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Video: Suspendable hit? Flyers’ Brayden Schenn penalized against Devils

Mar 15, 2013, 11:19 PM EDT

Philadelphia Flyers forward Brayden Schenn was assessed a minor penalty for charging after a ferocious body check on New Jersey Devils defenseman Peter Harrold Friday night, but could he be looking at further discipline?

The hit took place below the New Jersey goal line with less than two minutes remaining in the third period of the Flyers 2-1 shootout victory.  From some angles on the replay, it’s hard to determine exactly where the principal point of contact is.

Schenn received a one-game suspension in January for a head shot to Devils’ defenseman Anton Volchenkov. It was the first suspension of the 2013 NHL season.

Due to that earlier ban, Schenn’s hit on Harrold “will draw attention of NHL’s Safety Dept.” Darren Dreger of TSN tweeted.

  1. mj1818 - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    Scum of the league year in and year out

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:22 AM

      Clean hit the dope jersey player turned around like he was playing by himself , this guy is lucky if scheen would have lowered his shoulder into his chest he might still be laying on the ice !

      • ravenscaps48 - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM

        One game because he launched

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:53 AM

        Your right they will go by the book on this but can you see what Iam sayin ?

  2. sjsharks66 - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    He has to get some sort of suspension. With the board against buffalo and now this. I say 3-4 games.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:19 AM

      The board against Buffalo was Luke. This was Brayden. 2 games at most.

      • jpelle82 - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:33 AM

        this isnt his first or second time around. this hit is the same thing that got him roughed up by asham last year in the playoffs. should get 3 games

      • tatdue - Mar 16, 2013 at 11:36 AM

        I agree with jpelle82, Schenn launched and targeted the head, and this is the type of hit that the league is trying to take out of the game. Brayden is a repeat offender so he is for sure getting three at least…

  3. Kristenaux - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    I think it’s a no-brainer. He aimed for Harrold’s number & left his feet to hit him into the boards. Both of these actions are a suspend-able infraction. At least two games. Schenn is more than a bit of an a$$ anyway.

    • hockinj25 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:37 AM

      Do you know where the numbers are?

  4. orangeandblack67 - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Well sharks, your post clearly shows you either can’t read or you are an Anti Flyers troll. Luke Schenn was the one in question for the hit in the Buffalo game and this thread is about Brayden.

  5. orangeandblack67 - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    And further more this is a prime example of leaving the ice after initial contact.

  6. luvusa1 - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    @mj1818: Look in the mirror and that is the true scum of the earth. Punk

  7. flyers22 - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Yeah and maybe carter could get something too for throwing his leg out on Rinaldo the other night…oh wait

  8. garryjercia - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    As a flyers fan, I feel that that hit was not only deserving of a fine & suspension, but also an incredibly stupid one. He hands the devils a power play for the last 1:38 of regulation in a ‘must win’ game. SMH
    Any chance they can send the brothers back to Toronto for JVR?

    • williplett - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:47 AM

      My thought exactly. It seemed incredibily stupid to pull that kind of stuff with less than two minutes left in a tied game when your team is nearing the desperation point in regards to making the playoffs.

      Also: Say what you will about the punishment the league is meting out this season, but Schenn left his feet, hit him around the head and he has a record. It seems like a game or two is reasonable. I’m sort of wondering how he only got two minutes.

  9. kgun80 - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    If he didn’t leave his feet it still would have been a big hit. The issue is he did leave his feet BEFORE the contact. They’ll definitely give the kid a fine or a couple games

    • holeecowman - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM

      wtf are watching it was after initial he left his feet

      • tatdue - Mar 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM

        Holy cow you’re high!

  10. aklolzer - Mar 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    cleanest hit of the year. Anyone else see the gambling addiction ad that came before the video. Actually cracked me up

  11. sjsharks66 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    My bad on mixing up the brothers. Does not take away from the fact he left his feet (before he made contact) and deserves a suspension.

    So both schenns have had dirty hits in a week. I think im fine with combining them as one dirty schenn. 😉

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:05 AM

      You need glasses sharky. You can lend your bifocals to the refs. Schenn left his feet due to the impact.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:28 AM

      Just noticed you corrected yourself so ignore my comment above. But saying these guys are dirty is inaccurate. When you are a physical player and you hit as many people as the Schenns, Simmonds, and Rinaldo, some are bound to be borderline. I think any NHL fan would take a power forward like Schenn or Simmonds on their team but because they are Flyers they are automatically considered dirty. That being said, Schenn deserves a game or two for this hit. Any more would be excessive.

