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What’s the cause of the Flyers’ struggles?

Jan 20, 2013, 7:23 PM EDT

BUFFALO, NY - JANUARY 20: Scott Hartnell #19 of the Philadelphia Flyers controls the puck against Marcus Foligno #82 of the Buffalo Sabres on January 20, 2013 at the First Niagara Center in Buffalo, New York. (Photo by Bill Wippert/NHLI via Getty Images) Getty Images

Usually you want to try to avoid reading too much into a rough start to the season, but with the 48-game schedule, a 0-2-0 record is concerning. After dropping games against Pittsburgh and Buffalo, Philadelphia needs answers quickly if they want to avoid digging a bigger hole for themselves.

One of the areas that they’ve struggled in early on is killing penalties. Philadelphia was merely adequate in that regard last season, but they’ve already surrendered five power-play goals in just two contests in 2013. That accounts for the Flyers’ entire goals deficit so far.

“There’s lots of things, but yes, we have to be better in that area,” Flyers coach Peter Laviolette said in a CSN Philly report. “… the penalty kill we have to look at it and work at it.

“Every day is a new opportunity, but we gotta get on track here, get a win in the column and moving in the right direction.”

Flyers captain Claude Giroux suggested that the team needed to get off to a better start in Sunday’s 5-2 loss to Buffalo and Danny Briere‘s absence due to a hairline fracture in his wrist is also hurting them.

Whatever the problems might be, the Flyers need to address them quickly. The condensed schedule means that Philadelphia won’t have much time to reflect on its early losses. After getting Monday off, they will play five games in just eight days. That stretch includes two games against the New York Rangers and one against another division rival, the New Jersey Devils.

“We gotta change the situation quickly if we want to be part of the playoff race,” Ilya Bryzgalov noted.

  1. killerpgh - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    I hope it’s because they suck, but I don’t see that being the issue. During a full season there is no need to panic until around 20 games in. This season panic time might be 14 or so games into the year.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Jan 20, 2013 at 10:05 PM

      Another factor might be karma for the crimes against hockey they committed in the 1970s.

  2. darthkoopa - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    This is such a BS article. In a few hours when the Rangers loose will we see a story about how they are 2-0 and their season is in trouble?

    That said the Flyers have some work to do.

    • mp1131211 - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:49 PM

      Flyers look like they have no leadership out there, no identity, not cohesive.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM

        They have no leadership – you just hit the nail right on the head.

    • xavier46 - Jan 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM

      How can you lose and be 2-0?

      Just a thought.

  3. bobhpine - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    Maybe because baldilocks laviolette is a terrible coach, their captain is a ginger, their fan base is full of Neanderthal morons, their goalie is a slow adult. Maybe it’s something else, I don’t know.

    • eyeh8goodell - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:49 PM

      I think that’s a very astute observation, Bob. Very true. But i’ll admit i love me a good Bryzgalov interview.

    • andyb02 - Jan 20, 2013 at 11:43 PM

      You must be a pittsburgh fan*

  4. mp1131211 - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Funny Bryz said that…. I don’t think he’s been too sharp- not like last playoffs, of course, but still not that good.

  5. travishenryskid - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Where is the offense supposed to come from other than Giroux? Average defense at best. Bryz is hit or miss. On paper it’s a very questionable roster.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 20, 2013 at 11:39 PM

      You obviously don’t know the roster if you’re questioning their offensive capability. Giroux, Hartnell, Simmonds, Schenn, Couturier, Briere, Voracek, and Talbot all put up points and goals last season. And first rounder Scott Laughton is looking like a steal. Bryzgalov has been solid in both games, he’s not the problem. The biggest issue has been the penalty kill, no question. And PP is a close second. But seriously opposing fans on here need to calm their excitement… it’s been two freakin games! The Flyers haven’t played that poorly. They had plenty of chances to take the Pens game and todays game was tied with five minutes left in the third. There was barely a training camp and no Preseason games to prepare following a lengthy lockout, so of course teams are going to be rusty. I mean Lundqvist looked like Trevor Kidd tonight. Think that trend will continue? On paper this roster is very solid, it’s just been a matter of execution. And that will come as a rhythm develops. Doubters will soon be proven wrong.

