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Rumor: Isles and Blackhawks talking big deal?

Mar 31, 2013, 10:17 AM EDT

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With the trade deadline quickly approaching on Wednesday, the rumor mill is kicking into gear and there are rumblings coming from Chicago.

Tim Sassone of The Daily Herald out of Chicago reports the Blackhawks and Islanders are discussing what would be a big deal. The Hawks have taken an interest in both Frans Nielsen to give them help at center and team captain Mark Streit to boost the blue line. He says the Islanders have an interest in a pair of Chicago prospects in forward Jeremy Morin and defenseman Dylan Olsen.

Rumors being what they are, take it with the appropriate grain of salt but keep in mind this with the Islanders: They’ve been working on trying to get Streit signed to an extension and Nielsen is perhaps their best two-way center. The Islanders are also in a playoff hunt of their own sitting tied for eighth in the Eastern Conference. Upsetting what they’ve got going for them doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense.

The key here seems to be Chicago looking for help on the blue line. Sassone says they’re nervous about Johnny Oduya‘s play of late as their No. 4 defenseman. Streit would be a marked upgrade there.

Update (12:40 p.m. ET): Arthur Staple of New York Newsday helps clear up some of the speculation.

  1. multiplemiggs - Mar 31, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    I’ll say it again; you never know with Garth Snow! As for the trade, I see it as unlikely but this guy is full of surprises.

  2. multiplemiggs - Mar 31, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    I wish we could go for a guy like Clowe, and I know I have mentioned trading Nielsen before but to get a top six forward back in return. Getting rid of Nielsen for anything less would be kind of a surrender.

  3. esracerx46 - Mar 31, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Isles can have Olsen. No way in hell id give up Morin. One or both of Bickell and Stalberg are gone in free agency and he’d fit right in. Wouldnt mind having Nielsen. But, Streit isnt the type of D-man Id like to see the Hawks bring in. Although this rumor could have just been thrown out by the Hawks to light a fire under Oduya.

  4. trbowman - Mar 31, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    This would be a typical move of a losing franchise. Come on Islanders.

  5. trick9 - Mar 31, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Sounds like a terrible deal for Islanders if it stays that way.. Streit alone should bring 1st rounder and one of those prospects and adding in Nielsen who is excellent two-way center with small cap hit?

    • misterchainbluelightning - Mar 31, 2013 at 11:56 AM

      Ok, I need to know why 35 year old solid yet unspectacular Mark Streit warrants 1st round picks and a prospect. What you’re saying is Streit is worth more than Iggy.


      • trick9 - Mar 31, 2013 at 12:05 PM

        Iggy brought Calgary 2 prospects and 1st rounder, so please share how that is less than 1st rounder and 1 prospect?

        It’s because rentals aren’t cheap. Gaustad’s value year ago was 1st rounder, and Sharks got 2 2nd rounders for Murray. Streit is much better player than either of those and hes captain of the Isles, they won’t move him for cheap when they are in the playoff hunt.

      • atteckus - Mar 31, 2013 at 2:54 PM

        Streit is not a much better player than Doug Murray. They are entirely different types of players. Streit is a puck mover, join the rush D man and PP QB. Doug Murray is a stay-at-home defenseman. He averages 20+ minutes a game, generally maintains a + in the +/- column, and uses his size to terrify and dominate wingers. He’s not going to amass scoring stats, like Streit will. Murray has the equivalent of 8 NHL playoffs series in experience. Nevertheless, teams need both types of guys. Their value, absent unique demand, is about equal. Both are worth a prospect and a second rounder, or two second rounders.

    • misterchainbluelightning - Mar 31, 2013 at 12:03 PM

      Mark Streit who’s going to be a UFA in a couple months, 36 a few more months after that, is worth a 1st PLUS a prospect…? My mind is still boggling at the lengths homerism can take a person

      • trick9 - Mar 31, 2013 at 12:09 PM

        Over 45 points in each of the last 4 seasons for a d-man and you question why hes worth 1st rounder and a prospect in a trade deadline market where Douglas Murray brings back 2 2nd rounders?

