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Sens’ owner ‘outraged’ after Karlsson injury, thinks Cooke doesn’t belong in NHL

Feb 15, 2013, 8:58 AM EDT

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On Thursday, Ottawa Senators general manager Bryan Murray chose to be pretty diplomatic in his assessment of Pittsburgh Penguins forward Matt Cooke after the NHL determined that his role in star defenseman Erik Karlsson‘s season-ending injury wasn’t a punishable offense.

“They suggested it was a hockey play gone bad,” Murray said. “I suggested Cooke has somewhat of a history.”

His boss, Senators owner Eugene Melnyk wasn’t in the mood to pull his punches.

“I’m very upset, actually I’m more than upset, I’m outraged that in this day and age this continues,” said Melnyk, according to the Ottawa Sun.

He recognized that it’s the NHL’s job to judge whether or not the incident was accident, but Melnyk doesn’t think Cooke should have been allowed to play on Wednesday — or any day — in the first place.

For years Melnyk has wanted lifetime bans to be issued to repeat offended and clearly he thinks that Cooke, who has been suspended five times, qualifies.

“This guy should be kicked … He doesn’t belong in the league. He belongs somewhere where the goons play,” said Melnyk. “Get him in the Central league. He can be a $60,000-a-year guy playing pick-up hockey there.

“The guy does not deserve … He’s got one purpose.”

For his part, Cooke said that his skate cutting Karlsson was unintentional.

“He and I were engaged. He went down screaming,” Cooke said. “I didn’t even know what happened.”

  1. jpelle82 - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    oh please, you gonna go file charges now?

  2. miketoasty - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:05 AM

    This was so two days ago. Maybe he’s just mad his wife didn’t put out last night?

  3. danaking - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Cooke has done a great deal to reform, but he’s not going to be able t walk away from his reputation for a long time, maybe never.

    Still, this reaction is a bit much. It was an unfortunate play, and Karlsson is a great an enjoyable talent to watch. It’s also a dangerous game, and things happen.

    • sw19womble - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM

      If you owned a business where you paid your key employee a small fortune and something happened whereby
      a. you had to keep paying the guy and
      b. he was going to be out for the rest of the year
      you’d be pissed too.

      • zetaone - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

        It’s hockey. It happens all the time.

        All we can tell from the past few days is that everyone in the Senators organization from the top down are a bunch of whiners.

      • killerpgh - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM

        As per the CBA NHL teams are required to insure their teams top 5 contracts. Karlsson will be paid be the insurance company.

  4. jrillah10 - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    I’m confused. Does this only apply to other teams? Shut your mouth, tool. You have a guy on your team that has a history of cheap shots as well (Neal). I like Neal, but he’s on the dirty side as well.

    • jrillah10 - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM

      *Neil that is.

    • f2maestro - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

      I was thinking the same thing. I mean, if the hockey world wants to discuss intent or motivation to injure another player, why isn’t Neil being spoken to or disciplined? Just because his teammate went down doesn’t excuse him skating over and sucker punching another player who had declined to fight, as Cooke should have since he did not do anything wrong. What if Cooke loses his balance, smacks his head and suffers a concussion as a result? Does the league look into it or discipline Neil then? I don’t think so (unfortunately).

      • dkuether017 - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM

        I said this exact same thing when he originally opened his mouth about complaining to the league about it!! How does Neil not get disciplined for punching Cooke in the face 3 times standing, and then while he’s pinned him down punch him 2 more!?

        This guy needs to realize that the NHL’s fan base is already small after the lockout, taking one more exciting player off the ice because of an accident that cost a player a season is only going to hurt it more. In that case lets kick out every single player whos involved in an injury play.

        What a tool.

      • badintent - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

        Rob Moore =Matt Cooke
        Little talent, short man with short dick=cheap shot thug

  5. hockeywithdrawal - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    The guy had 19 goals and 38 points last year…his “he’s got one purpose” statement is stupid.

    I completely understand anger over this, however…especially given Cooke’s history. It was unfortunate, Karlsson is a great talent. I’d be LIVID if this were someone like Rinaldo or Torres on Crosby or Malkin. I’d go so far as to say that while I appreciate the player Cooke has become, I do hope there’s no extension after this year. But honestly, while Cooke’s feet may have been in a questionable position, these remarks and Murray’s remarks are completely unprofessional and embarassing for the Senator’s organization.

