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Devils coach: Elias is a Hall of Famer

Feb 21, 2013, 12:04 PM EDT

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Will Patrik Elias one day make the Hockey Hall of Fame?

According to his head coach, it’s not even a question.

“I don’t think there is any doubt he’s a Hall of Fame player,” Devils bench boss Pete DeBoer told the New Jersey Star-Ledger. “It’s a great luxury to have him on the ice and in the dressing room. He thinks like a coach and he has a world-class player’s skills.

“When you’re building a hockey player, you can’t ask for much more than that.”

Let’s take a look at Elias’ resume:

— 1058 games played: 365G-548A-913PTS
— Two Stanley Cups (’00, ’03)
— Two Stanley Cup finals (’01, ’12)
— Three All-Star appearances
— 1998 All-Rookie 1st Team
— 2001 NHL 1st All-Star team
— Olympic Bronze (’06)
— New Jersey’s all-time leader in goals, points.

Elias’ point total might work against him, but statistical evidence shouldn’t keep Elias out of the Hall, according to DeBoer.

“Absolutely not. There is a reason why winning follows certain players around. It’s not an accident and it’s not situational,” DeBoer explained. “When you are around Patrik every day you see not only why he has won, but why he’s been a key part of this organization winning over the last decade.”

For opinions on Elias’ Hall of Fame chances from Butch Goring, Peter Mahovlich, Martin Brodeur, Denis Potvin and Ilya Kovalchuk, check out Rich Chere’s piece in the Star-Ledger.

  1. govtminion - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Tough one. Like the article said, his stats don’t help him much. The other accolades though make it hard to refuse him. I’d say borderline either way, but my bet is he gets in- maybe not first-year, but at some point.

  2. mydadyourmom - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Absolutely. Great player.

  3. isithockeyseasonyet - Feb 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    I think he deserves to be in, he’s been tormenting my team as long as he’s been in the league, wasnt the main reason they won 2 cups but probably the best offensive player during their cup runs

    • thecheeman - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:25 PM

      He’s the defining offensive player of the Devils dynasty. It would be weird if three cups produced HOF resumes for Stevens, Niedermayer, Brodeur and nobody else especially since the 2000 team was a high scoring squad.

      I would think that anyone outside the Patrick/Atlantic divisions though might have a hard time understanding Elias’s greatness.

      • misterchainbluelightning - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:39 PM

        Devils never had a dynasty, and Neidermayer was the defining offensive player.
        Nobody in the hockey world outside of Jersey even acknowledged the Devils as a dynasty.

        Devil fans = Jets fans

      • thecheeman - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM

        Three cups and four finals in nine years and the Devils are not only not a dynasty but they’re essentially the same as the New York Jets? I’ll check your doucheapedia page for your proper definition of a dynasty if you send me the link.

      • misterchainbluelightning - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        9 years, a cup win in year 1, 6 and 9 of those years, the first winner and then 5 years later a another? Sorry no, the best you can come up with is the 4 year stretch with 2 wins and a finals. But 4 years doesn’t make a Dynasty unless you’re the Islanders or Oilers.

        Also there are only room for one dynasty during the same period of time. There is no such thing as 2 dynasties running concurrently. And if there was a Dynasty, it was in Detroit.

      • thecheeman - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM

        I don’t know where you get the rule there can’t be more that one dynasty at a given point in time.

        Devils/RedWings/Avalanche all overlapped

        You also shouldn’t downplay the extent of how good the Devils were that the NHL actually had to change a bunch of rules to break up the dominant style the Devils mastered. No more illegal two line passes so the trap couldn’t lock you down, no playing the puck outside the trapezoid so Brodeur couldn’t neutralize the other team’s dump and chase game, etc… Whatever effects this had on the game’s popularity is another issue, but the Devils had built an organization to play a certain way and dominate and then we had a strike and a drastically changed style of play brought in.

