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Video: To fight or not to fight

Feb 4, 2013, 9:58 PM EDT

When the Boston Bruins faced the Buffalo Sabres on Jan. 31, John Scott did what he does best: fight.

Shawn Thornton obliged him in a bout 2:53 into the game, confronting the huge 30-year-old enforcer. Scott didn’t do much else that night aside from drawing another penalty (the next for elbowing), which made Mike Milbury wonder if Thornton, 35, should have even bothered dropping the gloves:

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Scott totaled just 4:28 minutes of ice time in that game, strengthening Milbury’s argument that he brings little to the table beyond fisticuffs. Where do you stand, though? Should Thornton have avoided the fight or did he do the right thing?

  1. hockeywithdrawal - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Buffalo got what they needed from him. Thornton is no better, and actually neither is Milbury. Actually anytime someone says “Milbury says……” I just brace myself for impact.

    • rdurk86 - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM

      You have to be 100% clueless if you think somehow Thornton isn’t better than Scott. Pretty much anything would be better than that plug, traffic cone, neanderthal on skates.

      As for what Milbury said, what part don’t you agree with? Scott isn’t a hockey player, he can’t do anything except bear hug a guy and punch the hell out of him. Just let him glide around with a dumb look on his face while you go put the puck in their net.

      • nstarsslr10s10 - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM

        Mike Milbury is a buffoon. Ask him about the lawsuit in Minnesota a number of years back, where he was drunk & slammed a persons head into a wall of a restroom at the Marriott hotel where the team was staying. Settled out of court. A Real “Lack of Class” act

  2. habsman - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    The Bruins are a bunch of dirty, cheap shot, sucker punching goons who got away with murder two years ago when Greg Campbell’s daddy Colie turned a blind eye to numerous goon tactics. To see one of them get smashed in the face does a heart good.

    And really, shouldn’t Lucic (who got off scott free on the Miller hit) have battled Scott? But he took the coward way out, much like he did when Larouque challenged him three times.

    Much of the league is seeing them for what they are now, sucker punching cowards.

    Also, their fan base are racists. ie: Joel Ward and Torry Smith to name a very few.

    • bigt12789 - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:26 PM

      I don’t think a Habs fan should be calling anyone else’s players “cowards”. Will Mr. Subban be doing his impersonation of a turtle again on Wednesday night?

      • habsman - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:31 PM

        Subban will drop them if he’s not jumped from behind. In his brief career he has had eight fights, more than most of your “tuff guy” Bruins.

      • bigt12789 - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM

        Habs- The Bruins had more fights last year than the Canadiens have the past two seasons combined. Say all you want about cheap shots or going after guys smaller then them, bug don’t try and tell me they don’t fight.

      • habhaters11 - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM

        Subban couldn’t even handle Marchand and he’s half Subbans size

      • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:00 PM


        PK’s fights: He’s real tough. real tough.

        Wheeler (who is tall but a giant vag.)
        Colin greening
        Mark Letestu
        Joffrey Lupul
        Zach Bogosian (which he wanted nothing to do with..ta ta ta turtle)
        Brian Sutherby (which sutherby followed code and didn’t punch when down- subban did)
        the other fight was a preason fight with Zach smith.

      • habsman - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:53 PM


        What point are you trying to make?

        PK is not a fighter, and nobody said he was. I’ve seen 95% of his games and not once have I seen him “turtle.” Perhaps you’re referring to him hitting the ice a couple years ago when Ferrence jumped him and sucker punched him from behind?

        Anyway, eight scraps, regardless of vs. who would indicate he’s ready to defend himself. especially as a 21yr old with two years experience. But fighting certainly isn’t his game.

      • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 4:18 PM

        @habsman- you seem to bring up when Lucic won’t fight guys. especially laraque – Lucic was like 20 or 21 too. also scored more goals in one season than Guy did in his career. Also, thanks for referring to me by my handle. pure class; wouldn’t expect anything different. He was hiding from Bogosian pretty badly, he hides from everyone on the B’s except marchand.
        1:10 definitely new Ference was coming enough to raise his elbow. no sucker punch he hid too quicky. Ference is ALOT smaller than him too. I guess if subban isn’t allowed to flying elbow people he didn’t see it coming.

