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Video: Brad Stuart lands big hit on Gabriel Landeskog

Jan 26, 2013, 7:12 PM EDT

In just the fourth game of his second stint with the San Jose Sharks, Brad Stuart made a big impact – literally and figuratively – with this huge check on 20-year-old Colorado Avalanche captain Gabriel Landeskog:

As you can see, the 33-year-old defenseman was forced to drop the gloves immediately after that hit. Avs blueliner Ryan O’Byrne was charged with an instigator penalty, which opened to door for Patrick Marleau‘s first power-play goal. O’Byrne, 28, was also tossed from the game.

It’s not all bad news for the Avalanche, though. Landeskog returned to action during the second period of a game that’s still in progress.

Of course, plenty of players have come back from memorable collisions only to miss future games after further assessment, so PHT will keep an eye on the status of the 2012 Calder Trophy winner.

In the mean time, the question is: should Stuart be fined or suspended for that check?

From the “no” category, there’s this video on legal hits to the head:

That being said, the Denver Post’s Adrian Dater believes a suspension should be in order. Dater argues that Stuart “left his feet some,” making it suspension material. He also points to this screen cap to argue it’s a hit to the head:

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Update: Stuart defended his hit, via CSNBayArea.com’s Kevin Kurz:

“You take those hits out of the game, you change the game,” Stuart said.

Meanwhile, Avalanche coach Joe Sacco described the hit to Sportsnet’s Chris Johnston as “a direct blow to the head.”

Where do you stand?

  1. ethanmacleod1685 - Jan 26, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Good hit!

    • sabatimus - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:44 PM

      Bad hit.

    • drewsylvania - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:45 PM

      If you like cheap hits, it’s a good hit.

      Hit him high and directly in the face.

      • drewsylvania - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:52 PM

        Downthumbing won’t make us wrong.

      • scottybcboy - Jan 26, 2013 at 8:16 PM

        Stuart made full body contact with incidental head contact, did not leave his feet, absolutely clean!

      • capesouth - Jan 26, 2013 at 8:49 PM

        didn’t happen. We like clean hits, to the body, like this one.

      • esracerx46 - Jan 27, 2013 at 1:59 PM

        Good hit. I probably wouldnt have been as definite until I saw the replay like the commentators were. But, they were right. As we’ve seen and heard before, if the hit makes you leave your feet its clean. If you leave your feet to hit, dirty. If you pause the video at the 1:09 mark you will see Stuart’s left shoulder into Landeskog. Stuart’s feet are on the ground. Immediately after that, his feet are off. Landeskog’s head was down the whole time as Stuart stood up. Any contact that was made to the head was incidental. Stick was down, elbow tucked into his chest. You will not be hearing anything from the league regarding this hit. @ Drewsylvania, I have defended my stance, AND given you proof of a clean hit. You may thumbs down me now as it wont change your mind anyway.

    • mp1131211 - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:42 PM

      ….. to the head with his left elbow

      • x2006mbh - Jan 26, 2013 at 10:38 PM

        his elbow is tucked to his body any head contact was incidental from the shoulder

    • misterchainbluelightning - Jan 26, 2013 at 8:45 PM

      The announcers are idiots, of course you attack any player who levels your star player clean or not.
      I think he made too much contact with the head,and he’s going to hear from the league. But this garbage about “why does this have to happen?” when Stuart gets jumped is exactly what you hear from idiots who never played hockey in their lives. If you don’t every goof is going to take runs at your stars and see what they can get away with, F’that. I don;t care if his head was down, don’t care if it’s legal, you level someones meal-ticket, their teammate like that… and someone is going to attack you. Period. Its called hockey.

      Gretzky and Yzerman got to play in this league a long time without much in the way cheapshots or getting destroyed, and a large reason for that was it was known, WELL KNOWN, that doing so will trigger a war in which Semenko, McSorley or Probert & Kocur were coming to start.

      Don’t ever think you can destroy a star without consequences ever

      • x2006mbh - Jan 26, 2013 at 10:36 PM

        the announcers are actually regarded by many hockey writers as 2 of the best in the league, maybe you should come out of your cave and educate yourself a little about the people you insult; here i’ll help you

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Remenda

        those “idiots” know alot more about hockey then you do i can promise you that, I mean its a wonder you are not running the league with your hockey sense. And there shouldn’t be a fight if your superstar gets hit, if he’s so good maybe he should keep his head up and not get steam rolled. Landy even said himself it was a clean hit. And for the record you can destroy a star without consequences, its called being Milan Lucic

      • misterchainbluelightning - Jan 26, 2013 at 11:51 PM

        Is this a joke? Drew Remenda is an absolute joke which is why he is working in a mid market local team.