  6. buddysguys - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    this was not intentional at all…this dude is an idiot that is upset he lost his two top players in 2 weeks. It happens. Plus this guy employs Chris Neil, he must of forgot about the elbow to the head of Drury…or Rutuu biting Peters…those are just incidents involving Buffalo. I bet there are many more stories around the league…

  7. f2maestro - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    How does someone so high up in any organization make such pointed, biased, emotional comments? I respected what his GM said right after it happened and (relatively speaking) he was well within his right to say what he did. I’d expect this from a player, not an owner.

    • 19to77 - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM

      Plus, Murray said it like, right afterward. It’s completely understandable that his emotions got away from him a little.

      Melnyk’s had two days to work out exactly what he wanted to say, and instead of being a mature adult, he’s throwing a tantrum. It’s a little sad to see from a supposed professional.

  8. jaybaileys - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    This owner may be passionate about his team and upset, but he needs to buy a clue.

  9. valoisvipers - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    Yeah I get it, you lost a key part of your team but please stop the whining it only makes the organization look silly. It was ruled a hockey play gone bad and ends there regardless of what one thinks about Cooke.

  10. bcsteele - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    I’m sorry, but the Sens management/ownership needs to stop crying about this and move on. I’m a huge fan of this young guy, but it doesn’t matter what they say, it’s not going to change the fact that Karlsson is going to be out for the year.

    To give my opinion though, reform or no reform, belong or doesn’t belong, this is not Cooke driving his head into the boards. Or giving him a blindside hit to the head while he leaves his feet. This was exactly what the NHL observed it as, a hockey play gone bad. With all due respect to Cooke (not sure that’s warranted) but I don’t believe he’s got the skill level to do what he did on purpose. As someone pointed out on a previous post, they could have probably re played those same actions a hundred times and have nothing happen.

    I wish the Sens luck, but seriously put it to rest and figure out what you need to do to repeat last years success.

  11. malkinrulez - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Sens fans outraged they haven’t seen a Stanley Cup in a 100 years

  12. xflyersx - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    I’ve run out of coffee, where am I going to put my whiskey

  13. kaptaanamerica - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    the article says he’s been asking the nhl for years to have lifetime bans on repeat offenders.if there were bans like that people like Cooke would have either reformed or been booted a long time ago.frankly,i agree that there should be lifetime bans on repeat dangerous offenders.also neil is no where in the same low class as Cooke neither is ruutu. cheap shots and ending careers or seasons are two different things.

  14. sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    This makes me appreciate my teams owners and management even more now. If they would of made these kind of statements after crosby’s concussion, malkins knee, or letangs concussion i would of been embarrased. Sorry for karlsson and i hope he dominates when he comes back, but its hockey injuries happen.

    • buddysguys - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM

      i bet Boyle would say differently.

  15. nsducksfan - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    The sens are have been a class less organization for awhile now, neil and carkner have crossed the line multiple times and cooke in my opinion has more skill in his reformed self then niel and carkner put together, granted carkner isn’t in Ottawa anymore however..people in glass houses..oh ya and there’s the cheap intentional slap shot your “golden boy” alfredsson took at a legend Scott niedermyer. All because he was frustrated as usual because his team is rank and they were getting out played to hell and back in the Stanley cup final. From ownership to captain this organization is class-less whiners.

  16. 950003cups - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Like the old fable of the Turtle and the Scorpoon. Cooke tried to be good. But it’s not in his nature. I love how pens fans try to make Cooke out to be the victim and expect everyone else to buy in. Lol.
    You have to be the stupidest fan base alive. Bunch of dingbats.

    Cooke had swung his skate blade in the past. Once he was in his back in the goal crease and swung it by Osgood’s neck AFTER A WHISTLE!! It’s on This douche and his excuse makers, need to disappear.

    • bigrboland - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      We’re all a little stupider after reading this moron’s post.

      • 950003cups - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:57 PM

        You were just born that way. That’s what happens when 2 stupid people have sex. The child always comes out stupid

    • btpdiddy - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM

      What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

      • 950003cups - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        Rational? Hows this for rational, you pathetic moron. Have you ever heard of something called “PROOF” or did the 2 stupid people who created you are as dumb as you?

