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Mar 3, 2013, 3:19 PM EST

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The Detroit Red Wings pushed the Chicago Blackhawks – and their two impressive streaks – to the limit on Sunday, but Chicago managed a 2-1 shootout win.

They increased their NHL record point streak to start a season at 22 games and tied the 1977-78 Montreal Canadiens with their 28th game with at least one point (extending back to the end of last season) in the process. Let’s get to the talking points:

  • Patrick Kane scored the game-tying goal and shootout winner. Where does he rank among the NHL’s elite?
  • Some might be upset that a delay of game penalty opened the door for Kane to score on the power play. Does that over-the-glass automatic minor need to go or is it a necessary evil?
  • When’s the last time you saw a better 2-1 game? Many said it and it’s true: Sunday presented a real “playoff atmosphere.”
  • Marian Hossa hit regular season game 1,000. How many do you expect him to finish with?
  • Can Chicago catch the 1979-80 Philadelphia Flyers at 35 consecutive games with at least one point? Which opponents represent the biggest threats?
  • Speaking of threats, should the ‘Hawks cross their fingers that they don’t draw Detroit in the playoffs? The Red Wings clearly gave them a challenge.
  1. jimw81 - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Not to brust everyone’s bubble but during the Flyers record during unbeaten streak 25W- 0L-10T The Blackhawks record during this current steak, they already have 3 SO/OT LOSSES. so basically it’s a Invalid streak. The only thing that is saving this streak is the circus after overtime that bettman put into the game.

    • comeonnowguys - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:32 PM

      Look it up. Then type.

      Actually, the only reason they have those OTL’s are BECAUSE of that circus. None of the losses actually came during overtime, they came from the shootout.

    • bhawksrule - Mar 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

      Ouch jimw81! comeonnowguys just owned you

    • rarelyshaves - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:36 PM

      Also remember that they put OT in place to stop ties at all, so all OTL can be converted into ties

    • r8rbhawk - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

      jimw81 may have set the record for ratio between thumbs up to thumbs down. As I am typing this he is getting killed, 1 thumb up, 59 thumbs down. The 1 thumb up is likely his own…Clearly not a well thought out post by jimw81.

      • jimw81 - Mar 3, 2013 at 8:32 PM

        the streak isn’t legit. 3 ot losses in the shootout shouldnt count as points. the shootout is a circus to keep people interested in the game and was put in by bettman to turn the game into a joke. It has to a larger extent as turned off the hardcore hockey that was watching it since the early days. As a hockey fan from the 80’s, i don’t see this a legit streak. a team that loses in regulation or overtime shouldn’t be rewarded.

      • reggie dunlop - Mar 3, 2013 at 10:45 PM

        how can jimw81 say the streak isn’t legit? what am i missing? the hawks have ZERO ot losses. without the shootout, they have 3 games that ended in ot ties. and if you go back far enough to invoke old rules they would have been 3 games that ended as regulation ties.

    • yankeehawk - Mar 4, 2013 at 12:06 PM

      yeah…and I wonder how many of those 10 ties could have been lsses for Philly if there was OT back then…

  2. ravenscaps48 - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    Good play by Ericsson at the end of regulation……..

    • misterchainbluelightning - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM

      Quincy followed it up with a sweet one as well

      • letsgopens8771 - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM

        Actually it was Kronwall who took the 2nd penalty. Still, those Delay of game calls are killers and the Hawks made ‘em pay.

      • torrigjp - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM

        letsgopens8771 – Mar 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM
        Actually it was Kronwall who took the 2nd penalty. Still, those Delay of game calls are killers and the Hawks made ‘em pay.

        he’s talking about that great slap shot clearing attempt

    • polegojim - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:31 PM

      Yes, I’m mad.

      Pathetic first two periods by Detroit…. PATHETIC. Show up for only one period – you lose!

      I don’t care how ‘close’ the game was… they did EXACTLY what they COULD NOT DO…

      SOFT on the boards and puck
      STUPID penalties from the first period to the last – thanks for helping them tie the game
      Franzen NEVER showed up…
      HORRIBLE turnovers…. Kindl, Franzen, Quincy
      Ericsson and Kronwall… PUKE – brains fell out onto the ice when they needed them the most.

      Final Rant:
      1) I’ve just about seen all the Justin Abdelkader I care to – trade him
      2) Somebody needs to show Franzen his balls… he’s OBVIOUSLY misplaced them. Wings are better without him right now. Keep Cleary in front of the net and send Mule to 4th.

