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Discuss: Penguins slip by Flyers

Jan 19, 2013, 6:12 PM EDT

PHILADELPHIA - JANUARY 19: James Neal #18 of the Pittsburgh Penguins fights for the puck with Braydon Coburn #5 of the Philadelphia Flyers at Wells Fargo Center on January 19, 2013 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (Photo by Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images) Getty Images

The Pittsburgh Penguins and Philadelphia Flyers took part in an engaging matchup on Saturday, but relatively speaking, you couldn’t throw around the term “battle.” The two teams were borderline civil as the Penguins won 3-1 thanks to an empty-netter at the end.

Let’s get to the talking points.

  • Marc-Andre Fleury set a record for Pittsburgh Penguins goalie wins with No. 227. Is he already the best netminder in team history, or do you give the edge to Tom barrasso/someone else?
  • Ilya Bryzgalov and Fleury both looked more like goalies than sieves on Saturday. Is that a sign that each guy could live up to their pay checks this season?
  • Evgeni Malkin had an assist, Claude Giroux scored a goal and Sidney Crosby was held without a point. So, which player ends up with the most and which one scores the least?
  • These two teams combined for just 16 penalty minutes today. Huh?
  • Considering the condensed schedule and the fact that this was a divisional matchup, could we look back at this win as a pretty significant one for the Penguins?
  • Jakub Voracek fired six shots on goals in the game but failed to find the net. Can he justify the Flyers big investment in him?
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  1. pensswag91 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Penguins stepped up their defense today, really helped MAF get the job done.

  2. misterchainbluelightning - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Nice 2 min for tripping “Captain”

    • pensswag91 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:16 PM

      The “C” is not for composure

      • misterchainbluelightning - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:22 PM

        In all honesty I love Claude, he will be a great Captain, I just can’t resist kicking a Philly anything fan when down.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:49 PM

      Letang the Diver. Enough said!!

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:21 PM

      That was a straight-up slewfoot, textbook. Dirty play by a dirty player. Once again sitting by and watching when his team needs him the most. Great choice, Philthy.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 20, 2013 at 1:47 AM

        What an ignorant comment. That call was questionable, at best. And Giroux is far from dirty. You need to stop looking at everything with a completely partial slant. The Pens dominated the first period, but after that the Flyers had em on their heels. The Pens held the Flyers off for the win, but it had a playoff feel and flow. These two teams are evenly matched and I can’t wait for the next game.

      • supercoop8 - Jan 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM

        I’m not sure you understand what a slewfoot is, maybe misinformation from your textbook. I don’t care for either team but every Pens game Letang goes down like he’s been lightning struck and sprawls around on the ice like he’s half jelly fish half American Apparel model, usually from minimal contact.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM

        Hey Gents – watch the tape – it becomes more and more apparent. Giroux skated into the play, behind Letang, and quickly tried to kick his left foot out from under him from behind before Letang even knew he was there….not a slewfoot? Please justify, your credibility is slipping in my book. Dirty play, in my eyes.

  3. sportsfreak13 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Pens penalty kill 5-5! What a great team effort. Sutter had one heck of a first game as a penguin.

    • pensswag91 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:22 PM

      Adams filled his role perfectly today.

    • letsgopens8771 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:29 PM

      Without a doubt. Sutter was awesome and I was also impressed with Tanner Glass’s effort on the PK. Overall, great team defense and we kept up the intensity. PK was awesome.

  4. pens87 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Oh yea for the Pens!

    But seriously…was there a better way to kick off the season then this game? Love the cross state rivalry games, never fail to disappoint in terms of keeping you at the edge of your seat. Guys on both teams did look winded at times, but was still an intense game (no fights?!?!). Can’t wait to the next one.

  5. thetruth234567 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    has the nhl turned into a business like the nba and nfl? where they favor players and teams? did anyone else see the horrible penalty call to start the game? where sid the baby, kicks claudes legs out, and gets a penalty call?

    • pensswag91 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:26 PM

      There were plenty of non-calls today for both sides; you can’t expect them to be machine-perfect. Officiating did just fine today.

      • thetruth234567 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:29 PM

        they didnt even know who to put in the box?!!!!!
        it was rid…… they hope a bunch of ants watch the games and dont see whats going on.

