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Sabres coach: We need a win, not revenge on Lucic

Jan 31, 2013, 2:23 PM EDT

Ryan Miller, Johnny Boychuk, Zdeno Chara AP

With new additions John Scott and Steve Ott, the Buffalo Sabres are a tougher team than the one that was embarrassed early last season when Boston’s Milan Lucic ran over Ryan Miller without suffering any consequences.

But the Sabres have also lost four straight heading into tonight’s game against the Bruins at TD Garden.

As such, head coach Lindy Ruff is more concerned with his team getting a victory than proving it’s not afraid of the big, bad B’s.

“You try to win the puck battles and the territorial battles,” Ruff said today, per the Buffalo News. “We have to win a game. Not coming out of here with points is not being successful. In a short season we need points. We’ve answered the physical challenge. We’ve been there for each other from day one in this. We play a gritty style, a hitting style. We have to win games.”

Ruff also noted that the Sabres have already played the Bruins since the Lucic incident, and that Paul Gaustad dropped the gloves with the menacing Boston winger.

Still, don’t be surprised if there’s a scrap or two tonight. When Scott signed with the Sabres this summer, he promised nobody would get away with running Miller again.

Plus, if Scott can convince Lucic to go — and what’s Lucic going to say? No? — that would be a nice trade-off for the Sabres.

  1. sjsharks66 - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    What is lucic going to say? No? Yeah of course he is going to say no! Why would he take someone like scott off for 5 minutes? If scott challenged lucic, thornton will come in and fight.

    If the bruins are ahead on the board by a lot, then it is possible lucic will agree. However i feel chara would come in and handle it if that was the case.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:39 PM

      Then perhaps Scott should just run Rask. If Thornton OR Chara come in to finish ‘tough guy’ Lucic’s business, then Buffalo can call that a win. And hopefully Scott will break Chara’s nose.

      But honestly, I think Scott running Rask is the way to go…and from the sound of things, you’d agree, I’m sure.

      • hockeyflow33 - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:15 PM

        Maybe I follow a different game than you but a W is the only way to win a game that I know.

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM

        Do we believe Ruff or is he just blowing smoke? He said the right thing, and settling a score will be the right thing to do.

      • drewsylvania - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:30 PM

        *shrug* If someone runs Rask, that player will end up in the hospital.

      • capesouth - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:46 PM

        So lets run each others goalies for the next few years because that’s the only way to deal with it. This was already settled. I mean I hope Buffalo is distracted by it because they will lose the game, but this was over a long time ago so there is no ‘business’ to be finished. That’s only in your eyes bc you’re so emotionally upset over this. Lucic shouldn’t fight Scott. It’s of benefit to the Bs that Scott stay on the ice bc he sucks. And unlike the Sabres, if anyone runs rask, there will be a reaction right away. The Bruins love that stuff.

      • nhloon - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:55 PM

        Scott breaking Chara’s nose ? What game do you watch ?

    • buddysguys - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:56 PM

      it might be a smart move by Lucic but that would be the B*tch way out.

    • scalfor3 - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:52 PM

      That would be the smart move by Lucic. However, Luc isn’t exactly the brightest bulb in the bunch. If someone challenges him, odds are he’s throwing down

      • habssuck - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:57 PM

        Unless CJ tells Lucic not to fight and Scott just chases him around all night ala Laraque. If thats the case the Sabers will lose. Lucic can also play hockey, Scott can’t.

      • capesouth - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:53 PM

        You obviously dont know Lucic. He only fights when the time is right because he actually has an offensive role on the team. It’s why he wouldnt fight Laraque and why he turned down Komisarek 47 times during the last few years. I love these people who are still up in arms. Is it bc the moment when there was supposed to be payback, Lucic pummeled Gaustad? So, now you want another crack at him? This is perfect for the Bs. Scott is a bum so the longer he is out there, the better.

    • drewsylvania - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:34 PM

      Lucic is known to take dumb fighting penalties from time to time. He shouldn’t go with anyone that provides no other value to his team.

      Unless that guy runs his goalie, in which case I don’t mind Lucic picking up a suspension for payback.