      • huhsj - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:04 AM

        I would love to have Simmonds but I find the Schenns to be marginal players and wouldn’t really want them on my team.

    • melonheadsdaddy - Mar 16, 2013 at 6:18 AM

      Those cute little emoticons don’t help your argument. Or dissuade the fact that are indeed a flyer hating troll….but we appreciate and thank you for the support here at proflyertalk.

  12. broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Schenn didnt leave his feet till after contact from the impact. BS call. No suspension unless you are a Henguins troll.

    • pens5829 - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM

      You clowns called James Neal dirty, yet this isn’t worthy of a suspension? Take off your blinders.

  13. Stiller43 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    He left his feet before contact. It basically looked like a flying punch to the face. He should definitely have a hearing

  14. mclovinhockey - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    He left his feet, def a penalty. No injury and the hit was not cheap besides the leaving the feet. I would be shocked if the league suspended him after Ryan Carter did not even get a phone call for his knee last game…. Or for how Matt Niskanen did not get a phone call for his slew foot… Or for how Alferdson did not get a phone call for his double cross check to the face…. Then again that would all be based on if the league was consistent which we all know is not something they are.
    Usually I would say 1 game for the hit but by recent blown calls by the NHL mentioned above I will say 0

    • manchestermiracle - Mar 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM

      Right, because two wrongs make a right. Right?

      • mclovinhockey - Mar 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM

        I did not say two wrongs make a right. I said the league seems to be very inconsistent and I just think this will fall into no phone call category as well.

        I did not notice this until I was freeze framing but it was contact before leaving the feet. The NHL can not do anything about this with the current rule books cause its actually legal.

        I am shocked but its just the way Harrold was placed that made it look like he left his feet first.

  15. phillyphanatic77 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Can anyone tell me why Ryan Carter’s blatant knee on Rinaldo got no attention from the league office? But yet another Flyer gets an article basically about “the same old Flyers”? I am not disagreeing that this is a suspendable hit by Schenn, but no one calls out the Devils. No one even mentions it. There was clearly intent by Carter to stick his leg out and atleast trip Rinaldo. Can anyone deny that if it had been Rinaldo delivering that type of hit to Carter he’d have gotten a game misconduct and 2-4 games. It’s a blatant double-standard. Taylor Hall got 2 games for a similar knee, so where’s the hearing for Carter? I guess any type of shot you wanna take at Rinaldo is free game (blatantly dirty or not), but if Rinaldo breathes on a player it’s an automatic 10 minute misconduct. Where ya at Shannahan!?

    • cerealrapist - Mar 16, 2013 at 1:34 AM

      Cause Rinaldo isnt a hockey player. He’s lucky he knows how to skate.

      • flyers22 - Mar 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM

        False He hits like a truck and has drawn more penalties then he has taken this year you don’t believe me watch a game he draws at least 2 a game and they don’t post articles about the devils bc know one cares about them every article on this site is about the flyers or Pittsburgh just look at the comment sections other articles have like 5 comments then these ones have like 100 of just fans going back and forth at each other

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 16, 2013 at 4:26 AM

        It never fails on questions like this to have some Flyers hater provide absolutely no insight with typical stereotyped responses. Not only is Rinaldo a very good skater, but he has developed into an excellent contributor. There may be no one in the league who hits with the power and veracity of a Zac Rinaldo. The dude is maybe 5’8” 185lbs and he hits like he’s 6’5” 230. He’s become adept at drawing penalties, just like he did tonight, and he rarely gets called for ACTUAL penalties anymore. Tonight’s charging penalty was another example, in a long list, of Rinaldo being penalized simply because it says Rinaldo on the back of his jersey. He has become an integral part of the Flyers,whereas last season he was purely a useless goon. And what Carter did to him was easily suspension worthy. Like I said, If Rinaldo had pulled that move there’d be 3 PHT articles on whether he should be suspended, how long, and how typical for a Flyers player. The refs would’ve kicked him out of the game and he’d easily be suspended 2-3 games. But what punishment does Carter receive? Two minutes and a blind eye turned by Shanahan. It was a blatantly DIRTY shot that could have seriously injured a player. Just imagine it was Crosby who had been knee’d by Rinaldo, there’s no question there would have been, at the least, a hearing and an easy 2-4 game suspension. Not to mention everyone talking about the dirty old Flyers tactics. I’m tired of the double-standard. If Brayden Schenn deserves a suspension then so does Ryan Carter!

