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		<title>By: sufferingphilsfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good stuff..but you are talking about the NHL here...everything they do is knee-jerk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good stuff..but you are talking about the NHL here&#8230;everything they do is knee-jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: sufferingphilsfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[keep the nets the same...make the equipment smaller...and teach players to shoot...the boards get hit with more pucks than goalie pads nowadays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keep the nets the same&#8230;make the equipment smaller&#8230;and teach players to shoot&#8230;the boards get hit with more pucks than goalie pads nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: hyjyljyj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3. No owner in his right mind is going to rip out three rows of the most expensive seats in the house, let alone 30 owners doing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3. No owner in his right mind is going to rip out three rows of the most expensive seats in the house, let alone 30 owners doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: hyjyljyj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right on. Basketball is unwatchable.

I would also reduce the size of the lacrosse cage to five feet square nstead of six and take away the 2-point arc in the pro game. Give the goalies some hope of a decent outing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on. Basketball is unwatchable.</p>
<p>I would also reduce the size of the lacrosse cage to five feet square nstead of six and take away the 2-point arc in the pro game. Give the goalies some hope of a decent outing.</p>
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		<title>By: hyjyljyj</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/20/babcock-advocates-bigger-nets/comment-page-1/#comment-152656</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Changing net size is a knee-jerk idea, like the notion that smaller goalie equipment must mean less protection. 

For more scoring and more mobile, better protected goaltenders:

Go back to 10-inch-wide pads, the size used in 1937, as they should have done last time when they only went from 12 to 11. Since 1937, the padding material has gotten far lighter yet vastly more protective, the shape is now anatomical to protect the entire knee and leg, plus the pads don&#039;t hold water. This size has worked just fine for Marty Brodeur to become the best all-time. Allow the height to remain the goalie&#039;s preference. Hold a ruler across your shin--do you need more than ten inches of width to protect your leg--or is that about taking away the net? Let the goalie, not the equipment, make the save. Increase allowable thickness (&quot;depth&quot;) from 10.5&quot; to 12&quot; for more shin and knee protection. 

Now the catching glove. Tony Esposito set a record that may never be broken, 15 shutouts in a season, using a glove that Phil has said would fit inside just the trapper portion of today&#039;s leather dog-catcher&#039;s net. Get a ruler--does that glove need to be literally HALF A YARD LONG from the wrist to the tip as it is today? Why not a whole yard?? Tony-O might have ended the season with a GAA around 0.00 with one of these things. Instead, cut the length back to 14&quot; (not even a 25% reduction), closer to a first base mitt; improve the actual palm and finger padding in any way desired. Completely remove the cheater slab between thumb and forearm that has zero to do with protection. Nobody&#039;s wrist is 8&quot; wide; like the cheater slab, that ridiculously wide cuff is about taking away the net, not about protection. Reduce the width of the wrist cuff and the blocker pad both by 25%, from 8&quot; to 6&quot;. Allow them to be made 25% thicker, though, for more actual protection of the goaltender.

Note these suggestions take away no protection of the goalie&#039;s body, but actually improve it, and restore some of the equipment to dimensions more like those used by NHL netminders who did pretty damn well despite having no discernible &quot;style&quot; or relentless scientific coaching. 