      • pensfan603 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM

        Im a penguins fan but if i was a flyers fan i would be pissed, Both of Giroux penalties were BS. Ya the pens got called for a lot but when it mattered, Letang didnt get called for the penalty he should of and crosby got away with a few, also sutters penalty was bs like wtf is that ref the flyers player tripped but whatever i hope to see less like that in the future

      • thetruth234567 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:43 PM

        thanx pensfan, u are real!!!!!! call it how i see it. the truth

      • rawgator06 - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:18 PM

        anyone else get the feeling that pennsfan and thetruth are the same person?

      • whatthepuck2012 - Jan 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM

        Good teams can overcome bad officiating if/when it happens. 0 FOR 5, Philly. Gotta cash in on those. Otherwise stop whining about the refs.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:24 PM

      If you are talking about the interference, you must have been drinking before the game – Sid wasn’t engaged with Giroux, it was Giroux that came in late to hold him up from the man he was engaged with. And how about Giroux’s complete DIVE when he bought the trip off of the face-off? If he can’t stand on skates better than that, hockey’s not his sport!

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 20, 2013 at 2:16 AM

        Such a hypocrite, criticize others for talking about potential questionable calls then you bring up one yourself.

  6. mpg44 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM


  7. thetruth234567 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    flyers played better then the pens for 2 out of 3 periods, and if they didnt get handed a pp and scored. we would of had a even better game going into overtime! NHL needs to stop refing games like the nba and the nfl.

    • pensswag91 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:29 PM

      Refs had nothing to do with the outcome of this game. MAF and the Pen’s defense held the Flyers to their 1st loss of the season.

      • thetruth234567 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:31 PM

        yeah ok the first pp for the pens was bs!!!!! and u scored on it!!! ruined a great game

    • sportsfreak13 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM

      You do realize you were 0-5 on the power play right? Comments like yours is why we call you “cryer” fans.

      • thetruth234567 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:33 PM

        what does that have to do with the pens getting handed a call in the first 2 mins of the game.???? and scoring on it. daaaaaaa.

      • sportsfreak13 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:36 PM

        It was interference get over it.

      • pensswag91 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM

        I know if the Flyers had won, a different song would be sung right now.

    • bmscalise - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM

      The Flyers were clearly the better team in the 2nd, not in the 3rd. The Pens did their job in the 3rd and frustrated them defensively. The Flyers only had 3 shots in the first 14 min of the 3rd period. The only reason the shots are close to even is because of the penalty trouble the Pens got themselves in. In fact, the Flyers had very few good chances 5 on 5 the entire game.

      And whining about the officiating? Please. The game was generally well called.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:26 PM

      The refs gave the Cryers chance after chance after chance to get a goal on a PP…kept calling NOTHING in the third…threw our centers out of every face-off for BS…how can you even begin to use that argument?

  8. jennettalia - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Good start to the season. Was the game of choice for me. My Ducks play later, but until then, it’s Stamkos vs Ovi from here.

    But yeah, a good game. I thought it kinda cooled down later in the game, but it was quite the gun show for the first two. Pittsburgh showed off early, dominated the first. Philly bounced back, dominated the second. Lead to a 3rd which was close the whole way. About as good as hockey gets. It looked like people were finishing checks like crazy. Was expecting a fight. Physical game all the same.

    Really happy to have chosen this game over the other two blowouts. Side note: I always enjoy going to twitter and searching “Crosby” to see what people are saying about him during the game. Pretty funny stuff.

  9. ironcitydonnieiris - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Every point will be important this season. Glad the pens started off that way. Teams looked better than I expected. Looking forward to a few weeks from now when the bugs are out of the teams. GO PENS!!!

  10. thetruth234567 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    it is bs flops by sid the baby big lips that gets him hurt. cause the players in the league dont respect him like they did 99. he kicked claudes legs out, flops and the nhl reward him for it. so the players take it into their hands to go after him cause of his bs. i will be surprised if they dont take him out again. he can sometimes play like a star but he sure doesnt act like it sometimes. why ovechkin is by far better then him. and if he wasnt russian, everyone would agree

    • pensswag91 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:43 PM

      What were you watching today? Nothing you said was even remotely close to what occurred…

      • thetruth234567 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:49 PM

        ur ant. or a drunk. why a pens fan already agreed with me. ur just a happy ant cause your team won. sids a baby. mad about getting whooped last yr.

    • sportsfreak13 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:56 PM

      I find it funny how you call Crosby a baby but in every post you make your crying about the refs or some kind of favoritism towards Crosby. Cool story bro.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:27 PM

      You’re still drinking right now, aren’t you.