      • habsman - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:12 PM


        I usually get a headache when trying to comprehend your Boston school system sentence structure, but I think I get the jist of your ranting.

        I never said Lucic doesn’t fight, I said he picks his spots. When he put the beat down on Komeserick (who isn’t a fighter) he ran around jumping on the glass basically acting like an idiot. The next time he played the Habs, he refused three times to go with Laraque. Now he’s hiding from Scott and letting a teamate take a beating he should have received for running Miller (with impunity).That’s just a fact.

        As for PK, I just pointed out that he’s had eight fights in his brief career. More than many of your tough Bruins have had in only two years. Kinda debunks your turtle theory huh? And as you stated he ducked down before Ference could “sucker punch” him, a typical tactic used by more than a few Bruins.

        As far as your handle goes, I have had my handle abused by numerous fans of your ilk without complaint, so grow up you baby.

    • Philip - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:54 PM

      It’s been proven time and again Lucic’s average opponent is smalled and/or less experienced at fisticuffs than he. Lucic was never, ever, ever going to fight Scott.

      • nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        Tell Carkner and Neil that.

      • Philip - Feb 5, 2013 at 3:31 PM

        Lucic is 5lbs heavier and 3 inches taller than Neil, but you’re right about Carkner (20lbs heavier than Lucic, same height).

        But has Lucic only ever fought two fights? No. Going into the 2013 season, his avg opponent weighs 217lbs and is 6’2″. Which would be smaller than Lucic.

      • nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 4:12 PM

        Ya, most players, in general, are smaller than Lucic. The whole size thing is a poor argument though. By that standard, Thornton is a nobody. We all know he is one of the better fighters in the league. When others fight him, nobody says, “ya but Thornton isn’t for real because he’s only 6’2″.” So either Lucic fights someone smaller than him (which means most players) or he fights someone just as big who can’t fight? And when he does fight the established ‘enforcers’ in the league, and wins, he still is criticized for not doing it enough….You’re literally creating explanations. On top of that, you’re assuming there are enough big men to go around that Lucic always has someone on his level to fight with. This whole debate is kind of misguided. Everyone knows how good he is. Not many other teams have a devastating physical player who fights and puts up 60 pts a season. If he doesn’t waste his time with a guy like Scott, and in turn risk hurting himself and his team, then good on him. He’s too valuable.

      • Philip - Feb 5, 2013 at 4:28 PM

        I’m not questioning talent or tenacity. My point was he doesn’t fight guys bigger than himself. You disagreed. I proved you wrong. Now you’ve rejiggered your argument to focus on another talking point.

      • nunan - Feb 5, 2013 at 4:46 PM

        What is your goal in attempting to make this point? He doesn’t fight guys that are bigger than he is so…..what? What are you saying? Because he doesn’t, he isn’t a good fighter or a legit big man? Is that your point because if so, you’re obviously wrong. I could say the same about Scott. He doesn’t fight guys that are bigger than he is…so…..ya…RECAP: you’ve said he doesn’t fight big enough players…when he does, they aren’t legit fighters…when they are legit fighters but 2 inches shorter than him, it basically doesn’t count…what other ideas can you come up with? Get to the point…

    • nopuntintended - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:02 AM

      The fan base is racist?

      Willie O’Ree. You’re the one going off about history, how about you educate yourself.

      And why doesn’t Lucic fight Scott? Well, why doesn’t Miller fight Lucic? Solid logic, habsman.

      • habsman - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM

        Yes, Willie O’ree played for the Bruins, and Bill Russell played for the Celtics, and Jim Rice played for the Sox……….etc. Got it…. But what’s your point?

        I did not say the Bruins were racist.

        I said the Boston fan base was racist. And of that, there is no dispute.

        Do you get it now?

      • bigt12789 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:42 AM

        I’m sorry I thought this post WAS about the Bruins? What the hell are you trying to prove by spending most of your time on here bashing Boston and calling its whole fan base racist? Why because a few jackasses with twitter accounts went wayyy too far after Ward scored the goal? F_[k those clowns they aren’t real fans and don’t deserve the right to root for any team. But that doesn’t change the fact that you are full of sh!t for saying the whole fanbase is racist. You’re the only one on this post who’s felt it necessary to bring up racism. Why not make an arguement with some valid HOCKEY points to back it up?

      • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM

        Habsman- Boston had, let me repeat; HAD a bad reputation -as most of North America deservedly did. I have a few posts/articles for you(see below). Stop being an idiot. didn’t you run your last coach out of town because he couldn’t speak french? not racist, but discriminatory nonetheless. have fun.

        “Four cities accounted for most of the increase in police-reported hate crimes: Ottawa, where the number of incidents increased by 83, Toronto (79), Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo (62), and Montreal (61).”

    • bruins18 - Feb 5, 2013 at 2:59 PM

      You guys keep saying lucic got off scot free… Lucic got off Scott free because no one on buffal had their goalies back and as for Thornton being a better hockey player anyone remember that back hand toe drag on the penalty shot last season? Yea he’s there to fight but he can atleast help out in the corners and put
      Points on the board

      • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 4:20 PM

      • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM

        and then there is this… the best part is the call for a line change.ahahaha

    • tdrusher225 - Feb 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM

      First of all, you are a troll. Second, the Miller/Lucic incident actually didn’t have anything to do with the Thornton/Scott fight. Scott and Thornton have a history going back a couple years and Scott has wanted to fight Thornton ever since then. This fight would’ve happened regardless of what team Scott was on, it just so happened that it got linked in with the Sabres/Bruins rivalry. Lucic had nothing to do with this fight, but I know you couldn’t help yourself.

  3. rich859 - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    Habsman, go back to playing WOW and jerking it to Carey Price.

    • habsman - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:32 PM

      Wow, what an intelligent post. Are you a graduate of the Boston public school system?

      • nunan - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:58 PM

        You of all people shouldnt be calling other people’s post unintelligent. I hope you know that before anyone reads your posts, there is the thought of “ok here is another biased and over-emotional post from this guy who can’t stand the Bruins because they whip up on the Habs all the time”. Think about that for a second. Before anyone reads anything you have to say (if they read it at all), they already know what your game is and pretty much throw your comment out the window. You’ve created that persona for yourself…nobody takes you seriously so anything you have to say is literally in one ear and out the other. But post on..knowing everyone is laughing at you.

      • habsman - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

        “…. this guy who can’t stand the Bruins because they whip up on the Habs all the time….

        You really are a special kind of moron aren’t you.

        How far back in history are we allowed to go? Please check you facts, and the Bruin record vs. the Habs, especially in the playoffs. When you do, you will feel very silly.

      • nunan - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:26 PM

        You really want to debate me on a team that has a storied history that ended in the early 90s. Go ahead. I’ll let you make a fool of yourself. Nobody cares for anything except the present. See, we have you pegged so clearly. You immediately jump to the ‘good ol days’ in order to make an argument. Who is disputing the Habs’ history? Not me. Truth is, ever since the playoff series in 2008 (where the bruins as the 8 seed took the Habs to 7 but lost), the bruins have been on the upswing and the Habs have gone to cellar dwelling. It’s been 5 years since the Habs really beat the Bs in the playoffs. Utter dominance in Boston all while, yes, beating the crap out of the Habs physically, as well. Not opinion, just facts. I think the habs are better this year but lets not talk hockey. You obviously have no interest in just live for these moments where you can spew all this BS about Boston. I like it. It makes beating the Habs more enjoyable.

      • rich859 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM

        So you don’t deny it?

  4. bruinpred - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    The movie “The Gladiators” focuses on Chris Nilan and fighting. Nilan had seasons in which he scored 16, 21, and 19 goals. Bob Probert, one of the greatest fighters ever, had 163 career goals. Clark Gillies had 319 career goals with six 30+ goal seasons and he could beat the crap out of anyone (ask Terry O’Reilly). Speaking of O’Reilly, he had a 90 point season. Heck, even Stan Jonathan had a 20+ goal season.
    In the old days, many if not most of the fighters were hockey players like Thornton who took regular shifts. Some were even great hockey players. Thornton should have skated away. There should be no place for Scott in the game.
    I used to be a big fan of the Sabres but soured after the Ray Emery situation when their whining began and has never stopped.