        It’s obvious that teams need to overpay if they want to acquire from a team that is still in the playoff hunt.

  6. mclovinhockey - Mar 31, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Leopold just went for a 2nd and a 5th….. While strait is not worth more than iginla, D is worth more than O right now. I don’t agree at all about strait being worth a first and a prospect, but I could see him being valued that high just due to the market on D and the fact the hawks pick would be like 25th or higher.

    Hell I heard a rumour out of LA that they want Timonen for 2 decent prospects or a top prospect. Granted Kimmo is not a rental, and an all star defender but the rumours I heard were a bit of an overpay.

    • misterchainbluelightning - Mar 31, 2013 at 12:21 PM

      Cool story, 2nd and a 5th isn’t anywhere near a 1st plus a team best prospect

      And we are talking about a rental so why am I reading so many comments about apples when were talking about oranges I’ll never know.

      Oh wait I know, changing apples to oranges supports the weak argument that, soon to be UFA Mark Streit is worth a 1st PLUS (again key part to my argument) the Hawks best prospect

  7. misterchainbluelightning - Mar 31, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    1 – Calgary didn’t not receive 2 prospects, they received two AHL roster spots whole maybe one day will get a chance on the 4th line of an NHL club.

    2 – Most of the hockey world is still lol’ing over the idea that the Preds traded a first for Gausted, so spare me your belief that since the Preds are so stupid that the rest of the league should be as well.

    3 – One of the last picks in the 2nd round this year, and one of the last picks in the 2nd round next year is NEVER going to fetch you a late 1st in this years draft. Ever. So why are you trying to equate the two?

    4 – You’re not just saying a 1st, you’re saying a 1st PLUS one of the Hawks best prospects.

    5 – The fact that he’s Capitan of the Isles is worth how much? Near nothing

    • trick9 - Mar 31, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      1 – They did receive 2 prospects, and even if they aren’t your beloved Hawks prospects they still are.

      2 – Gaustad gathered alot of interest last year, because Buffalo were one of the only teams willing to sell at all. If Preds wouldn’t have got him someone else would.

      3 – Im not trying to equate the 2 you fool, im just saying when player like Murray who is mistake-prone and brings absolutely no offence while being decent defensively is worth 2 2nd rounders, then Streit who is Bobby Orr offensively compared to Murray while also being decent defensively is definitely worth that much because once again, there aren’t many good d-men’s in the market during the season.

      4 – Sorry to burst your bubble but Dylan Olsen is not really considered a top-prospect around the league. Morin is more promising but i did say ”one of them”, not saying that it needed to be him.

      5 – Depends to who? For Chicago propably nothing but if you actually followed hockey abit you’d knew Islanders are currently sitting 8th in the East, they won’t give up their captain for nothing.

  8. multiplemiggs - Mar 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Iggy is a selfish tool who chose his destination leaving his team with a bag of pucks instead of the 1st and two good prospects the Bs had to offer. His situation is NOTHING even close to being compared with Streit’s so stop comparing the two.

    • 950003cups - Mar 31, 2013 at 3:13 PM

      I felt the same way about Iginla. He forced his team to take a lesser deal to go to a team who is just as capable of making cup run as the other. That was a selfish deal on the outside. What we don’t know is if Iginla felt betrayed by the Flames in the past. Maybe took less money on a contract to free up cap space for players that they never signed? Who knows?

  9. pone27 - Mar 31, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Being a Hawks fan living on LI, I get such the pleasure to watch the isles often….

    Streit can easily play till hes 40. He clearly has a ton left in the tank. While I love Oduya, Streit is a legit top 4 D possibly a top 2.

    Nielsen would be a great scoop for the Hawks up the middle. Getting both of those guys would really help the Hawks tremendously.

