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Holmgren: ‘I don’t foresee us making a move’

Feb 13, 2013, 1:23 PM EDT

Paul Holmgren AP

Flyers GM Paul Holmgren has never been accused of being afraid to make a big move; however, such a move isn’t in his plans at the moment.

“I think we have a nucleus of good, young players,” Holmgren said yesterday, per CSNPhilly.com.

“To talk about disrupting that is not something that I am in favor of doing. We have not played exactly how I thought we would have played.

“We’re missing some key people [Scott Hartnell and Andrej Meszaros] right now. We can’t use that as an excuse. Other teams have similar issues going. We’re going to ride this out for now.

“I don’t anticipate doing anything. Obviously, there is lots of talk going on right now. Everyone is doing their due diligence, but I don’t foresee us making a move.”

The Flyers (6-7-1) won last night in Winnipeg for just the second time in eight games away from Wells Fargo Center. Their six-game road stretch continues Friday in New Jersey.

Holmgren’s tune could change if his team still isn’t clicking as the April 3 trade deadline approaches, but with all the offensive talent the Flyers boast, the best move may be giving them time to figure it out.

  1. f2maestro - Feb 13, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    The Flyers will find their legs and will be clicking before we know it. As much as I enjoy the Flyer’s struggles, I know (being a Pen’s fan) how tough injuries to key players can play a big role in a team finding it’s form, especially early on in a season. Unfortunately for the Flyers, the impact injuries have seems to double due to the compressed season.

    • vismund11 - Feb 15, 2013 at 4:04 PM

      As a Flyers fan I respect your non-biased assessment. I applaud you, sir.

  2. jpelle82 - Feb 13, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    you know he isnt gonna stop taking phone calls though

  3. jaredphi - Feb 13, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    For once, I think Homer means what he says. I don’t think a big move is in the cards…as of right now at least.

  4. chrisvegas - Feb 13, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    This is really a young Flyers team when you start looking at how young many of these players are 25 or under. G, Simmonds, Coult, both Schenns, Voracek, McGinn, Read (25 i think), Rinaldo, Sestito ect….. I think Holmgren is right to keep this core together. They may not be a cup contender this year, but they may still make the playoffs. Even if they don’t make the playoffs this will be a better team next year just by allowing these guys to gain a year of experience. Very young team and they need time to grow. That being said I think if this team added a top line forward to play with Giroux they would become dangerous.

  5. jimw81 - Feb 13, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    how many times did he say that before?

  6. philly4lyfe - Feb 13, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    im pretty sure he said the same thing at the end of the season 2 years ago, almost word for word. a few weeks later, hello bryz and goodbye richards and carter.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 13, 2013 at 4:53 PM

      Yeah but that was when there was a clear issue with Goaltending and they needed to clear cap space to make a move. Bryz was the big acquisition to fix a sustained problem that has existed in Philly since the heyday of Hextall. Right now there isn’t one glaring issue that can be addressed with a singular move. They just have a bunch of young, talented players who are mired in slumps. The defense has really solidified (with the exception of the Toronto game) and there is obvious, albeit struggling, talent up front. Bringing in Bobby Ryan to play on Girouxs wing is one move that could help, but it’s gonna cost you atleast Couturier. It’s not worth it. Plus Hartnell’s return is the equivalent of adding a scoring power forward. They’re playing without Couturier, Hartnell, and Mezsaros right now and those are 3 integral players. Eventually things just hafta start clicking, but in the meantime the Flyers should stand pat for once.

  7. aclassyguyfromaclassytown - Feb 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    I agree with Homer in the fact that the Flyers have a lot of young talent, but I see that talent being in their offense and will probably take quite a while to really come together and become the offensive force they have the potential to be, while they still need help on defense. At the end of last season it was obvious (to me at least) that they needed to get another quality defenseman, and I liked that they tried to get Weber, but once that fell through what kept them from continuing to pursue another quality D-man? It’s like they said “We really need to fix this problem” then tried and failed and said “You know, it really isn’t a problem anyway”, but it is a problem.

