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Fragile Flyers: Timonen leaves game late with injury

Apr 4, 2013, 10:47 PM EDT

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Thursday presented enough bad news for the Philadelphia Flyers in the form of Zac Rinaldo being out indefinitely with high-ankle sprain, but another injury happened during the team’s 5-3 win against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Kimmo Timonen left the game late in the third period with an undisclosed injury and didn’t return.

The aging defenseman was seen limping around the locker room and refused to provide details, according the Philadelphia Inquirer’s Sam Carchidi.

This news puts a damper on what would be an unusually chipper day for the Flyers, as their win and a series of other interesting East events left the team just two points out of the East’s eighth playoff spot. While that fact can be a bit misleading since they’re in 11th overall, the New Jersey Devils and Winnipeg Jets are on five-game losing streaks while the New York Rangers face five of their next six games on the road.

Still, you need to take what you can get positivity-wise in a season like this.

If you want a little more, there’s word that Chris Pronger is teaching Luke Schenn some of his trade secrets. That has to be good for something (unless you’re an opponent), right?

  1. ibieiniid - Apr 4, 2013 at 10:58 PM


  2. mclovinhockey - Apr 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    The more injuries they have they better they seem to play.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:04 PM

      Timonen is tough to fill in for though. I’m glad to see Schenn and Couturier (BEAUTY of a pass, or as Voracek would say “What a fu**in’ pass”) steppin’ it up but G and Hartnell were almost invisible for most of the night. I think Hall and Rosehill had good first games too… but it’s gonna be tough for the team to not hit a breaking point with all these replacement players.

  3. broadstreetbeatdown - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Kimmo has been a war horse on the back end with all the injuries on the blue line. Hope it is nothing serious but it looks like Manning will be getting called up.

    • valoisvipers - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:37 PM

      I thought Manning play real well last year when he was called up, wish the kid success and hope that he can stick with the Big Club this time around.

  4. phillyphanatic77 - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Timonen ALWAYS plays through injuries so this probably indicates there will be more bad news tomorrow. Hopefully it was just precautionary but I’m not holding my breath. Hopefully Grossman returns saturday, we definitely need him.

  5. gamechanger87 - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    What ashame, but everyone knew how fragile this weak team is, looks like their done for the season. Oh well, better luck next year brahs

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:30 PM

      Fragile? You mean like the almighty Crosby? Seems like your team doesn’t know how to play hockey without the Golden Boy. We’re missing Grossman, Coburn, Mez, Timonen, Talbot, Rinaldo, Briere, AND I’ll include Pronger, and we’re still winning games. I understand Pens fans are beyond worried about facing a hot Flyers team in the 1st round again so keep talking…

      • steelcity333 - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:40 PM

        Can’t win without Crosby? Are you serious? We’re 40 games OVER .500 without him in his career. And welcome to what the Pens had to deal with with all the injuries 2 years ago. The only difference is we made the playoffs and took Tampa to a 7th game. Can Philly do that? We’ll see. And why would I be worried about a team we beat 3 out of 4 times this year and have outplayed in all 4 games.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:50 PM

        I’m fully aware of the Pens impressive records without both Malkin and Crosby, I was referring to the past two games (since Crosby got hurt) where they got absolutely embarrassed and barely even touched the puck. And regular season means nothing… last season the Pens were unbeatable heading into the playoffs before the Flyers totally threw them off their game. They were overwhelming favorites according to all the experts (sound familiar?). Pens fans can deny all they want that a matchup with Philly in the first round doesn’t matter, but deep down you ALL know it’s the last team you want to see.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:57 PM

        What he’s trying to say is that they are preparing yet again for another first round exit without Captain Cry baby. That same team you aren’t worried about sent your sorry asses golfing last year.