        “Best in the league” What an idiot comment.
        Blah Blah Blah you never played hockey before, every team carries 1-2 guys for the specific reason I pointed out. And it’s been that way since the NHL began.

        Now get to steppin’ with your idiot completely moronic man love for 2 local broadcasters who never leave home and will never be on a national broadcast.

        And again, nobody cares if it’s a clean hit, so thanks for pointing out meaningless facts. Perhaps is Landeskog said he wished his teammate didn’t stick up for him you would have some sorta point. But all you have managed is clap trap garbage from your bubble.

      • misterchainbluelightning - Jan 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM

        Oh did I say mid market, I meant small market nowheresville.

        Same idiots who called Jason Spezza, Jason Speeeeeza all night, these Idiots who are in fact some of the worst in the game, can’t even pronounce visiting players names correctly
        I’ve heard the proper Spet-za, and Spez-za, but never Speeeeeza like the long e in “Cheese”

        So again, your 2 morons don’t even know the visiting players for the most part, and are league wide jokes because they are in fact the worst 2 morons currently calling NHL games.

        Now go get your shine box

      • drub1959 - Feb 1, 2013 at 5:16 PM

        Gretzky ran away from everything. Yzerman handled many of his own battles

      • drub1959 - Feb 1, 2013 at 5:18 PM

        Yzerman stood up for himself on many occasions. Gretzky was a wuss.

  2. bigoldorcafromvan - Jan 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Looks like the Rome / Norton hit a couple years ago and we all know where that went.

    • scottybcboy - Jan 26, 2013 at 8:22 PM

      It wasn’t late or dirty but other than that….ya, looked the same.

  3. aspinaci - Jan 26, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Should be a suspension. Stuart launched himself. I would hate to see a talent like Lando lose time from a cheap shot like that.

    • cardsandbluesforever - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      i dont know why the announcers were calling that a good hit. VERY obvious from the replay that he launched himself at landeskog- wasnt shoulder to shoulder it was elbow to the chin, easy to see plain as day. thats almost the exact same hit that joe thornton his david perron with and he was out for over a season with PCS.

      Stuart should be fined and suspended.

      good response by O’Byrne, that exactly what you’re supposed to do when some clown decides to go head hunting on one of your team mates.

      • mthomp911 - Jan 26, 2013 at 8:18 PM

        Landeskog should know better than to leave your head down watching the puck when a defender is keying on you. And if you watch the replay closely Stuart did not launch himself, getting a few inches in the air was the result of a hard hit.

        I was at the game. Colorado was controlling the game up until that hit. With the stupid retaliation penalty (a face shield and instigating a fight?, come on dude!) the game was over in the next 4 minutes. That hit obviously changed the game, thanks Detroit for allowing Brad Stuart back to SJ!

    • capesouth - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:09 PM

      Anybody would hate to see players get hurt, but they chose to play the game. Everyone is fair game. Just because he is a big time player doesn’t mean he can’t get run. Rules of the game don’t change just bc he’s a star and I’m sure he would agree. Great hit.

      • aspinaci - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:26 PM

        I agree that everyone is fair game and I don’t think anyone is saying the rules should or would change. I guess we will just have to wait to see what Shanny says. I’ll be surprised if he says “great hit”.

      • drewsylvania - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

        The rules say you can’t target the head–which is exactly what Stuart did.

      • capesouth - Jan 26, 2013 at 8:47 PM

        He didn’t target the head. Nobody actually targets another players head. Anyone who thinks an NHL player thinks ‘i am going to nail this guy right in the head’ before he goes and lays a hit is completely ignorant to the game. Nobody does that. The only people who think they do ‘target’ the head are homers who can’t see what actually happened. Saying it is a dirty hit more and more doesn’t make it so. Like the announcers said, clean hit.

  4. polegojim - Jan 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Not a horrible hit… but an EXCELLENT response.

    That’s exactly what you want from O’Byrne in that situation. Nobody takes a shot like that against your C without repercussion. NOBODY.

    The announcer is weak, spineless, and should peal off his girly tights before getting back behind the microphone.

    • mp1131211 - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:43 PM

      Excellent head shots from Byrnes fist. Hope Stuart is out for a long time.

