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Watch: Leafs’ Holzer tossed for boarding major on Flyers’ McGinn

Feb 11, 2013, 9:32 PM EDT

Toronto Maple Leafs defenseman Korbinian Holzer might be the next subject of a supplementary discipline meeting with the National Hockey League, after driving Philadelphia Flyers forward Tye McGinn face-first into the end boards Monday.

The incident occurred in the second period. Holzer was given a major penalty for boarding and a game misconduct.


  1. jimw81 - Feb 11, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    5 mins and game misconduct is fine. Flyers killed the power play off for them anyway.

  2. bobhpine - Feb 11, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Part of the boarding penalty addresses whether the player guards against the blow. This McGinn guy goes in head down every time, completely unsuspecting.

    Start the chorus of Philly Flygirls’ opining about class…


    • mclovinhockey - Feb 12, 2013 at 2:14 PM

      this is why flyers fans do not need to argue to prove they are the better classier fan base.

  3. orangeandblack67 - Feb 11, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    The 1975 chirps are getting old. The flyers are continually in contention for the cup year after year, it’s a lot more than other teams can say.

  4. stakex - Feb 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Its a bit of a hit from behind for sure, but I don’t see a suspension here.

    First of all, McGinn turned almost as the hit was coming which made it a lot worse then it would have been. Also, it wasn’t a nasty hit with Holzer driving him into the boards or anything… it was a small push while McGinn was in an awkward position (due to his sudden turn), which caused him to lose his balance going into the boards. Five and a game is sufficient.

  5. hockeywithdrawal - Feb 11, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    Didn’t seem like that hard a hit. But is from behind – I’d have let him buy the minor, but no more. Especially since this is the second time in two games that McGinn has pulled this one.

    • biasedhomer - Feb 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM

      Let’s not arrest the thief for robbing the bank, because that same bank was robbed 2 days ago.

      These comment sections never cease to amuse.

      • sunderlanding - Feb 12, 2013 at 1:32 AM

        If the bank leaves their money on the doorstep two days in a row maybe it becomes their fault?

      • biasedhomer - Feb 12, 2013 at 6:07 AM

        Still doesn’t make it right for anyone to take the money.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 12, 2013 at 8:58 AM

        This case I do see a cross-check in the back, but little more than a firm bump. Certainly nothing that should have ended with a major penalty. And certainly no suspension. I do, however, see a penalty.

        I do think (since we’ve talked about this poor guy two games in a row now) that Peter needs to sit him down and talk to him…you know, so he doesn’t get hurt. There’s some onus on the lad.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 12, 2013 at 3:36 AM

      Wow what a surprise… hockeywithdrawal sees a Flyers page, clicks, and trolls. Your constant accusations of Flyers players diving have no bearing on reality. He was in a vulnerable position and is hit from behind into the boards. It was a clear penalty and there was no sort of embellishment. No suspension necessary. But no dive either.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 12, 2013 at 8:01 AM

        Why do you think this is a Flyers page, and not a Leafs’ page?

  6. ml3939 - Feb 11, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Bob loves 1975, that was the first time the Penguins filed for bankruptcy and the same year they blew a playoff series they were leading 3-0. Let him revel in it.

    • bobhpine - Feb 11, 2013 at 11:00 PM

      since 1975 … you 0… pens…3


    • bobhpine - Feb 11, 2013 at 11:04 PM

      Too bad bankruptcy scores matter to zero people outside of your pathetic city

      • ml3939 - Feb 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM

        Are you so bitter because the Pens were nothing more than an AHL franchise skating around the NHL prior to 1990 and the only reason they exist today is because they intentionally lost games to draft Mario Lemieux? Suffering through those years in your mom’s basement in your 30’s-50’s would make anyone bitter.