    • aso513 - Feb 15, 2013 at 1:11 PM

      You may be the least intelligent sports fan alive. You really are a loser 950003cups.

    • aso513 - Feb 15, 2013 at 1:15 PM

      You’re Osgood example has nothing to do with this incident. The fact that you are too dumb to recognize that should tell you something. Go pull up your clips from 3-5 years ago and watch them on a loop so you can feel better about yourself. You really are just a dumb person.

      • aso513 - Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM

        Sorry, I meant “Your*”.

      • 950003cups - Feb 15, 2013 at 2:17 PM

        No the fact that Cooke used his skate blade in the past means nothing? Especially that he did it again. Oh, cause according to you stupid people, REPENTED. Was he innocent in that video? According you morons like yourself, YES!

        Do you people have schools where you grow up? Cooke made a lucrative living with that mind set. It’s his nature. The “3-5 yeas ago” video SHOWS that he’s been doing this since he got here… You wanna base his innocence on ONE year? The one where he was warned by the NHL?

        Are you really that pathetically stupid? I’m surprised you can read. LOL!!

        OK Forest!! You’re right, Cooke is a good little boy! He never did anything wrong. LOL
        Everyone invented it

    • pens5829 - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM

      950003cups. Go to the local psych ward, check in, and get yourself some mental help dude.

      • 950003cups - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:09 PM

        You really are stupid! WOW! Must be the water in Pittsburgh. Philly fans are rough, but at least they aren’t stupid.

      • pens5829 - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM

        Shoo McFly.

  17. jpdoc26 - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    The only people who think this was intentional is the Senators organization. Leave Cooke alone. The guy has proven he is reformed. Good hockey player who clearly has turned a corner when it comes to malicious play.

    • habsman - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM


      I’ve read more than few posts from other fan bases that believe it was dirty. And it was. Anyone can plainly see a downward stomping motion by Cooke.

      There seems to be a rush to obsolve Cooke of any blame by calling it a “hockey play,” which it most certainly was not. The league once again is showing how little balls it has by refusing to deal with it. This guy has no respect for his fellow players in the league and it’s only matter of time before someone else is seriously hurt by him. What will the next excuse be?

      • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM

        Watch the TSN crew discuss the play from someone who has played hockey (aaron ward). If you still think it was dirty, well, i guess you can’t fix stupid.

      • habsman - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:19 AM

        Well at least you didn’t say “your stupid” this time.

        I don’t have a dog in this fight. My opinion is based on what I saw. How about you?

        It was dirty, and stop giving Cooke the benifi of the doubt, he doesn’t deserve it.

      • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:30 AM

        I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt I’m using common sense. Again watch the TSN breakdown, they show 2 other cases where a players left leg comes up like that to pin the opposing player against the boards. Karlsson stick also lifted cooke’s stick when they collided sending Cooke off balance. Slow motion it might look bad but this game isn’t played in slow motion.

  18. cweez2 - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Crying about visitors buying tickets, crying about others cheap-shotting your players. What’s next, thinking the NHL owes you a draft pick for a short season?

    Get your own house in order first.

  19. interiorfan - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Get over yourself, Eugene. Cookie has a history but nobody could deliberately cause that injury in the space of time it took for that play to happen. It’ unfortunate, yes, but it has happened before (see Kevin Bieksa) and it will happen again. Too bad for the Sens but every team suffers injuries to key players.

  20. malkinrulez - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Habsman doesn’t your team have the king of the slew foot and skate stomp PK Subban? Where was your call for order when he stomped on Staals foot? It was an accident unlike the tool on your team

    • habsman - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:24 AM

      I don’t condone dirty play by any player. Are you suggesting it was OK for Cooke to “stomp” because PK did it?

      • bigrboland - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        That’s just a silly, silly question.

  21. jpdoc26 - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Yeah he shouldn’t be in the NHL. He would have been 6th on Ottawa in scoring last season and 5th in goals. Idiots.

  22. bgrillz - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Well, he is a good representation of his franchise…loser. When the Sens win anything, other than a whining contest, let us know. Until then, shut up! Everyone outside your organization says you can’t be serious. But apparently you are. I’m sure next time we play, your lone goon will go after Cooke, with all the class your franchise has become famous for.