    • drub1959 - Feb 1, 2013 at 5:21 PM

      O’Byrne should stick up for his Captain but he should also have gotten the penalties that he was awarded.

      • polegojim - Feb 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM

        Yep – and I’ll take the penalty minutes every time.

  5. pshanks62 - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    It’s called HOCKEY

  6. capesouth - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Every big hit has to be over-analyzed and broken down frame by frame nowadays. “His shoulder grazed his head and he elevated 1 cm off the ice…” etc etc. Good hit. And fine response. I wouldn’t mind if they got Stuart back later in the game in some other way (vs causing a melee) but can’t blame a teammate for going to the defense of his team’s star player. Clean all around!

    • sabatimus - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

      A forearm to the chin while leaving your feet is a clean hit?

      • dreadpiratesteve - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:40 PM

        Where did you see a forearm to the chin? Clean hockey hit, pure and simple. If you want to blame someone, blame Landeskog for having his head down until the moment Stuart gets there to lay the wood to him.

      • drewsylvania - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:53 PM

        “Where did you see a forearm to the chin? ”

        Right on the replay?

  7. letthecoldcome - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Yeah, it lead to two goals against the Av’s because of that ‘response.’ That’s totally what you want in a hockey game. Good call buuuuuuuud.

  8. sjsharks66 - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Just won’t let that Thornton hit go will you blues fans? This hit is clean! Glad to see someone land a big hit. Murray has been laying off lately.

  9. sjtorpitt - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Questionable, but don’t think it’s In line for a suspension. Liked the hit though.

  10. kingjoe1 - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Good hit??? Are you kidding me? Staurt laid an elbow to the kids face. That is a one game suspension for sure.

  11. nogoodtomedead - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    As a Sharks fan I think he should have tried to avoid contact with his head. Fine I’m okay with- have an issue with suspensions when no penalty was called.

  12. blkeskimo1785 - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    I’m an Avs fan and I thought the hit was clean, the reaction by O’Byrne was justified, and that was it. The instigator penalty is crap, and the commentators for the Sharks are serious homers; but that’s what they get paid to do. Not as bad as Pittsburgh (Bob Errey) or Boston (Jack Edwards).

  13. sabatimus - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Some real Sharks homers on here.

    • dreadpiratesteve - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:42 PM

      Some real panty waist “hockey” fans in here too…

      • drewsylvania - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:54 PM

        As well as some idiots who don’t know the rulebook or know how to watch a replay.

  14. drewsylvania - Jan 26, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Did they change the illegal check rules during the break? I don’t see how this could be legal.

    • drewsylvania - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:54 PM

      Whee, look at me, I’m some cowardly downthumber who won’t defend his stance.

    • scottybcboy - Jan 26, 2013 at 8:30 PM

      Dude, did you watch the second video. Incidental contact to the head, as long as you don’t target and make full body contact, is NOT illegal. It really couldn’t be more clear. Thanks to O’Brien for including that second vid, by the way, let’s educate some of these ‘fans’.

      • drewsylvania - Jan 26, 2013 at 10:40 PM

        Nothing incidental about it. The hit was launched at a high point.

  15. sjsblitz - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Looks more like shoulder to head, however it still targets the head (intentional or not). Fine and a day suspension max. Good to see O’Byrne stick up for his captain, complete lols at an attempt to kill a hot SJ PP.

  16. jl9830 - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Not a horrible hit, but can’t blame the Avs for taking umbrage at a hit on Landeskog. He is their franchise player, after all. If Brad Stuart (or anyone else) hesitates next time before hitting Landeskog, O’Byrne will have done his job.

  17. betrayedbylife - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    favorite part is the homer announcer crying about the fight because the shark is manhandled.

    • joethorntonisclutch - Jan 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      Favorite part for me was Marleau’s pair ;)

  18. geo91 - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Landeskog looked up and saw him coming, he’s got to protect himself better than that and it only looks like a forearm or shoulder to the head because Gabe was lower than him. If that’s not a good hit then they ought to just outlaw open ice hits and say there can only be contact along the boards.

  19. pensfan603 - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    I dont think stuart intended this to be a cheap hit, but he hits him in the head and explodes through, if Landeskog didnt have his head down like an idiot we wouldnt have this problem but whatever, I hope he learned his lesson. But Stuart should either get a warning or a 1 game suspension.
    The most annoying part of this though is the announcer what a homer.
    Bryan has to stick up for his team and show the other team they cant be doing that kind of stuff to there captain and their team, its a classy move to try to protect your team. The real problem here is the 17 minutes in penalties he gets, Im all for an instigator penalty but really 10 minutes is to much cut it to 5.