      • steelcity333 - Apr 5, 2013 at 12:06 AM

        Sorry sir but “Captain Crybaby” will be back before the playoffs, lighting up the league yet again. And before you talk all this garbage, your team should at least be in the top 8.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM

        Ah, man…I wish it would get more creative. Philly fans might as well just say “Yeah? Well…CROSBY and LASY YEARS PLAYOFFS”…and Pens fans will say “Yeah? Well….1975!”

        Either way, if they keep winning everyone will get their wish. I’d LOVE to see it. Not going to be an easy road to get in. I can see Winnipeg falling out, but NJ isn’t going to go down easy and the Rangers still have a game in hand.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:36 PM

      Fragile like Crysby’s girly jaw.

      • President Charles Logan - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:56 PM

        flyer fans gettin their hopes up for nuthin , only to be let down all over again…est 1975

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Apr 5, 2013 at 12:05 AM

        Here comes the president of the dumb as$ brigade, chairman of the fanboy legion.

      • flyers22 - Apr 5, 2013 at 12:25 AM

        Dude shut up 95 percent of your fan base is bandwagon your team almost relocated because no one cared about them and they had won back to back cups in the early 90’s the flyers have been waiting for the cup again since 75 and have sold out the building every night since then if it wasn’t for mario acquiring the team basically for nothing and Crosby the team would be in Kansas City so go ahead and talk as much bs as you want but the penguins have won 1 more cup then the flyers and and were not far off from getting back to that point I for one am glad they didn’t move because I love the rivalry and the fact that Pennsylvania has two teams it’s great for the sport and it’s certainly helping spread the game for youth hockey players in PA

      • friedberg7 - Apr 5, 2013 at 6:20 AM

        Flyers22 you should understand Penguins fans then. After all aren’t Phillies fans pretty much the same. And soon enough everyone will be a 76ers fan again too. Whaaaa but Pens were going to move. No they weren’t. Get over the whole bandwagon thing already. At least come up with something more creative .

      • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:29 AM

        friedberg, you’re wrong about the Phils. the Phillies fanbase is one of the more invested in the MLB. the only stretch in their history of low attendance was in the few years after the strike in the 90s…. in which everybody had low attendance.

        can’t speak for the Sixers, not sure of how much they sell.

    • isithockeyseasonyet - Apr 5, 2013 at 12:04 AM

      They’re different in their significance, the pens fan commenting on here is comparing apples to oranges, both teams have had different injury situations

    • jake6881 - Apr 5, 2013 at 12:12 AM

      Yea, real tired and weak. Get bent! Then get a clue!

  6. gamechanger87 - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Calm down, the golden boy with the titanium mouth piece will be representing the entire NHL and hockey world before the next filly ginger is arrested for underage shenanigans.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

      gamechanger knows all about underage shenanigans…. especially with siblings.

  7. steelcity333 - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    And phillyphanatic you know you don’t want to play the Pens in the first round. If you say you do then you are obviously lying to yourself. And two games does not make a season especially coming off of a 15 game winning streak while incorporating new players. Give me a break with that.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 5, 2013 at 12:19 AM

      I absolutely respect the talent that the Pens have. They’re the most talented team in the league but you sir are incorrect. The Pens are the one team I want more than any other. Just looking at the teams in top 8 (and disregarding seeding) I wouldn’t want to play Boston, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, or the Rangers. And the Devils fall into that category if they get back into the top 8. The teams I wouldn’t mind playing (disregarding seeding, of course) would be Pittsburgh, Washington, or the Islanders. I’m not guaranteeing the Flyers make the playoffs or that we would beat Pittsburgh, but the Flyers play some of their best hockey against the Pens. Yes you won the season series but the Flyers look like a completely different team right now. They’re 10X better than they were through the entire season. I can’t explain it but for some reason the injuries have propelled us. Maybe it’s just guys who wouldn’t usually be in the lineup going all out; whatever it is, they’re playing the type of Flyers hockey we’re accustomed to in Philadelphia. I think the Flyers 2010 run and the Kings last year show that regular season records are irrelevant as soon as game one rolls around. The Flyers just have to get in then anything can happen.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM

        i’ve seen a noticeable jolt in Coots’s game since he didn’t get traded. 2 nights in a row he’s been showing signs of his rookie light. not pulling away from hits, following forechecks, passing (holy sh** at the one last night). looking strong. glad we kept him.

