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Schneider’s agent wants resolution to Canucks goaltending issue

Feb 5, 2013, 12:25 PM EDT

Roberto Luongo congratulated by Cory Schneider Getty Images

Canucks goalie Cory Schneider has been nothing but a good soldier as Roberto Luongo — the man he was supposed to replace as Vancouver’s number one — has started four straight games.

“It’s just some adversity,” Schneider said recently. “I don’t cry myself to sleep at night, I don’t feel bad for myself. I just have to work hard and be better.”

But make no mistake, sitting on the bench is an issue for the 26-year-old who’s waited more than patiently for his chance to start in the NHL since being drafted 26th overall by the Canucks in 2004.

Just agent Schneider’s agent, Mike Liut.

“If they are both there for the entire season, and it’s a 48-game season, and Roberto plays 40 games, that’s a disaster,” Liut told the Vancouver Sun yesterday. “That’s an extreme and I don’t think that’s going to happen, but certainly the sooner [there's a resolution] the better.

“Vancouver has a decision to make with their goaltending, everybody knows that. We don’t need to add more to it than that. Everyone wants it resolved and if it can get resolved that will be better for everybody.”

Meanwhile, Canucks GM Mike Gillis is backing head coach Alain Vigneault’s decision to stick with Luongo, whose .940 save percentage is second to only Ottawa’s Craig Anderson (.964) among goalies with more than three starts.

“We are conscious of ice time and we have to win games,” Gillis said today on TEAM 1040 radio. “We don’t have the luxury of people’s feelings.”

As for how this all plays out, “nothing will surprise me,” says Liut.

  1. hockeywithdrawal - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Oh man this is getting good…I kind of side with Canucks management, is that wrong? Sh*t it’s a short season, go with the hot hand to get the points quick. I’m sure they’ll rotate them more later. I can’t see anyone going anywhere until this summer.

    • davebabychreturns - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM

      In my opinion when you take into account the Canucks salary cap situation they have to deal Luongo for picks and/or prospects (the value of that package is not something I want to get into here as I know there’s a huge range of opinion on that subject) because the Canucks will be close to the cap next year, even if they lose a $4m salary or two in addition to Luongo it will be tough to fill out a complete roster.

      So in light of that there is little point dealing the league’s best insurance policy (in net) for some picks or prospects that will almost certainly not contribute this year.

      Acquiring Roberto Luongo is a major move, and I don’t think there would be any teams serious about doing it now that would completely change their tune come this offseason – so waiting can’t hurt. Elliotte Friedman quoted Lou Lamoriello today as saying that “if you have time [as a GM], use it” and in this context I completely agree.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM

        One thing is for sure…Luongo is not hurting his market value.

      • jl9830 - Feb 5, 2013 at 2:37 PM

        You understand you have to sign Schneider though, right? So he’s going to cost some money on a 4 or 5 year deal. May as well trade Schneider because he would bring more back.

      • sunderlanding - Feb 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM

        The only problem is the longer the wait the worse it looks to other players. Do you think potential free agents would be excited about signing with a team that holds your furture in jeopardy to get another pick in a trade? Everyone knows they’re going to trade him. Both goalies want it to be over. Do the guy a favor and hurry up and trade him. The deal isn’t going to get that much sweeter that’s it’s worth making your organization look bad.

      • davebabychreturns - Feb 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM

        @jl9830, yes the Canucks are going to have to re-sign Schneider but he’s shown zero interest in snubbing the organization thusfar (people may not remember, he could have held off on signing a deal with them coming out of college and they would have lost his rights) so I don’t think it will be a problem. Nevermind that at the end of Schneider’s deal he will be 29 to Luongo’s 36.

        @sunderlanding, the point isn’t really to “get another pick” it’s to have two elite goaltenders for another season, rather than an elite goaltender and a handful of picks and/or prospects who do nothing to help the NHL team win games. I don’t think holding off makes the organization look bad frankly, I’m sure both players know exactly where they stand, the obstacles that are in the way of a resolution and that the team is likely going to hold onto both of them until a deal actually makes sense.

        Both men are known for their professionalism (and their great working relationship for that matter), I don’t see this causing any friction at all despite being sub-optimal for them.

