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Fight Video: Rinaldo knocks out Crombeen

Feb 5, 2013, 8:36 PM EDT

It didn’t take long for Philly tough guy Zac Rinaldo and Tampa Bay enforcer BJ Crombeen to find each other during Tuesday night’s Flyers-Lightning game — 6:19 into the first period, to be exact.

Crombeen, though, probably wishes he hadn’t found Rinaldo:

Not a pleasant scene, obviously, though it should be noted Crombeen is an experienced fighter — 69 career NHL tilts, according to Frank Seravalli of the Phiadelphia Daily News.

Crombeen left the contest and didn’t return for the remainder of the period.

Update: The Lightning have reported that Crombeen will return for the second period, a decision that’s probably going to raise some eyebrows about concussion protocol.

Update 2: According to Erik Erlendsson of the Tampa Tribune, the Lightning have reversed course and decided to hold Crombeen out for the remainder of the game as a precautionary measure.

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  1. flyeredup - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    Bruins fans, take note.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:52 PM

      When crombeen looked up at the ref after coming too, he thought it was Chris Tucker in the movie Friday !

    • nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM

      I take note only because if that were a Bruin knocking someone out, everyone would blow up in the comment section talking about how dirty the Bs are. Par for the course.

    • cowboys282 - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM

      Hey Flyers fans, take note

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:31 PM

        whats your point ?

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:51 PM

        sestito is a goal scorer not a fighter

      • nosefacekillah - Feb 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

        If Sestito is a considered a goal scorer Lucic must be Gretzky like!

    • drewsylvania - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

      WTH does this have to do with the Bruins?

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:00 PM

        i could not agree with you more, the true inforcers in this league are monsters ,,, 6’6′ and above 260 or more ! Zac better stay in his lane or he might have little birdies flying around his feathered haircut for a long time !

    • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 6, 2013 at 8:20 AM

      Rinaldo won 13.3% of his fights last year, and Flyer fans are acting like he can take on anyone….why doesn’t this surprise me? I guess you gotta cheer on SOMETHING, even if it’s that.

      • bigblackzaranek - Feb 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM

        Lets just see how corey tropp feels about rinaldo lol

      • jpelle82 - Feb 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

        cory tropp smoked him. rinaldo is terrible at fighting and undersized for it, he should leave it up to sesito or shelley

    • pouncex23 - Feb 6, 2013 at 2:23 PM

      Should the Bruin fans also take note how the Flyers have lost 6 games already?

  2. razevedo85 - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Bruins fans, take note. GOOD LUCK. Why don’t you tell him to go after Lucic or McQuaid and see how he does!

  3. broadstbully33 - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Lol not hard to beat someone when u have 40 lbs and 5 inches on somebody….

    • xflyersx - Feb 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM

      Crombeen is listed at 6’2″ 210 lbs
      Rinaldo is listed at 5’11” 169 lbs

      Sooo maybe reword your comment?

  4. steelers88 - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Rinaldo scares the hell out of me. I thought I was going witness a death tonight. I wouldn’t want Rinaldo on my team.

  5. nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    By the way…Voracek was embellishing an elbow to head. Never touched his head. Flyer fans…take note.

    • mclovinhockey - Feb 6, 2013 at 5:41 PM

      actually he got a shoulder right to the chin… he was not embellishing, bill clement just called it wrong

  6. redsoxchamp11 - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    cheapshots by rinaldo. you dont hit a man on his knees.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:16 PM

      wrong watch again

    • vismund11 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:20 PM

      Tell that to Lecavalier who got in at least three shots on Talbot while he was on the ground. Lecav needs to score and stop acting tough.

      • jpelle82 - Feb 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM

        it was one shot when he was on his back and its talbot’s dumbass fault for trying to fight him in the first place. i cant think of a single fight he has won and i’m a pens fan who has watched every game for the last 10 years…he does pick his opportunities well but he never wins

  7. sjsharks66 - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Rinaldo throwing punches while the other guy is down. Yeah bruins, take notes! Because despite everyones “hate” for lucic and chara i have yet to see them keep throwing while someone is down.

