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Fraser: I’d be surprised if Hansen suspended for Hossa hit; Olcyzk: I’d be surprised if he’s not

Feb 20, 2013, 2:49 PM EDT

Hansen hit

A former NHL referee and player have weighed in on Jannik Hansen‘s hit on Marian Hossa during Chicago’s 4-3 shootout win over Vancouver on Tuesday night — and, unsurprisingly, the two see things differently.

Kerry Fraser said he’ll be taken aback if Hansen is suspended for his hit on Hossa.

“Stranger things have happened but I would be surprised if Hansen receives a suspension on this play,” Fraser wrote in his most recent TSN mailbag. “I have seen far worse hits that have gone unpunished this season.”

Meanwhile, former Blackhawk and current NHL on NBC analyst Ed Olczyk told a Chicago-area radio station he’d be surprised if Hansen wasn’t suspended.

“To me, there’s no doubt in my mind,” Olczyk said on 670 The Score. “Once he didn’t play the puck, he had one thing in his mind, and that was to put his forearm or elbow in the back of the head of Marian Hossa.

“If you go by what happened with Duncan Keith last year with Daniel Sedin where the principle point of contact was the head, you would assume that Jannik Hansen would get suspended.”

Here’s more, from Fraser:

I do not believe that there was any deliberate or malicious intent on the part of Jannik Hansen to hit Marian Hossa in the head as both players went up for an airborne puck that had been flipped out of the Hawks zone by Jonathan Toews.

The resulting contact to the back of Hossa’s head was not worthy of anything beyond the minor penalty for roughing that was eventually assessed by the referees; albeit well after play was whistled dead for the Hossa injury. 

And more, from Olcyzk:

It was a really quick play. How eerie is it that where Hossa got hit last night is probably within a foot and a half of where he got hit last year in the playoffs.

I would think that with the call and the rules and making sure that players are in control of their actions, I would be surprised if he did not get suspended.

Hansen will meet with NHL officials at 3:30 p.m. ET on Wednesday to decide his fate.

  1. rsl22 - Feb 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Olcyzk is a blatant homer. Any time a Blackhawk or Penguin is involved, Olcyzk is the first to jump to their aid.

    • zetaone - Feb 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM

      I agree Olcyzk is an idiot, but what’s with this “homer” crap around PHT for the past few months? Everyone and their mother keeps overusing it. Where did that 1800s antiquated putdown come back into existence? Some 4chan meme or something everyone now copies?

      • Mike Halford - Feb 20, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        Quiet down, homer.

      • rsl22 - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM

        I apologize for using “homer,” I didn’t know it was so passé.

      • zetaone - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:41 PM

        Not saying it’s passe, it’s just to the effect of saying “you mad bro?”. I’m more just curious where it came from.

    • esracerx46 - Feb 20, 2013 at 6:51 PM

      A homer no doubt, but he’s not the only member of the media saying it’s suspension worthy. I heard that radio interview this morning, from what I recall, Olczyk said He’d be surprised if no supplemental discipline came about, be that suspension or fine. Olczyk is also from the Chicago suburbs, and drafted by the Hawks…He’s the Hawks color commentator. Can’t you expect him to be a “homer”

    • 2difshoe - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:49 PM

      Homer, REALLY!!!! rsl22, are you enshrined in the Hockey Hall of Fame ?!?!

      Didn’t think so….show some respect !

      Olczyk would bend you into a pretzel, then you would be calling for your mommy to come help you !

      • rsl22 - Feb 21, 2013 at 2:19 PM

        A) So, are you a Pens or Hawks fan?

        B) Olcyzk is “enshrined” in a hockey hall of fame, not THE hockey hall of fame.

        C) I attacked his credibility as an impartial third party, not his playing abilities. Grow up.

    • 2difshoe - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

      RSL22…read the link…and who’s the ” Homer ?”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Olczyk

  2. dekalbhawk - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Really? Canucks are one of the teams who are always taking liberties, cheap shots, dives and cry all the way to the sin bin. The reason for the total lack of class is right behind the bench. Swarmy Alaine was not one to go after some one head on. Mostly like the time he went after Secord from behind after Secord was yammering at someone else.

    • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 4:58 PM

      And the Hawks have never done anything, eh? Nevermind the Keith elbow on Daniel Sedin last year, how about his hit to the head of Cooke a few years back?

