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	<title>Comments on: O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s dad blasts Avs management via Twitter</title>
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		<title>By: yvrmike</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yvrmike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 05:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lets put ourselves in Mr. O&#039;Reily Sr. and you as a dad has been involved in your sons career. Are you not going to sound off on the frustration that his son is going through just because the Avalanche are so cheap.
Some of you may think he is an unproven player but many many managers think otherwise.
And who the hell are you ? Is it you thats writing O&#039;Reilies Cheque? shhhhhhhhh
Players should be able to make as much as the market allows them.  PERIOD n shhhhhhhhh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets put ourselves in Mr. O&#8217;Reily Sr. and you as a dad has been involved in your sons career. Are you not going to sound off on the frustration that his son is going through just because the Avalanche are so cheap.<br />
Some of you may think he is an unproven player but many many managers think otherwise.<br />
And who the hell are you ? Is it you thats writing O&#8217;Reilies Cheque? shhhhhhhhh<br />
Players should be able to make as much as the market allows them.  PERIOD n shhhhhhhhh</p>
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		<title>By: kaptaanamerica</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaptaanamerica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[avalanche management owes it to the team to get the best return possible. oreilly is making it harder for himself and the team to get him playing somewhere else.why would some gm make a huge rfa offer to an unproven player.the guy has one good year.if he was smart he&#039;d take a bridge contract and then cash in after two more years of proving himself.these people are acting foolish going public like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>avalanche management owes it to the team to get the best return possible. oreilly is making it harder for himself and the team to get him playing somewhere else.why would some gm make a huge rfa offer to an unproven player.the guy has one good year.if he was smart he&#8217;d take a bridge contract and then cash in after two more years of proving himself.these people are acting foolish going public like this.</p>
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		<title>By: wren49</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wren49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of these pro-hockey dads are worse than beauty-pageant moms...

Mr. O&#039;Reilly, let the kid earn some respect around the league before you start playing the rogue-agent home game!

That said, I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing Ryan in a Canucks jersey...

...as long as his dad stays 2000 miles away in Ontario :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these pro-hockey dads are worse than beauty-pageant moms&#8230;</p>
<p>Mr. O&#8217;Reilly, let the kid earn some respect around the league before you start playing the rogue-agent home game!</p>
<p>That said, I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing Ryan in a Canucks jersey&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;as long as his dad stays 2000 miles away in Ontario <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sergeikremlin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sergeikremlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t minor hockey, dad.  Let the player, agent, and team work this out.  

Here is the way I see this from each side:

AVS:

They don&#039;t want to hand out UFA-type salaries to their young RFA&#039;s.  They are pinching the pennies a little bit, but as a player, you are either on board (ala Duchene) or you&#039;re not.  They are finding this out in a harsh manner.

In Duchene&#039;s case, he accepted his deal and is currently leading the entire team (d-men included) in ice time, as well as points.  He sucked it up, went out there, and is earning his next contract. 

O&#039;REILLY:

He slipped to the 2nd round of the 2009 draft, but there are only three players in that entire class who have more points than him: John Tavares, Matt Duchene, and Evander Kane (all went in the top 4).  He looks at Tavares and Kane, who make $5.5 M and $5.25 M, respectively, and then Duchene and him who are falling $2M short.  He feels like the Avs are being cheap and the organization is costing him money.  

At the end of the day, there is about a 95% chance he is traded imo.  At that point, he will still have to negotiate a deal for more than $3.5 M per, start fresh and earn the trust of a new coach, and show that he can at least hit the 20 goal mark or eclipse 60+ points.  

I think the kid has really painted himself in a corner by not accepting the deal and showing what he can do on the ice.  It will be interesting to see who ponies up the cash to pay him and welcome he and his emerging &quot;entourage&quot; to the organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t minor hockey, dad.  Let the player, agent, and team work this out.  </p>
<p>Here is the way I see this from each side:</p>
<p>AVS:</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want to hand out UFA-type salaries to their young RFA&#8217;s.  They are pinching the pennies a little bit, but as a player, you are either on board (ala Duchene) or you&#8217;re not.  They are finding this out in a harsh manner.</p>
<p>In Duchene&#8217;s case, he accepted his deal and is currently leading the entire team (d-men included) in ice time, as well as points.  He sucked it up, went out there, and is earning his next contract. </p>
<p>O&#8217;REILLY:</p>
<p>He slipped to the 2nd round of the 2009 draft, but there are only three players in that entire class who have more points than him: John Tavares, Matt Duchene, and Evander Kane (all went in the top 4).  He looks at Tavares and Kane, who make $5.5 M and $5.25 M, respectively, and then Duchene and him who are falling $2M short.  He feels like the Avs are being cheap and the organization is costing him money.  </p>
<p>At the end of the day, there is about a 95% chance he is traded imo.  At that point, he will still have to negotiate a deal for more than $3.5 M per, start fresh and earn the trust of a new coach, and show that he can at least hit the 20 goal mark or eclipse 60+ points.  </p>
<p>I think the kid has really painted himself in a corner by not accepting the deal and showing what he can do on the ice.  It will be interesting to see who ponies up the cash to pay him and welcome he and his emerging &#8220;entourage&#8221; to the organization.</p>
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		<title>By: killerpgh</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[killerpgh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really? I think the Senators are happy with Turris and the Maple Leafs are happy with Kessel. If you are a good enough player other GM&#039;s will still try to pick you up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? I think the Senators are happy with Turris and the Maple Leafs are happy with Kessel. If you are a good enough player other GM&#8217;s will still try to pick you up.</p>
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		<title>By: mclovinhockey</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mclovinhockey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a bum. I do not care how good you are. Holding out like this just makes no team want you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bum. I do not care how good you are. Holding out like this just makes no team want you.</p>
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		<title>By: somekat</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[somekat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what is there, anywhere, that a man invests in more than his kids?

