Comments on: PHT’s Pressing Questions: Can the Flyers keep the puck out of their net? http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/ ProHockeyTalk on NBCSports.com Sun, 19 May 2013 18:19:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: matthewmacisaac http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126709 Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:44:23 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126709 I agree the defense was upgraded just by losing Matt Carle (The lockout was the only way to stop his turnovers and it wasn’t just the amount it was the scoring chances they lead to-Thank You TB). Carle was not just a turnover machine but a horrible defender as well. There isn’t a forward in the league that doesn’t look at going in 1 on 1 on Carle as a 1 on 0. His blocked shots were the result of being out of position and getting hit with the shot. Luongo isn’t an upgrade over Bryz so let that die. Backstrom is a whole different story. The Flyers do have to get the forwards more involved in defense or there will be more of the same.

]]> By: kilejo http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126316 Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:19:18 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126316 They are not going to go after Luongo. They will inquire into the availability for Backstrom if Minn is willing to take something (anything) or get nothing when he leaves as UFA and the Flyers sign him and buy-out Bryzmonot. They have had their eye on Backstrom for a while.

]]> By: ml3939 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126245 Sat, 12 Jan 2013 04:33:10 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126245 Carle was such a detriment to this team. Watching him play on regular basis was beyond frustrating. Starting with his defense- not that good. Whenever he made a play it was usually him recovering from being made to look silly. Normally it did not take much to beat him. He is a good skater, just not particularly fast. Forwards who could skate used him as a turnstile. His lack of speed and sub par passing ability made him an ineffective puck carrier. His shot could not break a pane of glass when it hit the net, and that was not too often. When he played with Pronger this was all hidden and minimalized as Pronger, beyond speed, was excellent in all facets of the game.

His statistics are not a real indication of his ability either. Somehow he managed to garnish time on the power play and did rack up the minutes you are citing but the Flyers are one of the top offensive teams in the league. When he is on the ice with guys like Giroux, Briere, etc, it is only expected he will be open quite often due to their skill and be able to rack up some assists. On the power play he had enough room to build a house with an in-law suite.

If the Flyers gave Brayden Coburn Carle’s role, he would have topped Carle’s offensive stats easily. Fortunately or unfortunately depending how you look at it, Coburn is a better defender and therefore isn’t given the offensive role.

So basically, good riddance to Matt Carle. Appears to have been a good guy off the ice but a guy I would much rather see on the other team.

]]> By: csilojohnson http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126182 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 23:07:23 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126182 No

]]> By: wisdomnfl http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126173 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:43:06 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126173 Pronger done time to rebuild.

]]> By: hawkeyplayer http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126171 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:40:43 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126171 they need an ELITE goalie!

Bryzaster is not the antidote!

]]> By: chrisvegas http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126169 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:29:00 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126169 When you add Pronger on this unit it is elite, but Pronger’s career is over. Still if this unit is healthy, and that is a big IF, then it is still decent. The question is can this Def group stay healthy. I do think Like Schenn will succeed here. Teams often give up on defense-man to early kind of like Atlanta did with Coburn. Also I think Schenn’s role in Philly won’t be as big as it was in Tor early on, so he will have a chance to learn and the pressure won’t be as high. Defenseman take longer to develop, so he still has a chance to become a really good defenseman, and if he can contribute this year the Flyers will def be better for it. I think Flyers are a playoff team, and for those who think they won’t make the playoffs, you are probably the same idiots who said that last year. The Flyers will make the playoffs even if Holmgren has to go out there are trade for another defenseman. As for the Stanley cup, I don’t think Flyers are good enough, unless Bryz turns into the goalie he was supposed to be and the defense can do a decent job. Flyers don’t need a GREAT defense to win, just a good defense with great goaltending. This season is on Bryz.I don’t have much faith in Bryz though, so I think at best they will get to the second round of the playoffs depending on who they play.

]]> By: phillyphanatic77 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126167 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:26:07 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126167 Prongers absence is a legitimate topic for conversation. It’s almost impossible to replace that kind of presence, that’s why they went all out to get Shea Weber. Because he has that ability to influence an entire team.. It’s no excuse or complaint its reality. Pronger will never fulfill his contract and that has left a major hole on the blue line. I do have faith in the rest of our D-men (when healthy) but the Flyers are missing that elite defender.

]]> By: hawkeyplayer http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126166 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:19:32 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126166 quick answer:

HE!_!_ NO!

]]> By: wisdomnfl http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126161 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:02:14 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126161 This team is going nowhere with the goalie situation. Pathetic.