    Rinaldo should not even be in the NHL. He is terrible at hockey and a dirty/dangerous player.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

      Here’s the real deal the bolts beefed up for road games with a few inforcers ! The former tuff guy from the Blues crombeen offered out zak ,zak accepted ! Crombeen got knocked the #u%K out that’s about it don’t make anymore or less of it ! Zak was wired for game you can clearly hear crombeenhead saying you wanna go !

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:02 PM

        Just because Crombeen wanted to go Rinaldo still isn’t justified in throwing punches after he was down. That fight was awesome right up until that ridiculously gutless display.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:08 PM

        he did not hit him when he was down he hit him on the way down totally different Zac was wired and even asked the ref and the ref told renaldo everything was cool so keep trying

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:48 PM

        If he was going down and Rinaldo landed one because of his momentum then fine. But he landed three. That’s not cool. It may, strictly speaking, be legal but it’s not something you do. St. Louis told Briere as much.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:50 PM


      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:00 PM

        If you think so then you’ve probably never played, and if you have you must not have been very well liked out there or in the room.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

        I was hated but my enemies sent me christmas cards !

    • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:17 PM

      They had Rinaldo mic’d and he even asked the ref if he punched Crombeen while he was down and the ref said no it was clean. Wanna talk about punching someone while they’re down, look at Lecavalier. He clearly punched Talbot while he was on his back on the ice.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM

        The shots Vinnie threw were in retribution. Anyone not a Flyer fan can plainly see that. Go to, it’s a pretty impartial judge. You, are not.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 6, 2013 at 5:44 PM

        And neither are you my friend. You epitomize the “Flyer hater” so we have to take any opinions you have on the Flyers with a grain of salt. You despise the Flyers so how can you consider yourself an impartial judge?

    • mmeyer27 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM

      I’ve watched this many times. Rinaldo nailed him. He threw two punches while Crombeen was falling. One hit his shoulder pad – he probably wound’t have felt it if he was aware of anything. Not sure where the other landed (if at all), but Crombeen was still not on the ice yet. I admit when I saw it the first time, I though they were late punches, but upon further observation, I think it was clean. I have yet to find video for Lacalvelier, but when I do, I will be sure to comment.

  8. muttbolts - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Well said flyer haters.

  9. hockeywithdrawal - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    WOW….I thought I had seen classlessness before…continuing to punch the guy when he’s going down? Good fight, but Rinaldo showed what he is, and will get his. I expected to see Rinaldo give a “knock out” but that’s not what happened at all. He won the fight, then took cheap shots, by any enforcers standards. Puke.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:39 PM

      crombeen 6’2″ 210 lbs zak 5’11” 170

    • melonheadsdaddy - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM

      Classlessness….making up words are we? Watch the lecavlier vs talbot fight and try to make this same argument… Talbot was “clearly down” by your standards if crombeen was on the ground..

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:30 PM

        melon we don’t agree on much but good pick up by you ! classlessness wow !

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:54 PM

        It’ll seem like less of a good pickup when you realize ‘classlessness’ is a word.

      • melonheadsdaddy - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:35 PM

        This isn’t scrabble. You can’t just make up words….Look it up it’s not hard to do… But that doesn’t displace the fact that lecavlier did much worse and Rinaldo (while I do despise him) did what many other players do in the heat if the moment…Vincent was dirty…he dot it purposely and with malicious intent.

        **note: at least you can find all of my words in the dictionary. Pretty good for a stupid guy from South Philly, eh?

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:39 PM

        You’re right, it’s not hard to look words up, it took me about five seconds to find out that ‘classlessness’ isn’t made up.

        Both guys were dirty. Lecavalier was worse. That doesn’t make Rinaldo’s actions alright.