      • travishenryskid - Jan 21, 2013 at 9:00 AM

        Schenn, Couturier and Laughton have combined for less than 50 points in the NHL. Talbot has one season of more than 30 points and is generally a 25 point player. Briere is hurt. Hartnell had a career year last year, he’s generally a 50 point player. Simmonds had some finish last year, but he needs to do it again. As far as proven talent goes, they are at the bottom of the east. I mean, you have Brayden Schenn on your top line. He’s scored 21 points in his NHL career. Talk about taking some leaps of faith.

      • chitownbullet - Jan 27, 2013 at 3:23 PM

        Well I am a Hawks fan, that being said the schedule is going to be brutal for every team. It doesn’t allow for much healing time as the schedule is so condensed and of course about 40% of the season has been lopped off. But I’ll tell you Philadelphia is an extremely talented team they’ve got scoring completely up-and-down their lineup and every line is dangerous. It’s just taking a little time to fight through injuries and getting the chemistry back to where it needs to be. I just hope the Hawks aren’t playing them when they get their act together at least until the playoffs that is. Both teams have such a huge following and tradition in their own right and it would be a travesty if Philadelphia didn’t make the playoffs this year. And for what it’s worth when there’s no competition between the teams I’ll root for Philadelphia.

  6. xxshookonexx - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    How about getting into less penalty kill situations…..crazy right?

    • jpelle82 - Jan 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

      blame hartnell

  7. mungman69 - Jan 20, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Stop committing stupid penalties then you won’t have to worry about killing them.

  8. wisdomnfl - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    The refs are against them. It’s the only plausible explanation.

  9. mafmvp - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Even from his couch, Cris Pronger was a better captain. This Giroux kid is in over his head

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM


      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 20, 2013 at 11:50 PM

        It’s been two games! There is no validity to baseless claims like this. Giroux was the de-facto captain for almost all of last season when they put up over a hundred points, were a top-five offense, and knocked out the Stanley Cup favorite. Nothing has changed. Hockeywithdrawal simply holding a grudge against Giroux and the Flyers doesn’t mean he’s a bad captain. Just saying over and over that the Flyers have leadership problems will not make it so, no matter how much you may wish it.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM

        Um, I just was agreeing with something someone else said…how is that holding a grudge? I don’t care whether Philly succeeds or falls apart in the Giroux era – my honest opinion is that he is an under-educated, over-opinionated, selfish, arrogant, dirty player who doesn’t really care about anything but himself out there. Good skills, but he really needs to work on the rest of those things to be a leader. A simple hair cut isn’t going to do it.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 22, 2013 at 3:51 AM

        Wow you just completely proved my point about holding a grudge. Nothing you said is even remotely close to the type of player Giroux is, other than the good skills. What do you know about his education? I suppose you’re a tenured professor at Harvard. When has he been over-opinionated? How is he selfish? or arrogant? or dirty? And don’t give me your slewfoot BS because you’ve proven you have no clue what that actually entails. All your comments are bordering on childish and are simply based on the fact that you’re completely biased towards Giroux and all things Philly.

  10. buffalo65 - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Philly will be okay, the Sabres are just that darn good. Stanley cup, Stanley cup

  11. desertfan - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Flyers need LOU

  12. lordfletcher - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    is this the 9th article on the flyers since they lost again. Jeeze settle down PHT. It’s been to games, it’s still long season in a shortened year.

    flyers will be fine

    -Wild fan

    • lordfletcher - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM



    • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:10 AM

      Nice to see someone besides Pens fan read and troll on Flyers pages. I’m glad you’re capable of using logic, two games doesn’t disqualify you from contention. PHT needs to stop feeding into the irrational frenzy. Flyers will be fine, so will the Rangers. And the Wild look real nice.

    • jpelle82 - Jan 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

      what do you expect? comcast owns the flyers + comcast owns nbc + comcast is in philly = nbc covers the flyers

  13. broadstreetbeatdown - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Keep the hate coming fanboys aka Hens fans its comical. You squeaked a win in yesterday and you act like the cup is yours.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM


    • eyeh8goodell - Jan 20, 2013 at 10:19 PM

      At least these Pens would know a little something about winning a Cup. Can’t say the same for the chronic choke artists in orange.

