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Discuss: Penguins squeeze by Flyers, extend streak to 12 games

Mar 24, 2013, 10:09 PM EST

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After ending the Pittsburgh Penguins’ 12-game winning streak in 2010-11 and an 11-gamer in 2011-12, the Philadelphia Flyers weren’t able to spoil their in-state rivals for a third straight year. The Penguins squeaked by via a 2-1 OT win that really picked up toward the end on Sunday.

Let’s get to some talking points.

  • How do you feel about Braydon Coburn‘s hit from behind on Pascal Dupuis during the closing moments of regulation? Isn’t suspension-worthy?
  • To Dupuis’ credit, he quickly returned to action and was on the ice for Tyler Kennedy‘s overtime winner. We’ll see if he’s injured soon enough.
  • Ilya Bryzgalov was excellent despite the defeat. Should Flyers fans be happy with their likely goalie of the present and future?
  • Sidney Crosby and Claude Giroux scored the two regulation goals. Where does their rivalry rank in your mind? Can you imagine them coexisting for Team Canada in the future?
  • Pittsburgh now has this season’s longest winning streak. How does it compare to the Chicago Blackhawks’ historic season-opening point streak?
  • Where would you place Brenden Morrow in that red-hot Penguins lineup?
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  1. DonkeyStick - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    Get ready for all the 3rd grade Flyers vs Penguins tough guy typing over the internet!

    • trbowman - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM

      Nothing worse. Seems like 90% of the commenters here are either Pens/Flyers fans too, and it’s the same inane bickering all the time.

      • upyoursnfu - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:24 PM

        If you don’t like it then you girls go read other articles. I am sure there is some good WNBA articles out there somewhere….by the way this IS an article about the Pens/Flyers game, incase you didn’t know.

      • trbowman - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM

        “If you don’t like it then you girls go read other articles. I am sure there is some good WNBA articles out there somewhere”

        Thanks for proving my point.

        True – I could simply not click on these articles, but as of late the bickering has been seeping into articles that have zero relation to either one of these teams.

      • upyoursnfu - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:33 PM

        “90% of the commenters here are Pens/Flyers fans”….

        I would expect there to be a lot of Penguins and Flyer fans commenting on this game. Thanks for proving my point that this IS an article about the Pens and Flyers

      • ironman721 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:10 PM

        It’s a Pens/Flyers article yet you guys found your way in here to criticize Pens/Flyers fans. The other 10% that are not Pens/flyers fans can leave and go comment on their own teams at any time. Pens/flyers fans won’t miss you, I promise you that.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:41 PM

      Great win by the refs. Hooking on Timmo my As$$$$$.

      • pens5829 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM

        Did you miss the boarding on Cobourn at the end of the game? The refs did. Justice.

      • ironman721 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:03 PM

        😿

      • miketoasty - Mar 25, 2013 at 8:54 AM

        I don’t think you understand the rules of hockey if you don’t believe that was a hooking.

      • jpelle82 - Mar 25, 2013 at 10:43 AM

        pretty clear cut hooking, thought he was gonna get a penalty shot…glad he didnt though…5 on 3 worked out just fine

      • hockeywithdrawal - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM

        Great TIE by the refs. That call on Martin was just as dumb as the call on Timonen. Both teams took advantage on the power play. I’d say they were a non-factor. And I’d say that even if the Pens lost.

      • jpelle82 - Mar 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM

        the fedotenko mystery elbow was a pretty bad call but you cant deny the slash or hook

  2. crashtheboards55 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Coburn should have been ejected. That was a terrible hit. Rinaldo’s on Kunitz wasn’t too far behind either. I don’t see how the ref’s missed the call on coburn. I don’t think conurn is a dirty player at all. He got caught in a bad spot. But that was a very dangerous hit. It that is matt cooke or rinaldo they would have been ejected no questions asked. I know they want the players to to determine the outcome but that was awful.

    • crashtheboards55 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:15 PM

      Damn it looks like inwas typing with oven mitts on.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 25, 2013 at 6:29 AM

        still does

  3. capsfan19 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Not as epic as the crosby ovi one was. Giroux isnt a powerhouse player like crosby. (In my opinion)

    • hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:24 PM

      Well giroux never did roids like ovi maybe that would help

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM

        Yeah ovi’s mom is bigger than most players fathers !

  4. bobhpine - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Pens current win streak: 12

    Flyers win total for 2013: 13

    Keep talking losers. Great atmosphere at Consol tonight. Morrow will help. Here we go.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM

      You know and I know the last team the Penquin fans want to see in the playoffs is the flyers ! As a flyers fan the penquins are the only team in the conference I think they could beat in a playoff series !

      • miketoasty - Mar 25, 2013 at 8:57 AM

        At the beginning of the season I would 100% agree with you but after winning the season series 3 – 1, getting a home win in the process, and basically watching the Flyers become one of the worst teams in the east, I really couldn’t care less at this point. You could see after the game how demoralized the Flyers looked, I would be surprised if they made the playoffs and would definitely not mind playing them in the first round.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

        Good cause your gonna get them !

    • jimw81 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM

      pens should be asking themselves does morrow have anything left in the tank to play in pens system?

      • miketoasty - Mar 25, 2013 at 8:58 AM

        There were at least 3 different reports coming from different people saying that Morrow needed a change of scenery and that he has a ton of drive to get his first cup.

    • parkway4 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:26 PM

      Hahaa yes great atmosphere for an arena packed with the biggest fair weather fans in the NHL.

      • seabass231 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:29 PM

        The part you can’t see is that the die-hard fans can’t afford to be in that arena. Easy $300-400 per game for two people to attend…Those who are in attendance are sitting in corporate-purchased seats…can’t make an ass of yourself when you’re sitting with a customer (Or Vendor).

      • hockeywithdrawal - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM

        That was another sell-out crowd – like the millionth in a row. How’s come whenever the Flyers lose, you guys always say the same things?