Result would be both better goaltenders AND more scoring, without forcing every rink in every town, suburb and rural outpost in N. America to buy expensive new cages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing net size is a knee-jerk idea, like the notion that smaller goalie equipment must mean less protection. </p>
<p>For more scoring and more mobile, better protected goaltenders:</p>
<p>Go back to 10-inch-wide pads, the size used in 1937, as they should have done last time when they only went from 12 to 11. Since 1937, the padding material has gotten far lighter yet vastly more protective, the shape is now anatomical to protect the entire knee and leg, plus the pads don&#8217;t hold water. This size has worked just fine for Marty Brodeur to become the best all-time. Allow the height to remain the goalie&#8217;s preference. Hold a ruler across your shin&#8211;do you need more than ten inches of width to protect your leg&#8211;or is that about taking away the net? Let the goalie, not the equipment, make the save. Increase allowable thickness (&#8220;depth&#8221;) from 10.5&#8243; to 12&#8243; for more shin and knee protection. </p>
<p>Now the catching glove. Tony Esposito set a record that may never be broken, 15 shutouts in a season, using a glove that Phil has said would fit inside just the trapper portion of today&#8217;s leather dog-catcher&#8217;s net. Get a ruler&#8211;does that glove need to be literally HALF A YARD LONG from the wrist to the tip as it is today? Why not a whole yard?? Tony-O might have ended the season with a GAA around 0.00 with one of these things. Instead, cut the length back to 14&#8243; (not even a 25% reduction), closer to a first base mitt; improve the actual palm and finger padding in any way desired. Completely remove the cheater slab between thumb and forearm that has zero to do with protection. Nobody&#8217;s wrist is 8&#8243; wide; like the cheater slab, that ridiculously wide cuff is about taking away the net, not about protection. Reduce the width of the wrist cuff and the blocker pad both by 25%, from 8&#8243; to 6&#8243;. Allow them to be made 25% thicker, though, for more actual protection of the goaltender.</p>
<p>Note these suggestions take away no protection of the goalie&#8217;s body, but actually improve it, and restore some of the equipment to dimensions more like those used by NHL netminders who did pretty damn well despite having no discernible &#8220;style&#8221; or relentless scientific coaching. </p>
<p>Result would be both better goaltenders AND more scoring, without forcing every rink in every town, suburb and rural outpost in N. America to buy expensive new cages.</p>
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		<title>By: spavs412</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[North America needs bigger ice! Give Sid more ice he&#039;ll set up more goals!! I love team D and great goalies but more ice will help open it up some..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>North America needs bigger ice! Give Sid more ice he&#8217;ll set up more goals!! I love team D and great goalies but more ice will help open it up some..</p>
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		<title>By: kendog1</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/20/babcock-advocates-bigger-nets/comment-page-1/#comment-152462</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally, someone speaks the truth.  There is no room for skill players to dazzle us with what makes hockey cool! I heard a player comment recently: &quot; You rarely score on the rush anymore...&quot;  What does that tell you?  The NHL has turned into a league where huge guys that dump the puck in and chase it (LA Kings) thrive.  Unfortunately, Eddie O&#039;s relentless harping notwithstanding, this style of hockey is not exciting at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, someone speaks the truth.  There is no room for skill players to dazzle us with what makes hockey cool! I heard a player comment recently: &#8221; You rarely score on the rush anymore&#8230;&#8221;  What does that tell you?  The NHL has turned into a league where huge guys that dump the puck in and chase it (LA Kings) thrive.  Unfortunately, Eddie O&#8217;s relentless harping notwithstanding, this style of hockey is not exciting at all.</p>
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		<title>By: kendog1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kendog1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Players are bigger, no question.  The current ice surface is now too small.  How many time have you heard players comment &quot;there&#039;s no room out there...&quot; Skill players have no room to do what we love to see.  The NHL has turned into a dump and chase league and no matter what Eddie O advocates, it has become really boring. Exciting end to end rushes with 3 or 4 high passes at full speed that result in a scoring chance are what make hockey the best sport of all.  Unfortunately,  it&#039;s a phenomena you rarely see anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players are bigger, no question.  The current ice surface is now too small.  How many time have you heard players comment &#8220;there&#8217;s no room out there&#8230;&#8221; Skill players have no room to do what we love to see.  The NHL has turned into a dump and chase league and no matter what Eddie O advocates, it has become really boring. Exciting end to end rushes with 3 or 4 high passes at full speed that result in a scoring chance are what make hockey the best sport of all.  Unfortunately,  it&#8217;s a phenomena you rarely see anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: kendog1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kendog1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude,  Really?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude,  Really?</p>
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		<title>By: kendog1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kendog1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Penguins... nobody can stand the penguins...mostly because of the NHL hype about Crosby.  Babcock is right though, but not about the goal size.  The NHL players have gotten bigger but the ice surface has not.  How many times have you heard players say &quot;there is no room out there&quot;?  Skill players have no room to do what we love to see and teams that have big guys that dump the puck in and chase it thrive (see LA Kings).  However, regardless of Eddie O&#039;s constant harping, dump and chase is relentlessly boring.  The NHL needs to widen the rink size a little ( 3 or 4 feet ) to allow skill players to do what no one else in the world can do, dazzle us with their open ice play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penguins&#8230; nobody can stand the penguins&#8230;mostly because of the NHL hype about Crosby.  Babcock is right though, but not about the goal size.  The NHL players have gotten bigger but the ice surface has not.  How many times have you heard players say &#8220;there is no room out there&#8221;?  Skill players have no room to do what we love to see and teams that have big guys that dump the puck in and chase it thrive (see LA Kings).  However, regardless of Eddie O&#8217;s constant harping, dump and chase is relentlessly boring.  The NHL needs to widen the rink size a little ( 3 or 4 feet ) to allow skill players to do what no one else in the world can do, dazzle us with their open ice play.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeAvg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 02:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All due repect, you have a short memory my friend. The trapezoid was brought in (the Marty Brodeur rule) because goalies playing the puck was bringing scoring way down. Marty, Hasek, etc. were so adept at clearing the puck back to the neutral zone that time in the offensive zone was becoming minimal. It did not stop teams from dumping and chasing. In addition, a goalie is not going to play a puck in the corner when icing is going to be called.