      • andyb02 - Jan 20, 2013 at 11:46 PM

        Maybe the Flyers should lose every game on purpose this season to get the #1 pick. Any advice you could give us?

      • killerpgh - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:20 AM

        The flyers finished with the worst record in the NHL not that long ago. To bad the Blackhawks won the lottery that year and jumped into first place and got Patrick Kane. How is JVR doing anyways….

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 21, 2013 at 1:03 AM

        Killerpgh, yes the Flyers had one losing season in the last twenty years. The Pens were abysmal enough to draft Ryan Whitney, Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, and Staal all in the top-5 in consecutive years. They made losing a science and turned it into the ultimate bandwagon franchise. It’s ridiculous how many pens fans come on the Flyers pages just to gloat after TWO games. Typical of the most arrogant franchise in hockey.

  14. bricktop02 - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    Hey bob you think the flyers are bad because giroux has red hair? Then you make another moronic comment that the coach is bad. You should be called home depot because you are the biggest tool on here. The defense is the problem and is going to trouble this short year.

  15. bricktop02 - Jan 20, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Hey lordfletcher you were right about fosters shot he has a cannon.

    • lordfletcher - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:09 PM

      when (if) it hits the net, it is very useful, but generally it doesn’t.

      Didn’t see what happened, looks like he needs to start scoring for you guys :)

  16. hockeywithdrawal - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    I think the problem is that they are horrible, horrible people : )

    Time to trade the Captain and fire the coach.

  17. bricktop02 - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Hey withdraw go back down the basement with your sock puppets and put a show on for yourself.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 21, 2013 at 8:01 AM

      My favorite part was all of the behind the play ‘hits’ that didn’t connect hahahaha…watching Schenn and Talbot throw themselves against the boards was HYSTERICAL…pretty much sums up what the Flyers were all about out there.

  18. pensfan603 - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    how do you say refs?
    They have been screwed im sorry but they ahd 2 good goals called off and had mindless penalties that shouldnt have been called.

    • eyeh8goodell - Jan 20, 2013 at 10:20 PM

      Yep, keep blaming the refs. LOL

      • andyb02 - Jan 20, 2013 at 11:55 PM

        Says the guy who probably didn’t watch the game and has no idea what plays he was talking about.

  19. bubblehead22 - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    They believe the hype created by the NHL media. James Neal was the best player on the ice yesterday and barely got a mention. Yet every time Giroux did anything the announcers were singing his praise. Simply over rated and the goalie Bryz is average at best.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      It works to Neal’s favor that he’s underrated though.

  20. bowman20 - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    I hate making excuses but how do you make a goalie interference call and take away a goal, but not enforce the penalty you just called? Last time I checked, a penalty meant someone in the box. Either way, yes a short season, no it’s not time to panic. Too many penalties cuz people are tired and don’t have their legs yet. Pp is not on board cuz chemistry comes with games. Remember, a lot of players played else where during the lockout, but not with NHL players. Whole new beast. Time to shake off the rust n stop with the sloppy penalties. G a bad captain cuz he’s a ginger n Lavys a bad coach? Ur an idiot. Keep blowin smoke dude. D needs to play well n help Bryz, scoring will come. Minus Jagr, same scoring team from last season

    • jpelle82 - Jan 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

      and jagr has more pts than giroux so far…no big deal

  21. bdrs17 - Jan 20, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Typical baby Flyers fans blaming the refs.

    • bowman20 - Jan 20, 2013 at 10:16 PM

      Nice rebuttal fella. Clearly you contribute al

    • bowman20 - Jan 20, 2013 at 10:18 PM

      Nice rebuttal fella. Clearly you contribute a lot to big boy conversations. Know what else would help strengthen your well thought out response? An actual follow up to the previous post. Maybe stats or opposing stand points. But that was good too.

      • mp1131211 - Jan 21, 2013 at 4:33 AM

        Here’s a stat for you: Same scoring team ‘minus Jagr’ ?? That’s not the same scoring team. He had 19 goals and 37 assists. That’s their THIRD highest scorer (that’s sad) and number two assister (even worse). “Same scoring team” minue Jagr = oh s#@!, there goes our team!

  22. andyb02 - Jan 20, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Typical penguins fans. So jealous of the Flyers and their fans they feel the need to comment on every article about them.