  3. bringbackthevipers - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    The Blackhawks haven’t lost in regulation or overtime yet, so given the same rules as the 79-80 Flyers, Chicago would still be at 28. Do you think the Flyers would have won all ten of their shootouts had they taken place after five minutes of overtime?

  4. puckmepuckyou - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Every streak comes with lucky bounces the delay of game penalty was luck for sure. Ties gained a point per team then and a OT loss does the same now so I guess they both count equally. But I agree Flyers went without a loss.

  5. blackhawks1982 - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    All you Philly fans can take your streak and shove it!! Remember the 4 important games you lost in 2010 for the cup? Who did you guys lose to anyway?

  6. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Kane doesn’t rank, unless you include petty theft and assault by a millionaire perpetrated on a cabbie at near minimum wage in the table?

    Delay of game should only be called if team and player are under pressure in own zone.

    Good game no doubt…Hawks got sucked into speed game and were weak-kneed in the third. Five on five they prove vulnerable against an American League lineup…what’s with that? Ducks and Canucks will bury them in any extended series…not enough real muscle and continually out coached as they were again today.

    Hossa’s a fragile diving ponce who’s well past his sell-by-date…over-rated inside Chicago, laughed at outside Chicago. Canucks were righteous in their outrage when Hossa went down like he took a nine millimetre parabellum in the brain pan!

    No…Hawks demonstrated today why the Flyers’, a vastly superior and more dominating franchise in the day, will see their record stand. Book it…

    The Hawks fear no other team more than they fear Wings…the Wings have a long-term lease inside the Hawks’ heads. Hawks will likely bow-out in the first round after fading badly in the stretch. Toews will be out with a season ending injury, Kane will disappear yet again, and Hossa…where’s Hossa, anybody seen Marian? Shallow depth otherwise, and no one left to pick up the slack…

    Enjoy the run Hawks, but all good things got to come to an end…

    • comeonnowguys - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM

      I bet you kick puppies just to see how far they fly. :)

      • mizbinboston - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM

        I’m going to h.ell for laughing at this but I can’t stop.

    • hawksandsawx - Mar 3, 2013 at 4:17 PM

      Didn’t the Canucks lose 8-3 to the team the Hawks just beat? You know what they say about glass houses

    • toews19cup - Mar 3, 2013 at 4:23 PM

      You’re living in the past. And your team isn’t as good as they used to be….And with 4 points separating four to 12 in the playoff chase, you’re not a lock yet.

      • dtownbeatdown - Mar 3, 2013 at 11:11 PM

        toews19cup… if you are referring to the wings as not being as good as they used to be then what does it say about your team. Because your team no doubt is doing amazing things. But to have a sub-par wings team give you your hardest run for your money this season says more to me then anything. Our vetrans are streaky and most will be gone in the next 5 seasons, but our young talent is arising to the occasion, and that says volumes, especially since the salary cap lowers next year to 63 mil, so you will have to get rid of some of your core 8. This is your last chance to win a cup in a long time… good luck with that. But a Blackhawks fan to discredit the wings is mind blowing since your fan base used to be a joke like 5 seasons ago. Nobody is living in the past, history is history, 11 cups to 4; 389 wins to 311; 21 straight playoff seasons with 4 cups to your 28 straight playoff seasons and no cups. Look how the Nhl was started, organized professional hockey was started in Michigan, which later turned/inspired the creation of the NHL. Hockey has deep roots here… So yea we get a bit sensitive.

      • clefty1 - Mar 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

        Towes19cup, every team goes through a transition period which the Wings are going through now with the loss of 3 of their top 4 defensemen over the past couple of seasons that would hurt any team plus the Wings have delt with the most man games lost to injury in the league and the Hawks have not delt with any large injuries as of yet. Here is a reality check for you a good portion of Hawks fans are bandwagoners because not to long ago your Hawks could not even draw 7,000 people to some games and the only time they would sellout is when the Wings came to town add into those bad years you get to draft players like Towes and Kane, the Wings have made the playoffs 21 straight years and they have drafted low with some years not even having a first round pick, that shows how good the Wings scouting staff is.

  7. comeonnowguys - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    This is one of the few times I would even consider going to the old blink tag.

    #1: Going back to last year, all losses on the streak were from shootouts. They played 60, then 5, then the skills competition.

    #2: Forget shootouts, OVERTIME wasn’t even introduced until 1983-84. The Flyers played 60, then got a point.

    Debate the lucky bounces and things that factor into any streak, but can we at least settle on these as given?

  8. puckmepuckyou - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Yep agreed

  9. dadawg77 - Mar 3, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Rules have changed on how games end since the Flyers streak. The only comparable point end of regulation. Hence measuring the streak from there is valid.