If you really want to get rid of a rule that reduces scoring, bury the Montreal Canadiens rule that springs the guy from the box when a goal is scored on a minor penalty. Make him feel shame for the whole two minutes regardless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All due repect, you have a short memory my friend. The trapezoid was brought in (the Marty Brodeur rule) because goalies playing the puck was bringing scoring way down. Marty, Hasek, etc. were so adept at clearing the puck back to the neutral zone that time in the offensive zone was becoming minimal. It did not stop teams from dumping and chasing. In addition, a goalie is not going to play a puck in the corner when icing is going to be called.</p>
<p>If you really want to get rid of a rule that reduces scoring, bury the Montreal Canadiens rule that springs the guy from the box when a goal is scored on a minor penalty. Make him feel shame for the whole two minutes regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: iHeartHockey31</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 01:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather see the size of the nets increase than see goaltender equipment size reduced.  
The article here explains one of the issues caused when the NHL changed knee pad stack size a few years ago [without researching the potential long-term impact]

http://ingoalmag.com/news/butterfly-and-hip-injuries-backstrom-back-to-surgeon/

I don&#039;t understand how any of the GMs that have had their starting goaltenders injured this season would want to decrease the available protection for their star netminders in favor of higher scoring games. There&#039;s talk of mandatory visor wear to protect skaters.  Some skaters [that don&#039;t wear visors] beleive the visor interferes with their vision [which could have an impact on their ability to score goals].  The league is OK with safety before scoring when it comes to visor wear.  When it comes to their goaltenders, somehow higher scoring takes precendece over protecting their goaltenders.  Where was the talk that should have gone with this topic regarding enforcing the rules to [or modifying ] pertaining to &#039;making an effort to avoid hitting the goaltender].  They want to reduce the size of the goalie equipment but do nothing about players skating full speed into the net ?

I agree with Babcock about making the nets bigger if the league wants to see higher scoring,  I don&#039;t particularly have an issue with the scoring [then again I live in Philadelphia so we tend to have very high scoring games].  However if the league is convinced that scoring is what&#039;s needed to make the game better, I&#039;d rather see the net size increase before they take away protection from goaltenders.  

Like it or not, the game is always changing, it&#039;s evolved and whether larger nets are the right or answer may be up for debate, the &#039;hockey purist&#039; excuse isn&#039;t really valid anymore.  Prior to 1918 goaltenders weren&#039;t allowed to drop to their knees to stop pucks. [see Clint &#039;Praying Benny&#039; Benedict] Are the hockey purists still debating this one?  While I&#039;m not suggesting this is the solution, but f the goalies don&#039;t need to go down anymore, they won&#039;t need knee stack protection, so it&#039;d be OK to reduce the equipment size.  And think how much scoring would be increased!  Getting rid of the 1918 rule allowing goalies to drop down when stopping pucks would make the hockey purists and NHL happy.  

