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Time running out on Flyers’ slim playoff hopes

Apr 10, 2013, 12:26 AM EDT

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Reality may be setting in on the Philadelphia Flyers’ slim – very slim, at this point – playoff hopes.

A 4-1 loss to the New York Islanders – also in search of a post-season spot and currently among the top eight teams in the Eastern Conference – Tuesday night may have in fact ruined any chance the Flyers have qualifying for the post-season.

The Flyers now sit 12th in the East, and are five points back of the New York Rangers for the final playoff spot. The Flyers only have nine games remaining in their schedule in order to make a charge. Time is running out.

Tim Panaccio of CSN Philadelphia summed it up perfectly in his post-game recap: “They almost need a miracle.”

“Probably,” Flyers forward Scott Hartnell told CSN Philly. “We know where we sit and how big this game was. “You’re trying to do the right thing when you’re working hard and create things and stuff like that.

“There are times and places where, like the last minute of a hockey game or a period, where you need to make a smart play.

“Seems like when we make a mistake it always goes in our net and we’re always frustrated and the heads go down and it goes on from there.”

  1. drone501 - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    the flyers is dead.

    • canucks30 - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:31 AM

      It appears as if someone missed English class.

  2. pitpenguinsrulez - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    Captain: Yes mate?
    Crewman: I see an iceberg ahead.
    Captain: Oh Really!? Whats your point?
    Crewman: Were going to hit it!
    Captain: Keep dreaming bud!
    Crewman: Were 9 feet away from it!!
    Captain: Looks like were screwed unless we pull out a miracle!!

    Can the U.S.S Philadelphia Flyer be saved? Tune in tomorrow night at 7pm to find out what happens next on Flyerspuck Z!

    • kyzslew77 - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:10 AM

      I hate the Flyers as much as anyone does, but that’s extremely unfunny. Please be less unfunny in the future or don’t post at all.

      • pitpenguinsrulez - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:31 AM

        Gee I had no clue that I’m suppose to please you with my comment! I guess the internet police really got me there with my comment!

      • kyzslew77 - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:34 AM

        Don’t be mad that I pointed out that you’re unfunny. Look, let’s just agree that the Flyers suck and leave it at that.

      • pitpenguinsrulez - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:37 AM

        I’m not mad nor do I really care. All that matters like you said is that we both hate the Flyers.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Apr 10, 2013 at 6:47 AM

      Yes just like the flyers and the titanic your old lady is use to going down !

      • fbothharbaughs - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:25 AM

        Wow… unbelievable that eiggles… would resort to mom/old lady jokes….

        Guess the Flyers “Stanley Cup” was beating the Pens in last year’s playoffs.

        Oh, & 1975

      • pens5829 - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:54 PM

        Dude must be some kinda “giggilo” because he’s always sleeping with someone’s mom? That’s when HIS mom let’s him out of the house.

    • biffnasty - Apr 10, 2013 at 7:22 AM

      Yeah thats just bad..real bad. I wouldnta posted anything at all. Or maybe gone for a post involving hartnells souless ginger perm, thats always comedic gold.

  3. tackledummy1505 - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Scott, that’s because we don’t have a 1 or 2 defensive man on the roster. Luke Schenn is a 3rd defensive man at best and the rest are 4, 5, or 6’s. this offseason will be very interesting but you can pretty much believe that Briere will be gone because of his contract and Bryz will be bought out as well. Bryz had a good season, but he’s making superstar money and in the Flyers’ gameplan he’s average in most games. I believe with that money freed up you’ll see Mason take over, while they find ways to add better defensemen to play in front of him. I believe if they can get 1 or 2 top defensemen into the roster the Flyers will return to the dominant team they were like last season. Only other question is what Pronger ends up doing. If Pronger doesn’t retire than there’s a chance Briere will remain with the team and Pronger will be bought out. Flyers can’t take a chance on someone else going down for the year and risking losing cap space. So here’s hoping a miracle does happen and the Flyers do make a run for the cup. It’s the only way none of these things happen.

    • hockeyflow33 - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:02 AM

      New paragraph please

    • President Charles Logan - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:31 AM

      did you just say the flyers were a dominant team last season?? lol and also did you just say that bryzgalov had a good season?

      whoa

    • steelpenbucs87 - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM

      So I don’t disagree with your assessment of the Flyguy’s short comings, but I do question your solutions – namely where do you intend to get these replacements? Dropping Briere and Bryz would net you about $12m in cap space, but with the cap going down the true cap gain would not be that much…. also while its easy for us to just sit here and say “buy that guy out” you are asking the Owners to give up 10s of millions of real dollars (not cap dollars) to get that done…

      But more importantly – where do you intend to find replacements for these guys and grab the 1/2 defensemen that you seem to covet so much? The UFA Dmen are not the best crop going into this year, filled with very “seasoned” vets (Gonchar, Streit, Whitney, Zidlicky, Corvo, Scuderi, etc.) and a host of younger guys who really aren’t that great. The goalie crop isn’t much better unless you want to overpay for a Ray Emery or a Nick Backstrom….