      • wingsdjy - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

        I love how the camera catches Cooke yelling, “That’s it? Are you f*cking kidding me?”

      • wingsdjy - Feb 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM

        I love how the camera catches Cooke yelling, “That’s it? Are you f*cking kidding me?” when Keith only gets a 2 minute minor.

    • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 5:04 PM

      Or perhaps his high stick on Briere in the SCF?

      An argument can be made that was at least reckless (where the hit on Cooke was deliberate, he looks right at him rather than the puck in the corner and it’s retaliation for an earlier hit) even if he didn’t intend it.

  3. isithockeyseasonyet - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Be more simplistic- olcyk is a dbag and a terrible commentator

    • eglsfan - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:27 PM

      spoken like a typical Sedin teabagger

  4. shutyourfivehole - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    OK all you ‘nucklehead elbow to the head defenders, don’t be surprised when it happens to one of your precious twin sisters. And save all your crying. You guys bring it on to yourselves.

    • loinstache - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM

      hahah we aren’t worried, it already happened – was dirtier too. that’s ok, I understand thinking/recollecting is hard, maybe someday you can mash your forehead against the keyboard enough to get a least a couple of neurons firing

    • salmon90 - Feb 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM

      Don’t be surprised when a Sedin gets a cheap shot you say? Gee thanks for warning us. Couldn’t imagine anyone taking liberties with them!! Loving the throught process you put into your Canuck hate though. Especially the part about us ‘crying’ because Hossa got hurt….wait..what?

    • salmon90 - Feb 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM

      Don’t be surprised when a Sedin gets a cheap shot you say? Gee thanks for warning us. Couldn’t imagine anyone taking liberties with them!! Loving the thought process you put into your Canuck hate though. Especially the part about us ‘crying’ because Hossa got hurt….wait..what?

    • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM

      I think you’ve forgotten something:

      • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:03 PM

        I love the preview image of that clip, since it clearly shows how far the puck bounced up and over Daniel and how far away Keith was at the time before he chose to extend the elbow rather than let Daniel get around him (or let him get away with the ‘vicious’ hit from earlier).

  5. loinstache - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    I actually really enjoy this rivalry because it exposes that, for all their finger pointing, Hawks fans are some of the most prominent whiners I see on this board. Maybe you should just waddle Hossa in a blanket and have some quiet time away from the crowds yah? Save us having to listen to you guys every time he watches a body check?

    • rsl22 - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:42 PM

      Waddle Hossa in a blanket? You might want to find a dictionary, or the “S” key.

      • loinstache - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM

        hahha thanks, although now I’m stuck with the image of Hossa covered in a bunch of little walking ducks

  6. steverolley - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Two things

    1. After the hit all four Blackhawks players skated to the ref and complained instead of going after Hansen, just like what happened with Torres. Hossa is going to be punched repeatedly now because Chicago isn’t standing up for it top players

    2. Who really cares if Hansen is suspended 2 games? The statement from last nights hit/elbow/punch is that if you go after the Hawks stars there will be no repurcussions other than a bunch of whiners on a message board begging for a useless suspension

  7. drez146 - Feb 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Eddie your such a homer it’s pathetic that NBC continues to out this dude on hawks games on NBC network, his bias seeps through even though he tries to hide it. Do us all a favor Eddie and shut up.

  8. dt58 - Feb 20, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Hey loinstache, every team has its share of “whiny” fans but as a Canucks fan you have no ground to stand on. A year later and still crying around about Sedin? You’re right, Canucks fans much better…donkey

    • loinstache - Feb 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM

      wait what? where do I whine about a sedin? and canucks fans being better? AND donkey?! good job with that post, lots to mull about there

  9. hockeyflow33 - Feb 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    I still never understand how someone who has been around the top of the game for so long knows absolutely nothing about hockey. I have no idea how you do it Chicago. I dread the national games when I’m forced to listen to his idiocy.

  10. letsgopens8771 - Feb 20, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Has anyone heard about Hossa? Hope he’s alright. This is just ridiculious. I might be able to understand if they both were trying to jump up and glove the puck down, but Hansen jumped up and used his elbow to eliminate Hossa, which was reckless and unacceptable (Probably exactly what Sheriff Shanny says when he gives out the suspension). Hansen should be suspended for about 3-4 games and fined. Surprisingly I agree with Spedzo and I would be surprised if Hansen wasn’t disciplined.