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM

      You’re the only one talking dude. Once again humility isn’t in Bobhpines vocabulary. It was a great game. Both teams played well. The Flyers aren’t out of it yet, and you know your fellow Pens fans wouldn’t want to see a 1 v. 8 Pens-Flyers matchup. We’re the one team that can really slow the Pens attack.

      • bobhpine - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:29 PM

        It’s immaterial dude.

        Check the standings. You won’t even make the playoffs.

        Which will be embarrassing.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:35 PM

        I have checked the standings and they’re not out of it. Even with as bad as they’ve played all season and with a week off they haven’t lost any ground. It’s not like the teams in front of them are tearing it up. They control their own destiny on this 5-game homestand, where they’ve been a much better team. If they play like they did tonight then they could easily go on a run. They haven’t taken care of business all season but who knows. Do you have a crystal ball? It’s a small chance but it’s not over.

      • djamesbart - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:46 PM

        Keep dreaming ladies:

        7% chance the Flyers make the playoffs:

        http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

        There are only 4 teams in the league with worse odds. And one has been eliminated.

      • bobhpine - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

        54 points is the projected line for the 8 seed. Philly has 28 points with 17 games left. They need 26 points out of 17 remaining games, which would require 13 wins.

        Hey what do you know, it’s almost April and the Flyers have…13 wins. 31 games into the 48 game season and you are barely half way to the 8 seed.

        Worry about holding off the Tampa Bay Lightning for 14th place dude,

      • ml3939 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:55 PM

        Bobhpiningforattention has been embarrassed by his team 17 times. Bob has had many post seasons to catch up on his gardening and dressing his poodles.

      • tatdue - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:17 PM

        I’m no Flyers fan but all you guys saying that they’re out, talking about projections and percentages and crap should be lookin’ at it in another way…..they are only 5 points (2 and a half games) out with 17 games to go! If you guys think that’s unattainable you’re crazy….The Flyers fate is in their own hands….

    • ml3939 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM

      30 times the Flyer have finished with more points than the Pens, 11 times the Pens have finished with more points than the Flyers. We are not as good at this losing thing as an experienced loser like you. Bobhpiningforattention is back.

      • bobhpine - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:04 PM

        Haha. 1975 dude.

        Nineteen, seventy….five.

        Long time ago

      • djamesbart - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:11 PM

        The top movie in 1975 was Jaws.
        Holy **** that was a long time ago.
        I bet most of these ladies have never seen the Flyers win anything in their entire lifetime.

      • bobhpine - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:26 PM

        I’ve never seen the flyers win a cup…because I’m not old.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

      Piney Bob prays every night that the Flyers don’t make the playoffs. Funny thing is that even after a week off and losing a point yesterday they are still in the hunt. Both teams played a good hard game last night. Goalies were on point and both captains stepped up. 1st star of the night goes to the officiating team. 5 on 3 really??? Why can’t these clowns just let the players decide the game.

  5. President Charles Logan - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Bryz the goalie of the future? , the guy’s gone with the amnesty buyout this summer no matter how “good” he played the rest of the way this year .

    • killerpgh - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:39 PM

      I know Snider has money. But paying Brzy 23 million to not play for your team is a lot to ask for even the richest owner. And then you have to factor in the pay of a replacement starting goaltender on top of that. I would be surprised if Bryz get bought out this off season.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

        Agreed. I want Bernier over Bryz, no question about it, but that’s a huge contract to eat. Especially since Briere only has 2 years left on his deal. Bryz played awesome tonight but it’s probably another one of those times where he looks like a top-10 goalie one game then gives up 4 goals a night in the next 5 games.

      • bobhpine - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:31 PM

        So typical. There is some pathological obsession in Philly about goalies. The dude has been your best players during this embarrassing season. He let up one regulation goal and you’re going on and on about some kid who you don’t even know you can get.

        What about fourth liner 6 mil a year guy Scott Hartnell? What about sub point per game guy claude Giroux? What about the Schenns, who suck out loud? What about the fact that van riemsdyk and carter are among the league leaders in goals and their replacements…aren’t?

        Focus people. Focus on who is really at fault for your sucking.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:17 AM

        Bobhpine, there’s nothing pathological about wanting a franchise goalie. Unlike Pens fans I’ve never seen the Flyers bad enough to pick a franchise goalie 1st overall, let alone the entire core of my team. Wait nevermind you’ve probably never SEEN “your” team pick that high either. How long have you been going to Pens games, which you never seem to stop bragging about? Since 2008? Or maybe you’re a “real” Pens fan and you’ve been going all the way back since 2005? That’s probably more accurate since it certainly wasn’t before Crosby landed in your laps, after all the Pens had the worst attendance in the entire NHL before the lockout. Now you’re all patting yourselves on the back, proclaiming what a loyal fanbase you are. Most of you are a bunch of frauds who deserted your team during the hardest times. But we don’t do that in Philadelphia. We still had attendance near the top of the league during the 06-07 season, one of worst in the history of franchise. We have every right to question Bryzgalov because tonight’s performance has been the exception, not the rule. He was excellent for the few weeks of the season but since then he’s been the same old, average Bryz. He rarely, if ever, steals a game. And hes had far too many mediocre showings in his two seasons here. He was excellent tonight but performances like that are rare. But you’re right about Bernier, I have no clue if they could get him, but if they amnesty Bryz, which is a possibility, there’s no question Bernier would be a target. He’s not in his prime yet and he plays for a team that already has a #1. Not to mention the Kings and Flyers know eachother very well and have a history of making deals. So you can look at the Flyers record and tell me who’s underperforming but don’t try to act like I’m crazy for wanting a legitimate, elite goaltender. I’ve seen every start Bryz has made since he joined the Flyers and I can, without a doubt, tell you he’s not an elite goalie. His contract is an albatross, especially with the cap ceiling going down, so he might not be here next year. And I don’t think it’s a crime to speculate about potential replacements for a bust of a goalie.

