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Video: The Crossover takes on fighting

Mar 7, 2013, 9:05 PM EDT

When people aren’t debating about mandatory visors, another big topic of discussion is the role of fighting in the NHL. In particular, observers wonder about the purpose of the “staged fight.”

Michelle Beadle and Dave Briggs discuss the subject in this “The Hype” segment from their new show “The Crossover.” They’re specifically inspired by Wednesday’s fight between Frazer McLaren and Dave Dziurzynski, which you can also see below.

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  1. r8rbhawk - Mar 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Funny, I just mentioned on a PHT story yesterday, since we are having the visor debate, when are we going to see the fighting debate articles, well here we have it…

  2. nunan - Mar 7, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    People are going to start relating fighting to the concussion issue, when 99% of concussions occur bc of hits, not fights. It will undoubtedly take that turn though. Fighting serves a purpose.

    • manchestermiracle - Mar 7, 2013 at 10:52 PM

      Please elucidate. Other than employing a hack to “stand up” for your side what possible purpose could it serve? Maybe if your players need a rest and you’re out of timeouts? There are plenty of options other than hockey if seeing people beat each other senseless is your bag.

      • nunan - Mar 7, 2013 at 11:11 PM

        This is where I think it’s a tough sell to some fans because there is a disconnect. Granted, I don’t play hockey for a living but most of us probably have played before. I know there is definitely a change in the dynamic of a game when it is so competitive that two players decide, in that moment, to drop the gloves. The staged fights between two talent-less players is one thing but a fight that is unplanned and just happens out of pure adrenaline or emotion does do something. It’s a pretty honest/natural event (vs staged fights) and I think the fans and players recognize that when it happens. For instance, when a player who doesn’t normally fight decides to go at it, that absolutely effects his teammates. It ups the emotion of the game. If two guys who play 4 minutes a night skate out and talk to each other before the puck drops, I think that has less effect, if any, on his team. The fans might like it for a minute but then they get over it. It’s why I’m not against weeding out the John Scott’s of the world.

  3. einjzmolf - Mar 7, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    I’d like to see fighting take on ‘The Crossover’. Show’s straight garbage, i don’t give it 6 months.

  4. csilojohnson - Mar 7, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    That is one of the worst shows I have ever wasted 10 minutes of my life on. Garbage

  5. thehighcountrybear - Mar 7, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    Man r8rbhawk, you should get your bad self down to the race track…you got de touch boyo!

    • r8rbhawk - Mar 7, 2013 at 10:11 PM

      ha! I guess the point is the sports media is predictable. The KO yesterday was all that was needed to spawn this debate. Just like the Staal injury was the catalyst for the visor discussion. Just surprising we get to both in the same week.

  6. manchestermiracle - Mar 7, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    The only thing more stupid than a player having his career ended due to a conscious decision to forgo proven safety gear is having players drop the gloves to partake in an activity that has nothing to do with the game. It’s childish, counterproductive, and nothing more than a display of “skills” unrelated to the game. Where do you think the joke “I went to a boxing match last night and a hockey game broke out” came from?

    • jpelle82 - Mar 8, 2013 at 10:37 AM

      please name a player whose career was ended due to a fight…i can think of one out in about 6000 in history

    • sunderlanding - Mar 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM

      Fighting is part of the game. If you knew anything about hockey and it’s history you would know that. Obviously you’ve just started watching the game, so you don’t understand it properly, but fighting is a part of hockey culture, and a part of what makes the game unique. Sure you don’t get a goal from having a fight, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t part of the game. Thinking that is just ignorant.

  7. sjsharks66 - Mar 8, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    @manchester

    You are completely wrong if you think fighting does not play a part in the game. Sticking up for your teammates and pumping the crowd up to gain an edge. Plus it is entertaining.

    Example is when Jumbo dropped the gloves with Benn. Listen to the dallas announcers. Even THEY knew what kind of moment was happening.

    • manchestermiracle - Mar 8, 2013 at 9:56 AM

      You mis-read my comment. I didn’t say it didn’t play a part in the game, I was trying to argue that I didn’t find it a positive part of the game. No other sport condones fisticuffs except those organized specifically for it. Every other sport is pretty strait-forward: You punch, you leave.

      If your team, or fans, need a couple of guys trying to crush each others’ faces to pump you up instead of generating excitement through good play, well, I feel sorry that your guys didn’t come to compete. Throwing your equipment aside in order to fight means you are no longer playing the game you’re out there to play, you’re just letting your frustrations and anger take you away from your task. I find that idiotic, but that’s just me.

      • jpelle82 - Mar 8, 2013 at 10:16 AM

        well it could be soccer instead where guys cry and writhe in pain when they fall on soft grass. where instead of being a man and standing up for a team mate with your fists in a mutual contest, guys in soccer will kick a guy in the shins or slide into his legs from behind and walk away like a little b. fighting regulates the game within the game.

      • sunderlanding - Mar 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM

        That’s what makes hockey so awesome. It’s the only organized team sport where fighting is allowed. You can watch a great game, and maybe a fight as well. This is part of hockey culture, and also part of what makes hockey unique. When you fight you are playing hockey because that is a part of what makes hockey hockey. Just because every other sport doesn’t have fighting doesn’t mean hockey should follow. If you don’t like it go watch those other sports. Hockey is for the people who want to watch a sport with fights. Quit trying to make hockey more like every other organized sport, and let it be it’s own thing.

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