    • nunan - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM

      Well said. We all knew Thornton was going to try and get that out of the way though. It’s just his way. I also think he would do better if they ever fought again. He has fought some huge guys and done well. That just went wrong quickly.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:50 AM

      I’m confused about your post. You mention a lot of history, then snap back to Thornton, assuming we’ll all follow that Thornton is in the class of hockey player you are mentioning…but Thornton had 13 points in 82 games last season, and is used pretty much full time as Boston’s thug (as if they needed one when half the roster is comprised of them).

      Thornton is no better than Scott, and Buffalo got the win mostly because they showed the Boston kids that they weren’t going to be bullying anyone. You are now crying because of it – any attempt to justify your one-sided complaints falls on deaf ears (with the exception of other Bruins fans).

      You say that there’s no place in hockey for Scott, spend a paragraph complaining, but say its SABRES fans that are whiners? hahaha

      • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:32 AM

        Thornton is way better than Scott that is why he as been on one team for 90% of his games. Scott has been on 4 teams in 160 games. C’mon. act like you know the game. Thornton is a 4th line player who averaged 7.5 goals over the past two season. Scott has ONE career goal. Buffalo did not get the win because of Scott. The fight had pretty much NOTHING to do with it. It was early and the Bruins had a 3-1 lead AFTER the fight. Buffalo won because the Bruins D played awful and Vanek went crazy. It wasn’t like Scott rallied the team by fighting thornton. If anything it was the opposite. Scott is supposed to win that fight. He is almost 7 feet tall and 300lbs. If Chara fought Kaleta(I know he didn’t play) or Ott would anyone be surprised if he won? You are supposed to be a Pens fan, but you spend a lot of time on Bruins articles. Your comment shows why you have no understanding of the game. Anyone who thinks Thornton is the same as Scott just does’t watch enough or hockey, or if they do- they clearly don’t understand it.

        This has absolutely nothing to do with Lucic. Nothing. Lucic is a 25-30 goal scorer. Scott is a useless. The Lucic/Miller thing was settled last year. It’s funny how all the “Hockey fans” think they know more than the players. The PLAYERS IN THE ACTUAL LEAGUE voted him toughest player. Again. THE PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE.

      • bigt12789 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        Alright Hockeywithdrawal I know this is usually your line but now I am confused. Please explain to me how getting 13 points out of a 4th line “thug” is a bad thing? If anything that helps drive home how different he is from Scott. You know the guy who has ONE career goal?

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:39 AM

        I don’t think it’s ‘bad’, at all – but it’s still a far cry from the depiction given of Thornton by the guy that originally posted the comment. The point is that whether your points per game is .03 (Scott) or .16 (Thornton), both are really low and BOTH players are there for reasons other than scoring. The original post was that somehow Thornton is the classiest guy in a sweater and Scott is a bum…but no, I’d disagree…both players are of the same thread.

        I’d also look at it this way (and let’s not kid ourselves and joke that this wasn’t what the fight was about)…Scott could have challenged Lucic. Lucic has the height and weight advantage over Thornton. He did not (that I know of) – he gave the opportunity to Thornton. Why? Because that’s why he’s there. Why did Scott fight and not Ryan Miller? Because that’s what he’s there for.

        Point is, Thornton is no better than Scott…and if this was a decent fight, or if Thornton would have won, no one would be saying any of this. It’s only because Scott WON the fight, which make it whining.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:54 AM

        Pepper – Not going to get into a “you don’t know hockey” argument, clearly we both watch a lot of it, and the statement is just plain silly. You can read the other comment I just posted as to why the two players are the same in my eyes, and why this all comes across as whiney. If Thornton wins, none of us have to suffer through any of these conversations…everything is right in Boston. Since he DIDN’T, there’s got to be something done about bums like Scott….is that basically what we’re all saying? I just don’t see that point.

        A lot of your points just don’t make sense. The day of that game, I listened to so many Bruins fans chirp up about how there won’t be any retaliation for Lucic running Miller, because no one would dare eff with the Bruins, and if anyone tried Lucic would beat them down. THE TOUGHEST GUY IN THE LEAGUE…well, that guy didn’t seem so tough. Scott gave him a painless (albeit gutless) way out, and he took it, by ransoming his buddy. That’s how I see it, and most of the people that aren’t Boston fans see it that way too it seems.

        I read a lot of the articles on here, not just the Boston ones. It’s because I watch, and follow, a lot of different teams. Clearly, you know nothing about that.

