Comments on: UPDATED: Trotz livid after controversial offside goal, NHL admits error

By: vstar1us

vstar1us — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:00:04 +0000

Holy hockey pucks get over it, it is a game not world peace!
Now everyone should know the importance of every game, and the Whole NHL blew it by striking!
They had all summer to prevent this crap….

By: hockeywithdrawal

hockeywithdrawal — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:07:42 +0000

Maybe – you might be right…I’m thinking of when the puck leaves the D zone and an offensive player is still caught in the zone, but then the puck comes BACK into the zone before he ever leaves it…he’s no longer offsides, doesn’t need to ‘tag up’. That’s what I was reading by that rule…and it seems different than simply beating the puck into the zone, regardless of who passed it back. Either way, I’m hoping there is at the very least an explanation given by the refs or Toronto, even if that explanation is “he blinked and didn’t see the offsides”.

By: hockeywithdrawal

hockeywithdrawal — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:04:24 +0000

Agree and disagree…there are a lot of close calls in this league…and this was NOT one of them. Clear, easy call. So, I do believe a LOT of people are owed an explanation on this one, and I think waayyyyyy too many times people accept the “I call ‘em as I see ‘em” line as an explanation.

There were 5 other goals they let in, and they scored 5 other goals to match those. While you can’t blame just the ref, these games shouldn’t be decided by a call that is that far off.

By: indianhead1992

indianhead1992 — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:19:33 +0000

I feel bad for Nashville, they lost that game by 1 and that was a clear offsides. their are two things we need to look at here, 1) refs make mistakes they are humans 2) they still gave up 5 other goals. cant just blame the loss on the zebra

By: sasquatch678

sasquatch678 — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:22:08 +0000

I’m still completely befuddled by the entire game. Clearly a rule change is needed to allow for review of any play that leads to a goal. I agree with Chambers; that was ludicrous.

By: elvispocomo

elvispocomo — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:32:05 +0000

That is the only possible explanation, but even then when have you ever seen that apply when it’s not an obvious pass back into the defender’s own zone. Any deflections, bounces, tips, etc that bounce off a defender but come from an offensive player always count as offside. The linesman just blew it.

By: elvispocomo

elvispocomo — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:29:30 +0000

But only if it’s an intentional pass back into their own zone does that ever apply. You see puck bounce or deflect off of players and go back into their own zone but it always still counts as offside until the offensive players clear. Plain and simple just a horrible call.

By: stakex

stakex — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:28:03 +0000

Thats the only possible explination. The linesman saw the whole thing clear as day… so either he thought it was played into the zone by Nashville, or he bet on the Avs.

By: blkeskimo1785

blkeskimo1785 — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:49:06 +0000

Perhaps that was a makeup call for the previous game in Denver? The puck bounced off the referee, went right to Shane Doan, and the Coyotes won it in OT. Terrible missed call, though.

By: govtminion

govtminion — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:34:42 +0000

Incredible… The Preds have every right to be furious about this mess.

By: jcmeyer10

jcmeyer10 — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:07:23 +0000

Even the Av’s player slowed up a bit as if waiting for a whistle.

By: dolanster

dolanster — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:03:38 +0000

I don’t understand why ALL goals aren’t reviewable for any reason. There aren’t that many goals scored and fewer still where there’s any questionable action whatsoever. Maybe one goal out of 4 or 5 has a question. Look at the replay like everyone else and make the right call. There’s no excuse not to.

By: 950003cups

950003cups — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:41:32 +0000

Derek Amell is the Jim Joyce of the NHL.

Tomorrow we gonna see Amell crying as he comes out to center ice and hugs Trotz and apologizes??

(Jim Joyce was the MLB umpire who blew a call like this on June 2, 2010 and ruined Armando Galarraga’s perfect game on the last play of the game)

By: andidee15

andidee15 — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:31:01 +0000

Even as an Avs fan, I’m bewildered. I mean, we’ll take it, but it must have been opposite day at the Pepsi Center or something. Such a blown call.

By: scionofflame

scionofflame — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:26:15 +0000

Because there was nothing wrong with the goal. He beat Mason fair and square…it was the call on the blue line that mattered, and that’s not reviewable. Apparently.

By: blurwild

blurwild — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:18:14 +0000

“I feel sorry for the dude…” yet I’m going to waste no time by being the first person to tweet out the linesman’s name. Classy move Mike Chambers.

Maybe save it for the paper, that way you are still being a faithful journalist while also hiding the info somewhere that no one will read it.

By: hockinj25

hockinj25 — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:55:54 +0000

For every blown call like this there are hundreds of correct calls.

By: lesleyvissersfacelift

lesleyvissersfacelift — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:30:06 +0000

A challenge rule is a nice idea, but aren’t all goals reviewed in Toronto? Why wasn’t the goal disallowed by those guys? It was a clear offsides and could have easily been corrected via replay. This is much more clear cut than last year’s controversy in LA when the Kings recalibrated the coloumbs. And if the answer is that the NHL only reviews if the puck fully crossed the goal line, why weren’t either of the on-ice referees skeptical enough to have Toronto review the whole play? If the rules don’t allow for this type of review the NHL should consider making a change this summer.

By: tdrusher225

tdrusher225 — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:20:37 +0000

I hate linesmen so much. They only have 2 jobs and they suck at them both.

By: scionofflame

scionofflame — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:04:21 +0000

Calls and games like this are the biggest reason coaches need the ability to challenge.

Preds lost the game by one goal. One goal that a challenge call might have prevented. Depressing.

By: jeremyroenickdanceparty

jeremyroenickdanceparty — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:58:50 +0000

you’re probably thinking about rule 83.2 which refers to deflections back into the D zone by the defending team. different scenario, different rule.

By: jeremyroenickdanceparty

jeremyroenickdanceparty — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:52:16 +0000

you are wrong. the rule doesn’t say anything about where the play originated. in this case, back most definitely refers to the relative motion of the play, not its origination (i.e. forward is toward the offensive zone and back is towards your D zone)

By: Mike Halford

Mike Halford — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:51:59 +0000

Speaking of, Tony Sericolo was working this game! He didn’t make the call, but he was there.

By: bmscalise

bmscalise — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:50:31 +0000

Pens fans everywhere sympathize. Just be glad that an excusable non-call on an offsides didn’t cost you a playoff game, Nashville fans.

By: hockeywithdrawal

hockeywithdrawal — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:41:36 +0000

This applies when the puck starts in the D zone and a player on the D team carries it BACK in (key word back). I just can’t see this being what the ref thought. Even if the D man touched it the puck hadn’t been in the zone to begin with.

Worst part, game ends 6-5 Avs.

By: jeremyroenickdanceparty

jeremyroenickdanceparty — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:36:36 +0000

Rule 83.1 “If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own defending zone while a player of the opposing team is in such defending zone, the off-side shall be ignored and play permitted to continue.”

Linesman must have thought that the Nashville D intentionally played it back. It does look like it touches him.

By: bcsteele

bcsteele — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:33:05 +0000

I agree with you that must have been what he thought, cause I agree with the reporter…worst none call I’ve seen for sure.

By: rdurk86

rdurk86 — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:27:13 +0000

Only thing I see is that it hit the Nashville D man’s leg/stick before it went into the zone. Maybe the ref thought he played it back into his own end.