    • vismund11 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:21 PM

      Lecav responded in kind, no one wants to mention when he hit Talbot on the ground tho right? Always ‘classless’ Flyers comments. Typical.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:23 PM

      Lecavalier punched Talbot while he was laying on his back on the ice. The ref even said Rinaldo didn’t do anything wrong. Its one thing to hit someone laying on the ice, another when a player is going down. There have been hundreds of fights across the league where players continue to throw while tumbling to the ice. This is just a Pens fan attempting to further stereotypes about the Flyers.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:28 PM

        Plus there were a ton of opposing fans saying Luke Schenn was dirty for leaving his helmet on against Lecavalier… so was it dirty for Crombeen to leave his on while Rinaldo had his off?? Just one of the double standards by Flyers haters.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 6, 2013 at 8:08 AM

      Nevermind, guys…I THOUGHT I’d never seen such classlessness…and yes, it’s a word. But now, after reading these posts, I suppose I have.

      The only one of you that made sense in that is eiggles – yes, I understand the size difference, and I’ll even give it to you that Rinaldo has now one two fights this season, which in my opinion is two more than last season – but no way you keep drilling a man without a helmet when he’s falling to the ice. Even the classiest of thugs will tell you that.

      The only thing more disgusting than that was Milbury’s out and out mancrush on Rinaldo the rest of the night. They need to remove that man from the booth, take him to pasture, and shoot him. He shouldn’t be allowed to talk, much less get paid for it.

      • caucasian1975 - Feb 6, 2013 at 11:26 AM

        Let me remind you about classlessness, February 2011 brent johnson fights rick dipietro, dipietro gets hurt (of course) and pens bench laughs. Thats classlessness. Rinaldo went after crombeen because crombeen went after giroux in the last tb flyers game.

  10. orangeandblack67 - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    What a crock!!! Plenty of guys continue to throw’em on the way down. Crombeem was barely on a knee. You guys act like he was on his back.

  11. broadstbully33 - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Just like milbury and jones said “finish the fight” crombeen wasn’t on the ice when he got knocked out. Hate all u want but crombeen Started the whole thing and got knocked the F out

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM

      but the bolts captain punches talbot when he is flat on his back after sucker punching talbot twice to start the fight

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:58 PM

        First of all, if you cite Milbury and Jones you automatically lose. Just saying.

        What Vinny did was worse, you’re right. Does that somehow make what Rinaldo did any more acceptable? Nope.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:01 PM

        not me who posted that,, so you have proven your eyesight is bad and cannot weigh in on this debate !

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

        I know, just thought I’d throw that in since it was there, hence the space between the the lines. Nice try, bud.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:03 PM

        good try magoo !

  12. dawglb - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    This TB guy was asking for it….and asking for it.
    Oh, he got it alright.
    Down and out.

  13. sjsharks66 - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    I wouldnt even consider this a real KO either, that happened last year when asham ko’d beagle. He didn’t throw em when the other guy was down either 😉

  14. flyeredup - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Rinaldo would put Thornton 6 feet deep. Lucic and Chara wouldn’t fight Rinaldo. Check your vaginas at the door Bruins fans

    • nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:28 PM

      Thornton would destroy him. Rinaldo would go into wild hay-maker mode and thornton, who is ridiculously technical when he fights, would pick him apart. I like his italian anger though.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:36 PM

        thorton won’t be getting technical for awhile after getting his technical brains scrambled by big john scott

      • nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

        And Rinaldo would do better against Scott? Come on…you know Thornton is one of the best fighters in the league..don’t ignore the other hundred bouts he’s been in. Use your head.

    • nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:34 PM

      Also, this is the only thing I remember from Rinaldo. Skip ahead to 15:30 mark. Good times! Literally, I don’t know what he’s done besides get popped here…I think I remember Thornton chirping him one time and they got it on video..that was funny too, I guess.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:49 PM

        hey milan can you say john erskine booo ! fight somebody your own size you get knocked on your ass !

      • drewsylvania - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

        Via hockeyfights voting, Lucic is 38-7-5 (wins-losses-draws) in NHL fights in his career.