      I just don’t see the Flyers blowing everything up that quickly and if so – the rebuild will take a lot longer.

  4. jimw81 - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    This team better yet this whole organization lost it’s identity of playing with heart and leaving it on all the ice. We have a team of spoiled young players and veterans who decided to use a 48 game season and turn it into a vacation of ‘show up when we felt like it’ attitude. It all starts from the top. Paul Homlgren is handed out contracts left and couldnt get players to come here over the summer except garbage players and now he can’t close out deals at trading deadline, that is sad.

    Another problem is the coach. The Flyers have a coach who preaches an “No Fighting” attitude and turn the other cheek. Don’t fight for pucks in the corner or skate hard on every shift. it’s the polar opposite of who the Philadelphia Flyers are and suppose to be.Flyers are heading to gutter unless Snider gets control of that front office and puts real hockey personnel people in their instead of his best friends.

    As for the future, Flyers fans You have to give up something to get something. Flyers have plenty of young forwards, they lack Defenseman. It time to suck it up and realize Coots is getting traded in the offseason.The Flyers just arent the premier destination for UFAs and players on the trading block like they once were. Not good sign at all. i hope Ed Snider realized it as well.

  5. canucks30 - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:04 AM

    Homer Simpson on the 2013 Philadelphia Flyers:

  6. gary15217 - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:25 AM

    The Flyers suck and they will be golfing. Giroux holding Crosby’s jockstrap? Bwahaha!!!

  7. canucks30 - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:45 AM

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  9. canucks30 - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:21 AM

    • ibieiniid - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:49 AM

      thanks for the youtube highlight show a-hole.

      • canucks30 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:23 AM

  10. canucks30 - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:28 AM

    I’m sure Pennsylvania Hockey Talk will continue have the obligatory daily updates on Sidney Crosby’s convalescence and the trials of tribulations of all things Flyers.

    • blackfoot11 - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:11 AM

      PHT definitely will continue to throw many bones into the daily Pens v. Flyers fan dogfight . They know Flyers and Pens articles get a s*itload of hits and comments by fans of both teams, and the rest of us will click to read the debate/smack talk. Its not just about site content, as the entertainment factor and site traffic in and out of articles are equally important. PHT knows “What good for the goose, is good for the gander.”

  11. mordock57 - Apr 10, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    Is it too late to start calling it the NHL game cover curse, a la Madden Curse? Giroux tanked this season for a guy being compared to Crosby last season.

    • cheesesteak75 - Apr 10, 2013 at 5:37 AM

      Giroux should have never been compared to Crosby. He needs to play at a top level for more than a few months before the comparisons start.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM

        you can blame that blowhard laviolette for that…now giroux has the pressure of not only being a captain of the flyers (enough pressure) and the world waiting for him to live up to crosby-like expectations on top of it. not fair to a good player who has never said those things himself, correct me if i’m wrong but he hasnt ever said he was the best in the world – his idiot of a coach did.

      • ml3939 - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:26 PM

        Jpelle82, I think you nailed it. Giroux never compared himself to anyone or implied he was better than anyone or even on another player’s level. In this case the player obviously is Crosby. The other issue is Laviolette’s statement was intended for that moment in time during that playoff series. Because he did not qualify his statement, message board idiots are running with it as being applicable for an infinite period of time. Any reasonable non-Flyer, non-Giroux hater knows Laviolette meant within the confines of that playoff series. I m sure he himself or even Giroux would indicate Crosby is the greatest active player in the game. However during that 6 game series last spring, Giroux was the better player.

        Unrelated to that statement, Giroux is having an off year but he is still averaging a point a game and is the cog of possibly the best power play unit in the league. All of the message board posters hating on him act as if he has turned into Jonathan Cheechoo. Giroux is still a star.

      • lostpuppysyndrome - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:39 PM

        My eyes roll whenever I hear “so and so is the best player out there blah blah blah…” from the media and hockey mgmt. Remember when folks were saying Lecavalier was the best? Like him or not, Cros is the best, night in and night out, and has been since he set skate in the NHL.

  12. canucks30 - Apr 10, 2013 at 5:18 AM

    Except the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup with NHL 10 cover boy Pat Kane scoring the cup winning goal in OT that year

  13. capsfan19 - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    I dont think giroux is even close to crosby… And this is from someone who is not a fan of sid.

  14. 2qswing - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    Jackets ticket holder here
    I watched last night to see Mason. Say what you want about Columbus but they don’t give up odd-man rushes and are really strong in their own zone. They just struggle to score.
    Mason faced more odd-man rushes last night than he faced here all year. I really don’t watch the Flyers all that much but that D …. woof!

    • xflyersx - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM

      THIS IS MY NIGHTMARE

    • valoisvipers - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:31 AM

      Welcome to Bryz’s world, good luck to you Mason as you will need lots of it.

  15. heyzeus143 - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    Knock knock

    • valoisvipers - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:32 AM

      I’ll bite…Who’s there?

      • canucks30 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:26 AM

        Just say YES to Luongo!