  23. bardown66 - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Ok, I feel bad for karlsson and sens fans since their season was ruined but what I’m about to say is some at the owner. HAHAHAHAHAH shut up you tool, you have Chris Neil on your team so it’s pot calling the kettle black. A bad break, get over it. No I’ll will towards the “sens army” just hate when people who handle the business side of things discuss the hockey part.

  24. mclovinhockey - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    I think it was an accident… However Cooke even though he reformed will always have a huge history of very dirty cheap shots. He has ended seasons and careers in his life with some of his antics.

    As much as I think this was a huge accident, players need to know what they are doing and him raising his skate then applying enough pressure in order to actually cut him will always keep a small doubt in my mind.

    • crosberries - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM

      If you think for one second there needs to be a decent amount of pressure to cut through skin with a razor blade you should go try it yourself

      • sizzle299 - Feb 16, 2013 at 12:43 PM

        Everyone on these boards has been asking you to off yourself since you started putting moronic posts on here. Maybe this razor blade “experiment” is a good way to make everyone happy. You make your lame point about pressure and we all don’t have to read your ass-holish comments all the time.

  25. ml3939 - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    How about an article entitled “NHL outraged, Sens owner is a pouting idiot”

    • pensfan72 - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM

      As a Pens fan, I first will say, that I never liked Cooke’s antics prior to last year. He made the Pens organization look bad. Now after last year, and his tranformation the guy can actually play hockey. Unfortunately, his past will always be there and he will never escape it. This incident while very unfortunate, was not intentional. Does anyone notice his head was completely turned the opposite way? how can you intentionally stomp the area he did as fast as the game goes without looking? If this was, lets say, Paul Martin who had done this would there be anyone questioning this? If so, it would have died 5 minutes after being discussed. Just saying….

  26. alexshowerman - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    I hate Matt Cooke, and I hate the Penguins, but I have to say, has this owner ever played hockey? To say that somebody at the speed this game is played with, intentionally stepped in between the back of the skate and his leg, is crazy talk. That is just a freak play, and tragic injury. Let’s leave it at that and move on.

  27. tfaltin - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    I think the threat of a lifetime ban should be there, and may be the only real deterrent for dirty plays. That is not to say that Cooke did that intentionally the other night. It was an awkward play, and nobody knows why his leg was in the air, given that it’s hard to draw a conclusion. However, I do think that Cooke should have been gone from the league after the Savard incident, and Bertuzzi should have been banned for his sucker punch years ago.That ultimate consequence needs to be available for plays that are clear intents to injure. Like any other sport playing hockey should be a privlege, and I think the sport would only improve if fans could watch a game without cheap shot artists. There are other players in teams systems that should get that roster spot for playing the game the right way.

  28. onlinehockeynut - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    If you watch the play in slow motion, you would see that what Cooke did was intentional. Maybe it wasn’t his intent to cut Karlsson’s tendon, but Cooke did intent to injure or hinder him in some way. If he was bringing his foot down, then why did it move laterally instead of just down? Why did his knee hitch in another direction if he was just bring it down to ice level? Neil doesn’t cheap shot people. He picks his spots and he rattles teeth and has no history of suspensions so comparing him to Cooke is idiotic.

    • 4hockey - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM

      Whoaa, back up buddy! If you go back further and look at the clip as the two players went into the corner you will clearly see that Karlsson lunges upward into Cooke which throws him off balance which causes his skate to lift off of the ice. He brought his skate down it unfortunately sliced laterally across Karlsson’s achiles. But of course if you watch the clip that you posted below in slow motion it only tells part of the story and yes if I didn’t see what preceded that I may also perceive that it may have been intentional. But it wasn’t!

  29. onlinehockeynut - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:45 AM


    TSN initially said the play was dirty and then miraculously they changed their tune probably because the NHL told them not to smear an already besmirched organization. Its extremely fishy, wouldn’t you say?

    • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM

      Show me the video where they called it dirty please.

      • onlinehockeynut - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

        Here’s proof that Cooke did intend to injure Karlsson in some way.

        History of people Cooke injured:

        What we are going to do to Pittsburg next time we play them:

        Funny, the video on what TSN said on it being a dirty play was taken down. Fishier and fishier.

      • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:40 PM

        Ahh so you can’t find it. Conspiracy!!!!!!!! Bob mckenzie, Aaron ward, Kevin weekes, Matthew barnaby, Barry melrose. What do they all have in common? They all have blasted Cooke in the past (rightfully so) for his dirty hits, and they all agree this was a freak accident.

      • f2maestro - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM

        @onlinehockeynut – Oh, right. I forgot TSN and the Penguins have some unholy alliance against the Ottawa Senators. Next you’re going to tell me TSN is in Mario’s back pocket since both He and Sid are from Canada? You sound ridiculous.

  30. philly4lyfe - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    so I guess im the minority here. but if your going into the boards with someone, what purpose does it serve to lift your skate off the ice like that? why put it on his leg above the skate? in what universe is that considered a good hockey play? ive watched it several times and i just dont see any reason why his skate needed to come off the ice at all, let alone high enougj to be above the back of karlsons skate. i see people use their arms, stick, upper body, legs, knees etc to pin someone on the wall, but i cant recall seeing anyone who felt the needed to lift a skate that high off the ice to do it. and this isnt just because im from philly and hes a penguin. if there is a plausible reason for that action, then please enlighten me and I will be the first to admit im wrong. but I dont see why he needed to lift his skate off the ice like that when going into a battle along the boards.

    • onlinehockeynut - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM

      That is what I have been saying all along.

      • crosberries - Feb 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM

        You should take your advice from someone who spells “life” with a y since your both morons

      • habsman - Feb 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM

        “…your both morons”..

        You are calling people morons, yet you cannot use the word “your” in the proper context.

        “You’re” the obvious moron here.

      • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 5:01 PM

        I wish having logical facts and a reasonable discussion meant more to you then spelling habsman, but so be it. If you can’t win the arguement, you win the spelling bee. Congrats! Please pick up your trophy at the front desk.

    • misterchainbluelightning - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM

      A players skate comes off the ice a bunch of times during a game in these situations. Jesus, Nick Kypreos used the following Calgary game that same night and showed video of like 5 instances where a players skate came off the ice in the same manner just from that one game. This happens ALL the time, yet you two just can’t figure it out. I’d say watch hockey more often and pay closer attention.

    • 4hockey - Feb 15, 2013 at 4:00 PM

      If you go back further and look at the clips as the two players went into the corner you will clearly see that Karlsson lunges upward into Cooke which throws him off balance which causes his skate to lift off of the ice. When he brought his skate down it unfortunately sliced laterally across Karlsson’s achilles. There was NO stomping motion as some have insinuated. He wasn’t paying attention to where his foot was coming down but focused on the puck. But of course if you watch the clips that are in slow motion that only start as they go in to the boards with Cooke’s leg already lifted it only tells part of the story.

      This was NOT intentional.

    • 4hockey - Feb 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM

      If you go back further and look at the clips as the two players went into the corner you will clearly see that Karlsson lunges upward into Cooke which throws him off balance which causes his skate to lift off of the ice. When he brought his skate down it unfortunately sliced laterally across Karlsson’s achilles. There was NO stomping motion as some have insinuated. He wasn’t paying attention to where his foot was coming down but focused on the puck. But of course if you watch the clips that are in slow motion that only start as they go in to the boards with Cooke’s leg already lifted it only tells part of the story.

      This was NOT intentional.

  31. steviep23 - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Wow a rich owner telling a guy to go play for 60k. Pure class.

  32. malkincookies7124 - Feb 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Didn’t this guy employ Dany Heatley? Talk about calling the kettle black.

  33. gmenfan1982 - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Cooke lifted his skate and stepped on Karlsson’s leg. Seems obvious to me there was intent. When has anyone seen player literally lift his skate like that dring a check?

    • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      The crew at TSN show 2-3 examples of players doing the same thing Cooke did just without the severed Achilles ending.

      • onlinehockeynut - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM

        Are you blind? It clearly was not the same thing.

      • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:43 PM

        You clearly have labeled Cooke guilty in your mind because of his past and refuse to accept anything else. How is him lifting his leg (while being thrown off balance due to stick jostling) to pin the player against the boards, not the same as in the other 2 examples they show?