  23. selbyrj82 - Jan 20, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    How about giving some credit to the two teams they’ve played too? Pittsburgh is good- remember, it was a huge upset that Philla handled them the way they did in the playoffs last year. Buffalo is also a different team than they were last year- they were talented last year but riddled with injuries and mismatched players. They are now healthy and made some key changes.

    A game against Pitt followed by immediately hopping on the road for a 1230 pm road game in Buffalo the next day isn’t exactly an easy way to start the season.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:17 AM

      One of the few rational thoughts posted to this page.

    • mp1131211 - Jan 21, 2013 at 4:34 AM

      I doubt the problem is Cindy the crybaby. Clearly philly just blows

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 21, 2013 at 10:58 AM

      There are no easy ways to start the season. Pens had Philthy and then NYR…no easier.

  24. broadstreetbeatdown - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    The Hens are going to choke…again.

  25. bdrs17 - Jan 21, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    I’m a sabres fan, not a pens fan. And you can claim that I’m”jealous” all you want because buffalo has 0 championships, but I’d never be jealous of a city who’s fan base cheers when people get injured and throw batteries at opposing players. Sweet city, d-bag.

    • tcclark - Jan 21, 2013 at 4:37 PM

      You realize that 24 people were arrested at that Thursday night Bills-Dolphins game this past season? One guy was hit by a car and was seriously injured, and another guy was kicked out of the game and was found dead at the bottom of a creek. This was about a year after 98 people fans were given driving tickets (including DWIs), 26 people were arrested, and 2 elementary school teachers were caught having sex in the bathroom during a bills-titans game. Every city’s fans have problems. Only Philadelphia’s are pointed out so much…

  26. buffalomafia - Jan 21, 2013 at 6:51 AM

    Easy! Stupid management never addresses the bad goalie sutuation.

    If Philly had a real goalie they might have one a few Staneley Cups with the team they have!

    Go Sabres!

  27. hockeywithdrawal - Jan 21, 2013 at 8:06 AM

    Bottom line – the Cryers tried slewfooting, diving, late hits, head shots, cross-checks in order to get the Pens angry just like in the Play-offs. the Pens, to their credit, took a page from NJ’s book. I wouldn’t have been able to do it. The refs gave both teams opportunities on the PP, I was shouting in the third also about some of the calls against the Pens. Our Centers were thrown out of pretty much every face-off. Philthy had plenty of opportunities, but chose to go for dirty plays instead of goals. Your Captain once again wasn’t on the ice when you needed him most. Slewfoot – no better than Subban.

    • claude28giroux - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:10 PM

      he already is a star in the league

    • claude28giroux - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

      if we are dirty than what does that make the pens?

      • bowman20 - Jan 22, 2013 at 6:32 AM

        No, no….we arent counting that one. We dont count the ones with video proof to back it. Its funny reading more Pen fans commenting on Flyer articles than anyone else.

    • jpelle82 - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM

      only slew foot i saw was an attempt by grossman on malkin, malkin didnt go down but did take a 2 min high stick as a result. i didnt think it was anywhere near the crap we saw on both sides last year in the playoffs dude and i’m a pens fan. side note – grossman looked like the best defensemen out there, not looking forward to him throwing his weight around in 4 more games against the pens.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 22, 2013 at 4:04 AM

      Dude stop talking about this slewfoot crap. You have NO clue what you’re talking about. That wasn’t even close to slewfoot. And it just proves how delusional you are towards reality when you’re saying the Flyers were the ones “slewfooting (again using it despite it not actually occurring), late hits, head shots, cross-checks” in that series. If I remember correctly it was the Pens who had Neal, Asham, and Adams suspended for late hits, head shots to defenseless players, and cross checks to the throat. The Pens were the goons, and the city of pittsburgh still can’t seem to get over that fact. You can’t just rewrite history to suit your argument.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM

        uh, no…I won’t. You are delusional in your take on things. Playoffs aside – I’m wondering, how do you watch that little eff’ing weasel skate up behind Letang, kick the back of his left heel, and NOT call that a slewfoot? That’s clean to you?

        We can drop the BS – just explain how that’s not a slewfoot – I’d like to see if I’m dealing with the world’s biggest idiot, or if you just play the part extremely well.