    • jake6881 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:10 AM

      I hope we play the Pens in the first rounds! Its the pens that should mind. Even if they beat us it will beat them up for the rest of the playoffs. Win win for flyers fans!

  8. President Charles Logan - Apr 4, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    the flyers arent making the playoffs lol gimme a break they got 3 teams to contend with which are all better then they are

    • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:34 AM

      we know you’re fu**ing stance dude, unless you’re gonna say something new, give it a rest.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:36 AM

        dude horrible. not the first time this week i’ve made a your/you’re mistake. if i wasn’t myself, I would slap me in the face. must stop commenting early in the AM

  9. sjsharks66 - Apr 5, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Chris Pronger is teaching Schenn physics, because thats what he used when he played. Lol

    Bummer on all the injuries. They need to get better before the playoffs, if they make it. Which im thinking they will slip in to the 8th seed. Pens-flyers round two? Oh boy!

  10. 5hole26 - Apr 5, 2013 at 6:02 AM

    hahahahahha overrated timonen is hurt. good for you whiney criminals.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:34 AM

      5hole doesn’t own a TV

  11. nicknyhc - Apr 5, 2013 at 6:28 AM

    Props to the Flyers fan on PHT for knowing the game and having some sense….coming from a NYR fan no less.

    Seriously. Pens fans are retarded.

    • drone501 - Apr 5, 2013 at 7:43 AM

      you, my man , are an asshole.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:11 AM

      He’s right bro – you’re an asshole.

  12. 5hole26 - Apr 5, 2013 at 7:02 AM

    you only think that cus your team is inferior to ours. dream on 2013

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:31 AM

      Pretty sure the Rangers just beat you in a no contest, 6-1.

      • flyboys12 - Apr 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM

        You know its bad when Rangers and Flyers fans are teaming up against Sh*tsburgh

  13. gamechanger87 - Apr 5, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    The fragile fliers arn’t even relevant. The hockey world is about The Franchise and our hybrid leader 87. Nothing else matters.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:47 AM

      Then why comment numerous times on EVERY single Flyers page. Lemme guess, you’re gonna say something like “just to let you Philthy fans know how irrelevant your ginger team is and that they pale in comparison to the Franchise led by it’s gloriously amazing wonderboy captain. Philly is a trash dump, troll, troll, troll.”

      • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:53 AM


    • flyboys12 - Apr 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM

      Wait… your “leader” doesn’t run on gas?!?!

      • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 10:12 AM

        i was trying to figure out what “hybrid leader” meant too. i’m thinking man/woman hybrid.

  14. gamechanger87 - Apr 5, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    Why so mad brahs, can’t handle a lil ginger slap down?

  15. 5hole26 - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    we can lose out and still be in first place. We have the greatest team in league history. be jealous boys you deserve it

    • nicknyhc - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:09 AM

      The guy who didn’t know who Wayne Gretzky was is gonna start talking about hockey history?

      Get lost kid.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM

      you know has a Standings page, correct? if you lose out, you could be out of playoffs… let alone not in first place. were you looking at ‘5hole’s revised standings?’ the one where the Penguins have a million points and everybody else has 0.

      5hole, earlier on this thread: ” The hockey world is about The Franchise and our hybrid leader 87. ” 5hole would rather just not play the games (we all know he doesn’t watch them anyway). i mean sh**, no other team in the league is relevant. just give the Pens a mil points, hand them the cup every year, and let the fans scream like Leo Dicaprio on the front of the Titanic. that’s 5hole’s ideal situation.