  34. schultzie1971 - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Maybe some of you oughta sit down and watch a replay of the entire Philly – Pens playoff series from last year and ask yourselves how half of Philly’s team is in the league? The Pens had enough and retaliated – to the point that they were goaded into the goonery that was and is Philly Hockey. We all saw where it got Philly in the next round – right out of the playoffs. Anyone who is going to side with this whiny ass owner needs to go back to Dorothy Hamill and watch figure skating for a while and blog about that…

  35. f2maestro - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Are there any Ottawa fans that comment on this blog and not just click the down finger/dislike button because they’re upset they lost Karlsson for a year? I’d really like to read an objective POV that isn’t based solely on Cooke’s past.

  36. onlinehockeynut - Feb 15, 2013 at 12:50 PM


    Considering they are all kowtowing to the NHL, I am not surprised you would think that. Only the gullible and stupid like you would think that bringing your foot down that fast on a player’s leg is legit. Cooke knows full well where his hands and feet are and where Karlsson’s were. You don’t need to look to see where they are, you can feel them.

    Anyway, with the videos posted above, I have proven that there was an intent to at least slew foot Karlsson. If you don’t believe me, well, as you said, you can’t fix stupid, and you should really take your own words to heart. If you’re blind as well, not my problem, and here you are defending Cooke and this play, which should have been called dead in the first place.

    • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      CONSPIRACY!!!!! Theres no point in argueing with you because you have already made your mind up and refuse to listen to anything that doesnt paint cooke as the villian in all this. I bring up facts and show you how its a accident, and you cry conspiracy to discredit that. No thank you, you have wasted enough of everyones time here. Good day.

      • onlinehockeynut - Feb 15, 2013 at 2:51 PM

        His past history alone brings this entire episode into question. You didn’t provide any facts at all actually. I did. Look at the video evidence. You can CLEARLY see how Cooke hitched his knee and did not bring it directly down to the ice.

        “CONSPIRACY!!!!! Theres no point in argueing with you because you have already made your mind up and refuse to listen to anything that doesnt paint cooke as the villian in all this.”

        And what? His half-assed ‘apology’ is enough to make it better? I can understand being objective, but objectivity is thrown out the window in a case such as this considering Cooke’s prior history.

        If you didn’t watch the game on TSN and didn’t hear of the fishy analysis regarding the supposedly dirty hit miraculously turning into a hockey play then you have no right to an opinion on this matter.

        I think I would know after almost 30 years of playing and watching hockey.

      • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM

        Facts i presented to you. 1 his leg is in the air because hes trying to pin karlsson against the boards. 2 his knee hitched on the way down because his equilibrium (center of balance) was thrown off due to the jostling of sticks between him and karlsson. If you played hockey like you suggest then you would know how fast the game is and how unrealistic it is that he tried to cut him with his skate while going in for a hit during a board play. Like i said ill never change your opinion on this play because you prejudge cooke due to his past ( i can somewhat understand that orginally) but to assume he set out to step on karlsson and cut him is ludicrous. Also the reason the “fishy analysis’ is because at first they saw it was matt cooke and jumped to the same conclusions you did based off his past, but after reviewing the play understand its a hockey play, or it could be a conspiracy. Your choice,

      • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:31 PM

        Also if you havent watched matt cooke change his game over the past 2 years, maybe you shouldnt have a opinion on this matter.

  37. truebluefred - Feb 15, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    This is pro hockey, folks. Goons have always been part of the game. We love to hate them. Several cornments have mentioned Neil and are dead on point to illustrate the Sens hypocrisy in this issue. Perhaps a league-wide ban on Neil, Hartnell, Subban, Torres, etc. is in order? All teams have at least 2 enforcers, just part of the game. Karlsson is a great talent as are many other players in the NHL. When it happens to your guy, it sucks, but a dose of reality is in order as well. I don’t recall Blackhawks management crying for a lifelong ban on Raffi Torres for putting Hossa out of the playoff and putting a SERIOUS dent in their Cup run. Torres got a substantial suspension. less than a minute after he took the ice on his return, the gloves dropped and it was over. Let the players take care of their own. Ownership needs to stick to thier responsibilities, like the CBA and avoiding lockouts!