  10. toews19cup - Mar 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    The Blackhawks have had many close games. This will serve them well come playoff time. As long as the streak continues, they continue to get a team’s best effort. And like today, the Blackhawks find a way to win. Detroit was super tough, but they’re no lock to make the playoffs. Looking at the Western Conference as of last night, there’s the Hawks and Ducks, but then it all bunches up, SIX points separates TEN teams.

  11. 8man - Mar 3, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Just amazing stuff in Chi-cah-go!

  12. icewalker946 - Mar 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    I have not watched a hockey game this year. Really, it’s been awhile. After seeing a write up on this page I though I’d give it a try again.

    Boy, what a game.

    I had no dog in the fight (I grew up in Milwaukee and live in North Carolina now) but I wanted to dig my goalie gear out after the game (which I haven’t used in maybe 4 years and not in a ‘game’ for 14 years). Back and forth, great skills from everyone (I don’t see the ‘left wing lock’ or bigger D out there like years past) and I yelled out quite a few times after some great saves by the goalies (and the post!).

    I will be watching more games in the future. Just don’t have another work stoppage within the next 10 years, NHL. You have a great game. Quit screwing it up.

  13. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Streaks make good copy, and they sell beer, pizza, Timmy’s and EDS products…? What did the Wings’ home winning streak get them last year…WWF rules in the playoffs v Predators and an early exit. What you want is a streak come playoff time, ability to overcome an ever variable NHL rulebook given to advancing impotent and struggling franchises, Canadian teams generally and California teams, and a massive dose of lucky goal tending; on balance, everything else is equal. If statistics were of consequence, the Vancouver Canucks would have sixteen Cup banners, and their fans would be even more revolting than they already are. After Wings, I heartily support Hawks, but spare me the histrionics claiming them to be a dominating team…ain’t no such animal in today’s game.

    • tbeilfuss - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM

      If they aren’t a dominating team, then everyone must be bad and they are average.

  14. eastcoastwingette - Mar 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Kyle Quincy was definitely one of the best players on the ice today for the Hawks.

    • mizbinboston - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM

      Holy… a fellow New Englander Wings fan!

  15. dtownbeatdown - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Detroit fan, and regardless of the loss I wish all games had that much intensity. Can’t deny the Blackhawks look great. It’s good to see them get their fan base back. Besides the fact that I hate them, what they are doing is great for hockey after this lock out set back.

    • tbeilfuss - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:13 PM

      Agreed. If you were the NHL Office, I honestly don’t know what you could have drawn up that would have had fans forgetting about the LO better than the Blackhawks going on this kind of run.

      1. They recently won the cup so their core of 8 are well-known by even casual hockey fans.
      2. 3rd largest hockey market (not saying fanbase but market)
      3. They have fans/advertisers that have money to spend due to the failures of the other teams in town not coming through.
      4. They have a young and excited core (save Hossa) that the kids now-a-days are following (along with others around the league)

      Remember, the Blackhawks tied 3 playoff games with the net empty last year, they never give up and if you add in the playoffs, the Blackhawks havent lost in regulation but ONCE.

  16. tbeilfuss - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Oh, btw, The Blackhawks aquired Johnny Oduya on Feb 27th last year………and they are 31-2-7 in regulation since they got him in one calendar(LO shortened) season

  17. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    You offer a perspective on Hawks’ streak presuming league-wide interest…? Sadly, in the most advanced and infinitely larger Canadian hockey market [ country-wide versus city-wide ], the streak is page eighteen material. Not because it is not worthy, but because it doesn’t involve a Canadian team. Sorry girls, that’s just the way it is…

    • comeonnowguys - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:48 PM

      Holy cow, I just figured out who you were!

      (Super SFW)

    • tbeilfuss - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:05 PM

      Really? go look at the frontpage of tsn.ca……..goof

      • tbeilfuss - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:10 PM

        Nevermind, i screen capped it for you……..https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LVF-r7bQBUY/UTPYK1xiw4I/AAAAAAABi2g/UsrXjEUTja0/s886/Screenshot+from+2013-03-03+17%3A08%3A52.png

  18. blackhawks1982 - Mar 3, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    @gaycountrybear How many cups has Vancouver won? You should put a diaper on your mouth with all the crap coming out of it!

  19. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Vancouver has one Cup win, though it occurred pre NHL. NHL era: Montreal…23; Toronto…13; Detroit…11; Boston…6; Edmonton…5; Chicago…ahem, 4? With all the wind coming out of the windy city, one would have thought the Hawks were up there with the big boys? Relax, at the rate Hawks win Cups, the next one is right around the corner…in the post apocalyptic year 2059?