  11. broadstreetbeatdown - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Shoot, I really can’t complain about this one. Both teams played a good game and both goalies looked great. Both teams played a physical hard game and it was mostly clean (except for Letang’s theatrics, but thats expected for the leagues dive master). All in all an awesome season opener even though we didn’t win.

    • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:29 PM

      The only person that dove in this game was Giroux, period. Horrible, dirty game from your new Captain.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Jan 19, 2013 at 11:25 PM

        I love your posts. The complete lack of sense and hockey knowledge is staggering. Letang is renowned around the league as a diver. Relax pal, your team won today. Take a deep breath and enjoy instead of showering all that hate on the world’s greatest hockey player.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Jan 19, 2013 at 11:35 PM

        How many goals did your captain score?

  12. pensfan603 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Simon Duprese had a great game even though they didnt talk about it.

    • letsgopens8771 - Jan 20, 2013 at 10:47 AM

      He makes me nervous every time he touches the puck. Yesterday, I was badmouthing him and saying he sucks, but he played pretty well yesterday. Good for him.

  13. sprtsfan1 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Hahahaha! Neither of these teams will go anywhere this year. Pens out in the first round. Bryz will be the Flyers demise as he was last year, mental midget.

  14. Stiller43 - Jan 19, 2013 at 6:55 PM


    You can keep cryin all ya want. Doesnt change the fact you were at home, had more PP’s than the pens did, and STILL lost by 2.

  15. jimw81 - Jan 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Very good game by Bryz.the flyers lost game going 0-5 on pp. this kinda game u needed a danny briere.

  16. modellforprez - Jan 19, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Gayrioux sucks Fartsmell swallows. never more excited than to see 20,000 obnoxious desperate douchbags soooo silent walking home losers. what’s it been philthy 35-40 years since you LOSERS had something to cheer other than saying one of if not the best players in the world sux. if those phillies wouldn’t have gotten that series couple years ago you would be in worse of a Drought than the pirates and that in it self is priceless. your like cleveland or cincy to us a bunch of losers. oh yeah zac retardo thinks he so tough till he is out there with engelland and then all of a sudden he is as quiet as kimmy T I’m No man after Letang broke his spirit. PHILLY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

    • stakex - Jan 19, 2013 at 7:55 PM

      Guess someones butt still hurts from the playoffs last year…

      Be happy all you want that the Pens slipped by the Flyers, but neither of these teams are going anywhere this season. Filling the net during the regular season is meaningless if you can’t keep it out of your own net in the playoffs.

    • whatthepuck2012 - Jan 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

      Omg are you 12? Makes me embarrassed to be a fellow Pens fan.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 20, 2013 at 2:08 AM

        I can tolerate Pens fans talking trash after a hard fought win, but modellforprez is the type of fan that should not be allowed to have an opinion. Very surprised he could string together as many syllables as he did. Saying “your like Cleveland or cincy to us a bunch of losers” is not only terrible grammar, it’s beyond arrogance. It was an exciting game and I can’t wait for the next. Fleury seemed like a different goalie, as the Flyers just couldn’t overcome the 2-0 deficit. Call on Giroux at the end was very questionable but we doomed ourselves anyway going 0/5 on the PP. Talk all the trash you want but there’s no denying these teams are relatively even.

  17. csilojohnson - Jan 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Despite the embarrasing playoff series last year. Fleury was great in the regular season.

    • stakex - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:02 PM

      He was OK during the season last year…. not great.

      He was 24th in GAA and 28th in S% (when you count only those with 20 or more games). Hardly “great” numbers. He had a lot of wins, but that was clearly a result of the Pens offense and not his job in net.

      • sportsfreak13 - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:09 PM

        His teammates named him the regular season MVP. If you watched his games rather then just look up stats you would understand how off base your comment really was.

      • sportsfreak13 - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:15 PM

        Not that I’m suprised by your comment. Having a flyer fan evaluate a goalie is like getting dating advice from Manti Te’o.

  18. johnnyresults - Jan 19, 2013 at 7:49 PM


  19. Nofoolnodrool - Jan 19, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Yup I guess you could say it is on.. Bad calls both ways but next time who knows.. Simmons is a punk..hopo he is as brave on the road..doubt it.

  20. Nofoolnodrool - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    Yup 1975 is Bach and live..

  21. mungman69 - Jan 19, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Are the Flyers done already.