      • bigt12789 - Feb 5, 2013 at 11:56 AM

        All jokes aside, no I don’t think this fight had everything to do with Lucic. Last I checked the Sabres had games last year to get their retaliation against Lucic. You very clearly stated that Scott threw down because that’s what he’s “there to do,” but you’ve also spent the past week saying Scott and Thornton are the same. So please explain to me why you’re so up in arms that two enforcers fought if that’s what they are there for? And please stop with the B.S. that this was Lucic’s fight, it’s insulting to my man Claude Julian’s I.Q. to think he’s gonna put his top line forward out against the 4th line just so the Sabres can get their sentimental victory that they were too soft to get last year.

      • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM

        @hockeywithdrawl- a couple things;
        1) I don’t think any boston fans said there wouldn’t be action in this game. It didn’t have anything to do with Miller. That would be like saying Marchand Slew footed niskanen because Cooke hit savard. It was two tough guys battling. that’s all. Buffalo cannot match up with Bostons toughness; they just can’t. they have Scott who is the baddest dude out there, but man for man is no match. Foligno wanted no part of Mcquaid a few times and Ott was invisible.
        2)you are wrong. this had nothing to do with the Miller incident. The Sabres as many teams are are trying to be tougher to play against. Milbury is right having scott out there is like having a PP for the other team. Like it or not Shawn Thornton is a heck of a hockey player. No doubt he is more of a fighter, but if fighting were banned he could hang on as a 4th liner. Scott would be out of the league. there is a reason he has played over 450 NHL games in this era. He has played in almost 70 playoff games. You don’t give this guy enough credit; plain and simple.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM

        But Bigt you are answering your own comment right in your own post. Your entire judgment of the team shifted from last year to this one. You say ” just so the Sabres can get their sentimental victory that they were too soft to get last year.”

        Too soft….LAST YEAR. No goalie was run this year, case closed, point proven, and job done.

        To say that there’s no place for Scott when ONE MAN had the Bruins on their best behavior the entire game (including after the timeout at the end of the game), is nothing more than cheering on the home team.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:26 PM

        Pepper, I think we’re all fooling ourselves. The Sabres were criticized for the past what, year, because of not laying the law down? This year they did, and won. To say it’s not related to Lucic (and I disagree), it’s just related to an incident caused by Lucic, is splitting hairs, to me.

      • bigt12789 - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM

        But I’ve never once said that there is no place in this league for guys like Scott. In fact I said the opposite that I’m glad teams are picking up guys like Scott. That way they can enjoy their sentimental victories while the teams that are running 4 solid lines are continuing to win Cups. And last time I checked Thornton has two more of those than Scott does.

  5. moast - Feb 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Habsman is so delusional and so repetitious with his statements. Wah Boston people are stupid, Boston people no good and dumb….yada yada. I have no idea why you even come on here to spew your pathetic rhetoric about how much you despise the Bruins and the city of Boston…’s really pathetic. You can try and comback and talk smack to me but all I am is a username to you so it will make to impact on me or my life. The Bruins are a great team, bottom line. Montreal, not so much. Great no, better yes. Montreal has a storied franchise with some of the most pationate fans….you not being one of them. Your a pathetic little boy hiding behind your computer and past of Montreals glorry days. Once you figure out that the Habs are over and wont win a cup again, maybe decades from now but you will be still in your moms basement whacking off to Price. The Bruins are still the same as they always have been. The Big Bad Bruins. Your just butt hurt because the Bruins are on top and the Habs as always are looking up. Leave people alone on here and Im sure everyone on here will leave you alone as its not nice picking on people with special needs.

    • habsman - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:17 PM

      What is it with you, and other Bruin fans, with their fixation with “whacking off?”

      Don’t you people have girl friends? Do you guys like girls?

      Does the truth hurt? Does winning ONE cup in the last 40 years give you the right to talk crap? Pathetic. Colie and Greg cannot help you this year.

      • habswoman - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:28 PM

        It was 39 years and will soon be 20 years for you. It’s really a shame that the best Canadien coach coaches the Bruins eh? That must really burn at you Habs fans.

      • cba77 - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM

        Hey Habsman, shouldn’t you be booing our National Anthem or something like that….

      • habsman - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:46 PM

        I’ve mentioned it here before.