      • valoisvipers - Mar 25, 2013 at 10:46 AM

        phillyfanantic77 I really don’t see Bryz as the problem here.Set the time machine back three years and the Flyers defense was amongst the stingiest
        in the league.The loss of Pronger is huge and irreplaceable but couple that with the lack of back checking by the forwards and the giveaways in their own zone have been the root of their downfall. Bryz, this year has given the Flyers a chance to win on most nights despite the teams lack of focus,commitment and work ethic.Take last nights game, he holds the Pens potent offense to one goal in sixty minutes yet the Flyers can’t get score two goals. Hard to steal a game when you don’t get any support.

      • jpelle82 - Mar 25, 2013 at 11:52 AM

        considering snider isnt putting his own money up any more probably makes a big difference too. he sits as chairman and plays with monopoly money at this point with only a 1/3 of the give a crap he used to have.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:02 PM

        Valoisvipers, I am in no way blaming Bryz for the Flyers poor showing this season, but you can’t just look at a handful of games when evaluating a goalie. You must examine his entire body of work. And the bottom line is he hasn’t played close to his salary. And I don’t think anyone can argue otherwise. In most games it is almost a guarantee that Bryz will let in one soft goal. Now this season he’s been better and his teammates have certainly put him in precarious positions at times, but overall his contract will probably be his downfall. A team right against the cap limit (which is going down by about $6 mil) cannot afford to pay a goalie $5.67 mil a season for the kind of results Bryz has provided. It’s not a prudent business decision, and after all this is a business. Ed Snider isn’t going to pay a guy more than a lot of truly elite goalies to just be good. Most people don’t even consider Bryz to be a top-20 goaltender but you’re paying him like he’s top-5. It doesn’t add up. I can’t see the Flyers, desperate for a #1 dman (since the loss of Pronger), continue to invest a huge chunk of payroll in a guy that’s been good (for the most part) but not great. I’ve always been a Bryz supporter but are the Flyers really ever gonna be Cup contenders with him leading in goal? Would ANYONE take him over Lundqvist, Fleury, Quick, or even Luongo in a crucial game 7? Because, after watching every start of his Flyers career, I can tell you he’d be one of my last choices. You never know when he’s gonna have a performance like last night, he’s just not reliable enough to make that kind of money. Especially when it could be spent elsewhere to substantially improve the rest of the team.

  6. jimw81 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    t’s time to clean house on the roster and in the front office for flyers.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM

      Did you watch the same game I did? Cause I’m pretty sure the Flyers personnel did a damn good job tonight. Both teams had many chances to win it, the Pens just managed to get home a hell of a shot.

      • jimw81 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM

        This actually the only complete game they played in this season and the same issues showed up at the end of the game.

      • ironman721 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:14 PM

        Agree w/ phill77. Another great game that could have went either way.

    • jimw81 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:03 PM

      stop making excuses for players, lavy and holmgren. this season has been a total trainwreck from the start and it shows itself in every shape and form in every game. from players being lazy and taking stupid penalties. lavy and holmgren can point to every excuse they can but it’s lavy fault for misusing players in key situations, it’s holmgren fault handing out 6 million contract to a 40yr old defenseman and signing garbage players before the lockout.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM

      I think the only problem is that they’ve already cleaned house – actually the Flyers impressed me last night, they played a very disciplined game – both teams did. They earned a point – not as good as two but they did get one. Pens also looked good, it could have gone either way.

  7. steeltownpride - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    12 and counting . Keep it up boys . Morrow will add some with Malkin still out . Maybe he needs to play with Neal since he is stuggling without Malkin in the lineup .

  8. franchisethighs - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    It’s all there. All the juicy goodness you can desire. Sid. Geno. Neal. Letang. Flower. Kunitz. Morrow. Duper. Sutter. Martin. All in your mouths. Filthy stinks. They should move that team out of embarrassment. Fartsmell wasn’t even noticeable in this game. Just like his wife’s wedding ring when Carter comes to town.

  9. hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    I gotta admit Pittsburgh losing and then getting a 5-3 to tie like last game in Pitt, the Penguins do get calls at rather interesting times

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:25 PM

      The hooking call was bogus to put the flyers two men down !

      • hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM

        It happened last game man when they where behind just like clockwork

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:38 PM

        dude its not mine or your imagination you know its coming it usually starts around the 6 min mark of the third I don’t have stats to back it up but I bet the pens have had more 5 on 3 late in the game more than any other team

      • upyoursnfu - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:42 PM

        The old “blame the refs” card….sniff sniff. I guess that was a good no call by the refs when they missed the Coburn hit? If he gets suspended are you going to start using the “Shanahan hates the Flyers” card?

      • hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

        It’s almost like the league is pushing the Penguins to pick up where the Blackhawks left off cause of all the publicity that generated memo to all pens opponents get ahead of them early cause the refs will make sure by the end of the game they get their chances

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM

        your a 1000000% correct

      • killerpgh - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM

        The ref has to call that first penalty of Simmonds. He slashed Orpik’s stick out of his hands. No other penguins was back so Simmonds creates a good scoring chance by slashing Orpik’s stick out of his hands. And Timonem call was obvious as well. Kunitz is by himself on a simi breakaway and he sticks his stick though his arms an hooks his outside arm pulling it to him and ruining his scoring his chance. Both those calls would be made in a jus about every hockey game no matter if its a preseason game or a SCF game. If you want to talk about the Fedotenko call I would agree with you. But Martin’s slash was just as weak as Feds penalty. The refs let both teams play tonight 99% of the time. But when scoring chances are created/lost due to a penalty those will and should be called 99% of the time. How about that boarding at the end of regulation that didn’t get called against the Flyers?

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

        I totally agree on the first call ! There was a time you had to mug somebody then mug him again for the refs to put you two down ! Timonen only had one hand on his own stick that does not cause a resistance !