My own personal suggestion is before they go around making the nets bigger, how about we get rid of the stupid trapezoid.  Goalies are already letting pucks in while running around outside the net, why not give them more freedom [Ha Ha Check out some of the KHL games where Pekka Rinne tried to play the puck in the corners...]  More often than not the goalies are going to screw up and there will be more goals.  It would also improve the game because in some cases, players may think about carrying the puck over the line rather than dumping it if they know there&#039;s a goaltender that can play the puck on the other side.  With Carey Price and Mike Smith picking up puck handling skills like Brodeur, we&#039;d likely see less dump and chase.  Which [to me] would improve the game more than increased scoring.  I&#039;d rather watch a game where players are skillfully carrying the puck down the ice than spend 2 hours watching 10 guys chase a puck from end to end.  Let the goalies get the pucks in the corners.  That could even fix the icing issues.  Icing rules won&#039;t matter if the goalies are goaling after the pucks and clearing the pucks out of the corners.  

If the trapezoid isn&#039;t going away and/or doesn&#039;t lead to the scoring solution the NHL is looking for, then I&#039;m all for making the nets bigger.  Bigger nets might mean more skaters actually trying to shoot pucks into the net [instead of hannging around the net stabbing the goalie with their sticks looking for the puck for a trash goal].  I like to see goals scored by talented players who shoot the puck into the net.  Not by 10 guys scrambling on their hands and knees until [maybe?] the puck went over the line, followed by 10 minutes of reviewing replays to determine if there is &#039;indisputable evidence to overturn the call [or non call] made on the ice. Then 20 minutes later hearing they decided the puck brushed by somebody else&#039;s leg so they&#039;re now credited with the goal.  It&#039;s just luck [or Toronto&#039;s decision] at that point.  When the broadcaster isn&#039;t sure if the puck went in and/or doesn&#039;t know who may or may not have scored, that&#039;s when player&#039;s aren&#039;t really using they&#039;re hockey skills anymore.  With a bigger net, skaters will start relying on their ability to shoot pucks again instead of seeing who can shove the goaltender into the net while he may or may not be covering the puck so we can wait on the war room to let us know if it was a goal or not.  

Don&#039;t get me wrong, this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRWiwBEpV7k] is certainly entertaining, but I&#039;m not 100% sure they&#039;re playing hockey anymore.  