  16. islesjb - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    Feel for you Flyers fans but I’m not going to lie- it feels great putting the final nail in the Philadelphia coffin. Especially since the Flyers have owned the Isles every year in recent memory.

    Can’t make the playoffs every year- an Islander fan should now. They’ll be back next season.

  17. seannymo - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    So then why this stupid article anout a team thats losing and why not an article about how the isles are 7-1-1 in their last 9 and put themselves in a great position to make the postseason.

    • islesjb - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:11 AM

      They wrote an article on the Isles too

      • seannymo - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:41 PM

        they posted it 4 minutes after my comment which makes me happy. go isles!

  18. prosportswashington - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    They just don’t seem to learn: the goaltending is always bad because the D men are always injured and lack a good top 4 anyways. If they go out and get 2 top D men they would be sooo much better

    • ibieiniid - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:39 AM

      i mean, you can’t say that the defense has been injured/horrible since Ron Hextall. Philadelphia is goalie-cursed…. combined with making horrible goalie decisions.

      • prosportswashington - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:43 AM

        But goalies have success when they leave Philly and before they arrive. I’m only talking the last 5-6 years ish (im British and I’m pretty new to Ice Hockey)

      • ibieiniid - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        no problem, i was just going off that word ‘always.’

        in the past, Philly has had cup-contender level defense. our goalies have fallen short so many times before.

  19. drez146 - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    I don’t see why the Flyers are even relevant, can we please talk about teams that have a chance in making the playoffs

    • ibieiniid - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:54 AM

      they were relevant until those last 2 games. but don’t worry. another 2 weeks and you’ll get all the playoff coverage you ever wanted.

      I’m gonna hafta go for the Caps in the east and the Ducks in the west. my 2 favorite teams behind the Flyers. and division rivalries aside, it’d be cool to see NYI come from nowhere like the Kings last year. I like the Islanders right now. they’re a classy, talented bunch. even Martin last night after running into Mason, then fighting over it, went to Mason later in the game and you could read his lips saying “Sorry I hit you earlier.”

  20. jaybird22seven - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    Time has run out !!!!
    Maybe next year Flyers !!!

  21. phillyphanatic77 - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Well the comeback has proven too little too late. Two straight, embarrassing 4-1 losses finally closes the door on any playoff chances. This season was doomed from the start. The team never built any rhythm, everyone underachieved, and when you’re not playing well it’s hard to overcome 160+ man games lost to injury. Even missing 3 out of their top 6 defensemen I expected them to put up a little fight last night. But they rolled over. The Islanders were a better team, no question. Mason did a very good job (aside from the 1st goal which was a softie), and he deserves to start most, if not all, of the remaining games. I don’t think there’s any question that there is no reason to give Bryz another start this year and that his days in a Flyers jersey are likely over. Both sides should have learned from Luongo that these long term, expensive contracts can totally handcuff a franchise. They have no choice, to improve this team the Flyers must get rid of Briere and Bryz, draft a difference maker, and swing a trade for a young, top notch defenseman. I have total faith that Holmgren will do what is necessary to put this team back amongst the Eastern Conference elite, where they belong. The first step is ridding the organization of Bryzgalovs albatross contract.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:58 AM

      I agree, it’s too obvious of a decision for Holmgren to not buyout Bryzgalov at the very least.

      Who you goin’ for for the cup now?

  22. joewilliesshnoz - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Bye, bye, Lav’s.

  23. iHeartHockey31 - Apr 10, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    About last night….. Steve Mason still had his [blue] Columbus mask & his pads had some blue color accents on them. With an orange jersey & the blue accents from his equipment, Gustafsson likely mistook Mason for [blue & orange wearing Islanders goalie] Nabby when he knocked the puck into the [Flyers] net. He thought he was scoring for the Flyers. It’s not his fault.

    I’m pretty sure that’s why Mason didn’t play against the Leafs and wasn’t the intended starter against the Jets. Coach Laviolette was concerned with Mason’s blue mask, against other prodominately blue color teams, Gustafsson would get confused and try to score on the wrong net.

    I’m sure once Mason gets a new mask & pads [or one of our defencement returns & Gus can scratched] we’ll stop scoring goals for the other team. [Seriously is anyone keeping track of how many goals Gus has scored for OTHER teams? That's not the first time he's done it]

    • ibieiniid - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:06 AM

      dude Gustafsson is probably the worst Flyer in recent memory. I know he’s an AHLer, but I like nothing about his game except his speed. I’ve been saying it all season, it’s horrible that we need him due to all these injuries.

  24. ndrick731 - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Pens are just happy they don’t have to at Flyers in the 1st round.

    • pens5829 - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM

      Keep telling yourself that. Gives you something to hang onto until the fall…

    • whatthepuck2012 - Apr 13, 2013 at 1:09 AM

      I’m thrilled that we don’t have to at Flyers, because I don’t know wtf that even means.

  25. jazzyherb - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    No,pens are happy flyers keep trading away good goalies! Last night former flyers emery and bobrovsky both had shutouts

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