        From what I hear you saying, it’s not a slewfoot because the Pens played too rough in the playoffs…is that REALLY your point, Philthy boy?

  28. mattyo99 - Jan 21, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    2 games in ppl..relax..

  29. crosbynation87 - Jan 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    maybe your 0 and 2 because the flyers are just simply not very good. Your pp and pk are terrible and buffalo jumped down your throat fast. Giroux is a good player and will be a star in this league but hes average at best right now

    • jpelle82 - Jan 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

      as a pens fan i can still say giroux looked better than average right now. he took a bad penalty but other than that he had a pretty good weekend. he looked much better against the pens than in buffalo – he had some turnovers and overskated a few pucks yesterday but still the best guy on the ice imo. best player for the flyers has been simmonds even though the numbers dont show it, he has been sharp. the schenn’s – both – need to get their heads out of their asses quick though.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 22, 2013 at 4:10 AM

        Appreciate the honesty from a Pens fan, wish more would use rational thoughts. Giroux has been plenty good, Simmonds has been all over the place, and there’s no question the Schenn’s need to improve. You’re accurate in your assessments. The Flyers will be fine, despite what most Pens fans are saying on here.

  30. steelers88 - Jan 21, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    I think the reason why the Flyers are struggling is because there goaltenders arent really that good. They have a good young core that has the potential to score alot of goals. The keyword though is potential.Their PP and PK are struggling and last year they carried the team. The lost of Jagr is huge.

  31. ferrantej - Jan 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    The Flyers D and goaltending will kill them. They’re probably a playoff team, and they might win a round, but that’s about as far as they go. The only reason they won a round last year is because they ran into the one goalie (Fleury) who played worse than Universe in the playoffs. And he only played worse because he played too much during the regular season, which won’t be a problem this year with Vokoun in the fold.

    It will take them a few years (or more) to recover from (A) the whiffing (again) on the goalie search and (B) the loss of Pronger. You can’t just take a defensman like Pronger out of the lineup and not have it affect the whole team.

    • jpelle82 - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM

      tought to recover from having a bad gm

  32. mungman69 - Jan 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Yes, the Flyers PP & PK need a lot of work but there is time to work on them. Not much of a pre season to work on much of anything.

    • jpelle82 - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

      they should start by taking giroux off the pk…he doesnt do jack out there for it except hope for a breakaway. bad philosophy to have your best guy out there when you should be expected to block shots. they dont really have a good specialist though, talbot and couterier are ok but not great.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 22, 2013 at 4:17 AM

        Giroux and Talbot were deadly on the PK last season, that’s why they’re out there. I’d take Giroux off the PK just because it’s clear he’s not in mid-season shape and they need to preserve his legs. It’s not based on performance though. The problem with their PK is they’ve been so passive, last year they used a large box where they were constantly on top of the point men and in passing lanes, and that led to shorthanded scoring chances. Right now they’re playing a condensed box, where all four Pkillers are playing way too close to goal line. They’re allowing the point men to skate right into the slot uncontested. I don’t understand why Lavy is having them play that way.

  33. steelers88 - Jan 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Many Flyers fans say that we got lucky because we were so bad we got to draft Crosby, Malkin, Flurey, Whitney, and Staal. The real difference is I think the Penguins GM Ray Shero is better than Paul Holmgrem look at the trades Shero has made for example he traded Gologoski for Neal and Niskanen he also traded for a pretty good backup Tomas Vouloun.

    • tcclark - Jan 21, 2013 at 5:28 PM

      You want to compare trades? ok. Here are some of Holmgren’s:

      Alexi Zhitnik for Brayden Coburn
      1/2 season of Peter Forseberg for Scottie Upshall, Ryan Parent, a first round pick (later traded for Timonen and Hartnell), and a third round pick
      Joni Pitkanen, Geoff Sanderson, and a 3rd rounder, for Jason Smith and Joffrey Lupul
      R.J Umberger and a 4th for a 1st(Luca Sbisa) and a third (Marc-Andre Bourdon)
      The Pronger trade
      Ole-Kristian Tollefson and a 5th for Ville Leino
      2nd for Meszaros
      Mike Richards and Rob Bordson for Wayne Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, and a 2nd
      Jeff Carter for Jakub Voracek and the 8th pick (Sean Couturier)

      You can keep your backup goalie trade

  34. claude28giroux - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    I rarely posts on here due to idiotic non existent hockey knowledge that most trolls have (case in point the lack of hair or hair color means a player is useless) SMH. Flyers fans please stop bullying Pens fans they only started watching hockey a couple years ago…give em a break would ya.