      • melonheadsdaddy - Mar 16, 2013 at 6:23 AM

        Phillyphanatic…well said. If Peoria would watch flyers games instead of posting the BS they “claim to know” they would see that Rinaldo has been a solid player this year. He’s already doubled his point output from last year…in half of a half of a season.

    • huhsj - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:06 AM

      Because it is an obvious conspiracy against the Flyers. Just like everything else bad that happens to the Flyers.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:23 PM

        Not saying it’s a conspiracy but I will atleast point out that borderline plays by the Flyers garner more attention than most teams. There hasn’t been a person on PHT who’s given me a reason why the Carter shot, which is far dirtier than this Schenn hit, has been completely brushed over by the league. How is it different than what Hall did to Clutterbuck? The only differences I can think of are it was delivered to a Flyer and it was Rinaldo. Therefore isn’t it fair to conclude that the Flyers receive preferential treatment (and not the good kind) from the league office?

      • manchestermiracle - Mar 16, 2013 at 3:24 PM

        I agree Carter got away with one, but when your team continues to celebrate being the Broad Street Bullies you really can’t complain when the league tends to focus more scrutiny on your club. Reputations are difficult to change.

  16. orangeandblack67 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    For more clarification check out the video on YouTube. Pause it at :37 seconds into the clip an you can clearly see that Schenn did not leave his feet before contact was made.

    • williplett - Mar 16, 2013 at 1:34 AM

      “It’s all wrong! You can’t do that!”

      • mclovinhockey - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:18 AM

        shockingly you are right. I really thought he left his feet prior to contact but it was after initial contact that he left his feet. I am shocked.

    • tatdue - Mar 16, 2013 at 11:59 AM

      orangeandblack67 – You are not looking at the right people moron…advance to 40 seconds in, and not only are the correct players in frame, but you can clearly see that Schenn left his feet prior to the hit! williplett loaded the video for your convenience and to mclovinhockey below you are just as burnt…

      • flyers22 - Mar 16, 2013 at 6:56 PM

        I stopped it right at 40 on that video and the contact is being made and his feet are on the ice his feet come up once contact is made complain all u want he’s not getting suspended

    • greenmtnboy31 - Mar 18, 2013 at 6:33 PM

      Actually at the :37 mark, Schenn isn’t even in the picture yet. It really doesn’t and shouldn’t matter if he left his feet before contact, he clearly left his feet while making contact. Guilty as charged, and you need an appointment with an eye doctor.

  17. mclovinhockey - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    I think Krist was talking about a different hit cause he nailed him in the logo on this one
    (By logo I mean his front, I think it was arms to shoulders but I would need to bring it up on my editing program to find out)

  18. orangeandblack67 - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Thank god none of you bone heads are league officials but then again they have not been doing a good job either.

  19. thehighcountrybear - Mar 16, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    A completely pointless hit made in the closing minutes of a tie game…? No injury no suspension following NHL criterion to the letter…still, a thorough bag-slapping from Laviolette would suit this kind of stupidity from a player who should know better.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:26 AM

      the highasakitecountryidiot

  20. 950003cups - Mar 16, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    The kid is in biiiiiiig trouble

  21. broadstreetbeatdown - Mar 16, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Screw it. Lets take hitting out of hockey since you pansies think every hit is dirty. You nancy boys should be baseball fans.

    • williplett - Mar 16, 2013 at 2:00 AM

      A number of very good players have had their careers interupted or ended prematurely because of concussions in recent years and a spate of enforcers died because of concussion related issues. The league is trying to find walk an uneasy line here. Why do you feel the need to be a total dick about it?

      • melonheadsdaddy - Mar 16, 2013 at 6:25 AM

        People like you make me hate my job. Did you take down your “holiday” tree yet?

