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Report: Ryan Miller comes up in Sabres, Lightning conversation

Mar 27, 2013, 9:12 PM EDT

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A couple weeks ago, rumors circulated that Ryan Miller‘s “days are numbered” with the Buffalo Sabres, although that could have meant the summer or even next season. There’s a slight chance that number might be even lower.

Rogers Sportsnet’s Daren Millard reports that Miller’s name is “in play” amid the Sabres’ talks with the Tampa Bay Lightning.

That would be surprising for a reason that goes beyond Miller’s face-of-the-franchise status with Buffalo: the Lightning play in the same division (and will in realignment, too).

Then again, if you’re merely swinging for the fences return-wise, the Bolts might be the best place to look. Goaltending and defense have been a huge headache for Tampa Bay, so Miller could potentially fill that need in a big way.

Naturally, with any trade rumor, it’s crucial to take it with a grain of salt. Even rumored discussions that actually exist don’t always come to fruition.

Still, if you’re looking for another big chip to be moved, perhaps the 32-year-old star could be in the mix.

  1. thedavesiknowiknow - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    So Tampa might get “the best goalie in the world”? The least he could have done was outplay Garon last night. Not that the rest of the team showed up.

    • rochockey11 - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:29 PM

      He played good last night and kept it down to a 2-1 game. Was he supposed to stop the cross ice one timer on the 5v3 or was he supposed to stop the shot from stamkos who was all alone in the slot? If you switched Garon and Miller last night that would have easily been a 4-0 game, at best. Miller is not the problem, it is the rest of the team.

      • mikeward1283 - Mar 28, 2013 at 7:32 AM

        Its like these idiots expect the goalies to score goals as well. I’m a Flyers fan and were basically in the same boat all tho I’m not completely taking Bryz side as he does let in softies and he could use some improvement in penalty shot/shootouts but there are games that he plays and he has a stellar performance and the rest of the team doesn’t even show up.

    • travishenryskid - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM

      You mean in the game that the Sabres had 14 shots on goal? Kind of hard to outplay the other goalie when your team is a no show.

  2. nunan - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    Makes sense. The core of TB is mostly ‘older’. If TB wants to try and do anything before it’s too late, sign a real goaltender and make a go of it.

    • juniorbarnes - Mar 29, 2013 at 10:12 AM

      The core of TB is “older”? The core is Stamkos (23), Hedman (22) and Connacher (23) and hopefully in the near future Lindback (24). we won’t even mention all of the other AHL call ups that Yzerman will keep in the NHL for the foreseeable future. So unless you’re 8, their core is very young.

      Now if you still refer to St. Louis and Lecavalier as the core (they were the core in 2004 )yeah, they are both on the backside of their careers.

      Miller to Tampa would have been awesome 3 or 4 years ago, but I guess he’s still one of the top 10-15 goalies and has a few years left. He looked great Wednesday night when his team didn’t leave him hanging. He’d help Tampa NOW on their microscopic odds of rallying to the playoffs this year and maybe for another year or two, but they need to look LONG TERM in net. Miller will do what Rollie did for them 2 years ago and thats it.

      But it would be nice to have someone like him in net, if we’re not giving up too much…..

  3. canucks30 - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Roberto Luongo>Ryan Miller

    • valoisvipers - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:39 PM

      You couldn’t get me to drink enough of the Canuck koolade to believe that.

      • canucks30 - Mar 28, 2013 at 1:11 AM


        Roberto Luongo: Olympic Gold Medal
        Ryan Miller: Olympic Silver Medal

        Roberto Luongo: 2 IIHF World Championship Gold Medals, 1997 World Junior Championship Silver Medal,
        2004 World Cuo of Hockey Winner, 2 Memorial Cup Appearances.
        Ryan Miller: 2001 Hobey Baker Award Winner, 2001 and 2002 CCHA Player of the Year

        Roberto Luongo: 2011 lost in Game 7 of Stanley Cup Finals.
        Ryan Miller: 2006 lost in Game 7 of Eastern Conference Finals

        Roberto Luongo: 62 Career Shutouts
        Ryan Miller: 28 Career Shutouts

        Roberto Luongo: 346 Career Wins
        Ryan Miller: 263 Career Wins

        Roberto Luongo: 3 Time Vezina Trophy Finalist (2004, 2007, 2011)
        Ryan Miller: 1 Time Vezina Trophy Finalist and Winner (2010)

        Roberto Luongo: 32 Career Playoff Wins, 5 Career Playoff Shutouts, Career .916 Playoff Save Percentage..
        Ryan Miller: 25 Career Playoff Wins, 3 Career Playoff Shutouts, .917 Career Playoff Save Percentage.

        Roberto Luongo: .919 Career Regular Season Save Percentage (Greatest in NHL History)
        Ryan Miller: .915 Career Regular Season Save Percentage

        Roberto Luongo: 33 Years Old (5.33M Cap Hit)
        Ryan Miller: 32 Years Old (6.25M Cap Hit)


      • canucks30 - Mar 28, 2013 at 1:27 AM

        Other FACTS:

        Roberto Luongo: 2 Time Lester B. Pearson/Ted Lindsay Award (NHLPA NHL MVP) Finalist (2004,2007)
        1 Time Hart Trophy Finalist (2007). 2011 William M. Jennings Trophy Winner (Lowest GAA in NHL). 2006-07 named to NHL 2nd All-Star Team. 4 selections to NHL All-Star Game.