  8. jkay1818 - Feb 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    @chrisvegas,you’re riding on a lot, read, brayden schenn, simmonds, giroux and cout are nice players, real good but sestito and rinadlo as part of the core? That’s an issue if you’re relying on those two. read, schenn and cout are all good players but if they end up as 15-25 goal guys a year, a lot of fans would be mightily disappointed. I think the media and some Flyer fans are the main culprits of this, but there is no telling if those guys will ever be real superstars as a lot of fans and some media tout them. While you might be getting nice players out of them, i dont think an early 80s oiler team is being built here. JVR is the most impressive of the bunch and he was traded. He was a beast in the yr the flyers made it to the cup, he’s fun t watch and I dont think Luke schenn is the answer, after seeing him in person and on TV since he came up, he doesn’t play his size, he’s pretty soft. Definitely keep the core because you cant risk trading guys like a JVR but maybe some of the issue is expecting too much from these younger guys.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:06 PM

      I don’t think management ever questioned JVRs potential to be a star, but with the Flyers he was the epitome of inconsistent. I mean there were stretches of about 5 games where he was skating like a freight train and no one could contain him. Then he’d immediately follow that up with 15 or so games where you didn’t even know he was on the team. Having a gluttony of forwards with potential they had to address their most important need: defense. And since JVR was an epic disappointment last season they took a calculated risk and made a solid hockey trade for Schenn. It’s easy to look back now, with JVR tearing it up, and say if they kept him they would be scoring. But Schenn has become a force on the backend, idk what you’re watching this season. He, Timonen, Coburn, and Grossman have formed a solid top-4. And with JVRs penchant for disappearing coupled with Schenns consistency this year, I’d still make that trade. Maybe JVR has finally found it but I’d be willing to bet he’ll go into ghost mode at some point this abbreviated season.

  9. mojosmagic - Feb 13, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    This is clearly a man without a plan. He signs Richard’s and Carter long term and trades both, he trades for Versteig then trades him in the off season, he signs Jaguar then lets him walk after one great year, he trades a good young backup goaltender with nobody to replace him, he is light on defense but lets Carl walk. The entire off season was predicated on rejected offer sheets from a number of players that left Holmgren holding the bag. Paul Holmgren doesn’t know his sorry @ss from a hole in the ground.

    • jimw81 - Feb 13, 2013 at 4:39 PM

      He had a deal for jagr on table but he was chasing parise and suter just like the other 29 other teams but jagr decided not to wait to hear back from paul decided to go to dallas on his own terms. he did come into this offseason with no plan besides signing dead weight. i begin to wonder if he thought the lockout would last all season.

      As for carter and richards, it had to be done. he no other choice. they were a problem on and off the ice. Matt Carle was and still is a turnover machine. The luke Schenn and JVR is trade that benefits the needs of both teams.

      Ed Snider and Paul Holmgren isnt going to tolerate this play of inconsistency any longer. Some kinda of move will be done soon.

    • ml3939 - Feb 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM

      If your magic is stupidity, you have excelled. Your inane little rant clearly reads as a flyers-hater who has only seen the flyers play when they play against your team. Richards and Carter were traded after their leadership or lack there of clearly became apparent the year following their cup loss. That coupled with emergence of Giroux. Holmgren could have traded Hartnell to send a message to those two but he didn’t, and in turn Hartnell blossomed into an all star and Giroux a superstar. Richards and Carter may have won a cup but they were not the reason their team won the cup, they were auxiliary parts.

      If you watched Versteeg’s short tenure here, you would have traded him too. His play was ridden with mistakes. He was like the kid who plays in mites on ice during the intermission that was pretty good at skating around the ice but had no clue as what to do with the puck. Good for Holmgren to dismiss his mistake rather than let it linger trying to possibly correcting itself.

      It would have been nice to keep Jagr, not the cat you referenced, but he did seem to get hurt frequently and his play tailed off greatly at the end of the year. He only has 5 points in 11 games since opening night, so he’s not exactly tearing it up.

      Bob may turn into a very good goalie but he was an expensive back up. It appears Bryz is gonna pay a whole lot anyway so barring injury it’s not of much consequence at this time. It’s not as if Bryz has Dipietro’s injury history.