  22. broadstbully33 - Jan 19, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    I would love to see videos of these dives? And u did see Rinaldo run England over right? The pens played a solid d game. Don’t start making up stories to make your team seem better and tougher than they are. How did Cindys score sheet look? That’s a great captain for you

  23. malkinrulez - Jan 19, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Truth has a short memory! Forget about brier’s offside he scored on? Using ur theory that swung the playoffs and is why pens lost! Admit ur team got beat , move on

  24. jimeejohnson - Jan 19, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Imagine two Pennsylvania teams having one of the greatest rivalries in all of sports. Both teams haveutremendous legacies exemplified by guys like Bobby Clarke and Mario Lemieux. Have a feeling the season series will play out fairly evenly. Another do or die Philly/Pittsburgh playoff series awaits.

    • whatthepuck2012 - Jan 19, 2013 at 10:30 PM

      Well said!

  25. wisdomnfl - Jan 19, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Good game by both teams great start to the season – looked like real hockey!!!

  26. dcent87 - Jan 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    If the refs didn’t give Give that awful call in the first that none other than Crosby drew(who’d of thought) it would have been a different game.

    • sportsfreak13 - Jan 19, 2013 at 10:54 PM

      All I hear is “waaaaaaaaa”

  27. valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jan 19, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Crosby owned Giroux on the face offs, and both played well though they are a little rusty as are all the boys. Crosby showed his superior hockey sense by the small things he does on the ice that the cameras don’t always show us. Bryz was weak on the second goal.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Jan 19, 2013 at 11:30 PM

      Crosby was a non-factor during this game. I think he may have lingering concussion issues from Giroux laying him out like a rug last year.

    • zetaone - Jan 19, 2013 at 11:32 PM

      Crosby was 7/12 vs. Giroux. I wouldn’t call 58% “owned” exactly..

  28. antmel30 - Jan 19, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    As a flyers fan bummed the flyers loss. Great game bryz an maf both looked 100 times better than last years playoffs. Both teams should be top of Atlantic. Looks like another great year for the rivalry. No bashing just ecstatic hockey’s back.

    • sportsfreak13 - Jan 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

      Why can’t more flyer fans be like you. Well said!

  29. crosbynation87 - Jan 20, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    if flyer fans think today was bad your sprits will be crushed tom when buffalo skates u guys out of the building before the first period is over.

  30. phillyphanatic77 - Jan 20, 2013 at 2:39 AM

    I’m not as salty about this loss as some other Flyers fans on here. Of course I hate losing to the Pens, but the Flyers have no one to blame but themselves. They were never gonna win if they kept playing like they did in the 1st. We could survive deficits in the series last season but you can’t rely on that. Granted we turned it around and made it a typical Flyers-Pens matchup (with the exception of fights) that came down to the wire. But you’re not gonna beat a talented team when you go down 2-0 early and go 0/5 on the PP. Looking like another 4-5 matchup. One positive for Philly fans- Bryz looked very respectable. The Neal goal may have been stoppable but otherwise he kept us in the game early. I kept waiting for that typical soft goal but it never came. And giving up 2 goals to a stanley cup favorite is progress in my mind. Especially in the 1st game of the season after a long layoff. Sucks losing to the Pens but it’s obvious the Flyers belong in the same stratum as Pittsburgh. Gonna be a great Atlantic division race.

  31. mungman69 - Jan 20, 2013 at 5:44 AM

    Stop complaining about the calls, geez.

  32. mungman69 - Jan 20, 2013 at 5:45 AM

    That game was ca

  33. mungman69 - Jan 20, 2013 at 5:47 AM

    That game was called correctly. It was a good game but today Crosby was better than Gero,

    • phillyphanatic77 - Jan 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM

      Look you can talk all you want about the Pens win, but this comment does not correlate to what happened on the ice at all. You can always say that Crosby is a better career player than Giroux, bc he is, but yesterday there’s no doubt Giroux was the better player. Crosby disappeared entirely for the final 40 minutes. They didn’t say his name at all after the first period! Giroux was the Flyers main catalyst and Crosby was a nonfactor. I repeat, I am not saying G is better, he was just better yesterday. Gloat all you want but atleast be accurate and unbiased towards reality.

      • hockeywithdrawal - Jan 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM

        If you can’t win the game, at least you won some type of made-up contest that was going on in your head, right?

  34. bobhpine - Jan 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Pensfan603 is a flyers fan…he must be very busy…nice grammar

  35. eyeh8goodell - Jan 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Ilya Bryzgalov and Fleury both looked more like goalies than sieves on Saturday. Is that a sign that each guy could live up to their pay checks this season?


    Taking the playoff series out of the equation, Fleury played just fine last season. Vokoun is a great addition to take some pressure and mileage off.

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