        The Canadian anthem was booed in New York at Yankee Stadium in the seventies at a Blue Jay game.

        What’s good for the goose……..

      • micklethepickle - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:15 AM

        Habsman, if you’ve ever seen Boston women, you’d understand why the men up here are stuck “taking care of themselves”. Ugliest city I’ve ever lived in… glad I met my wife and got married before moving here, because it must be hard to find a gal that doesn’t need the brown-bag treatment. .

        Hm… that could also explain the rampant alcoholism here, too… might be on to something…

  6. moast - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    As for the topic of conversation, should Thornton have fought? Probably not but he did as he is a warrior and stand up for his team no matter what or who. Guys like Scott should be banned. Yes, he is a tough SOB no doubt, but he is useless otherwise. Absolutley useless and has no reason to be on the ice but to give the Sabres and litlle ole’ ruff a pair of testes which they haven’t had forever. Now that they do have some balls, well, thats just it, they have some balls. They still suck, bottom line is the Scott will bring intimidation and Vanek will bring a fierce offensive threat but the rest of them are whiny, scared little kids that won’t make it anywhere in the playoffs. Thornton is a true warrior and is the true meaning of enforcer which has been a Bruin way since day one.

    • bigt12789 - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM

      Having a guy who is in the lineup only to fight will hurt teams in the long run. The past few teams to win the Cup have done it by having 4 solid lines. I don’t see Scott coming up with a clutch goal in the playoffs anytime soon. Or any goals for that matter…

  7. habswoman - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Bruins…cheap…dirty…Chara…murder…racist…Campbell…sucker punch…Lucic…goon.

    Hey guys just follow that outline I have permanently saved on my clipboard to write a great comment on every Bruins article every time!!!

    Seriously though stupid fight but what balls on Thornton fighting a guy that much taller than him. Habarnak is wrong though. If anyone should have fought Scott it should have been Chara but the trade-off isn’t worth it. Thornton should give Stock a call and figure out some tips on beating the bag out of someone way taller than you.

    • nunan - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM

      Truth is, beyond it not being a fair trade off with Chara and Scott, Chara isn’t that great of a fighter. He’s very unsteady on his skates when fighting. Don’t get me wrong, he can fight but when it comes to someone who is almost as tall and who ONLY fights, I don’t like that match up for him.

      • habswoman - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:15 PM

        I agree. He usually slays people but it’s just like that fight, way taller, way longer reach. One on one with Scott would be interesting and I don’t have confidence that Chara would come out on top.

  8. nunan - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    I’m a fan of the people who want less fighting in the game but then applaud Scott. If anything, he is the type of player that should be removed. Anyone can go and pick up a huge guy who can’t skate. The Bruins have huge guys that can actually skate and their ‘enforcer’ is only 6’2” and plays on the most effective 4th line in hockey.

    • dolanster - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:38 AM

      +1 for truth. Thornton fights, but he also skates. He’s already had a huge goal this season (one more than a guy like Kessel), and he’s got speed. His physical game isn’t limited to when his gloves are off, unlike Scott — who’s just another Boogaard. Thorton’s in the traditionalist tough guy role like Nilan or O’Reilly or Probbie. Scott is just a Wensink. He belongs in the East Coast league.

      And anyone who’s fought or boxed will tell you any fight can go wrong fast. All it takes is one shot for a knock out or concussion. Thornton knows how to fight. He’ll drop with Scott again someday and he’ll do better, I guarantee.

  9. dropthepuckeh - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Time to ignore Habsman and his repetitive angry trolling. If there is a post with any tangential relevance to Boston he will appear with his “Collie” and stock response. Life is short brother, let it go. Lucic answered the Sabres challenge to fight and did so admirably. Asking him to repeatedly fight a goon who averages 3-4 min of ice time a night is ridiculous, but I suppose, ridiculous is where Habsman lives.

    As for Thornton fighting; no probably he should not have but I guarantee he wanted to be the guy who fought Scott rather than any other teammate. Say what you will about fighting etc but Thornton is a guy who adheres to the code and is respected by all of the tough guys past and present. I hope he returns to health quickly.