  20. chibimike - Jan 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    If that is a dirty/suspension worthy hit, then they may as well play in skirts, because it is the ice capades.

  21. sharkmaster88 - Jan 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    A bunch of lousy idiots complaint about a great hit. I don’t know which announcer these jokers are talking about but the one announcer I heard stated is was a good clean hit and he will call out his teams bad hits when he sees them.

  22. billsfan13594 - Jan 26, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Reminds a lot of Kronwall on Voracek.

    If that’s clean, so is this one. The onus is one Landeskog to keep his head up.

  23. phillyphanatic77 - Jan 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    When I watched the game live I thought it was a dirty hit. But after watching several replays I’d say it was clean. Borderline, but still clean. I don’t believe his feet left the ice until after contact as a result of momentum. And any contact with the head was as a result of Landeskog having his head down. Just my opinion, we’ll see what the league says.

  24. mrhyperpants - Jan 27, 2013 at 1:52 AM

    Stuart should of been sent off.

  25. mrhyperpants - Jan 27, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    Stuarts hit completely changed the game. He should of been in the box as well. Refs must be getting blow jobs from the sharks after the game.

  26. andidee15 - Jan 27, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    The biggest problem I have with this hit is that the ONLY contact happened to Landeskog’s head. In all of the legal hits, the two player’s bodies made contact too. That wasn’t the case here. I also understand that sometimes players can leave their feet while delivering a legal hit, but Stuart got just a bit too much air for me to completely believe that was the case. The trajectories don’t make sense.

    I’m not saying that Landy shouldn’t have gotten rocked – it’s what you get when you have your head down around the blueline – and I have no problem with good, clean hits, even against my Captain. But after watching the replay frame-by-frame, Shanahan should definitely be taking a look at this one.

  27. ntvd7 - Jan 27, 2013 at 2:48 AM

    Clean hit, fluid….

    Anyone who disagress obviously hasn’t played the game before…

    At what point is he “launching” himself? Stuart isn’t that type of player, never has been

  28. jovocop2112 - Jan 27, 2013 at 3:30 AM

    I really wonder how many responses would be different if it was Marleau (or Thornton, or Crysby) who got hit. Hopefully someone breaks Patrick Marleau in half next game so I can find out. Dirty hit from a real scumbag player.

  29. sizzle299 - Jan 27, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    Brayden Schenn loses a game, then so should Stuart. Gotta be consistent. But here, it’s consistently wrong. Those hits are clean “hockey” hits.

    The league set a very bad precedent last season with all this over-analysis and frame by frame retrospective nonsense. Do you know how fast the game moves? “See here in this 1/600th of a second, he decided to go for his head”…. give me a break. Is this what the game has become? For every hit there’s a lawyers squabble? Let the refs call it on the ice. If it is a CLEAR and INTENTIONAL head hit, i.e. Torres, James Neal in last year’s playoffs, etc., then you suspend.

    Enough of this. It makes following the game so undesirable.

  30. antkowiak666 - Jan 27, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    if it was Crosby,the suspension would have been handed down before Stuart even got off the ice from his beat down.

  31. sjsharks86 - Jan 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    So to all you idiots who thought this was deserving of a penalty/fine/suspension you’ll be disappointed to hear that there will be no further action or review regarding the hit, not that it was even questionable by anyone with half a brain. Even Landeskog said he thought it was clean. If you need help getting your heads out of your @$$e$ compare the NHL’s 3rd example of a legal hit to the one last night & try to find a difference between the 2 (a real one, not some imaginary, grasp at straws). Also, please keep in mind that Stuart doesn’t play dirty & Hahn & Remenda are probably the smartest, most objective NHL announcers out there, they have no problem calling out the Sharks when they do something stupid or messed up. Despite me being a Sharks fan myself, I’m pretty good at being objective about situations such as these as well (although I’m sure it would be impossible to convince you @$$clowns otherwise). Learn the game & use your eyes before you decide to post stupid, nonsense on here.

  32. enpfhy - Jan 27, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    I like all the people calling it a bad hit when Landeskog himself called it a good clean hit.

    Why don’t all you commenters go tell Landeskog that he’s wrong about the hit he took, and that you know better.

    • joethorntonisclutch - Jan 28, 2013 at 10:59 AM

      Exactly what I was thinking. Landeskog himself said it was clean and that he should have kept his head up (as opposed to down, which is why he got nailed).

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