      • seanaveryrules - Feb 21, 2013 at 3:15 PM

        the “dynasty” of the Devils might be the most embarrassing “dynasty” in all of hockey…IF you even want to call it that…

  4. phillyphanatic77 - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Based solely on his production against the Flyers I’d put him in. Been dominating Philly for two different eras of Devils hockey. I still have nightmares of the NJ squad with Stevens, Niedermayer, Rafalski, Sykora, Arnott, Langenbrunner, Holik, Mogilny, Brodeur, etc. Damn those were good teams.

  5. thecheeman - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    I’d also like to point out that Elias has played under FOURTEEN different head coaches (counting the recurrence of a coach as separate instances) for the Devils. It’s an amazing amount of turnover for a consistently great franchise. Elias has thrived through all of them and I can’t recall him ever complaining.

  6. misterchainbluelightning - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Is this a joke? So Gary Roberts is a HoF’er too? I guess Ray Whitney is too, So why isn’t Rich Tocchet is as well? Oh no rings for Rich? KK But Gary and Ray both have more points and have rings, there’s even a Conn Smyth in there. So who else gets a pass into the hall alongside the greats? I guess we should start the Kirk Muller debate as well, Paul Kariya, Brian Propp, Ray Ferraro, and Brian Bellows.

    Not even a 1000 points and never was a top 3 player ON HIS OWN TEAM. But he was the 4th-5th best player on a couple cup winning teams…1st team all star ONCE, EVER.
    Holy mother of God and you people actually say yes? LMAO It can’t be said enough, the “cluelessness” of some people here totally boggles the mind.

    • misterchainbluelightning - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:41 PM

      And before some fool tries to say otherwise, Marty, Niedermayer and Stevens, 1 ,2 and 3 better and the only true HoFers from those Devil teams.

      • idonthavethebloodyoucrave - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM

        Meh, more undeserving players have gotten into the Hockey HoF. Take Mike Richter as a prime example. The guy has a career GAA of nearly 3 goals a game, a slightly above average save percentage of 91, only won 43 more games than he lost, and never even won a Vezina.

      • misterchainbluelightning - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM

        Richter isn’t in the Hall
        And Elias would have 100 points less than any Forward already in the Hall

      • misterchainbluelightning - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM

        Oh except Bure, who played only 700 games

      • idonthavethebloodyoucrave - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM

        Richter is in the U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame. Class of 2008.

  7. biffnasty - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    absolutely not..

  8. devilsarethebest - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Elias still has a few years left in him and by the end of his career he’ll be well over 1000 points. You cannot say a player does not have enough points years before his career is over. He produced well over his career and is definitely a HOFer.

  9. thehighcountrybear - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Without question…perennial factor in Devils’ successes. A model player by any man’s standard…

  10. dipspit55 - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Misterchainbluelightning sucks weiners

  11. ydj1120 - Feb 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    haha you have to love delusional ranger fans who can’t admit a good player played/still plays for their rivals. put your blinders back on and go back to msg and sit next to some suit who can’t even tell you 5 guys on the team.

  12. lateralous - Feb 21, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Elias is one of the most underrated players of the last 20 years. He WAS the main offense force on those Devils juggernauts that finished at or near the top of the league in scoring in 2000-2001.

    There’s a reason the NHL is littered with guys who had career years and recieved some huge contracts playing on a line with him. Sykora, Arnott, Gomez, Gionta, looking like Clarkson this year, etc.. Definitely deserves to get in.

    He would be over 1000 points already if not for losing 1 1/2 years to lockouts and another half a season to Hep. The season he came back from being sick he had 45 points in 37 games and was absolutely dominant.

  13. hockeydon10 - Feb 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    No chance he makes it in.

    Regardless of what justification his fans make on these boards, the HHOF Committee will never admit him.

    And even if the argument have merit, the waiting list for players better than him that haven’t yet made it in would push his induction out years and years.

    While I’m not a Devils fan, nor an Elias fan, I appreciate his play when I’ve gotten to see it. He’s good, but not good enough to get voted in. Kinda like Chris Osgood; good player, probably not good enough to get voted in.

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