  11. elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Here’s a good video that at least gives some weight to the argument Hansen was trying to reach for the puck but Hossa cutting in front of him made the elbow accidental:

    An argument can certainly be made that Hansen was trying to reach for the puck and Hossa gets in the way, with his shoulder blocking Hansen’s hand and forearm. That could certainly cause Hansen’s arm to bend, which would make the elbow stick out.

    • scottybcboy - Feb 20, 2013 at 5:41 PM

      Really? Ok, and Marchand was just bending down to tie up his skates when Salo got in the way. Is that an acceptable excuse? Didn’t think so. Hansen has a reputation for not being able to control his frustration, this is just another example of him crossing the line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YioGAC3Dak0

      • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM

        Ok, I think you’ve missed the logic of the video.

        Marchand wasn’t forced to bend at the knees and waist because his upper body contacted something before hitting Salo, causing him to clip him instead of bounce off him. In this case, Hansen’s hand does appear to come in contact with Hossa’s shoulder as he’s trying to extend it so that his arm bends rather than continue to straighten.

        And I’m pleased you found the worst possible copy of that Ference hit. Plenty of them, and not saying Hansen didn’t react badly on that, but is that a worse hit than the one I linked earlier for Keith hitting Cooke from a vulnerable position in retaliation for an earlier hit? Hansen at least comes at him face to face.

    • scottybcboy - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:18 PM

      I think it is quite clear that Hansen’s original intent was to play the puck, but there is also no doubt that his intentions changed with the development of the play. What we are left with is a player knowing he is beat on the play, and down 3-1 in the game, turning the resulting frustration into a reckless hit, just like he did in game 7 vs the Bruins…..down 3-0 in the deciding game he turned a natural frustration in to a dangerous and reckless play. The league must come down on players who put others at risk for no reason other than they were frustrated with the circumstances of the game.

      • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:28 PM

        That’s pretty speculative that he changed his mind in the split second and decided to elbow Hossa instead of going after the puck. Do I claim to know the truth? No, but my opinion is closer to the video I linked than it is to your last description.

        Do I think Hansen should have been more careful? Yes, but it’s a contact sport and you hope you make the right choices that won’t result in an injury to someone while competing for the puck. This one happened to result in Hossa getting hurt.

    • scottybcboy - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM

      What are you referring to when you say: “at least Hansen comes at him face to face”. It may not be blind side but it is 120 feet away from the play! You can’t possibly think that that is a clean play. I was referencing Hansen’s obvious reckless history-not a reaction to another play involving different players.

      • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:37 PM

        I never said it was a clean play. It’s clearly late and well away from the puck. What I did say is at least it’s face to face so it’s possible to react to it coming rather than having no chance to prepare at all. Is the play where Bollig immediately challenges Weise after a regular hit clean since Bollig’s ready to start punching Weise even before Weise gets to his feet? No, and it’s not even more dangerous than something like what Keith has done on a few occasions now.

        And what you did say is the Hansen hit in game 7 was a reaction to the game at the time, where my example with Keith hitting Cooke was it was a reaction to a previous hit in that game. Both are bad reactions, but which hit has more potential for injury, one that unexpected from behind, or one that’s unexpected but face to face? And I’ve already said I don’t think Hansen’s play was a hit from behind intended to make contact with the head as a reaction to the score at the time.

    • scottybcboy - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:43 PM

      Why do you keep referencing other players in other plays…..1 game suspension, well deserved, end of conversation.

      • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:56 PM

        Hey, you’re the one who started by referencing Marchand. Don’t blame me for that. I was merely comparing the recklessness of the Hansen hit on Ference (which you also brought up) to the recklessness of the Keith hit on Cooke. Which is worse and why should one be ‘evidence’ of how Hansen clearly deserves punishment? I’ve seen as much contact in the Hansen hit on Ference for someone coming directly at another player to force them to fight.

    • scottybcboy - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:28 PM

      I think ‘keep’ was the key part of that comment. We had both referenced and replied to other situations but you KEPT referinfg to an already referenced instance. Just go back to counting your fav teams’ Stanley Cup rings and we can all move on.