  2. travishenryskid - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    They aren’t as tough as Boston, and they aren’t as skilled as Boston. Regier has made a mess of this team. At least with his old formula, the Sabres had an identity. They were going to be more skilled and generally the Sabres were close. They had a wining record against the Bruins over the past few years. After Lucid killed Miller and everyone on Buffalo pooped themselves, Regier decided he wanted to get tougher at the expense of skill. So now, they’re not really tough, and they’re not really skilled, so what are they? They are just a bad team.

    • buddysguys - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:58 PM

      tougher at the expense of skill? Did they cut someone with skill to get tougher??? If your answer is derek roy…i feel sorry for you.

      • thedavesiknowiknow - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        I was wondering the same thing. If that rant was in reference to the “skilled” team of last year- then essentially the only change was Hodgson/Ott in/Roy out. Maybe he really, really misses Corey Tropp.

      • travishenryskid - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:12 PM

        Whether you like it or not, Derek Roy is far more skilled than Steve Ott. Cody Hodgson hasn’t even proven himself a full time top 6 player, so yeah, there is a big difference. Try and take your emotions out of it, you’ll see it.

      • thedavesiknowiknow - Jan 31, 2013 at 10:25 PM

        There’s no debate there between Ott/Roy. That wasn’t really what the trade was about anyway. That was addition by subtraction. I can agree on Roy being a skilled player (his numbers have always been in the 60-80 pt range), however I’d take Hodgson (and any of the uncertainty that comes with this stage of his career) 100x out of 100 over Roy. Missing Derek Roy is like eating an egg salad sandwich that’s been sitting in the sun for hours in the hopes of getting food poisoning. We got taken on that deal, at least on paper- but getting a guy with character (as opposed to Roy, who totally lacked character on and off the ice) was an upgrade.

  3. elemeno89 - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    normally i would agree with ruff. but i wouldnt mind seeing scott break a few faces. namely lucic’s.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      Couldn’t make him any uglier.

      • bigblackzaranek - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        could make him look like marchand…

  4. rich859 - Jan 31, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    The Sabers, a hitting team, lol. Nickelback has better hits than the Sabers.

    • zetaone - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:37 PM

      And better spellers.

      • rich859 - Jan 31, 2013 at 8:11 PM

        Sorry, Sabres*. I had a Dunder-Mifflin moment.

  5. pepper2011 - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Rask wouldn’t miss with the two handed slash!

    once Scott gets a misconduct who will be there to protect miller? Thornton/scott – Lucic/ott – or some combo

    who is the answer for Mcquaid, Chara, ference, Campbell, Horton, seidenberg (see colby armstrong), & Boychuck. Plus there are 11 other guys who would protect Rask, not one half-hearted attempt.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:18 PM

      You obviously still believe in super-heros and where Bruin’s underoos still, eh?

      • pepper2011 - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:26 PM

        Good one. it’s wear. it is also heroes. A four (get it?) effort. eh?

      • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:31 PM

        haha yep…thank you for pointing that owt. :)

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 31, 2013 at 8:24 PM

      Scott knocks Thornton right out of the game hahahahahahahahahahahaha

      • scalfor3 - Feb 1, 2013 at 12:43 AM

        6’8″, 270 vs 6’2″, 215. Yes, it was a beatdown, but it would’ve been embarrassing for Scott if Thornton had been able to hang with him.

  6. misterchainbluelightning - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Ott would get his face beat in if he tries to drop them with Lucic. Scott is the only guy with a shot at “payback”

  7. ballistictrajectory - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Wow… Fluffalo fans still festering on something from a year and a half ago…

    • bagjr387 - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:53 PM

      not all of us….some of the more intelligent ones wont dwell on the past and remember Gaustad fighting Lucic last season. I would be pretty disappointed if we spent half the game chasing boston around for “revenge”, unless something dirty happened during the game. Buffalo, win or lose, I think will show up tonight.

      Also to the people tend to think that we traded Roy(skill) for Ott(toughness) because we wanted to not be push overs, aren’t 100% right. Roy was on his way out, and I am glad Darcy got a more talented version of Gaustad.