  7. nunan - Feb 11, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Despite what the broadcaster says, this is not ‘intent’ to injure. People throw that term around too loosely, implying that the penalized player went out of his way to injure the other player. Some of these hits are ugly but 99% aren’t on purpose. These hits to the head and hits from behind only ever happen because of the speed of the game not because one player wants to hurt the other. Everyone knows how touchy the whole contact to the head and hitting from behind subjects are. None of them are stupid enough to go head hunting or boarding from behind. The illegal contact might be there but it is rarely ‘intent to injure’. The days of Cooke and Torres are over. Those guys had intent.

    • sheckyrimshot - Feb 12, 2013 at 12:14 AM

      speaking as a flyers fan, you can’t take anything steve coates says seriously.

  8. bobhpine - Feb 11, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Hey guys we are IN CONTENTION for the Stanley Cup every year, we have a lot of idiot fans who pay money to watch their team lose…that makes us worthy…of…something


    • jimw81 - Feb 11, 2013 at 11:39 PM

      your hockey knowledge is amazing! So what year did you join the pens bandwagon? when gary gave you crosby and malkin?

    • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:15 AM

      The arrogant, aloof attitude of Pens fans is just disgusting. You and hockeywithdrawal wrote the PHT book on trolling. Apparently humility and modesty are unheard of traits in the city of Pittsburgh. A city where it’s so easy to be a bandwagon, fair weather fan because you’re unfairly rewarded for giving up on your team. A city where hockey was dead before the chronic plague of losing handed you two superstars. You didn’t need to build a team, you had one dropped in your lap after every single Pens “fan” turned off their tvs and avoided the igloo at all costs. You would’ve rather gone to a Pirates game than sit through that embarrassment you called a hockey team. Now all of a sudden you’re the authority on franchise success? No you’re a faithless joke who only sticks with his team when it’s easy; when they’re on top. At the first sign of trouble you’ll be back in your western PA hole, hiding for another decade. You’re right about one thing… we do pay money when we’re losing, because that’s what real fans do. That’s something you Pittsburgh “fans” have shown you will never understand.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 12, 2013 at 9:08 AM

        You can probably take me off your stalker list, I was only giving my opinion – and I think it’s a valid side to the argument. But since you brought that up – do you think Pens fans would even give two sh*ts if it weren’t for the obnoxious, arrogant, unintelligent, and trashy remarks about the Pens and Crosby everytime there is something written? And YOU, sir, are a prime suspect for all that. You don’t hesitate to bash, yet you can’t take what you give. So it’s just crying. And…who cares what you think? You’re from Philly, you don’t matter! :)

      • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 13, 2013 at 12:17 AM

        there’s no need to “stalk” you, you show up on EVERY single Flyers related page, with baseless insults and asinine conjecture. You seem to care plenty, as the need to instigate arguments and insult the city of Philadelphia (a place you’ve probably never been) has reached the level of a complex. I comment on your posts because they are so insulting, unrealistic, and devoid of fact that to leave them alone would be a disservice to my fellow PHT readers. Your posts are filled with rabid hypocrisy- you don’t care yet you can’t stop sharing your uninformed opinions; you only comment in response to “obnoxious” Flyers fans yet here you are once again on a page that has absolutely nothing to do with the Pens; I give insults but can’t receive, yet here you are doing just that. Try to contribute something worthwhile to any conversation, anywhere on this site, other than just the same stereotypical “the Cryers are dirty cheap shot artists and divers, etc”.

  9. mclovinhockey - Feb 12, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    To be fair, the pens earned Malkin. They were near last and then they decided tank toward the end of the year for him.

    But yeah Crosby was a gift from Gary because he knew if the pens didn’t get him they would have been sold and moved to a city with a fan base that can support a team.

    • sunderlanding - Feb 12, 2013 at 1:36 AM

      Go Steelers?

    • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 12, 2013 at 9:12 AM

      Holy crap…you guys say you hate him, then act all hurt because we got him. You are doing a good job of tanking this year too…you can get McKinnon if you want. But you have Schenn, a high first round center that was brought in to early, you have Couturier, a high first round center that was brought in too early, you have Laughton, you have Giroux, all first round centers…you HAD JVR who looks like a beast now that he’s out of a bad organization…what more do you want? There’s just no reason to start the whole ‘you tanked to get picks’ thing, you guys have a lot of talent on that team.