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 25, 2013 at 4:31 PM

        The damage had already been done by that point ! Your missing the point the refs are the reason the game got tied now you want the refs to win it for ya’s ! I never answer a question but answer this quest honestly ! If it was in reverse and the flyers go on the pp does the ref call that hook on Crosby to put the flyers two men up ?

      • pens5829 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:01 PM

        Did you leave early? Or were you just bored with anticipation of another loss and sat on PHT all night? Did you miss Hartnell’s stick-work behind his own net? Hatchet Man. Nice check by Cobourn??? Was rooting for Dupuis to get the game-winner, but I’ll take a TK goal.

        PS – if you’re not crying in your beer, turn on ROOT Sports for another classic Flyer meltdown.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:07 PM

        I stayed the whole game and actually can afford a phone and laptop with internet and in reality tow points is what you want but grabbing a point keeps you on life support !
        In all reality this game had nothing to do with the penquins and has everything to do with the teams from the 5 to 8 spot and I’ll take the point ! The pens are having a great regular season thats all it is ,,see ya in the first round !

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM

        As soon as Simmer was sent off I turned to my Brother and said here we go. Someone else is going to get a penalty in the next 30 seconds.

    • jpelle82 - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      ughh typical. both penalties were text book calls. you should be mad at the lack of penalty killing not the refs

    • hockeywithdrawal - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

      Pretty sure the Flyers goal was on a phantom call last night…a love tap at best, right? If the Flyers don’t want to get penalties called, stop commiting them.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

        HW let me ask you a question if the situation was in reverse flyers up a man and crosby does what timonen does do the flyers go two men up for almost a full two min ? Short answer NO!

      • hockeywithdrawal - Mar 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

        It’s a trick question, my friend…Crosby would NEVER do what Timonen did…

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

        Not a trick question at all if your honest with yourself you know the answers no ! Don’t take this question as a swipe at the Pens win its not intended that way its just how the NHL operates and we are both on the end of these type calls or non-calls !

  10. scem8771 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Flyers played well, but I think teams aren’t lowering their game to smash mouth hockey. Coburn is a GOON!

  11. phillyphanatic77 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    I know it’s a disappointing loss for the Flyers, especially with as well as they played tonight but I’m actually happy with the point. Did I want them to beat the Pens, end the streak, and even the season series? Absolutely, but but after a week off the Flyers really didn’t lose any ground. They have a five game homestand (where they’ve been twice the team they are on the road) coming up so they’re not out of it yet. If they play defense like they did tonight, Bryz plays half as well, and they get timely scoring they can sneak in. They just have to get to that 8 spot, and luckily the teams in front of them have been floundering for the most part. So great game tonight and, despite the loss, their performance gave me hope. Both teams played despite missing Letang, Malkin, Briere, and Grossmann. Fleury was sharp, as was Bryz- and you can’t blame him for that Kennedy goal. Hell of a shot. Pens fans still want him off the team? Lets see what the trolls have to say.

    As for the Coburn hit… yeah it was uncalled for but with the league’s current suspension practices you never know what they’ll say. Then again it wasn’t Nash or the Rangers committing the infraction so who knows.

  12. seawurd - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Pens beat another inferior team.
    GO HOME FLYERS !!
    End of story

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM

      with the refs help

      • miketoasty - Mar 25, 2013 at 9:17 AM

        Actually no, with the help of out of position defenseman who don’t know how to follow more than Crosby, get turned around, and then hook someone on a breakaway. I don’t know how it wasn’t called a penalty shot.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 25, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        How could it be called a penalty shot when it wasn’t even a hook !

      • miketoasty - Mar 26, 2013 at 8:56 AM

        eiggles, I don’t know whats more sad. The fact that you think that wasn’t a hook or the fact that you still think the Flyers have a chance to make it to the playoffs this year.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 26, 2013 at 4:56 PM

        Well Rick Tocchet feels the same way I do and he was on one of your cup teams he was on Philly radio pretty much agreeing with me that the Pens do not want to see the flyers in the first round ! I’ll tell you whats sad that you won’t admit that you are frightened of the flyers if they get in ! You are telling me they wont get in but I think its more hoping they don’t get in on your part !

      • miketoasty - Mar 27, 2013 at 1:02 PM

        No, at this point it would be a miracle for them to get in, and with how they played last night, I really hope you don’t still think they are going to win ~80% of their games over the next month.

        I hope they make it in, I love a good rivalry match up, but the fact is, for at least this season, they are bad.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM

        NOOOOOOOOOO that ships has sailed they are real bad ,Iam just gonna watch the rest of the games I can’t be let down at this point I guess when they are officially eliminated it will sting but I will be well prepared !

      • miketoasty - Mar 27, 2013 at 5:01 PM

        Hey, at least you know how it feels to be a Pirates fan….

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM

        Actually their last championship is more recent than the flyers ! Hahaahaha !

    • parkway4 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:34 PM

      The Flyers are 141-82-30-7 all time vs. Pitt so inferior isn’t really an ongoing thing here…

      • bobhpine - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:06 PM

        3 Stanley cups to two.

        You losers count up all the other stuff very well.

      • rt8102 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:17 PM

        I’m pretty sure I’d take having more championships than the all-time series. I guess when you’re always runner-up you cling to those things, though. Enjoy watching the Pens in the playoffs this year.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      Look another 12 year old joins the wagon. Seriously dude “go home flyers” lol

  13. Stiller43 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Coburns getting suspended for that hit. Not only was it a classic no-no hit, Duper wasnt even playing the puck anymore.

    Crosby-Giroux is great – when they play each other. Otherwise, G’s not close enough stat wise for it to be a great rivalry.

    Morrow should play with GENO and Nealer. They should move Bennett to Kennedys spot on the 3rd line (although, thank you for the winner tonight, Tyler!)

  14. ndrick731 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    Hey does Cindy still live with his butt buddy Mario

    • miketoasty - Mar 25, 2013 at 9:18 AM

      I dunno, does Giroux still whine about his wrists?