        Ryan Miller: Named to 2010 NHL 1st All-Star Team. 1 selection to NHL All-Star game.

        If Roberto Luongo maintains his regular season success for 5-7 more seasons he will finish amongst the all-time NHL leaders in Wins, Shutouts, and Games Played an do so with a better save percentage than any other goaltender save for Dominik Hasek.

        In other words, he is very likely headed to the Hockey Hall of Fame.

      • canucks30 - Mar 28, 2013 at 1:29 AM

        I’m not discrediting Ryan Miller who is a fantastic goaltender in his own right but Roberto Luongo has had the better career and is the better goaltender.

    • trbowman - Mar 27, 2013 at 10:44 PM

      Luongo is underrated, in all honesty – but nah.

    • boucherpoker - Mar 28, 2013 at 2:33 PM

      For all the time you wasted in getting Luongo’s stats, he is NOT the all time save percentage leader in history. Just off the top of my head, Hasek finished with a .922

      The first thing you reference was the olympic Gold medal? Miller was CLEARLY the best player in that tournament, let alone best goaltender. Luongo was so shaky in that final game, giving up huge rebounds, especially the game tying goal late in the 3rd. Team Canada had the Americans completely outmatched talent wise. During that tournament, if you would have put Luongo in the USA net, they would have never seen the finals.

      Luongo’s one sniff at a cup final and he was horrible. Absolutely horrible in the 2011 finals. Miller best was an eastern conference final, which he lost in game 7…with the sabres having 4 of their top defensemen…OUT. Miller helped carry them to that point…and if you know anything about hockey and watched that season…if Jay Mckee doesnt wake up the morning of that game 7 with a staph infection…the Sabres would have won that game and than handled Edmonton in the finals.

      To be quite honest…if you TRULY look at the stats, your argument is not that good. It’s actually horrible Youre quick to mention that Luongo has 346 wins to miller’s 263…but you fail to mention that luongo has played 260 more regular season games than miller. Im gonna go out on a limb and say that miller just might be able to muster a .500 winning percentage in those 260 games, which would give him 130 more wins. 50 more wins in the same amount of games played as luongo. Not to mention that Luongo has played on one of the most talented teams in the NHL for the last 7 seasons, while Miller has been surrounded with mediocrity for most of that time. Miller has 103 more wins in his career than losses. luongo has only 59 more wins than losses. Ah, Ah…before you mention the Florida days…Miller has played for the sabres…his ENTIRE career and still put up a better win percentage.

      The more I type…the more its obvious your argument is futile. Luongo has had a history of NOT coming up big in key moments. Im surprised you even mentioned the fact that Miller has a BETTER playoff save percentage than luongo. If you strip down the junior stats that you mentioned (seriously…like anyone cares about Junior stats when they compare players NHL careers??) You would be extremely hard pressed to say luongo was better. They both do NOT have a cup. Miller has a Vezina (on an EXTREMELY average team that year), luongo does not. luongo has a gold medal…but if you try to say that Luongo was better in those Olympics…youre simply an idiot). The goals against is almost even (2.52/2.59). And I want to clue you in on something…save percentage is one of the most overrated stats in all of sports. Someone flicks a puck at the net while making a player change or dump in and hits the goalie in the chest…guess what…its a save. Why hockey has not created a save percentage statistic based on quality shots, is beyond me. or maybe they have…you just failed to mention since Luongo might reek in that category. You hang your hat on luongo’s .919 SVP to miller’s .915. For what reason?? Luongo is leaps and bounds better because he gives up a whopping “four tenths of a goal” less, every 100 shots than miller?? Are you starting to see how overblown save percentage is??

      Luongo is good…Miller is good. And before your shallow “Luongo>Miller” statement, which had nothing to do with anything…i would have thought Luongo was better. than i actually looked at the numbers and the careers…which now im thinking, quite possibly…Miller>Luongo…if you really factor in everything, including the teams they play on.

    • juniorbarnes - Mar 29, 2013 at 10:15 AM

      Someone has a man crush…… but yeah. Luongo is twice the keeper as Miller, even after his fall from grace the past year or two.

  4. m3dman3 - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Hopefully! Get Miller out of Buffalo, he’s terrible and making 6.5 mil, let someone else have the misery.

    • westinpat - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:58 PM

      He’s terrible? What’s your NHL stats again?

      Hard to win games when you are left alone to make every save. His teammates have not played good in front of him in a long time.

  5. whatthepuck2012 - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Lightning do NOT play in the same division as Buffalo. Maybe in realignment, but not now.

  6. bensawesomeness - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    He just looks like a broken man – he needs a new start

  7. mathieug79 - Mar 27, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Would certainly help the Lightning in many ways!, I think this is the kind of Deals that make Tampa bay a better team, for the rest of the season and next season! wonder who would be traded the other way?

  8. thedavesiknowiknow - Mar 27, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    He was okay. Not great. Not terrible. It was about as boring of a game from both sides as it could have been. It wS an opportunity to make a Mattheu Garon crack, and I took it. God I hope Buffalo isn’t trying to pull the “feel good trade” here. I won’t say who I’m thinking.

  9. buffaloboy11 - Mar 28, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Miller For Stamkos? Yeah, I’d Take That.

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