[1] Get rid of the trapezoid [2] Make the net bigger [3] If you have to reduce goaltending equipment, work on enforcing or improving the rules to protect the goalies better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather see the size of the nets increase than see goaltender equipment size reduced.<br />
The article here explains one of the issues caused when the NHL changed knee pad stack size a few years ago [without researching the potential long-term impact]</p>
<p><a href="http://ingoalmag.com/news/butterfly-and-hip-injuries-backstrom-back-to-surgeon/" rel="nofollow">http://ingoalmag.com/news/butterfly-and-hip-injuries-backstrom-back-to-surgeon/</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how any of the GMs that have had their starting goaltenders injured this season would want to decrease the available protection for their star netminders in favor of higher scoring games. There&#8217;s talk of mandatory visor wear to protect skaters.  Some skaters [that don't wear visors] beleive the visor interferes with their vision [which could have an impact on their ability to score goals].  The league is OK with safety before scoring when it comes to visor wear.  When it comes to their goaltenders, somehow higher scoring takes precendece over protecting their goaltenders.  Where was the talk that should have gone with this topic regarding enforcing the rules to [or modifying ] pertaining to &#8216;making an effort to avoid hitting the goaltender].  They want to reduce the size of the goalie equipment but do nothing about players skating full speed into the net ?</p>
<p>I agree with Babcock about making the nets bigger if the league wants to see higher scoring,  I don&#8217;t particularly have an issue with the scoring [then again I live in Philadelphia so we tend to have very high scoring games].  However if the league is convinced that scoring is what&#8217;s needed to make the game better, I&#8217;d rather see the net size increase before they take away protection from goaltenders.  </p>
<p>Like it or not, the game is always changing, it&#8217;s evolved and whether larger nets are the right or answer may be up for debate, the &#8216;hockey purist&#8217; excuse isn&#8217;t really valid anymore.  Prior to 1918 goaltenders weren&#8217;t allowed to drop to their knees to stop pucks. [see Clint 'Praying Benny' Benedict] Are the hockey purists still debating this one?  While I&#8217;m not suggesting this is the solution, but f the goalies don&#8217;t need to go down anymore, they won&#8217;t need knee stack protection, so it&#8217;d be OK to reduce the equipment size.  And think how much scoring would be increased!  Getting rid of the 1918 rule allowing goalies to drop down when stopping pucks would make the hockey purists and NHL happy.  </p>
<p>My own personal suggestion is before they go around making the nets bigger, how about we get rid of the stupid trapezoid.  Goalies are already letting pucks in while running around outside the net, why not give them more freedom [Ha Ha Check out some of the KHL games where Pekka Rinne tried to play the puck in the corners...]  More often than not the goalies are going to screw up and there will be more goals.  It would also improve the game because in some cases, players may think about carrying the puck over the line rather than dumping it if they know there&#8217;s a goaltender that can play the puck on the other side.  With Carey Price and Mike Smith picking up puck handling skills like Brodeur, we&#8217;d likely see less dump and chase.  Which [to me] would improve the game more than increased scoring.  I&#8217;d rather watch a game where players are skillfully carrying the puck down the ice than spend 2 hours watching 10 guys chase a puck from end to end.  Let the goalies get the pucks in the corners.  That could even fix the icing issues.  Icing rules won&#8217;t matter if the goalies are goaling after the pucks and clearing the pucks out of the corners.  </p>
<p>If the trapezoid isn&#8217;t going away and/or doesn&#8217;t lead to the scoring solution the NHL is looking for, then I&#8217;m all for making the nets bigger.  Bigger nets might mean more skaters actually trying to shoot pucks into the net [instead of hannging around the net stabbing the goalie with their sticks looking for the puck for a trash goal].  I like to see goals scored by talented players who shoot the puck into the net.  Not by 10 guys scrambling on their hands and knees until [maybe?] the puck went over the line, followed by 10 minutes of reviewing replays to determine if there is &#8216;indisputable evidence to overturn the call [or non call] made on the ice. Then 20 minutes later hearing they decided the puck brushed by somebody else&#8217;s leg so they&#8217;re now credited with the goal.  It&#8217;s just luck [or Toronto's decision] at that point.  When the broadcaster isn&#8217;t sure if the puck went in and/or doesn&#8217;t know who may or may not have scored, that&#8217;s when player&#8217;s aren&#8217;t really using they&#8217;re hockey skills anymore.  With a bigger net, skaters will start relying on their ability to shoot pucks again instead of seeing who can shove the goaltender into the net while he may or may not be covering the puck so we can wait on the war room to let us know if it was a goal or not.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRWiwBEpV7k] is certainly entertaining, but I&#8217;m not 100% sure they&#8217;re playing hockey anymore.  </p>
<p>[1] Get rid of the trapezoid [2] Make the net bigger [3] If you have to reduce goaltending equipment, work on enforcing or improving the rules to protect the goalies better.</p>
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		<title>By: kingsforever</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Red Wings suck so much they couldn&#039;t even score with bigger nets]]></description>
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		<title>By: JoeAvg</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scoring is down because of coaching and the use of video. Every team has video personnel that scrutinizes the opposition and notes their tendancies. In the past this had to be done real time without the ability to rewatch and break down actions/reactions. Then it had to be relayed to the player verbally or at best with x&#039;s and o&#039;s. Now players can be sat down and shown what someone does when and the best way to stop it. And though it can work the work the other way to - how to beat a defense - it&#039;s much easier to teach someone how to defend than how to score, which is more af of an instict that a player either has or doesn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scoring is down because of coaching and the use of video. Every team has video personnel that scrutinizes the opposition and notes their tendancies. In the past this had to be done real time without the ability to rewatch and break down actions/reactions. Then it had to be relayed to the player verbally or at best with x&#8217;s and o&#8217;s. Now players can be sat down and shown what someone does when and the best way to stop it. And though it can work the work the other way to &#8211; how to beat a defense &#8211; it&#8217;s much easier to teach someone how to defend than how to score, which is more af of an instict that a player either has or doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: eigglesnosuperbowls</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bryz can&#039;t cover the net he has now !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryz can&#8217;t cover the net he has now !</p>
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		<title>By: sprtsfan1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait! I have a better idea. Lets have every team have a different sized net based on the size of their goalie. C&#039;mon now, we need to make the game fair!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait! I have a better idea. Lets have every team have a different sized net based on the size of their goalie. C&#8217;mon now, we need to make the game fair!</p>
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		<title>By: sprtsfan1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, there&#039;s already plenty of scoring in the NHL regardless of Goalie size or pad size. Anyone see the 8-1 clobbering of the Dallas Stars last Saturday? Nasty!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, there&#8217;s already plenty of scoring in the NHL regardless of Goalie size or pad size. Anyone see the 8-1 clobbering of the Dallas Stars last Saturday? Nasty!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sunderlanding</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THE GAME IS FINE QUIT TRYING TO CHANGE A PERFECTLY GOOD GAME!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE GAME IS FINE QUIT TRYING TO CHANGE A PERFECTLY GOOD GAME!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: 2qswing</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the answer
In the mid 90&#039;s metal baseball bats were at a point where a college or HS pitcher were going to get killed. Baseball demanded the makers &quot;dumb down&quot; the MOI on the bats and they did.