      • jpelle82 - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM

        and sleep on briere’s couch?

  15. philly4lyfe - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    they call one minor on each team through 2.5 periods, then magically the pens get a 2 man advantage with under 7 mins left in a 1 goal game because orpik can’t hold on to his own stick. ill give you the hooking call, but if a defender like simmonds is all over you and you know a stick check is coming and you only have one hand on your stick, thats your own fault. i understand it is a penalty with how the rule is written, but i strongly disagree with it. its was also funny watching read and voracek get drilled in front of the pens net without the puck and there’s under 3 mins left, but the whistles are mysteriously silent then.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:41 PM

      i agree i had no problem with the slash the hook was the gift to me !

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

        The slash was a weak call but I’ll give it to them. The hook was the biggest crock of BS since Bettman rigged the draft lottery in 2005.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 25, 2013 at 4:35 PM

        You now how we know we got f###ked ! If The flyers were a man up and Crosby did exactly what Timo did its a no call everyday of the week and twice on Sundays !

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM

      I know did you see the shot to the head with both gloves from behind around the 30 second mark it flat out was a roughing minor ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,nothing !

  16. einjzmolf - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    Discuss: Penguins went to Little Caesars for lunch this afternoon
    Discuss: Penguins had nap time earlier today in preparation for big game
    Could you atleast make ‘Discuss’ topics about every game? Being a biased reporter is pretty unprofessional, i mean i know this is NBC but atleast try to mask it a little
    inb4 downvotes because pens fans love james o brien

    • miketoasty - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:19 PM

      You are an idiot, the Penguins now have the longest win streak this season playing a game that was hosted on this sites network. Let me put my shocked face on that they want more publicity

  17. wisdomnfl - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Should have been a much easier win for pens they had a lot of chances. Bryz did a nice job in net for Philly, he always plays tough vs pitt. Good game.

  18. Stiller43 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Hockeyfan28,

    Call it interesting, call it whatever you want…if you think neither or either of those WERENT penalties, then you dont know hockey.

    I thought the one on Kunitz could have been a penalty shot (maybe he didnt have long enough of a breakaway).

    • hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:11 PM

      It’s always a blast when Gary’s boys are involved dude the league is in the tank for these guys

  19. steelers88 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    WOW.

  20. ironcity6pak - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    Did anyone get a count on how many missed shots the pens have. Good win though they both played good and both holiest were hot.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:13 PM

      I totally agree with you if the pens were a little more on the net I think this game could have been a small blowout !

  21. Stiller43 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    Phillyfan4lyfe,

    “ill give you the hooking call”

    “I understand its a penalty the way the rule is written”

    So youre arguing this…why?

    • President Charles Logan - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:41 PM

      cause ever since 1975 they argue and reach and grasp at any little excuse they can come up with

  22. ragingyinzer - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Where’s joeyb3878? Getting “owned” somewhere in South Philly, I’m sure.

  23. mp1113 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    caps baby

  24. Stiller43 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Trbowman,

    So, you know you wont like (or say you dont), then click to read and bother to comment about how it sucks…and then you come back for more comments!!

    Youre either an idiot or a hypocrite. Or both.

  25. Stiller43 - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Parkway4,

    If you want to talk about all time records, or stuff from almost 50 years ago, dont argue when someone says “1975” to you.

    Btw, 3 rings….and 1975.

    And a sports site had them at about 8% chance of making the playoffs…im guessing that went down a tiny bit after tonight. If you wanna bet on that, go ahead.

  26. orpiksdeadeyes - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    well well well, the Pens streak is now 12. thats a win for every inch of Sids hawg. poor Flyers. they thought they had a shot at ending the tidal wave of victory. they had a better chance at finding Fraude Giroux and Couturier teeth. While the Flyers were giving each other hot dog handshakes in the locker room during the second intermission, Sid was getting his hamstrings massaged with evaporated milk in preparation for his game tying goal that would make Bryzgalov’s butthole pucker tighter than a snare drum. Shortly after, TK busted out a drum solo on it. OOO EEEEE.

  27. philly4lyfe - Mar 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    its so cute watchin so many penns fans come out of the woodwork to talk trash now that there team is actually competitive. where were all of you 6 years ago?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2718534

    • hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:13 PM

      Hey Philly everyone knows Penguins fans didn’t exist before 2006 and only come out after a Penguins win

      • rt8102 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:15 PM

        The only “argument” Philly fans have when they lose to the Pens. Just remember, 1975. Go cry yourself to sleep now.

      • hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:33 PM

        I am impressed the Penguins must lead this board in the amount of different user ids using the same kind of language

      • hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:37 PM

        Calling it now Pittsburgh Chicago in the finals Gary wouldn’t want it any other way

      • chanceoffleury1 - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:59 AM

        I think anybody who is a hockey fan that wants to see the sport succeed and expand and not a biased homer would love to see that final if their team can’t be in it. After the lockout, the ratings would be absolutely fantastic and people would be drooling over that “Golden Boys of Canada” Crosby/Toews matchup. They are so similar, yet so different. Each extensively decorated with bragging rights in his own way. And the best part is that somebody is gonna have to win and captain their team to a second Cup. A part of me is hoping for somebody else because I think Chicago would beat the Pens, but another part wants to beat the best if they want to be the best. A little piece of Pittsburgh would still win though, because Brandon Saad was born and raised here. It would be the silver lining in a finals loss to the Hawks.

    • blackandyellow71 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:17 PM

      That was an empty threat by Mario to finally get funding for a new arena. Crooked Philly governor Rendall wouldn’t provide any money after every other professional team in the state had gotten a new stadium / arena. Yea there were some bleak times between the Mario era and the Sid Geno era, but the threatening to move was all aimed at the politicians, not because lack of fan support.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:28 AM

        Worst attendance in the ENTIRE NHL the year before the lockout. Then they got Malkin and Crosby in consecutive drafts and *poof* everyones a Pens fan for life. I know there are real Pens fans in Pittsburgh who never deserted the team, but there is also a large percentage of frauds, fans who jumped back on the bandwagon as soon as they won the Crosby lottery. And even more got on when they went to consecutive finals. I’m sure I’ll get “thumbs down” from every Pens fan on here, but nothing I said is inaccurate.