      • scottybcboy - Feb 20, 2013 at 8:32 PM

        Sorry for the spelling error, things just happen so fast….how can I possibly be responsible, LOL!

      • elvispocomo - Feb 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM

        Classy comeback when you have nothing left to argue. “You don’t have any Stanley Cup rings, haha!”

        Me: alternate Hansen video of Hossa hit
        You: Marchand hit and the Ference hit
        M: Marchand hit and Ference hit, compare to Keith hit earlier
        Y: Hossa hit, note of Ference hit
        M: Hossa hit
        Y: Ference hit
        M: Ference hit, compare to Bollig and Keith
        Y: complain about referencing other players

        So I reply when you reference other players only to have you complain about me referencing other players in my reply? I worked back to the topic we’re on rather than continue it but then ou continued back on the Ference hit, which I replied to once more. If you don’t want people to reply with comparisons to your comparisons, don’t compare to begin with.

  12. nekriist - Feb 20, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Hawks fans want blood, Canucks fans laugh at someone getting injured and sent off the ice.

    Unfortunately, the Hawks are not a physical team. As a Hawks fan, I wish they were. Hansen had no reason to reach for a puck that was already near waist height. Back of the head hits are common when you play Vancouver. I admit a biased dislike towards them.

    As for Keith, Nucks fans forget that Daniel (Or was it Henrik?) Sedin hit Keith in the back of the head earlier, with no penalty called. Keith acted like a grade A tard and wanted payback, and he got caught and rightfully punished. Unlike most Canucks (And quite possibly Hawks fans too), I have no problem pointing the finger at the players on my own team when they pull cheap shot crap too. Carcillo? Got what he deserved for his dangerous play. As for Keith? He’s so terrible, if I were a fan of the opposing team, i’d rather have him stay on the ice and not in the penalty box. Hurts his own team when he’s skating.

    But how you completely discredit the wrongdoings of your own team? Snowballing a goaltender constantly to be jerks? Cheap shots, shooting the puck in the net after a blown whistle, trash talking constantly, embellishing hits and flat out diving at times? It’s unfortunate, because there’s real talent on the Vancouver team, and its your coach that makes them one of the most universally disliked teams in the NHL.

    And the most tasteless things i’ve heard so far about this whole deal are Canucks fans hoping Hossa is hurt, or that he should have been hit harder. I mean, I hate the Sedin sisters with a passion, but I sure as hell never cheer when any player has to be taken off the ice.

    Love the rivalry, but some of this recklessness needs to go.

    Go Hawks!

    • r4n6er - Feb 20, 2013 at 6:02 PM

      Not a physical team…did you miss the goon punching Wiese in the face four times before he fought back? Is that four shots-to-the-head that need to be reviewed? 17 min of penalty given to one player.
      Also, it was Danny and it matters more because it was 2 games before the playoffs started, not the start of a useless season after a lockout. It sucks when guys get hurt but this was nothing more then a freak hockey moment.
      The most shocking thing I saw of the whole game was Towes influence over the refs. It was shocking to see the refs look to him and then call plays that he deemed needed a penalty.

      • toewsingkaner - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:11 PM

        r4n6er- Yes, the ref was talking to Toews…because he is the CAPTAIN. Part of a captain’s duty on the ice is to listen to the refs explanation and take that information to his coach. He acts as a go-between. The captain does have on-ice responsibility, other then leading by example. You’re just whining for the sake of whining now.

    • elvispocomo - Feb 20, 2013 at 6:53 PM

      I’d be pleased for you to show some video evidence of Canucks fans laughing or cheering at anyone getting injured. And I don’t mean comments on the internet, there are idiots everywhere and that shows up daily for all teams on this site alone.

      If you did have that, it’d be proof that we rank right up there with Boston fans, booing and/or cheering when Raymond stayed down after breaking a vertebra in his back.

      From one of Boston’s own blogs:

      … a strange thing happened right when it was shown that Mason Raymond was down. The Bruins fans started booing. Then they started chanting. … It may not be right, but the fans were chanting (correct me if I’m wrong, I was watching on TV) “Flopper! Flopper!”

    • mb65dod - Feb 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM

      Well said! Keith’s hit on Sedin was after the provocation which is not an excuse but rather explanation. It was stupid and he paid for it. So Hansen should be suspended too. If this trend continues there will be very few skilled and talented clean players left in NHL.

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