the hero. The Hasek led Buffalo teams were like this and they won zero cups. Can’t just play defensive hockey and expect to win a cup in today’s game. Way to many random penalties are called these days. It’s not pre 2005 hockey anymore.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 18, 2013 at 4:58 AM

      I don’t know if I agree about too many grinders, but I will say the Rangers don’t have enough scorers (obviously). I mean they always seem to score goals against Philly (thanks Bryz) but if you contain Nash it’s hard for NY to win. Stepan and Callahan can put the puck in the net but not like Gaborik and Richards could when they were on. Like others have said, I think Torts really hinders the teams ability to build chemistry w/ constant line juggling. Laviolette does the same thing. But you guys should atleast take solace in the fact that Lundqvist could carry the team thru the playoffs. He’s hands down the best in the league, IMO.

  8. nyrnashty - Apr 17, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Another thing imagine being a goal scorer and some guy is asking you to block shots every game! Please I would just stick my stick out to the side if the puck hits it, I blocked a shot. News to Torts goal scorers don’t like to block shots at any level of hockey. You can’t force goal scorers to block shots. I bet Gaborik is extremely happy to get out of NY. He wasn’t trying to block shots, Nash doesn’t get paid to block shots etc.

    • rpiotr01 - Apr 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM

      Gabby was a frickin soldier, all things considered. He did it without complaint, he turned out to be a great team player. However, the fact that he OK’d a trade to Columbus – a team not on his original trade list – should say something about his feelings playing under Torts…

  9. rpiotr01 - Apr 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    I’m afraid this is a familiar pattern for Torts. Had a good thing going in TB, culminated in a long cup run and cup victory, then after that he lost the players.

    Last year with NYR they had a long cup run but couldn’t get over the hump, and now it appears he’s lost the players again. I like Torts a lot but I’m afraid it’s over in NY. How much longer he stays on as coach is another story, but this team has peaked under him.

    Fortunetely I think they have some good young talent on the roster so there’s no reason for them to necessarily bottom out, but a change in management is needed.

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