      • chanceoffleury1 - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:29 AM

        @phillyphanatic77, in our defense, throughout the past 6 years there have been a handful of times when both Crosby and Malkin were both out and the Pens still sold out every single game. It’s because Mario and Shero have finally given the fans something to root for. Something BESIDES one star player.

        In just about every single American NHL city, whenever they have losing records over multiple seasons attendance dips. Pittsburgh, Chicago, Minnesota, Colorado, Boston, etc. Should we relocate Chicago and Boston? I mean their attendance dipped significantly back when they were struggling, too. Maybe not as much as Pittsburgh when you look at the actual physical number, but keep in mind they are actually 3-5x the size of Pittsburgh. Bringing in 17,000 fans when you have almost 8-10 million people is a lot easier than bringing in the same amount when you only have 2 million. I’ve found that people tend to forget that the city of Pittsburgh is actually a pretty small market. Judged by population, it’s ranked 19th among the 23 American NHL markets. Not bad for the 9th overall most valued team.

    • killerpgh - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:18 PM

      You do realize that in 2006 when that article was written the Penguins averaged 15,804 people per home game. That’s over 93% of tickets sold. And that was a Penguins team that wasn’t good. The Penguins finished 29th overall with 58 points. The only worse team in the league was the Blues who finished with 57 points. Attendance wasn’t the issue. It was the crock of a PA governor who happened to be a season ticket holder to a certain Philly sport team who was playing hardball with Mario/Burle about getting a new arena. The was no chance of the team leaving. It was stupid politics.

  28. phlyerzpwnu - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    We have zero room to talk…we got beat, again. As much as it pains me, the Pens are the best hockey…We played a great game, I don’t understand why we don’t see that kind of effort against any other team but the Pens!?!

  29. csilojohnson - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Two obvious penalties at the end of the game. All the Flyers fans crying conspiracy need to be mad at your own team for making it easy for the refs. Check this years stats. I’m pretty sure the Pens are near the top in 5-3 PKs. (amount not success lol) Keep betting on what happened last year. This Pens team is more well rounded. A lot more composed.

  30. ironman721 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    Pens are still Marching! 12 strait! That should just about wrap up the division. Now get healthy and gear up for the playoffs! Let’s go Pens🐧❗

  31. mj1818 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Every NHL and professional city are fair weather. Philly is just as bad as the next when it comes to supporting a losing team.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

      The Flyers were the worst team in the NHL in 06-07 and the attendance did not drop in the least. I went to four Eagles games this season, during a 4-12 campaign, and every one was sold out. The only team anyone in Philly stops paying attention to is the Sixers. But watching them is worse than having shards of glass repeatedly stabbed in your eyes.

      • President Charles Logan - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:48 AM

        Phillies fans are hands down the biggest wagon hoppers in a 5 year span that I have ever witnessed in all of Professional Sports, although just as Citizens Bank Park opened they got better each passing year, fortunate timing on guess

      • ml3939 - Mar 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM

        I see you suffering a fate similar to that of Charles Logan- where is the big dip in attendance indicative of a bandwagon fan base? Just not seeing it. I see a larger arena was built to help accommodate more fans-

        http://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph.php?tmi=7439

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 25, 2013 at 4:21 AM

        Please Charles Logan, nothing compares to the influx of Red Sox fans around the country following their championship in ’04 (I think?). I will not argue that plenty of Phillies fans jumped on the bandwagon during the ’08 run. I grew up watching and going to games to see the likes of Scott Rolen, Rico Brogna, and Mickey Morandini, etc. but not many others paid attention to them then. However, I will say that the Phillies began garnering very respectable attendance numbers when Citizens Bank park opened in 2004, well before the championship. Veterans stadium was so crappy that I don’t blame casual Phillies fans for not wanting to pay to go there. And most of the bandwagon fans came from outside the city.

      • chanceoffleury1 - Mar 25, 2013 at 3:30 PM

        @phillyphanatic77 What you just said about the Phillies getting popular when Citizen’s Bank park opened and people not wanting to go to Veteran’s Park is literally the EXACT argument that Pens fans are trying to make you realize about Pittsburgh. Did you ever have a chance to go to Mellon Arena?????? It was easily the worst arena in the entire NHL by a mile. It wasn’t even built for hockey or even any sport. It was built for opera. Which brings us back to the relocation argument that was not due to lack of fan support, but because the Pens were tired of playing hockey in an opera house for the past 45 years. And the 2004/05 increase in Phillies support might have been a little bit to do with the opening of a new park, but it just so happens they got a little player by the name of Ryan Howard who just so happened to rack up some rookie of the year and league MVP hardware for a couple years there right around the exact same time the Phillies fans came back…………a player coming to town and reigniting a franchise. Sounds oddly familiar.

        People like to support winning teams. There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m not just a hockey fan, I’m a sports fan in general. Going to any live sporting event nowadays is not cheap regardless if the team is winning or not. If I have the option, I want to go watch a game where I’ll leave happy and felt I got my money’s worth from the ticket. The early 2000s Pens were a bad team in a bad arena being run by a bad general manager. Why would fans give their money and support to a team when it’s obvious the organization itself doesn’t really care all that much to improve? They traded way good players in return for garbage prospects and/or they traded good prospects for garbage has-been players. They weren’t just a bad team now. They had a bad future, too.

  32. Stiller43 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Oh look, another conspiracy theory by hockeyfan28. Dont worry, youll have over 5 full months of offseason to come up with more.