Goalie equipment is out of control too big. Modern catch gloves are rediculous.  Look at game film from the 70&#039;s even 80&#039;s. The goaltenders look like 14 yr old bantams. The net was the same size and there were plenty of hard shooters. Reduce the goaltender equipment AND get rid of the composite sticks.
The game will be just as exiting if Chara&#039;s slap shop is 93 mph instead of 108.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the answer<br />
In the mid 90&#8242;s metal baseball bats were at a point where a college or HS pitcher were going to get killed. Baseball demanded the makers &#8220;dumb down&#8221; the MOI on the bats and they did.</p>
<p>Goalie equipment is out of control too big. Modern catch gloves are rediculous.  Look at game film from the 70&#8242;s even 80&#8242;s. The goaltenders look like 14 yr old bantams. The net was the same size and there were plenty of hard shooters. Reduce the goaltender equipment AND get rid of the composite sticks.<br />
The game will be just as exiting if Chara&#8217;s slap shop is 93 mph instead of 108.</p>
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		<title>By: dan46778</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NHL wants to make money so making the rinks bigger is not going to hAppend even if the league wants more scoring or not]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NHL wants to make money so making the rinks bigger is not going to hAppend even if the league wants more scoring or not</p>
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		<title>By: richter35lundqvist30</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want a ton of insignificant scoring go watch basketball.]]></description>
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		<title>By: tlndma</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t agree with very much you say here. To get rid of the trap and teams backing into their goalies crease to block shots, you have to bring back the threat of longer shots going in. Defensemen would have to play the puck carrier earlier if he were a threat to score from the top of the circles or further. 
Goalie equipment is out of control with the size of the pads and gloves. Not only is it bigger but much of it is made squarer (flatter) to make it easier for the goalie to deflect the puck away. The catching glove for example used to look like a first baseman&#039;s mitt. Now they have a bigger glove as well as an extension from the thumb that goes up to the middle of the forearm that acts to block more of the net. It has to cover an extra Sq. Ft. of net. It has nothing to do with added protection.
Someone has to sit down and come up with better rules about the goalies equipment. Making the net a little larger may be required too. 
As far as Olympic size ice, it&#039;ll never happen. First I don&#039;t see it adding to scoring and secondly, you&#039;d have to take out a couple rows of seats, minimum. The most expensive seats, BTW. The Swedes and the Czechs were the first teams to trap. So I think that must be effective on the large ice too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with very much you say here. To get rid of the trap and teams backing into their goalies crease to block shots, you have to bring back the threat of longer shots going in. Defensemen would have to play the puck carrier earlier if he were a threat to score from the top of the circles or further.<br />
Goalie equipment is out of control with the size of the pads and gloves. Not only is it bigger but much of it is made squarer (flatter) to make it easier for the goalie to deflect the puck away. The catching glove for example used to look like a first baseman&#8217;s mitt. Now they have a bigger glove as well as an extension from the thumb that goes up to the middle of the forearm that acts to block more of the net. It has to cover an extra Sq. Ft. of net. It has nothing to do with added protection.<br />
Someone has to sit down and come up with better rules about the goalies equipment. Making the net a little larger may be required too.<br />
As far as Olympic size ice, it&#8217;ll never happen. First I don&#8217;t see it adding to scoring and secondly, you&#8217;d have to take out a couple rows of seats, minimum. The most expensive seats, BTW. The Swedes and the Czechs were the first teams to trap. So I think that must be effective on the large ice too.</p>
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		<title>By: judahbenhur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[judahbenhur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cut the pads down dramatically. The gloves and blockers could be half the size and goalie sticks could be smaller as well. The leg pads are way too big and go beyond protection. Do this and the net opens up fairly-- you won&#039;t need to make the net larger. But....... Make the rink 5 feet wider--add three feet behind each net-- make the goal six inches wider with reduced goalie pad size and you will create so much more offense that you will brings millions more fans to the game. That&#039;s always the biggest complaint from non hockey fans-- not enough offense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut the pads down dramatically. The gloves and blockers could be half the size and goalie sticks could be smaller as well. The leg pads are way too big and go beyond protection. Do this and the net opens up fairly&#8211; you won&#8217;t need to make the net larger. But&#8230;&#8230;. Make the rink 5 feet wider&#8211;add three feet behind each net&#8211; make the goal six inches wider with reduced goalie pad size and you will create so much more offense that you will brings millions more fans to the game. That&#8217;s always the biggest complaint from non hockey fans&#8211; not enough offense.</p>
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		<title>By: mizbinboston</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/20/babcock-advocates-bigger-nets/comment-page-1/#comment-152269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mizbinboston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol Seeing Kenny&#039;s pic and then Howie&#039;s...  It&#039;s like trying to sit at your old first grade desk and wondering when on earth it got so tiny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol Seeing Kenny&#8217;s pic and then Howie&#8217;s&#8230;  It&#8217;s like trying to sit at your old first grade desk and wondering when on earth it got so tiny.</p>
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		<title>By: gneds</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So using the theory about bigger goals for bigger goalies, wouldnt we have to make the rinks bigger as well to accomodate the larger players of today as well?