    • comeonnowguys - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM

      This feels like the Cincinatti Red Stockings bragging about being good before Major League Baseball. Regardless, 0 cups for the Canucks.

      Thanks for playing. You may return to watching The Karate Kid and rooting for the Cobra Kai dojo.

    • blackfoot11 - Mar 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM

      Who cares how many Cups a team has won. Good hockey is good hockey, and the ‘Hawks are playing damn well right now. Yes, they are catching breaks, but what teams doesn’t have some luck with a streak like this. The streak might not have as much luster as the “79-80 Flyers because this short season is in-conference play only, but this feat is fun to watch as a hockey fan.

  20. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    TSN, referred to as the Toronto Sports Network is by definition a regional network. I live in a part of the world where people still read and think, for themselves…we hardly need some clapped-out hockey player to help us form opinion. You should try it…

    • tbeilfuss - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM

      how about nhl.com’s front page? would that be considered the “league office”?

  21. letsgopens8771 - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Awesome game. I think that was the best game I have ever seen Corey Crawford play. That was a straight-up goalie Showdown. Kane is just amazing. I guess Jimmy Howard didn’t watch Kane’s other shootout goal vs. Nick Backstrom cause the one today looked just like it. Great game. I don’t care what anyone says about the shootout, shootouts are exciting and I love to see them.

  22. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    That headline will vanish as soon as soon as the latest Senators’ disaster gets put to copy, it being replaced by Canucks getting blown-out by Flames. In the meantime, some allegory…

    http://www.myspace.com/steveo05196/photos/1991198

    • alexbaymac - Mar 4, 2013 at 12:30 PM

      Wow. Let it go, bud…loosen up before you stroke out. Maybe try decafe for a couple days…
      I hear the Country Bear Jamboree at DisneyWorld is very relaxing; try it!

    • shorttracknews - Mar 4, 2013 at 2:05 PM

      What in the hell is MySpace????

  23. rgledz - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    @highcountrybear……you couldn’t scream envy and jealousy any louder than you are right now. Your team is of interest to the people of Vancouver…..nobody else cares. The only history that your team makes is it’s epic history of failure. It’s amazing that you scoff at the 4 cups that the Hawks have won when your trophy case is empty. When your team actually wins a big game and Luongo doesn’t choke it away…get back to us. Until then….Go Hawks!!

  24. wethog66 - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Impressive streat, there is no doubt, but just like when a team wins the Presidents Trophy, if they don’t win the Cup the significance of this achievment is diminshed.

  25. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    rgledz: My team has eleven Cups in its cup cupboard, and it has rafters cluttered and messy with championship banners and the retired numbers of the league’s greatest players. No need for envy at all, screamed or whispered, we’re too assured for all of that really…

    • comeonnowguys - Mar 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM

      Really? Then I give up. What makes you such a miserable old coot who, judging from your comments today, would seem to root for the corner stool in Million Dollar Baby, the rabies in Old Yeller and the local radio station to play Nickelback?

      Do you need a hug? Is that all it is?

  26. wingsandthings19 - Mar 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Great game by both sides until the dumb late penalties. Hats of too Crawford and to Hawks.

  27. wingsandthings19 - Mar 3, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    off*

  28. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    The article asked readers to discuss a number of points related to the game; I gave my honest opinion on each point, presuming a right to freedom of speech? Then a number of wet-behind-the-ears wankers [ chained to their computers in the basement because their inbred parents couldn’t imagine seeing their half-wit spawn engaging civilized discourse in a world beyond world of warcraft in a darkling basement ] responded with juvenile snot-nosed drivel attacking the messenger rather than the message. Take your hand out of your pants, take a shower if your house has running water, return to your shackled hideaway, apply both hands to the keyboard, then answer the questions posed in the article. It’s easy…

    • comeonnowguys - Mar 3, 2013 at 11:46 PM

      Actually, it’s not the messenger. It’s the messenger’s message.

      It’s funny to me that you went to the “inbred children in their basement” chestnut, especially given your post @ 3:48 p.m. If that doesn’t reek of immature and petulant denial in the face of the reality that, while yes, Chicago has been on the receiving end of some breaks, they are not some bumbling team of retreads that just stumbled their way to this streak.

      It’s my honest opinion that your honest opinion will never give Chicago any credit, even in the absolutely absurd and win out and go 16-0 in the playoffs. So be it.

      P.S. That attempt to defend Nickelback was awesome. And not in the way you probably wanted.