    • hockeyfan28 - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:56 PM

      So glad your concerned for my well being just pray we don’t go totally in the tank cause we aren’t that far away from the worst record in the league and with the worst record brings Jones, Drouin, or Mckinnen

  33. jazzyherb - Mar 24, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    You do realize that was without Malkin and Letang

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

      And Briere and Grossmann. Granted Briere hasn’t contributed much this season, but Grossmann has been our best defender. And the Flyers still played solid team defense. Not taking anything away from the Pens win, it was a great game, but they’ve shown before they can survive when stars go down with injuries.

  34. jazzyherb - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Talbot says ssshhh

  35. Stiller43 - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    Were not here to argue the attendance for the eagles (btw, “sold out” and attendance are two different things. A few of those games, it looked like the stadium was a ghost town).

    And the ole “hey, we suck right now and our rivals are awesome…what can i make fun of them for? Season series record? no, they beat is in that…Cups? No, they have more than us…maybe i can crossover and talk about how the phillies and eagles each have more world series/superbowls than the pirates or steelers…wait, actually all burgh teams have more championships…i know, attendance from 10 years ago!! I’ll call them bandwagon fans!! Even though they have a much smaller economy, and WAY fewer people to buy tickets, i’ll say they had no support when they were the worst team in the league!!” argument is stupid at best.

    • ml3939 - Mar 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM

      You might want to do some research, Philadelphia has more championships in the the big four sports all time.

      • miketoasty - Mar 25, 2013 at 9:29 AM

        Research done.

        Philly:

        Flyers – 2
        Eagles – 0
        76ers – 3
        Phillies – 2
        Total – 7

        Pittsburgh:
        Penguins – 3
        Pirates – 5
        Steelers – 6
        Basketball – 0
        Total – 14

        What the hell are you talking about?

      • ml3939 - Mar 25, 2013 at 9:48 AM

        Most, and probably all of us, weren’t around to appreciate them all but the A’s won 5 World Series here, the Warriors won 1 here and the Quakers and Yellow Jackets won 1 Championship in football each. I got 17 total and cannot account for the fact that an NBA team could not last more than a year in Pittsburgh. It may have taken more teams but Philly has more championships. That’s the argument at hand.

      • ml3939 - Mar 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM

        And the eagles have 3 NFL championships, football existed long before the Super Bowl.

  36. pitpenguinsrulez - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    I love watching all of these armchair quarterbacks on here just bashing each other religiously. Flyer fans always use the same crap about the Pens. Sure the Flyers may lead in the overall series record but lets not forget that a lot of that came from the early days of the rivalry, for 15 years straight the Pens couldn’t even win a game in the Spectrum until Wendell Young and the Pens beat them in 1988 in Philly. Both teams played well but the Pens are a dangerous team when trailing. I like how people say “Well Timonens penalty was bogus” Well lets put you in Kunitzs shoes and see how you like it when someone hooks you as your going in goal or even when Simmonds knocks the stick out of Orpiks hands. Im pretty sure youd be crying for a penalty!!! As for Giroux, his goal looked like one of those typical garbage goals that you score in NHL 13. Jagr made Giroux good and without Jagr on his wing Giroux IS NOTHING simply put. Giroux isn’t even on Sidney Crosbys skill level. Crosby and the Pens have gotten the better of the rivalry since 2005. The Flyers don’t have a chance to make it in the playoffs due to the fact that teams ahead of them have like a game or two in hand and plus they have more points unlike the Flyers do currently.

    GO PENS

    One interesting note: Pittsburgh Penguins Official Game Pucks from 1967 up to Present Day are worth a lot more MONEY than a Flyers Puck. The only Flyer pucks that are worth money are the Goal Pucks from 1972-1974 and the 1967 Big Logo Converse Souvenir Puck due to its rarity. After that nothing else of the Flyers is worth much. Penguins memorabilia is worth a LOT more money! I know this because im a collector of Penguins Memorabilia/Pucks and NHL game pucks from 1920-1958

  37. Stiller43 - Mar 25, 2013 at 2:54 AM

    Ml3939,

    The big four sports?

    Okay, assuming youre talking about basketball, which is terrible, pittsburgh doesnt play one of those sports…and otherwise, its 6 superbowls to 0, 5 world series to 2, and 3 cups to 2.

    Please do some research and explain how the burgh trails.

    • Stiller43 - Mar 25, 2013 at 3:24 AM

      Actually, research i did said your 4 sports have combined for 10 championships (if you want to count pre nfl-afl merger championships) …

      Phillies and flyers have 2 each, eagles and 6ers have 3 each.

      Pittsburghs 3 sports have 14. Steelers – 6, Pens -3, BUCCOS – 5.

      Looks like our 3 sports beats your 4. But i’d love to hear about your research.

      • ml3939 - Mar 25, 2013 at 8:57 AM

        Most, and probably all of us, weren’t around to appreciate them all but the A’s won 5 World Series here, the Warriors won 1 here and the Quakers and Yellow Jackets won 1 Championship in football each. I got 17 total and cannot account for the fact that an NBA team could not last more than a year in Pittsburgh. It may have taken more teams but Philly has more championships. That’s the argument at hand.

  38. ironman721 - Mar 25, 2013 at 8:14 AM

    The 1940’s are over. “Welcome to the New Age! The New Age!” Get yourselves an IPad and some wi-fi and watch the Pens “March” to the cup!

  39. jacketsfan7 - Mar 25, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    Place morrow along with Brandon Sutter and Tyler Kennedy

  40. whammy87 - Mar 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    7% chance of making playoffs….WHAMMY!

  41. philly4lyfe - Mar 25, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    that’s right, I totally forgot that the pens have aleays been the model of financial stability thanks to their diehard fan base. how silly of me…

    http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/1998/10/14/hoc_241830.shtml

    • hockeyfan1701 - Mar 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM

      WOW….an article from 15 years ago. You sure are good at using Google. Since we are talking about years ago here is another date for you. May 27, 1975, that is the last time your pathetic excuse of franchise did anything except let their fans down.