    P.S. Any penguins fan who calls the flyers a dirty team need to rewind to last years playoffs….neal cheap shot on couts, asham cross check and sucker punch on schenn, i believe malkin even got a couple shots in there as well. wake up and smell the coffee yinzers…NOBODY respected the pens after that embarrassment in the playoffs

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 21, 2013 at 1:49 PM

      There is no such thing as a troll – this is not a support group, call your mom if that’s what you are looking for. Opinions are open here.

      Asham’s shot to Schenn was deserved, but not intentionally in the throat. It was Schenn that was called two seconds before that for an illegal hit, correct? Yes.

      Neal’s shift where he went after “couts” and Giroux both is a prime example of what happens when subjected to too much Cryer BS…good men go bad and start taking heads. Actually, the entire series the Pens were taking heads. Which is why they took a page from New Jersey and didn’t let all of the dirty Cryer BS get to them this time. I’m sure there was more than one person on the ice that would have liked to take another shot at Schenn’s throat when he was called for his dirty cross-check, I’m sure they were upset at Giroux’s slewfoot, etc….but they just played hockey this time around. As did Buffalo. In short, I foresee the league being very hard on the Cryers this year (the way Buffalo was), and many Cryer injuries. Go home, goon.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Jan 21, 2013 at 8:46 PM

        The above poster is a retard. Please Ignore. Thank you, The Management.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 22, 2013 at 4:25 AM

        This is the third time you’ve mentioned the non-existent, phantom slewfoot. You really need to look it up because you have repeatedly shown that you do not understand what a slewfoot is or what it looks like. Show us the video of this mysterious slewfoot if you’re so emphatic about it. I can guarantee you will never find it. Your opinions are complete garbage and have no basis in reality.

  35. steelers88 - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    The Real Deal James Neal!

  36. joewilliesshnoz - Jan 21, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    At 6 to 1, the Pens are a steal to win the cup. Have fun watching them bury every team in the league.

  37. jimeejohnson - Jan 21, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Too bad hate has consumed so many in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. Pennsylvania has two of the top 5 teams in the league, and a rivalry does not have to be dominated by hatred. Just sayin’.

    • claude28giroux - Jan 21, 2013 at 1:46 PM

      yes it has everything to do with hatred, thats what makes this rivalry so much fun to be a part of

    • ferrantej - Jan 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM

      Hatred MAKES a rivalry (this is coming from a Pens fan). Do you think Detroit and Colorado were sending each other Christmas cards in the 90s? I HATE the Flyers – I’d root for the al-Qaida all star team over the Flyers, and I’m sure their fans feel the same way about the Pens. The NHL wanted Pens-Flyers as the opening game for a reason.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 22, 2013 at 4:31 AM

        Hahah the “al-Qaida all star team”. That’s hilarious. I’d say the posts on this page prove just how contentious this rivalry is.

      • ferrantej - Jan 22, 2013 at 8:05 AM

        This is the most commented post by far of the past few days, which also shows how heated of a rivalry it is.

  38. dirkanger23 - Jan 21, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Getting Briere back wil improve their offense. I would also move Voracek back up to the first line with Giroux & Hartnell. That line had great chemistry all last season. I would also emphasize putting a big body in front of the net when they’re in the offensive zone. They’re giving the opposing goalies too many clear looks at the puck.
    As far as killing power plays? I HATE the system they employ. They set up in a square formation & remain in their positions while try to poke check the puck away in the passing lanes. What they should be doing is being aggressive as hell, like the Devils & Rangers, and chasing after the puck carrier like he owes them money. They’re wayyy too laid back on the penalty kill & it’s something that did them in at the end of the playoffs last year.

    • ferrantej - Jan 22, 2013 at 8:09 AM

      The Pens tried the aggressive approach in the playoffs last year – didn’t work out too well. Sometimes doing nothing is better than trying to do everything.

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