  29. blackhawks2010 - Mar 3, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    Great game by both goalies. Hawks should of scored 3 or 4 over first 2 periods, Howard kept the Wings in this one. Hawks will be tough to beat in a 7 game series with their 4 lines and D.

    • dtownbeatdown - Mar 3, 2013 at 10:34 PM

      Yea and 3 or 4 should of went in on Crawford in the 3rd, 33 shots to 33 shots. We out shot you in the 2nd and 3rd, and Crawford was standing on his head just as much as Jimmy was in the 1st, great goalie match up, great game. I really hope this rivalry doesn’t go away next season.

  30. thehighcountrybear - Mar 3, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Nickleback:

    Nickelback is one of the most commercially successful Canadian groups, having sold more than 50 million albums worldwide and ranking as the eleventh best-selling music act, and the second best-selling foreign act in the U.S. behind the Beatles, of the 2000s. Billboard ranks them the top rock group of the decade, and their hit song “How You Remind Me” was listed as the top rock song of the decade and the fourth song of the decade. They were listed number seven on the Billboard top artist of the decade, with four albums listed on the Billboard top albums of the decade.

    • dtownbeatdown - Mar 3, 2013 at 10:17 PM

      You can polish a turd, but it is still a turd man. Just let the NUCKS.

      • dtownbeatdown - Mar 3, 2013 at 10:20 PM

        Like* If I get bashed on a sports blog for grammar I am going to go nuts. Just like the NUCK fans did in 2011.

    • alexbaymac - Mar 4, 2013 at 12:33 PM

      If I give you a nickel back, will you shut up?

  31. bensawesomeness - Mar 3, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Jimmy Howard once again showing his stuff on national TV, way to go, Jimmy

  32. dtownbeatdown - Mar 3, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    I thought this article was for respected hockey teams, who let the NUCK fan in. GOD DAMMIT!

  33. thehighcountrybear - Mar 4, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    No! Just serving you up a taste of what you dish out…how does it taste?

    Cry baby cry
    Make your mother sigh
    She’s old enough to know better
    So cry baby cry cry cry cry baby
    Make your mother sigh

    I couldn’t name a Nickleback tune if my life depended on it, but they’ve done rather well coming as they do from a tiny prairie town in filthy rich Alberta. As far as I’m concerned, rock and roll quit producing anything original after the Beatles and certainly after the premiere of Saturday Night Fever. New wave, punk and grunge did its best, but the mindless repetition and techno-slop served up today is just that…

    Ditto the hockey. Advancements in equipment, use of helmets, and small rinks have ruined the game. Was a time when every team had two or three players of Datsyuk’s ilk. Now, you just need to be big, dirty, and willing to give your brain to science by the time you reach forty five. I miss old time hockey and I miss caning in the schools, the world is sorrier for the loss…

  34. indianhead1992 - Mar 4, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    To all the Red Wings that are making comments such as (the hawks had a tough time with a bad red wings team) or (you guys almost lost to the grand rapids griffins), just shut your mouth. Their are 3 good reasons why those are ridiculous comments to make about this game and Blackhawk team.

    1) The Hawks have a target on their back now since this streak has become so big and headline news. Every team plays Chicago as if it is a playoff game.
    2) It is a Blackhawks, Red Wings game! Every game since I can remember have been like playoff games. No matter who is better in the standings, those games are always tough and good games.
    3)Its the NHL! Any team can win on any night. No game is easy, all of them are tough games.

    When the Red Wings were on that home winning streak last year, I was not saying oh they almost lost the islanders or columbus at home. I was rooting for them (unless they were playing the Hawks of course) to keep it going. I was mad that Vancouver ended that streak but hell they played their tale off and should not take anything away from the wings during those 20+ no matter who they played.
    As a Blackhawks fan, I know this streak is going to end sooner rather than later, so let us enjoy the ride while it lasts. We need a lose in regulation so they can get that out of their way and just focus on the cup. I am affraid of these games coming up with the Avs but no matter what happens and who we loose too, it was fun!

    GO HAWKS 19-0-3!

    • dtownbeatdown - Mar 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM

      As a Wings fan I disagree (SHOCKER!) I think Chicago needs to keep winning, the longer the streak goes the more people are interested in the game we all love to watch and bicker back and forth about. And I did say that Chicago beat a mediocre Wings team because one of the blackhawks fans referenced it. It is true, we are not the same team, if you were a wings fan you would understand. It says more to me that our rookies/young talent, and streaky veterans at best could keep up with your squad. I hate the blackhawks, but always respect them. But for some of your fans it is hard for me to respect.

  35. jpat2424 - Mar 4, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    Hey country bear ” SHUT UP”!!

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