  42. whammy87 - Mar 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    here’s an idea..
    since u filthy fans have so much free time this spring how about getting together and cleaning that mess you call a city? the last time I smelled something that bad I was pulling down girouxs moms granny panties!

  43. stew48 - Mar 25, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    I am 82. While I read a lot of comments on various sports blogs, today was a pleasant surprise to me here on the hockey blog. Many of the comments were actually informative and worth reading. Of course, the element of fan support had to discussed, as though some actually knew something about the subject, which they don’t.

    There is only one professional team in sports that has an enormous and undefinable support of their team, and that is the Chicago Cubs. While a Pennsylvanian, I inadvertently became a Cubs fan in 1943. Does that tell you anything about suffering? I am not alone; it was a great gift to me when two friends treated me to my second visit to Wrigley a couple of years ago. The clincher, however, was a trip to Cincinnati last summer for a Cub game. It was shocking to see all the Cub fans with their player shirts there for mid-week game. Even more surprising was the name on the most number of shirts I saw—–PRIOR.

    So, don’t brag about your team being supported; the only losers supported have been the Cubs’ teams. Blessings.

    • jimeejohnson - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:37 PM

      You forgot about the NY Mets, Cleveland Browns, and the NY Islanders.

  44. philly4lyfe - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    every pens fan makes their living on here by bringing up something from almost 40 years ago, as you exhibited in your post, but you have a problem with someone mentioning something about your franchise from 15 years ago? please explain.

    • hockeyfan1701 - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM

      Well it is simple, win a cup within 40 years and you can take that ammo away.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

      Never ending hypocrisy from the other side. They all say that Flyers fans use the same old bankruptcy, Kansas City, bandwagoner fans arguments while they exclaim “1975” as the be all, end all, “legitimate” argument. We can bring up a year too: 2005. That’s the year that all the diehards in Pittsburgh decided it was fashionable enough to start watching their beloved Pens again. They hate talking about history because they gave up on their team so many times throughout it. NOBODY went to Pens games until they won those Cups in the early 90s, then less than 10 years later it was back to NOBODY going to Pens games, then because of their futility they end up with Ryan Whitney, MA Fleury, Malkin, Crosby, and Staal- all their top core players or were traded for core pieces. Once Crosby came on board all the “diehards” came back out of the woodwork. They sold out ONE game in 03-04, now they all act like they never left. The numbers don’t lie. In fact they tell you all you need to know about Pens fans. And it wasn’t just the losing seasons, their attendance dwindled in the late 90s while Jagr was still at his peak. But they didn’t win a Cup then so no one watched. They’re the ultimate fair weather fans, because it’s unbelievably easy to be a fan when your team is winning. What separates real fans is what goes on during the hard times, when things look their bleakest, and Pittsburgh showed how much they truly cared about the Pens when they were in their darkest days. There were some real diehards that stuck it out, there are plenty of respectable Pens fans on PHT, but idk how you can legitimately argue that most of the City of Pittsburgh didn’t give up on the franchise. Don’t give the crooked Rendell arguement, it was clearly a lack of support. People stopped going, revenues dwindled, and now they wanna rewrite history as if they’ve been there all along.

      # of sellouts by year: 97-98 (7), 98-99 (5), 99-00 (13), 00-01 (26), 01-02 (18), 02-03 (8), 03-04 (1), then Crosby comes… 05-06 (12), 06-07 (30), then the Stanley Cup visits…07-08 (41), 08-09 (40). Funny they couldnt consistently sell out until they had been to and won another Cup. But where were all the diehards during the building and rebuilding stages? Those numbers perfectly illustrate the true nature of a majority of Pens fans. Lets see what happens when Crosby and Malkin retire. History tends to repeat itself.

      • ml3939 - Mar 25, 2013 at 3:47 PM

        You can’t make a point that is too strongly fact based or the dissenters will quietly just thumb you down until the next article. You should definitely re-post this early next time the “die-hards” show up to flex their muscles.

      • ml3939 - Mar 25, 2013 at 3:53 PM

        And just to keep track, some of the fact based arguments Pens’ fans avoid- they are the bandwagon fans with historical attendance figures to back it up, they tanked games to draft Lemeiux, this is one sided rivalry, in terms of success overall, the pens’ hold a 3-2 cup edge but the Flyers are the more successful franchise almost 75% of the time and philadelphia has more professional sports championships

  45. broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 25, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Typical bandwagon Hens fans. Hoisting the cup already boys? Weren’t you guys the anointed ones last year too? Didn’t you guys ride into the playoffs on a 11 game winning streak or some trash like that? Didn’t the sports writers and handicappers crown you the Stanley cup winners? Umm what exactly happened last year? You guys were soooo grand.

    Lets get down to reality. Keep harping on your projections, assumptions, percentages, tabulations, statistics, or tarot cards. whatever keeps you guys all warm and fuzzy when you sleep. The last thing you guys want is to face the Flyers in the playoffs we all know it. Hell, as “diehard” pens fans you guys should be rooting for the Flyers to get that number 8 seed so you guys can get some payback for last season, but we all know you guys want to avoid that like the plague so as to not face another embarrassing repeat.

    A couple of years ago a struggling Flyers team faced a struggling Rags team, the # 8 spot all came down to one game and one goal. We all know how that ended up. So, the final question I pose is simple. If it came down to one goal a few short years ago, why not again? Oh thats right because the same sports people that gave the cup to Pitt last year are the same ones saying Philly has a 7% chance of making the playoffs. Brilliant!

  46. jimeejohnson - Mar 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    No worries: gonna put fries and coleslaw on top of my cheesesteak to honor the great state of Pennsylvania and its two, world famous hockey clubs. Washing it down with a Yuengling! Good day.

    • valoisvipers - Mar 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM

      Cheers, they are two great teams for sure!

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