]]> By: jpelle82 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126160 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:51:58 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126160 tired of the what-ifs with pronger…he is gone, fans need to get over it and stop using the excuse. flyers will be fine on the blue line, goaltending should be the concern, as usual.

]]> By: timsabourin http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126152 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:47:39 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126152 **Luke Schenn

]]> By: timsabourin http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126150 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:47:04 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126150 did you also cry when you got the milk bag? (I’m talking about Schenn, if that extremely accurate description didn’t instantly bring that, well, milk bag to mind)

]]> By: ibieiniid http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126129 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:40:25 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126129 sorry, grossmann*

]]> By: loinstache http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126127 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:37:52 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126127 Maybe in ’08/09 but Hamjuice is here to stay

]]> By: broadstbully33 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126126 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:33:37 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126126 If any dman is coming from Vancouver it will be bieska

]]> By: ibieiniid http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126123 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:26:48 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126123 i think Grossman is highly underrated on the Flyers.

]]> By: jimw81 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126119 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:10:51 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126119 Carle was a turnover machine.

]]> By: xflyersx http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126114 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:04:01 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126114 Guess what, we have Giroux!

]]> By: loinstache http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126106 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:48:41 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126106 Luo + Ballard for a return Flyer fans probably won’t like

]]> By: gscheelar http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126095 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:30:24 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126095 Ooops forgot Carle is in Tampa. That makes it even worse for the Flyers. They have to make a trade to get a D man. The problem is that they don’t have much room under the cap unless they deal some salary (read: quality player) in return.

Yup, they are in trouble.

]]> By: gscheelar http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126090 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:23:29 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126090 When you look at the age of the key defenders, the injury history of those key defenders and the instability (that’s putting it nicely) of the goaltending situation in Philly, they will be battling with Carolina, Buffalo and Tampa for the last 2 playoff spots. This is the kind of season that will expose the weak links and without Mezaros, Timonen and Pronger, you’ve got Carle, Coburn and a bunch of mediocre leftovers. Schenn is over-rated and will not do well in Philly.

It would not surprise me to see them miss the playoffs entirely because of these gaping holes. I think they will make the playoffs, but will be a borderline team. Now, if they make some deals (ie Luongo) that may change.

]]> By: jimw81 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126088 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:18:38 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126088 i wouldnt be surprised after cba is ratified they go out and trade for defenseman.

]]> By: bostonboy82 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126087 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:16:09 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126087 Top Story?

]]> By: killerpgh http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126085 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:14:37 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126085 I will be interested to see how Schenn does. People complain about Carle turnover the puck, but Schenn had move giveaways in less games than Carle last hear and Schenn lacks the offensive upside. People say Schenn is a defensive defenseman. But last year he was 5th in average short handed ice time per game on a below average Leafs defense. Schenn average 16:02 minutes per game last year. Carle averaged 23:01 per game. Now Schenn doesn’t have to replace Carle but if Schenn is expected to fill a top 4 role he will be averaging about 4 more minutes a game on the ice. I would say the defense unit took a step back this year for last.

]]> By: flyerguy73 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126083 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:07:03 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126083 I am a huge flyers fan, and I almost cried when they signed Bryz. He is defenitely NOT the answer. With Mez,and Prongs out, it is going to be very tough to win a Stanley cup. Playoffs, yes and Stanley cup NO. Luongo would be great for this team, but will never happen. Either way, I am happy that there will be hockey.

]]> By: joeyashwi http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126080 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:02:02 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126080 Hot goalies win playoff games and cold goalies lose them. Bryz lost those games for the Flyers. They could have had six Prongers but the way he played it wouldn’t have mattered. I don’t think he’s a bad goalie, he just slumped at the worst possible time. I’m shocked nobody has tried to pry Backstrom from my Wild. Last year of his contract and a major upgrade for 90% of teams out there plus the Wild have a solid stable of young, talented goaltenders that are very close to being NHL ready. Trade deadline acquisition?

]]> By: boondocksaint7 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126076 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:54:33 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126076 Let’s go Pens!

]]> By: broadstbully33 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126075 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:51:36 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126075 Out D is solid our fire wagon offense is a problem when only 2 of out 4 lines play d and back check. Bryz kills me with the 2 guaranteed soft goals a game. Our top4 d is pretty impressive on paper it’s just the O that new to play a a more defensive style

]]> By: nach0mancandysandwich http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/11/phts-pressing-questions-can-the-flyers-keep-the-puck-out-of-their-net/comment-page-1/#comment-126073 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:48:31 +0000 http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=924113#comment-126073 Haha thank you. Very funny.

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