      I am happy about the moves darcy made…we lost Gaustad, Kassian and Roy, and gained Ott, Pardy(if it matters), Hodgson, and a 1st round pick that turned into Zemgus Girgensons, who has a bright future.

      the team needs to play how they are built, around Miller. If the team is any good this season, they will win a lot of 2-1 or 3-2 games…

      • drewsylvania - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:45 PM

        I think some of those fans still want retribution because Lucic clobbered Gaustad in that “retaliation” fight.

  8. pepper2011 - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    this is how you defend your goalie

  9. rich859 - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Wait, something’s wrong… Where’s Habsman? I don’t think he would want to miss an opportunity to troll something like this. Does anyone have his number or address to make sure he’s ok or at least make sure he’s not stuck in his Carey Price blowup doll (or vice versa).

    • drewsylvania - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:47 PM

      I think he got banned. I hope so.

      • rich859 - Jan 31, 2013 at 8:16 PM

        It’s a Festivus miracle!!!!

  10. pepper2011 - Jan 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    just for fun.

  11. buffalomafia - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Both Ott & Scott aren’t so tough? They both got there asses kicked already!

    Plus Goalie Ryan Miller is on his knees more than a $2.00 hooker! Gets beat up high all the time!

  12. buffalomafia - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Even the bad teams fire there coaches & GM when they are losing!

    Quit worrying about being tough! Worry about the Sabres scoring!

    Kaleta shouldn’t play as for Leopold!

    Again!!!!! Quit worrying about being touch when your team can’t score & you still have the same coach & GM ruining this team!

  13. buffalomafia - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Whoops typo tough

  14. sjsharks66 - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:18 PM


    Running raask would be the worst thing buffalo could do. They already lost one player who is good at fighting. Ott is nowhere near a good fighter. The only answer is scott.

    Take a look at the bruins team. They will drop the gloves before scott even comes close to hitting raask. Personally, id like to see lucic run miller again. Then we can have more articles about how miller is concusssed, wait not concussed, maybe a little concussed no no hes fully concused.

  15. hockeyflow33 - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Why are people considering Ott as a tough guy?

  16. 8man - Jan 31, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Why is this still even a story? So last year. Actually so last, last year. Moving on…

    Go Bs!

  17. capesouth - Jan 31, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Yes! That is exactly what Lucic is going to say…”No”. Why would he fight Scott when it is obvious that would be a bad trade off for the Bs? Lucic adds way more value than Scott. Scott being out there in the first place is an advantage for the Bs. It is the Laraque debate all over again. Just because Lucic can fight doesn’t mean he should. People have trouble understanding that. Instead, they call Lucic a wimp, like that makes any sense. The Miller thing is over. Maybe it adds fuel to the fire but the whole issue of ‘payback’ or whatever ended last year. Ruff knows it, everyone else should too.

  18. betrayedbylife - Jan 31, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    glad to see there are at least some sensible, intelligent hockey fans still left on this site. i hope buffalo follows the advice of the couple of neanderthals on here who are encouraging fighting and running down goalies instead of scoring goals and winning the game because then boston skates into the dressing room with a couple more points. if this were the playground i would tell you you can’t let your friend get beat up then come around a year later and say you’re ready for revenge. handle it then and there or don’t.

  19. sjsharks66 - Jan 31, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    I told you guys. Thornton vs Scott

  20. arbruins - Jan 31, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    I think Fluffalo needs more goons because the rest of their game simply sucks.

  21. vstar1us - Jan 31, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    Nice win over the bruins, Miller played well and that is great!

  22. vstar1us - Jan 31, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    Sweet win for Buf, great job Miller

  23. riptide33 - Jan 31, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    They certainly got that win, and kicked the B’s ass while doing it. The jury is back out on this Bruins team. I thought they were the real deal but to get your butt handed to you at home like that was ugly! Let’s see how tough this team is and can they rebound. Congrats to the Sabres.

    • scalfor3 - Feb 1, 2013 at 12:50 AM

      It was a back-and-forth game that was tied until midway through the 3rd period. Final score was misleading; 2 of Buffalo’s goals were in the last two minutes. Buffalo played well and certainly earned the win, but saying the B’s “got their butt handed to them” is a bit much. Let’s be honest, they were due to have one of these close games break the other way.

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