  16. sportsfreak13 - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Wow tons of immaturity on this message board. First off I hope Timonen’s injury isn’t real severe and he bounces back quick. Secondly pens fans need to stop trolling flyer articles and maybe hopefully the return the favor with sid/pens related article (dreaming I know). As far as the pens last two games for the pens I am not worried at all. Back to back games without Sid, martin, and letang with 3 new guys and no practices. Yea sound the alarm (sarcasm). Anyone who says they aren’t afraid of playing us in the playoffs because of what happened in our recent playoffs history is a joke, and is just trying to make themselves feel better. If everything goes like last years playoffs why not just hand LA the cup again? 4 weeks till we can send the “one round and done” haters to bed. Please end this 1975 vs bandwagon fans debate and focus on the game. Its a lot more fun trust me.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM

      it’s no use. some of the old trolls have calmed it a bit (withdrawal, sjsharks, etc.)… but new trolls have shown up (5hole, gamechanger, honestly I think those 2 are worse than withdrawal ever was). it’s an endless cycle… we have cyclical trolls as well.

      • sportsfreak13 - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:47 AM

        I agree. I’m embarrassed they call themselves pens fans. We aren’t all as dumb and immature as them (5hole, and gamechanger) I promise.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:08 AM

      I’m glad there are Pens fans like you bc ahole and gamechanger87 (probably the same troll) are giving the city of Pittsburgh a terrible name. They whine all the time about “Philthy” fans while they just embarrass themselves with juvenile insults. But I didn’t mean to say I wouldn’t be worried about a matchup with the Pens. They’re an unbelievably talented team, but it’s always a good matchup. The Flyers raise their game when they play Pittsburgh, so that’s why it would be a more favorable matchup then say the Rangers (disregarding seeds obviously) or the Devils. I have no misconceptions that we would win the series, but it would be such a heated affair that the Flyers would atleast slow the Pens. The Flyers were completely drained when they got to the series against Jersey and maybe they could do the same to the Pens. Is it worth giving up a high pick just to slow the Pens and decrease their Cup chances? Idk but it could be a silver lining IF the Flyers get the 8th seed and then lose.

    • sportsfreak13 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:51 AM

      I agree phillyphanatic. I for one am hoping you guys make it in this year because the games would be incredible. Those trolls bring out the worst in me as well, and I root for the same team as them, supposedly. Hopefully the pens take care of the rangers tonight and start paving the path for pens vs flyers round 1!

  17. gamechanger87 - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    ibienerd, get ur trolls straight brah, u kno those words of wisdom came from me. Genious 5hole26 gamechanger and all Pens fans here kno that we have the most dominating team in the world. PGH IS CUPSTRONG

    • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 9:45 AM

      i LOVE when people spell genius wrong.

    • flyboys12 - Apr 5, 2013 at 10:16 AM

      First off, you are trolling on a Flyers article that has absolutely no relevance to the Pens. Secondly, “gamechanger”, if you are going to troll, do it intelligently. You ruin any chance of your post sounding coherent or having any relevance to the topic. You sound/look like an idiot…brah…Pitt is no where near a beach. Believe me I know I went to Univ of Pitt; unless you consider swimming in the Mon a beach.

  18. 5hole26 - Apr 5, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    gamechanger and myself are the number 1 and 2 fans of them franchise. you peasants need to stop talking that way about us. you should feel privileged that we come on here and grace you with our thickness and thoroughbred holy thighs of sid. your welcome pht

    • mclovinhockey - Apr 5, 2013 at 10:59 AM

      OH GOD. I just noticed something. 5hole and gamechanger, 2 accounts who seem to be on at the same time, both make idiotic, asinine, arrogant, ignorant, sometimes even racists comments.

      If you have been on this site as long as me you would know 5hole and gamechanger is the same piece of trash from last year known as crosberries.

      He also had several accounts and was making people realize just how inhuman some people can be.