A human being? seriously?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is there, anywhere, that a man invests in more than his kids?</p>
<p>A human being? seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: hockeywithdrawal</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeywithdrawal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said, and I see your point completely now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, and I see your point completely now.</p>
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		<title>By: somekat</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138667</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[somekat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as with all things hockey, you are wrong]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as with all things hockey, you are wrong</p>
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		<title>By: dropthepuckeh</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138662</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dropthepuckeh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His dad is on Twitter? Yikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His dad is on Twitter? Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: ron05342</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ron05342]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There you go...I knew this clown reminded me of someone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you go&#8230;I knew this clown reminded me of someone.</p>
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		<title>By: hockeywithdrawal</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeywithdrawal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree...management is charged with the responsibility of building a team...they have done a poor job, and this is an example. THEY should be the ones practicing saying &quot;do you want fries with that&quot;...if they honestly will not pay the kid, then fine. Trade him, and NOW...regardless of how they feel about O&#039;Reilly, they haven&#039;t done their job. Trade him and get someone in there to play, or sign him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;management is charged with the responsibility of building a team&#8230;they have done a poor job, and this is an example. THEY should be the ones practicing saying &#8220;do you want fries with that&#8221;&#8230;if they honestly will not pay the kid, then fine. Trade him, and NOW&#8230;regardless of how they feel about O&#8217;Reilly, they haven&#8217;t done their job. Trade him and get someone in there to play, or sign him.</p>
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		<title>By: 19to77</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[19to77]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl Lindros, is that you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl Lindros, is that you?</p>
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		<title>By: ron05342</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ron05342]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really? You mean, his son, a human being, is nothing more than a material investment?

Don&#039;t think so, bud. His son is an adult who has an agent, no doubt a lawyer, and other advisors as well. Hopefully for him, his Dad is not one of them. Too emotional, and does stupid things like...like, those tweets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? You mean, his son, a human being, is nothing more than a material investment?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think so, bud. His son is an adult who has an agent, no doubt a lawyer, and other advisors as well. Hopefully for him, his Dad is not one of them. Too emotional, and does stupid things like&#8230;like, those tweets.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Halford</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Halford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meant they hold all the cards from a CBA/negotiation standpoint, which is pretty evident.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant they hold all the cards from a CBA/negotiation standpoint, which is pretty evident.</p>
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		<title>By: bcisleman</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/14/oreillys-dad-blasts-avs-management-via-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-138647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bcisleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His dad probably shouldn&#039;t have made those tweets but the as much business comment was off the wall. His dad undoubtedly invested a lot of his life in Ryan&#039;s career. He surely has earned the right to spout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His dad probably shouldn&#8217;t have made those tweets but the as much business comment was off the wall. His dad undoubtedly invested a lot of his life in Ryan&#8217;s career. He surely has earned the right to spout.</p>
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		<title>By: bcisleman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bcisleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Avs hold all the cards? Really, Mike? Have you looked at where they are in the standings? They are dead last in their conference 6 points out of a playoff spot. Unless they are writing off the season, they NEED a return on O&#039; Reilly NOW!!! If they are writing off the season, Av fans probably won&#039;t be terribly understanding of management&#039;s position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Avs hold all the cards? Really, Mike? Have you looked at where they are in the standings? They are dead last in their conference 6 points out of a playoff spot. Unless they are writing off the season, they NEED a return on O&#8217; Reilly NOW!!! If they are writing off the season, Av fans probably won&#8217;t be terribly understanding of management&#8217;s position.</p>
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		<title>By: ron05342</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ron05342]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a moron.

His dad has about as much business in this deal as I do. And by tweeting such drivel, he is just making himself out to be a fool.

Too bad. Guess his son will just have to suck it up and make believe the lockout was for the entire season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a moron.</p>
<p>His dad has about as much business in this deal as I do. And by tweeting such drivel, he is just making himself out to be a fool.</p>
<p>Too bad. Guess his son will just have to suck it up and make believe the lockout was for the entire season.</p>
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		<title>By: valoisvipers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valoisvipers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I side with the Ave&#039;s management on this one. One good season shouldn&#039;t leave you set for life.Suck it up like Subban did or sit there and practice saying Do you want fries with that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I side with the Ave&#8217;s management on this one. One good season shouldn&#8217;t leave you set for life.Suck it up like Subban did or sit there and practice saying Do you want fries with that?</p>
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