  2. davebabychreturns - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    I see nothing controversial about Liut’s comments, hell even Brough’s attempt to make a sexy headline is pretty blase: “Agent Wants What’s Best for Client”

    Right now we have someone in Schneider’s camp saying “one particular outcome would be disastrous, but we don’t think it would ever happen; another outcome would be better for all involved and I hope it comes soon.”

    Another quote from the same article “we are not going to get into the finger-pointing game and to that end you have to take a step back and you have to give them latitude to make a business decision.”

    Shocker!

    • Jason Brough - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM

      My original headline was:
      SCHNEIDER’S AGENT: IT’S GOING TO BE A “DISASTER”

      • davebabychreturns - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM

        Oh my god that would have been gold.

      • elvispocomo - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:59 PM

        That’ll sell some papers!

      • phillyphever - Feb 5, 2013 at 2:14 PM

        Why did you scrap it? That is pure gold right there.

    • elvispocomo - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM

      Yup, all pretty reasonable stuff from the agent getting asked about his client who he wants to succeed.

      Liut does outline a worst case scenario where Schneider gets stuck in a minimal backup role but that’s highly unlikely to happen. Even keeping both all season is more likely to resemble an even split than Luongo getting 80% of the starts.

      As it stands, it’s a 60/40 split and Schneider will likely get the next start in Minnesota. Last year it was a 60/40 split as well. Year before was 70/30. They’ve never had a 80/20 split in workload, even with Schneider as a rookie, and I don’t see it happening this year in a 48 game season.

  3. jpelle82 - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    demand a trade. make it easy for everyone and all this crap will be over with. there’s about 10 teams that would give their first born for you right now and you know it. stop being the nice guy, you’re gonna be 30 something before you get a number one job if you let them do this to you. force their hand because we all know the canucks cant trade luongo or they wouldve by now

    • davebabychreturns - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM

      Yawn.

      • dangle13x - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:18 PM

        Any man on this Earth that pays due respect to the almighty Dave Babych is a friend of mine.

    • comeonnowguys - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM

      OK, I’ll bite. Which 10?

    • elvispocomo - Feb 5, 2013 at 2:03 PM

      Considering Gillis was looking for offers for Schneider before the deadline last year, but didn’t feel he was getting enough back to complete a trade. You can bet with Schneider’s contract, potential and age he’d be asking for more than Luongo as a comparison.

      Sure, someone might come back with a significant offer for Schneider now, and Gillis would move him if it improved the Canucks, but I don’t see it as likely as getting an offer similar to what he’s looking for for Luongo.

  4. lionstigersandwingsohmy - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    “Vancouver has a decision to make with it’s goaltending”. Sitting your boy and playing Luongo is a decision, just not the one you want. Also, if Schnieder gets in 8 games and Lungo 40, but the Canucks win the Stanley Cup, isn’t that the ultimate goal of every player?

  5. stakex - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    In reality, the smart thing for the Canucks to do if they absolutely have to trade one of the goalies this season is to trade Schneider. The guy has played all of 72 NHL games, and he faltered when he got his shot at being a starter. Not to mention he has a $4 million cap hit, which is a lot for a goalie with virtually no experience as a starter. Hes far more of a question mark then Luongo is. Luongo has been quite solid for the canucks over the years (some trouble in the playoffs aside), is clearly playing better now, and thanks to the length of his contract a lot of teams won’t be interested in him.

    Its actually a funny situation in which the goalie whos playing better probably has the lower trade value.

    • dangle13x - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM

      HA! Some trouble in the playoffs?

      • jpelle82 - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

        just “some” trouble and only on the road…you know…only half the time he has trouble in the playoffs

  6. jessethegreat - Feb 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Keep the guy that’s at least proven he can lead you to the playoffs and get what you can for the kid.

    How would vancouver feel if they trade luo later to find out that Schneider doesn’t have “it” come playoff time either?

  7. jhuck92 - Feb 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Oh great. An LA Lakers kind of melodrama in the NHL… just what we need to bring back the fans

  8. pandorasdadca - Feb 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Does it really matter who’s between the pipes in Vancouver? They’ll flame out come post season again regardless of which goalie starts.

  9. thehighcountrybear - Feb 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Of course Liut has a right to offer an opinion…he must also be prepared to accept liabilities arising as a consequence of injuries from people falling down in laughter and sneering derision! Hell, if managers and owners need advice from goalies, they should tap the CBC, it’s overrun with experts who once played goal…

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