      • mclovinhockey - Feb 12, 2013 at 3:14 PM

        ummm when the pens tanked to get malkin (actually I think they were aiming for AO but did only managed to get the 2nd overall pick), they were sitting some of their better players near the end of the year when they were healthy… Philly is still in contention for a playoff spot. Tanking a season is when you lose on purpose like the pens did.

        In case you did not know crosby was a draft pick during the lockout so that lotto was created by Gary. Oddly enough Mario already had a room ready for Crosby after visiting him and talking to him WELL BEFORE the lotto happened.

        So yeah the pens managed to get MAF, Malkin, Crosby and Staal in 4 years due to having crappy seasons and some help behind the scenes, not bad huh. Philly traded for most the players you mentioned, Giroux they got late in a draft and JVR was our one bad year where Philly was the worst team in the league (still had the 7th best attendance in the league which was a lot higher than Pitt) and they did not get to get Kane like their paly deserved because of the same lotto.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 12, 2013 at 3:23 PM

        I’m sure it’s not your intention but it sounds like crying, just a bit. Well, whatever they did, I agree with you completely that the Pens are a much better team than the Flyers. Better watch out, too, conspriacy theorists…Sid and Mario are already brainwashing Connor McDavid, and I hear Bettman’s all for it…|PIT|home


      • mclovinhockey - Feb 12, 2013 at 3:44 PM

        how is that crying. I was simply telling you about the past few years between our franchises for the sections you brought up. I guess it was all in how you read it but take the message how you want.

        No clue why you think I ever said the pens are a better team than the Flyers. I said you guys had some good drafts due to having a bad team, tanking when you did not make the playoffs and Gary Bettman wanting to do what ever he could to save the franchise from being sold because they were costing the league millions of dollars a year since no fans wanted to support the team. The Flyers constantly stayed a good team since we could afford any player we want as free agents because our fans have always been there which is why we are compared to other fan bases who are known for being the best fans in the league like Montreal and Toronto, while when pitt is talked about they are compared to fan bases like the caps.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:06 PM

        Ahhh…I do appreciate the history lesson – and your concern. But we’re doing very well on this side of the state. Attendence is pretty much 100% night in, night out, the bankruptcy days are long gone, and we topped Forbes list of best NHL fans published last November…followed by Montreal, then Toronto, then Chicago, THEN…you guessed it….Edmonton…nope, no Philly. We also (hopefully) don’t have to worry about trying to make any more deals with a greedy, dirty, stinking-of-bacon-grease-and-mob-ties Governor (who just happened to be from Philly). If you are so wrapped up in history, let’s go back a little further to 1975…sound familiar?

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

        So to your point…according to the most recent poll I’ve found, it’s Pittsburgh that is known for beind the best fans. If you’ve got some other facts you’re sitting on, now would be the time.

      • mclovinhockey - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM

        I guess I should trust the article that says Malkin was drafter the year after Crosby and says Atlanta has bad fans when they do not have a team anymore.
        I would rather go to a really hockey site/ magazine and look to see which fan base is ranked higher.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

        You do that.

        Cheers –

      • mclovinhockey - Feb 12, 2013 at 6:41 PM

        lol its funny cause that article is also based on ticket prices, parking prices, concession (all of which has nothing to do with the team or franchise) as well as TV ratings (pitt was putt on national TV more than any team last year so of course they will have more viewers) and nothing really that has anything to do with the fans.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 13, 2013 at 8:07 AM

  10. flyeredup - Feb 12, 2013 at 7:32 AM

    JVR for Schenn? Sigh. We god crushed on that trade.

    • mclovinhockey - Feb 12, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      I would not say crushed… we just should have gotten more.

  11. jazzyherb - Feb 12, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    The pirates won the World Series in 1979

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