      • williplett - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:29 AM

        melonheadsdaddy : My guess is that you hate your job regardless of what I think about this hit, the way the NHL doles out punishment on cheap shots and dangerous hits or what this super macho bro thinks about the reckless play of certain players in this league. Plus, unless you are Shanahan, Bettman or Schenn who the hell cares about your “job” in this situation?

  22. goobazooka - Mar 16, 2013 at 3:44 AM

    Do you people honestly think he left his feet before the hit? Jesus. Go break the video down frame by frame, hell, just pause it at the right time. It’s clear that his skates are on the ice when contact is made.
    From that point on it should only take a very, very basic understanding of physics and momentum to realize that a players feet are going to come off the ice AFTER a hit like that. The fact that some people think Schenn jumped into him is laughable.

    • williplett - Mar 16, 2013 at 4:09 AM

      Another game, it seems. Like it or not.

    • pwilson264 - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:54 AM

      ok Albert Einstein, if that was the case then every time a player but a forward momentum, like that forward momentum hit, on another player then they would leave their feet every time. it was a clear intent to hurt. oh time to go late for my physics class.

    • goobazooka - Mar 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM

      Click that thumbs down button all you want people, it doesn’t change the facts.
      Immediately before contact, both feet on the ice:
      Immediately after contact, both blades still touching the ice:

      Willi, I have no idea what your response is supposed to prove. I never claimed Schenn was the cleanest hockey player, nor did I say he’s never had any illegal hits before. I said he didn’t leave his feet before contact on THIS hit, and he didn’t. That fact isn’t changed by that previous hit.

      And Wilson, my goodness. What is that abortion of a first sentence even trying to say? Maybe you should hit up an English class or two first, then go to physics. I hope you are not trying to say that all hits are identical and they should all look like that, because the angle of contact can be different, you know?
      Schenn lifted off the ice after contact. I’m amazed at how low the percentage is of people who understand this. At least there are a few of you.

  23. illadelphiasphinest - Mar 16, 2013 at 3:58 AM

    Absolutly suspendable!!! And im a Flyers fan.

  24. cavafox - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    What a great video. Oh wait. Not posted in the app. At least start posting links to the video.

  25. cavafox - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    Now that I got a chance to look at it. Maybe a borderline charge. Hit was high but Schenn is much taller and was standing up vs leaning over. With no injury too, I see nothing coming of this.

  26. billsfan13594 - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Watch the angle at about :45 secs in the video. He doesn’t follow through at all; I think he’s leaving his feet as he trying to slow up and even avoid a dangerous check. It’s definitely a high hit and worthy of a penalty, but I don’t think there’s any chance he’s suspended.

  27. mancave001 - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    Looks like Shanahan is being fed by the trolls here, and will soon destroy hockey the way Goodell is screwing up the NFL.

  28. broadstbully33 - Mar 16, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    James Neal spent two periods the time he played Philly chasing around players heads. It was so blatant he was out to give someone a concussion he should have been suspended for intent. He is a scumbag

    • pens5829 - Mar 16, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      Look at your own team before commenting on James Neal. Schenn’s a repeat offender.

  29. georgejarkko - Mar 16, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    I just want to commend Philly fans for ALWAYS participating. Flyers stories are sure to generate discussion!

  30. andyreidisfat - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    He left his feet at about the same time as contact in this NHL that seems to at least get you 1 game.

    That being said this a clean hit IMO on a player who didn’t listen to his peewee coach and had his head down while turning around in the offensive zone . The guy deserved to get crushed. I am not sure it’s fair to blame any player who makes head contact with a guy looking at his skates. It’s why I never blamed Stevens or called his hit that ended lindross’s flyers career cheap or dirty, lindros put his face in his skates coming across the blue line …. You get killed if you do that.

    The NHL needs to take into account what the other player is doing when we see hits like this. Even thoughts will be suspended I am failing to see how it’s schenns. Fault the guy decided he could play hockey without looking where he was going.

    Overall probably a suspension, but definitely not a cheap or dirty hit.

  31. valoisvipers - Mar 16, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    He did not leave his feet until contact was made. No suspension.

  32. sleepers108 - Mar 16, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Yes man in this case 2 wrongs do make a right!

  33. bobhpine - Mar 16, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Phillyphanatic…. Veracity??? Are you sure

  34. orangeandblack67 - Mar 16, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Tatdue, you either need to wipe the man juice stains from your screen or need glasses.

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