  38. augsburg12 - Feb 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Stop crying what happened to the classy organization that Ottawa used to be. They have turned into a bunch on whining cry babies. First it’s about Leaf and Habs fans buying all the tickets to the games making it home games for them. Now this injury has them all but packing their golf clubs for the playoffs. Suck it up make the changes needed and get on with the job

  39. stevefromsacto - Feb 15, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    I’m not a Penguin fan, nor am I a fan of Matt Cooke’s (although I do give him credit for cleaning up his act over the past two years).

    Still, having followed hockey for more than 50 years, I can’t recall a case where a player used his skates to intentionally injure another player. Do any of you remember such an incident? Using the stick, yes, but the skate, no. That’s why I do not believe that Cooke intended to hurt another player with his skate blade.

    • bhunter47 - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:24 PM

      Chris Simon’s intentional stomp on Jarkko Ruutu.

  40. pens5829 - Feb 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Yo Eugene?!?!? Career stats comparrison:

    Matt Cooke: 14 seasons, 1050 PIM, 147 goals, 197 assists

    Chris Neil: 11 seasons, 1897 PIM, 93 goals, 11 assists

    Who belongs out of the league?

    What a d-bag????

  41. csilojohnson - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    This guy Murry is a scumbag. Cooke changed his game around completely. Maby two years ago what he is saying would hold since weight. What a scary world this would be if we were all judged soley for our past indiscretions.

  42. csilojohnson - Feb 15, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    What stomping motion? You all know that what goes up must come down right? If I was skating on one skate you better believe that second skate is going down fast.
    The difference between Cooke and all other aforementioned goons is Cooke can actually play hockey. He doesnt even go for big hits anymore. Of course nobody crying here has actually watched him in the last year. Everybody just remembers the last headlines they read about him.

  43. steelers88 - Feb 15, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    You know what I actually felt bad for the Senators but now I don’t. you know
    What I have to say to the Senators organization tough tarts. The a Penguins lost the best players in the NHL for most of the 2010-2011 season we made it to the playoffs so SUCK IT UP SENATORS!

  44. onlinehockeynut - Feb 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM


    Cooke could have easily pinned him without getting a skate up. Most of Cooke’s weight was distributed towards his left left, not his right. If he was off balance as you say, then why was he standing up without any trouble? Why would his left go down without going backwards if his center of gravity was going forward?

    Your ‘facts’ haven’t been proven because no one else has gone on record saying what you have written. Matt Cooke did that to himself when he decided to play the way he did and causing those previous injuries to other players. Don’t blame me for using it against him in this case. Maybe he did not intend to cut Karlsson, but he did intend to hinder or injure him in some way. Believe what you want but you are taking an extremely liberal approach to this. Cooke has ended hockey careers in the past, and now, for some reason, he’s supposed to be Mr. Clean who can’t do anything wrong. That’s convenient and oh so coincidental.

    • sportsfreak13 - Feb 15, 2013 at 7:40 PM

      Actually the TSN crew said exactly what I wrote. Aaron ward (ex NHL defenseman abd bob Mackenzie said everything I wrote on tv. Check it out. I guess your a person who doesn’t believe other people can change. I know first hand that’s not true, I also know you haven’t watched how Cooke has played the past 1.5 years to see how much his game has changed. What I said are facts backed up by NHL experts. What you have is theories.

  45. billsboy88 - Feb 15, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    I have a hard time believing that any player on any level would ever think to themselves, “I’m gonna use my skate to purposely slice through this guy’s Achilles, that should help us win.” Gimme a break, man, it was a horrible freak accident.

  46. ducksk - Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Sens leadership is a joke. Alfie a captain in NHL is a joke. Always have been.

  47. xjokerz - Feb 17, 2013 at 3:35 AM

    I’d like to play pick up hockey for 60,000 you asshole

  48. junterberger22 - Feb 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    950003cups, your an idiot… Cooke has changed drastically. You lost your best player for a season oh well deal with it. Star players get hurt it happens it sucks. What’s the point of Cooke changing if people aren’t willing to acknowledge it? This was completely unintentional, period. If Cooke did that on purpose he has the best coordination in the league. Before you comment get your facts straight.

  49. bleed4philly - Feb 17, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    He didnt need to lift his skate, and when he did he should’ve led with his knee. Dirty play gone worse than intended.

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