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Report: NHLPA already has votes needed to file disclaimer of interest

Jan 4, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT

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The NHLPA already has the necessary votes to file a disclaimer of interest if the union chooses, according to Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos. Kypreos reports that they haven’t set an “internal date” to make a move as of this time, though.

Time will tell if the measure is merely a threat/tactic or if things will get ugly and tumultuous by going to court.

On that note, the two sides have a status update scheduled for Monday with U.S. District Judge Paul A. Engelmayer.

At the moment, it sounds like the two sides won’t meet face-to-face on Friday.

Instead, a mediator has been bouncing between the two sides with frequency. ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun believes that a day of mediation isn’t necessarily a lost day – and he even gives us some vague hope:

That’s at least more pleasant to think about than this disclaimer of interest tedium, right?

  1. sportsfan69 - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Again, the NHLPA reveals itself nothing more than a Mafia gang. Intimidation and scare tactics. Frank Rizzo must be running the PA.

    • stangz11 - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:33 PM

      Well what else are they going to do? If it’s true that the league dug their heels in when the threat of a disclaimer evaporated then this makes perfect sense. If anything it will be the leverage the NHLPA needs to encourage more movement and an eventual agreement. Honestly I’m pretty disappointed that the owners responded so poorly to a positive gesture from the PA in foregoing the disclaimer the first time around. Other than this, the players are out of options.

      • mpg44 - Jan 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM

        Actually no … It doesn’t make perfect sense . This is now the second time they have voted in favor of. Now they have to actually use it or they prove the NHL ‘s accusation correct in that it was merely a scare tactic used in bad faith negotiating. The union bluffed , the NHL called it , you lost . Move on to something else !!

    • grillmarks - Jan 4, 2013 at 8:47 PM

      Jerky Boys Frank Rizzo?

    • tatdue - Jan 4, 2013 at 10:35 PM

      Wow sportsfan69 looks like with joey gone you’ve decided to take over as the new court jester or fool in other words eh? If the players voting to give the PA permission to file a disclaimer of interest is “mafia gang intimidation tactics” then what the heck do you call locking the players out of their jobs and depriving them and their families of their lively hood? ~ let alone all the collateral damage caused to other innocent families that depend on the NHL running to make a living???

      • valoisvipers - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:54 AM

        tatue Playing the poor players lockout card doesn’t fly and you know that.

    • countduku - Jan 5, 2013 at 1:02 AM

      Sportsfan69:
      I’m not sure what you know about the Mafia, but in Chicago, the Mafia doesn’t make threats that they don’t follow through on, much like the PA first vote of disclaimer of interest. It makes people lose respect in you. That isn’t allowed in the Mafia. Right now the Owners are not in the least bit threatened by the disclaimer of interest threat because if the players were serious, it would have been filed already. It won’t happen unless the season is officially cancelled. btw, my opinion is that this whole thing gets sorted out in the next few days anyway. Way to much on the line for both sides.

  2. stakex - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    I have no idea why the players are so eager to file a DoI. If they do, the season is lost… its that simple. For better or for worse, the NHL is not a league that will be bullied by its players, and thus will not respond well to a tactic like this (and thats all it is… a tactic. Obviously the union is more then capable of representing the players).

    So it makes one wonder why the players want a DoI filed so badly. Do they care more about pissing off the owners/Bettman then they do about actually playing… or are the under educated players being fed really bad advice by someone who cares more about fireworks then getting a deal done? Its one or the other at this point.

    • elemeno89 - Jan 4, 2013 at 8:17 PM

      You seem to be a little late to the party and not understand the tactic. At this point given the deadline next week, the doi is mot likely being used as an agent to prop negotiations. I’m sure the negotiations that are happening this week is because the doi could have been filed yesterday, scaring the NHL and the owners to try and make a deal. Is not bullying, it’s just tactics. You also know that the voting is just to give the executive board power to dissolve, not actually dissolving right?

      Your are right however in your assessment that if a doi is filed that the season is gone, because then it goes to the courts. But if we get to next Friday and there’s no cba, and no doi had been filed, then what happens then? A lost season. The lost season blame goes both ways, not just towards the players because they are trying to take advantage of the only chip they have. This is just one giant game of chess at this point , with both parties planning and scheming to get what they want to make a deal that fits best for them.

      • shotzongoal - Jan 4, 2013 at 9:10 PM

        I find it fascinating that the last time the ballot was taken we had to wait 5 days for the results. This time in 24 hours the news is leaked out that the PA has the necessary votes. I guess they needed to put the NHL on notice that the meeting can begin tomorrow.

  3. stangz11 - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    This from Blues writer Andy Strickland:

    “#NHL players will have a chance to vote on whatever offer exists at the deadline…players give me the impression they’ll vote to play”

    • bcjim - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:40 PM

      If true one has to assume it will be a league friendly deal at that point.

      Fehr has WAY overplayed his hand, which pretty much consists of a off suited mix of garbage cards.

      • alexbaymac - Jan 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM

        If by saying “Fehr has WAY overplayed his hand”, you mean that he has gotten the owners to agree to things that they promised they would NEVER agree to then ‘Yes’, he has! I’m not a fan of unions in general; however, the players trusted him to get the best he could, it looks like he’s using ever trick he can…Garbage cards and all.

  4. ducksk - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Something we always new about NHL’ers, they have big balls. You have to give them some credit for holding out and risking so much. Same could be said other the owners. Whose are bigger we will see soon enuff

    • ron05342 - Jan 4, 2013 at 9:00 PM

      Big balls, big balls, what’cha gonna do?

  5. dlk75150 - Jan 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Screw all of them

  6. dlk75150 - Jan 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Screw all of then

  7. sportsfan69 - Jan 4, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Tatdue,

    What would you call the NHLPA? They hired a pet bull for their CBA negotiations. The NHLPA already has a better deal than both the NBAPA and NFLPA. Why don’t you read the book “Instigator” and listen to some of the interviews with Phil Esposito and James Boomer Gordon.

    Then, point your finger at me. Also, listen to some of Brandon Shannhan’s views and opinions in regards to this CBA debacle.

    My opinion is based on facts, along with being an experienced labor negotiator from both sides of the table. I only have over twenty years experience in labor management, along with two college degrees.

    Why don’t you offer a solution to the CBA matter? You sound like an expert.

  8. northstars17 - Jan 5, 2013 at 2:10 AM

    skatex, The season is ALREADY LOST!

    Do you not know that its going to be February 2013 in a few weeks???

    Just pray that the NHL will actually start on time in Fall! that’s what you should he worrying about at this point.

  9. sportsfan69 - Jan 5, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    The term “Mafia” is a metaphor, I don’t actually think the NHLPA (the players) are a of group criminals, but the tactics makes one to question their true intentions. Do they really want to finalize a deal? It’s a perception thing, it looks terrible.

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