        So he clobbered Lucic. He can only dream of being half the player Lucic is.

      • drewzducks - Feb 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

        Why skip to the 15:30 mark when you can enjoy 17 minutes of a soon to be champion destroying an embarrassment of a team ?

    • drewsylvania - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

      Are you serious? Rinaldo is a zero. Either player fighting him is obviously stupid.

      If I had a dollar for every time I heard the tired, dumb argument of “If only Lucic/Chara fought real fighters”…

      Weak trolling. You can do better.

      • nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM


    • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 6, 2013 at 8:12 AM

      That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. This makes two fights I can even remember Rinaldo winning more than two fights.

    • bruins18 - Feb 10, 2013 at 2:08 AM

      Lucic and chara wouldnt fight him bcuz A they are both way more valuable to the bruins then rinaldo is to the flyers and B he would get tuned up by any of them chara lucic mcquaid thorton anyone of them would light him up damn flyers fans smh

  15. eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Remember when ben wilson would beat the crap out of stan johnathan ?

  16. orangeandblack67 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Lecavelier just showed what a cheap shot looks like. Far different from what Rino did. Worse thing about trolls is they don’t know $#!+ about the game.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:11 PM

      he should be suspended i have not seen that since the 70’s he’s a big p%#$$y that can’t fight

    • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 6, 2013 at 8:17 AM

      haha you sir are a grade A first class douche. ANYONE that uses the “you don’t know anything about the game” line normally is.

      Vinnie only kept punching Talbot as retribution, you moron. Why do you think he went after him to begin with (you moron)?

      A quote from (which unfortunately is the most meaningful publication covering this):

      “The teams exchanged some words afterwards. Later on, a frustrated Vinny Lecavalier tussled with Max Talbot at center ice and the two dropped them. A relatively uneventful scrap took a turn once Talbot hit the ice and Lecavalier snuck in a pair of short punches, likely retaliation for Rinaldo’s extra shots on Crombeen”

      Here’s the link – maybe you can have someone read some of this stuff to you later –

  17. fahkinsouthiekids - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    why would the bruins take note of a second tier team like the flyers? maybe when the flyers pass the established winners like the islanders or the maple leafs in the standings the bruins will take note

  18. dawglb - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    The Flyers carry their past reputation on their backs, unfairly. The Broad Street Bullies are no longer….. Although, Philadelphia hockey is still built on the foundation of work-ethic and toughness.
    Bottom line, Rinaldo gave that douche what he had been asking for…….as clean as a fight could be. The TB player dropped the gloves well before Rinaldo….and still paid the price.

  19. broadstbully33 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    So since lecavier hit talbot while he was flat on the ice is lecavier a scumbag dirty player?

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM

      I don’t think either guy is a scumbag but they certainly were dirty during this game.

  20. mclovinhockey - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    For anyone who is commenting about the punches on the ground… 3rd period, lecalvier did the same thing. I have seen it happen all the time, every team has a player to do it. And for the guy saying for Bruins fans to take note… That was an idiotic statement and on behalf of all flyers fan I apologize for it. Fact is bruins have prob the toughest team in the league… Also I would say the dirtiest by far but still the toughest.

  21. drewsylvania - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Lots of Flyer homers here, unless there are people who think that throwing haymakers when a guy is on one knee is clean.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:00 PM

      Happens all the time across the NHL. It’s not just limited to Philadelphia players. And being on one knee is different than being on your back on the ice. Ask Lecavalier about that.

      • drewsylvania - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM

        “All the time”? I sure don’t see that all the time, and I watch every B’s game and a fair number of NHLN and NBCSP games. Evidence?

      • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:46 PM

        -Don’t have videos but:
        Jan 13- Jim Slater vs Matt Hendricks: Slater goes down on both knees and is popped twice by Hendricks. Hendricks falls too and connects two more times.
        Jan 21- John Scott vs Colton Orr- After grappling for a bit and exchanging blows, Scott falls to his knees while Orr throws two more shots to the top of his head.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Feb 6, 2013 at 12:02 AM

        Mike Commodore v Ben Eager – last season, Commodore falls to his knees and Eager throws atleast 3 more blows.

