Comments on: Capitals’ Ovechkin trying to get back to ‘what everybody first knew him for’ http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/ ProHockeyTalk on NBCSports.com Tue, 21 May 2013 07:27:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: polegojim http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-141562 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:42:29 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-141562 Ok… my bad, I got one year wrong…

The results remain and the MAIN point still stands.

]]> By: jpelle82 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-141408 Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:59:59 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-141408 get it right if you’re gonna make these comparisons – boudreau was the coach since ’07-’08 – ovechkins 3rd year in the league – he by far had the best production under boudreau especially in 08 – second year with the coach. caps were dumb for letting him go – what a gift for anaheim

]]> By: polegojim http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-141162 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:53:26 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-141162 Ok… So… if under Oates, Ovi is ‘getting his chances like his old self’…. where is his OLD self?

The previous systems didn’t keep him from scoring – the evidence is below…then Bruce got more correct and Oates is getting it wrong!

Can’t have it both ways. The guys is producing like 4th liner.

Glen Hanlon –
2006 52 goals/106 pts
2007 46 goals/92 pts
2008 65 goals/112 pts
2009 56 goals/110 pts
2010 50 goals/109 pts

Bruce Boudreau -
2011 32 goals/85 pts

Dale Hunter -
2012 38 goals/65 pts

Adam Oates -
2013 5 goals/10 pts so far

1.0 pt per game under Bruce
1.3 pts per game under Glen (best year)
0.6 pts per game under Adam… and this is supposed to be ‘Ovi”s’ comfort zone?

We’ll see what the end of the season shows… but not good.

]]> By: polegojim http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-140960 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:26:36 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-140960 StakeX – All true… but NONE of which changed his talent level – all excuses for this year.

He scored all those league leading goals… WITHIN those different systems.

This year, they hype was – ‘Ovi get’s to return to his core success style’… Pssssst flat – nothing.

The guy has turned himself into a head case

]]> By: ludacrish05 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-140945 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:55:53 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-140945 People don’t seem to understand that when Bruce changed his system, it changed ovis plan. When hunter came in, hunter didnt even want ovi in his plan and finally with Oates, he’s getting his chances like “his old self”. I get that it’s been over a year since we seen his firepower but he’s just going with the systems that was given to him. Relax people

]]> By: jpelle82 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-140942 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:52:29 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-140942 the fact that 60% of ovechkin’s 10 pts are on the pp where he IS playing with an allstar cast (green, backstrom, ribiero) is tell tale of his struggles. 4 out of 5 goals on the pp. i will give him a break on the -6 because no one expects anything more from him and the caps are just dreadful 5 on 5 anyway. as far as the position change for him, i dont know how much longer you can blame it for his struggles especially since he is still top 10 in shots on goal – he is still getting plenty of chances. you can compare him to malkin if you want and they have very similar numbers % wise (malkin 65% of his pts off the pp too) but malkin is drawing more coverage and making the guys around him much better because of it (neal w/ dallas vs neal w/ pittsburgh says it all). people arent scared of ovechkin anymore and he isnt making other guys better or he would have more assists and the caps would be better. i dont like how you say all of a sudden ovechkin has “subpar linemates” when the backstrom ovechkin 1-2 was better than most for years and no one was complaining then. the coaches have put ribiero with him now (best guy on the team) and he still is doing the same. last 2 games ribiero has 1 pt playing with ovechkin.

]]> By: valoisvipers http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-140904 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:04:29 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-140904 Fat cat doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ anymore.

]]> By: ravenscaps48 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-140865 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:12:54 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-140865 God I hope you are right

]]> By: stakex http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/capitals-ovechkin-trying-to-get-back-to-what-everybody-first-knew-him-for/comment-page-1/#comment-140861 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:36:13 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1148819#comment-140861 First of all, whats with so many articles focused on how Ovechkin is struggling? We see one ever other day… and most of them have nothing of value in them. There are other stars struggling just as bad, yet we hear nothing about them. Malkin for example only has 4 goals in 17 games (one less then Ovechkin, after two more games) and is a -3. Sure he has more assists, but hes playing with a super star cast when compared to Ovechkin…. all he has to do is touch the puck from time to time and hes going to wrack up assists. Yet not one word about how a guy who scored 50 goals last year and is playing with an offensive juggernaut, would be on pace for all of 19 goals in an 82 game season.

When it comes to Ovechkin, we know the story… The guy has had to deal with four different systems, and three difference coaches in the last two years. Not to mention hes trying to learn a new position after playing left wing for 20 years. Throw in the fact hes been stuck with sub par line mates and the guys going to struggle. Its not a shock, or at least it shouldn’t be.

The good news for Caps and Ovi fans is that there have been flashes of his former self at times this year, and hes taking a lot more shots this year. If he starts to find a little comfort on right wing (he looks lost right now… so thats iffy) and a couple more shots start going in, the guy will be dangerous again.

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