    As said above though, I dont like the idea of moving Morin. Kid is going to be a stud for sure. If the Hawks move Morin, the player in return has to be in his prime and a legit top 6 F.

  10. bcisleman - Mar 31, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    As Stape said, there is no way Isles trade Nielsen at this juncture. He isn’t just their best two way center. After JT, he’s their best center period and there’s not a close second. Plus he is one of the best PK specialists and THE best SO specialist in the NHL. In a few years when Strome, Nelson and Cizikas and others mature, maybe. His walk year is 2015-16. By then, they should be well along. Certainly he’ll stay on the Island another 1-2 seasons at least. Substance of his being mentioned may be that the Hawks inquired about him as did, I’m sure, the Canucks.

    Streiter is another matter. Isles would like to re-sign him. He has scored more points than any other defenseman in an Islander uni after Denis. Word to the wise: immediately in the wake of Visnovsky’s signing a Chicago beat writer tweeted that Bowman had been working “hard” on a deal for him. Garth no doubt gave Vis a choice as he is likely giving Streiter. We know what Vis chose and Streiter has expressed a clear preference for extending.

    Can’t see the Isles being interested in Olsen. He’s probably what Chicago offered. Isles have a ton of better D prospects. Morin would be another matter as the Isles could use another wing prospect. Isles’ most glaring need is for a viable backup goalie and unless the Hawks are moving Emery–which I can’t see–they don’t have one to give.

    • bcisleman - Mar 31, 2013 at 1:46 PM

      BTW, Isles are a notoriously shutmouthed team and have been signalling they would do nothing this deadline. They likely aren’t thrilled with Chicago airing this.

      • trick9 - Mar 31, 2013 at 1:53 PM

        Exactly, Chicago fans are being delusional here.

      • 950003cups - Mar 31, 2013 at 3:15 PM

        Isles are also notoriously know for sending away great players who go on to be stars

      • bcisleman - Mar 31, 2013 at 4:26 PM

        Under Milbury, yes. Under Snow? No, not so much. In fact, google Blake, Jason.

      • comeonnowguys - Mar 31, 2013 at 8:09 PM

        Trick, Bowman Jr. doesn’t exactly run a seive of an organization. The writer was probably just pleased to have at least a rumor.

        And how quick do they turn on Oduya, through the streak, all we heard about was how they only have lost 2 regulation games since he arrived at last year’s deadline, and how Chicago basically had two starting-worthy lines on D.

        I’d still like for them to go after Roy, but then again, maybe there’s a reason I’m typing this literally from my basement :) and not being paid to run a team.

  11. gettingpwned - Mar 31, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Frans is too small & doesn’t score enough to be a legit #2 C. Streit hasn’t been the same after all his injuries. That said, Isles scoring is minimal outside of JT’s line. And the D has even less talent. They’re in a good spot now with the schedule & rangers & devils woes. I don’t see them moving these 2 guys.

  12. alswingman - Mar 31, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Islanders have no chance even if they make the playoffs. They know that all too well so may as well keep building for the “future.”

    • bcisleman - Mar 31, 2013 at 5:05 PM

      You obviously are an Islander hater who knows nothing about the team. Go on hating. Its a free country. If Garth were focused on building, he would have traded Visnovsky instead of extending him. Isles have the pieces in place already. Not all of them are NHL-ready and yet the team is still challenging for a playoff spot. In a few years, haters like you will have nothing to talk about.

  13. multiplemiggs - Mar 31, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    bcisleman I was just joking around the other day but how come you are always glorifying Nielsen? He has two even strength goals all season, I love his PK yes dont get me wrong but dont you think we need more out of a second line center?

    • bcisleman - Mar 31, 2013 at 5:08 PM

      Not glorifying him. Simply stating facts. He is easily the 2nd best center on the team. If Strome and Nelson were NHL ready, Nielsen would make an attractive trading chip–although he would still have immense value for his special teams and SO ability. Right now, Isles simply cannot consider trading him. In 1-2 years, maybe.

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