        It happens all the time in the NHL.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM

      Evidence? Not much exists to back this homer up. Don’t hold your breath.

    • mclovinhockey - Feb 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM

      ive seen players (Dan Girardi) throw a helmet at a player in a fight and it was still clean. there are no rules for fighting in hockey except its one on one.

  22. dawglb - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Can’t we all get along?
    One word to help Flyers fans and Bolts fans to smile…..

  23. Jack Bauer 24 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM


    • phillyphannn83 - Feb 6, 2013 at 12:47 AM


      • Jack Bauer 24 - Feb 6, 2013 at 12:28 PM

        I bet it grinds on you hearing that over and over

      • phillyphannn83 - Feb 7, 2013 at 6:17 AM

        you wish, im plenty satisfied having my Phillies won the World Series in’08

      • Jack Bauer 24 - Feb 7, 2013 at 4:22 PM

        lol took you long enough to win something , 1983- 2008 , failure city usa

      • phillyphannn83 - Feb 9, 2013 at 8:00 PM

        hahahaha you want ttalk about taking long enough to win something?? ok, lets go there. How long did your sorry franchise take to finally win the cup?? 1967-1991 and you wemt bankrupt twice, were the sole cause of the ’94 lockout(the rest of the NHL thanks you for that), and bribed the league into having a Behind-closed-doors lottery following said lockout to ensure you were GIVEN Sydney Crosby and save the franchise from moving to a city with a fanbase that can actually support the team financially. Yeah thats a team to be REAL proud of. You Pitt fans amaze me. You only have 1 more cup than us yet you think your team is so superior when were the ones who constantly knock you out of the playoffs. We have 8 conference titles to your 4 and 16 division titles to your 6. We both came in the league the same year so why it is that we have so many more banners than you? Oh yeah, we never went bankrupt either and we were never threatened with relocation because our fans were so terrible they only followed our football team.

  24. redsoxchamp11 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    im looking forward to watching more of this matchup. Tampa hates philly in every sport.

    Vinny’s was worse, but it was a clearly retalition for the sucker shots on Crombeen. you coukd tell he was ready to stop the thought hit his head.

  25. dannythebisforbeast - Feb 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    lol he’s dirtiest player ever cuz he kept swinging on the way down. I’ve seen guys on the ice punching in face, back of the head. On top of a guy still swinging.
    I’ve seen guys on their knees make it back up and win the fight.

    It just didnt look pretty cuz the dude was KNOCKED OUT. If he wasn’t KNOCKED OUT its still a fight. All that said Rinaldo Is crazy but he’s definitely not 5 inches taller and 50 lbs heavier than his KO victim , that dude was much bigger than him, clueless.

  26. buffalo65 - Feb 6, 2013 at 5:26 AM

    Fighting is so ridiculous and it should be stopped. A pro sport with guys who can’t play stopping play to beat each other. No point, stupid.

  27. buffalo65 - Feb 6, 2013 at 6:17 AM

    That said, Tampa guy is a high paid unskilled goon that wanted to go, he lost, end of story.

  28. msmall77 - Feb 6, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    I think this is a very good breakdown. It is not mine. It was taken from the hockeyfights website in the comments under the story on this fight…

    Rinaldo may have crossed the line a little. But Lecav is just a scumbag. He’ll get his though. It always works that way.

  29. jaredphi - Feb 6, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Best – and most one-sided fight – I’ve seen in ages. Rinaldo totally cleaned Crombeen’s clock.

  30. hosewater2 - Feb 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Philly players are as dirty as their city.

  31. bruins18 - Feb 10, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    Its funny that this is all either teams fans have to talk about. Lol good fight wasnt dirty now shut up and watch you teams lose lol should be worried about winning the game then who won a damn fight smh lol and buffalo65 the sabres have one of the biggest goons on theyre team shut it

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