      Again, if you watched the Flyers on a regular basis, you would know Carle is not that good- shoots soft, shoots wide, does not play the body well and not a very good passer. His stats are inflated due to his ice time and the talent around him. He gets a lot more space on the ice when he is out there with the likes of Pronger, Giroux, Stamkos, etc. If he were that good of a defenseman, he would not be on his fourth NHL stop already. It’s not like he is netting his former teams a king’s ransom in return.

      And since he has been here, Holmgren has added talent like Briere, Hartnell, Timmonen, Pronger and Coburn, drafted Giroux, Couturier, McGinn, and Laughton to name a few. He also got the best of the Carter and Richards trades. It also not his fault that Pronger was lost to a career ending injury. Kind of a tough loss for any team to make up for.

      And who exactly rejected his offer sheet(s) as iI am pretty sure Weber signed his?

      It appears to me that the only person that does not know their ass from a hole in the ground is you and any teacher that let you advance a grade level.

      • jimw81 - Feb 13, 2013 at 8:26 PM

        ” drafted Giroux”

        he was a one of Clarke’s last prospects.

        “It would have been nice to keep Jagr, not the cat you referenced, but he did seem to get hurt frequently and his play tailed off greatly at the end of the year. He only has 5 points in 11 games since opening night, so he’s not exactly tearing it up.”

        Where was he at the end of season and in the playoffs? I didn’t see him but i did see a guy wearing a #68 huffing and buffing up and down the ice.

        “Richards and Carter were traded after their leadership or lack there of clearly became apparent the year following their cup loss. That coupled with emergence of Giroux. Holmgren could have traded Hartnell to send a message to those two but he didn’t, and in turn Hartnell blossomed into an all star and Giroux a superstar.”

        Come on. Every Flyers fan knew why there traded.

        “Again, if you watched the Flyers on a regular basis, you would know Carle is not that good- shoots soft, shoots wide, does not play the body well and not a very good passer. His stats are inflated due to his ice time and the talent around him.”

        He has one of the weakest shots in the league and continues to make the same mental mistakes today as he did as a flyer even with playing good defenseman core in tampa. Did you see the end of the last flyers vs bolts game? Yea, he bailed the flyers out defensively, stop putting him on this high petal stool.

        “And who exactly rejected his offer sheet(s) as iI am pretty sure Weber signed his?”
        Weber is interesting case. He wanted his payday before new cba so flyers bit and he got it now Weber is paying the price for playing Nashville for one season.

        Now with the Ponikarovsky trade to Devils it puts more pressure on the flyers to make a deal.

      • ml3939 - Feb 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM

        Actually I forgot, Giroux was drafted by Clarke who forgot his name at the podium. Really he was Simon Nolet’s prospect. Otherwise, I am not sure what you are trying to do here with the cut and paste of my statements and essentially reiterating my thoughts. Kind of redundant.

  10. mojosmagic - Feb 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    And I forgot he trades a future dominate power forward JVR for a good but not great Luke Schenn.

  11. beelza - Feb 13, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    North America doesn’t foresee you winning a cup in the future.

  12. hockeyfan28 - Feb 13, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Doesn’t surprise me the flyers seem committed to this group….they honestly need two guys two make a finals run a qb for the power play and a power forward for Claude to setup till then they’ll be a young team who looks good one night and lousy the next so if they make the playoffs much less a round I guess that would be somewhat of a success

  13. uscthom78 - Feb 13, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    Holmgren is known to lie (ask JC about that) so take what he says at face value.

  14. bigdong28 - Feb 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    I love it. Holmgren is one of the best GM’s in the league IMO. This RUMOR here means as much as the team’s record does at this point in the season. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

    The Blackhawks looks unstoppable right now but as hockey fans, we know they won’t be as successful come playoff time.

    Confidence & chemistry are the most important aspects come playoff time. Those aspects are only achieved when a team overcomes adversity during the regular season.

    It’s a great sport & I love how IT IS ANYONE’S CUP at this point.

  15. macjacmccoy - Feb 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Um… they have started to click. 4-1-1 doesnt sound like a team that is still lost.

  16. vismund11 - Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Dude can’t score anymore, can’t fight worth a goddamn. What happened to you, Ovi? You used to be beautiful.

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