  10. betrayedbylife - Feb 4, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    habsman, i know you’re a troll but i want to feed you because i’m bored.

    had scott challenged lucic, lucic would have gladly obliged. but scott didn’t challenge lucic, he challenged thornton because the two have a bit of a history. lucic has nothing to prove, the sabres do. you also have to remember, lucic is a man capable of scoring. what business does he have playing into the hands of his opponents? it serves no purpose and does nothing for the bruins.

    as for the argument that thornton is no better than scott – they both know their roles.
    the dude lost a fight, who cares? he got injured…so what? he knew the risks. thornton himself has said “you lose sometimes.” there’s nothing to be ashamed of and everyone knows it, even the trolls who frequent this site while reddit refreshes know it.

    • buddysguys - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM

      thornton challanged Scott….clear as day watch the tape.

  11. buddysguys - Feb 5, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    john scott does not add much to the team but anyone who watches the entire game will see his pretty good two way player that reach he has is great when knocking pucks off sticks, he must have done it 2 or 3 times in that Boston game alone. I don’t need him on my team but he is not just fighting.

  12. nosefacekillah - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Should Thorton fight Scott? Of course, that is why he is there. He is a great hockey player for a fighter but he is still a fighter. His job, regardless how painful, is to throw with the other teams fighter to protect the skill players. Those that argue Lucic should fight Scott are simply allowing their emotional desire to Lucic pounded into a puddle get the best of their logic. Lucic is a top line power forward and needs to stay on the ice for his team.

    John Scott added much to the Boston-Buffalo game. He beat the snot out of Bostons tough guy. He set the tone that the Sabres would no longer be intimidated. His limited actions on the ice and his hulking presence on the bench created an atmosphere that pushed the Bruins to play a Sabres style game. The Bruins backed away from the physical game and spent the night trading odd man rushes and a fast pace cycle in the offensive zone. This style of play allowed the Sabres to show case their speed and skill, especially Vanek.

    Will Scott bring this benefit nightly? As we have seen from the Sabres since, no. And his returns will continue to diminish as teams no longer feel the need to engage him.

    • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      I disagree. They can’t play well every night. they had an off night. they went up 3-1 after the fight. The fight didn’t change the tone of the game. poor D did. They played uncharacteristically bad D. like really bad. nothing to do with Scott and his 5 minutes of ice time. just a bad game, and miller and and vanek played very well. You can’t really set a tone with one guy. Great the Bruins run vanek and scott jumps Mcquaid. who is left once he gets thrown out? that is why the Bruins are effective or tough. If you get thornton out of the lineup there are 9 other guys that you probably don’t want to mess with; not weber, foligno, ennis, stafford, ott, etc…

  13. flyeredup - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Bottom line, Lucic didn’t want to get whooped so he let Thornton get pounded. Thumbs up for Thornton answering the bell. I have a 50cent off coupon for Vagisil to give to the coward Lucic

    • pepper2011 - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM

      hahah, just happen to have a vagisil coupon? sure bud.

      • drewzducks - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:30 AM

        What would you expect from Hartnell’s boyfriend ?

  14. dolanster - Feb 5, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    As an old school guy I’m fine with fighting, but I don’t like pure thugs. If they want to eliminate goons in this league they should make a rule that if you get in a fight and have less than 10 minutes of ice time then you’re fined and suspended. If you fight in a staged drop-of-the-puck fight then you should be fined and suspended. And the coach is fined. Fighters should be regular players, not NFL-sized fighting specialists. Those guys need to play elsewhere. There would be a lot of normal-sized tough guys like Thornton or Dustin Brown or Tootoo that would get a chance if these man-mountain pylons like Scott who are just there for one reason get left behind.

  15. arbruins - Feb 5, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Habsman…..forget it. Regardless of what anyone says, you repeat the same crap over and over. You seem to have some knowledge of hockey but it’s all wasted when all you do is copy and paste the same BS over and over again.

    I do agree on one thing, someone should have pounded the piss out of any other Saber on the ice. It would not have been Scott because he was riding the pine most of the night but, someone should have been taken to task.

    I beg you…drop the Campbell, sucker punching, cheap shot artist racist crap rhetoric. No one will ever take what you say seriously and will brush you off as just another pompous, know nothing Canadiens fan!

    I am a bruins fan, that does not mean I received my education from Boston schools or any other town in Massachusetts.

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