People complaining about needing more goals scored in hockey reminds me of the people who watch MMA just to see knockouts. Sure its exciting, but there is a lot more to hockey and MMA than goals and knockouts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So using the theory about bigger goals for bigger goalies, wouldnt we have to make the rinks bigger as well to accomodate the larger players of today as well?</p>
<p>People complaining about needing more goals scored in hockey reminds me of the people who watch MMA just to see knockouts. Sure its exciting, but there is a lot more to hockey and MMA than goals and knockouts.</p>
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		<title>By: dan46778</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should they change the size of the nets yea bc evolution game has changed For example the players r natural getting bigger strong faster the equipment has changed has well.... But the size of the nets should be a few inches wider n taller]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should they change the size of the nets yea bc evolution game has changed For example the players r natural getting bigger strong faster the equipment has changed has well&#8230;. But the size of the nets should be a few inches wider n taller</p>
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		<title>By: hockeydon10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeydon10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the cost. Much cheaper to get kids into basketball or soccer than it is for hockey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the cost. Much cheaper to get kids into basketball or soccer than it is for hockey.</p>
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		<title>By: lsxphotog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lsxphotog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate this argument. No. Do not change the nets. Goaltending has gotten bigger and better, so have players. Scoring is down because average skill level is up across the league more than it was 10, 15, and 20 years ago for players and goaltenders. Goalies have gotten incredible...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate this argument. No. Do not change the nets. Goaltending has gotten bigger and better, so have players. Scoring is down because average skill level is up across the league more than it was 10, 15, and 20 years ago for players and goaltenders. Goalies have gotten incredible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that goalies are coached from the time they step on the ice and are often the best skaters on their team nowadays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that goalies are coached from the time they step on the ice and are often the best skaters on their team nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: bleedingteal4life</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/20/babcock-advocates-bigger-nets/comment-page-1/#comment-152248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bleedingteal4life]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, what do you do when your team can&#039;t score??? Opt for bigger goals! Might help the sharks as well!  ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, what do you do when your team can&#8217;t score??? Opt for bigger goals! Might help the sharks as well!  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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