      I am glad to figure out there is actually only one person as uncivilized as yourself because it makes me feel if you do not reproduce, there is hope for the future.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 12:43 PM

        CROSBERRIES! i was trying to think of that name. yep, they both fit the mold.

  19. flyboys12 - Apr 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    of them franchise? Maybe hop in your pickemup truck and drive to down der parkway to to 79 so yinz can go to watch dem Penz practice?

  20. 5hole26 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    sorry sonny, but im not crosberries nor am i gamechanger. pittsburghs full of passionate pens fans so dont think there is only 1 brah. we are the SCA and we are here to stay. STUMPY 2013

  21. flyboys12 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    what in the hell did you just say?

  22. phillyphannn83 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    5hole26 April 5, 2013, 10:37 AM EDT

    gamechanger and myself are the number 1 and 2 fans of them franchise. you peasants need to stop talking that way about us. you should feel privileged that we come on here and grace you with our thickness and thoroughbred holy thighs of sid. your welcome pht
    5hole26 just revealed his true identity. I was wondering where franchisetheighs went. Now we know, you just made another screenname. Considering that was your m.o. way back when, I’m confident that you are also gamechanger. I’d be embarrassed if I was a Pens fan as you make the rest of your fan base look like immature, unintelligent trolls.

    In other news, I must have missed the moment where sportsfreak13 stopped being a troll and became an intelligent, unbiased Pens fan.

  23. gamechanger87 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Its not our fault that pro crosby talk needs to be sprinkled with a little hybrid spice. Sid is the lord of all gamechangers and the Cup is destined to be named after him. 1975 brahs, go worship your rocky statue via your sewer filled streets

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 5, 2013 at 1:15 PM

      Our “sewer filled streets”? Is that supposed to be an insult? Because I’m pretty sure most city streets are equipped with sewer systems. Gamechanger87 or I mean ahole or crosberries or thefranchise or whatever you’ll call yourself tomorrow, for as much trolling as you do you’d think you’d be a little better at it. Most people are just trying to talk hockey here, maybe you should try that instead of attempting to be “clever” all the time. Even other Pens fans can’t stand you.

      • mclovinhockey - Apr 5, 2013 at 2:03 PM


        that was hilarious, “sewer filled streets”, wow. I almost peed myself from that

  24. President Charles Logan - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    ok fine, the flyers are playing some good hockey lately , but lets be realistic here this team isnt built for a long run into spring …. dont get the hopes up.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

      if they keep up this level of play when they get some big names back… yes they are built for a run.

  25. gamechanger87 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Philthtlyfan, im sure 5hole thanks u for the repost. Phunny how u like playing sherlock holmes, try not to get ur get ur orange thong in a phrazzled bunch brah, u will never be cupstrong.

  26. flyboys12 - Apr 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Seriously? Your only argument is 1975? How about 2009? Once you win the cup…the next day it means nothing. Congratulations, you won 4 years ago. Mean’s nothing now. Different team, rules, and NHL as a whole. The King’s cup run last year isn’t relevant this year. If you are a true fan of the game, not just of a team you will realize that anything can happen. Get over yourselves. It’s getting a little ridiculous reading all this filth that is spewed. How about some intelligent hockey talk.

    Sure Cooke cleaned up his game. So did Rinaldo. Coots has owned Malkin, Neal can score goals better than Stamkos when he wants to. Crosby is a stud regardless of his attitude on the ice. Giroux can be phenomenal, Simmonds plays like a wrecking ball, and when Bryz is on, he’s on. But, at the end of the season, it all means nothing. The NHL has an 82 game pre-season. If you actually know the game you would realize this. Like I said, anything is possible.

    • President Charles Logan - Apr 5, 2013 at 4:23 PM

      no , anything is not possible… the reality is that the philadelphia flyers will not win the stanley cup anytime soon with that core of players they have. and that joke of a goalie they have .

  27. franchisethighs - Apr 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Hey filthy guess who I am lulz

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