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Phillips rips NHL for “dirty tricks”

Jan 4, 2013, 3:23 PM EDT

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Chris Phillips is blaming the NHL’s “dirty tricks” on the current state of negotiations between the league and NHLPA.

Phillips, the Senators’ player rep, is specifically upset with what he believes was an attempt by the NHL to sneak past changes to the part of the CBA that covers the reporting (or misreporting, as the case may be) of hockey-related revenue.

“Basically, they changed the definition, where there would be no accountability in terms of HRR accounting,” Phillips told the Ottawa Sun Friday. “So they could basically give us whatever number they wanted to.

“It’s great that we’re at 50-50 now, but 50-50 of what? That’s just ridiculous. We’re trying to get a deal done, and negotiate in good faith and they pull garbage like that. That’s not going to get anything done.”

The NHL denied any wrongdoing, and the issue has since been resolved. But clearly the players are still angry.

Frankly, if this latest dust-up weren’t so sad, it would be downright hilarious. Think about it: we’ve gotten to the point where the players are accusing the owners of duplicity on the issue of punishing owners for being duplicitous.

Couldn’t make it up.

  1. johngaltx - Jan 4, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    “Couldn’t make it up.”

    You could make it up, but nobody would believe you.

  2. comeonnowguys - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Just when I was starting to lean toward the players.

    Stop playing PR and get back in there. Both of you.

    • crosberries - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM

      So your saying your on the side that goes over something then decides to go back and change it without letting the other side know? Your right stick with the owners.

      • stakex - Jan 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        Without letting them know? Thats such a load of BS.

        The changed HRR language from the league was in the offer they gave the players LAST THURSDAY. How is that not letting them know about it? Its the NHLPAs job to go over the offer line by line. Somehow (perhaps because Fehr wanted it this way) all the people the NHLPA had going over the offer missed it until a week later… just when it looked like a deal was within reach. Sounds a bit fishy to me.

        And its not a crime for the NHL to change it in their offer either. The whole process is about give and take… and since they moved in the players direction on a lot of issues (a little bit of “give” if you will) they clearly tried to “take” a little here. The NHLPA called them on it and the issue was resolved.

        Thats how this is suppose to work… everyone getting pissed and refusing to do anything after every little rough patch is getting really old. The players need to grow the hell up and stop taking this so personal. Its a business matter, so act like it. I guess this is why, in the real business world, guys with an average IQ of 80 aren’t allowed to have a hand in the deals.

      • woodstakes - Jan 4, 2013 at 6:12 PM

        stakex that’s fine, but here’s the deal.. why are they changing something that has already been agreed upon?? That’s like the players coming back with their next offer and saying.. we want 54/46 split now… wouldn’t the owners be like.. “Wait a minute we already agreed on 50/50!”. It’s the same thing. Your right it is right there in writing but the question is “WHY?”. Why go and do this now?? Then make a statement about GM’s wanting to blow up their teams when they’re called out on it??

  3. duster1982 - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    coming from the side that has continuously showed up late to meetings, given short counteroffers, found a new thing to bargain about after one things is finally settled, and generally bad mouthed bettman and disrespected the owners who write their paycheck the whole time.

    • paperlions - Jan 4, 2013 at 6:29 PM

      You realize that it is the owners that make money off of the players talent…not the other way around, right?

      • grimlock410 - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:51 PM

        It is not nearly that simple. It really does go both ways. No player could provide the venue, cost of marketing etc without owners. In fact most hockey teams alone are not enough. Owners have to string together a NHL team a NBA team and rent out the venue.

    • superross - Jan 4, 2013 at 9:40 PM

      Easy Joey/Bloofield!

  4. bricktop02 - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    This is a shame. If they cared they would get some kind of deal done. Once again us the fans get the shaft.

  5. nach0mancandysandwich - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    I hope they both know we have no sympathy for them.

  6. kegmen7 - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    What you cant make up is that both sides were so committed to not losing money they vigorously and passionately pursued policies that lost them money.

  7. buffalomafia - Jan 4, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Bye- Bye season! Thanks to both sides being greedy!

  8. mountainmantride - Jan 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Comedy Central.

  9. jaybird22seven - Jan 4, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    The players hold all the leverage and if they don’t get everything they want, there will be no season. And possible no league moving forward. The hatred is getting bad between both sides.

  10. yvrmike - Jan 4, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    I read this comment earlier today and IT SAYS IT ALL!!!
    Wouldn’t it be great to own a North American professional sports team? You’d get to be part of a legal cartel, immune to anti-trust legislation. You don’t compete in a free market. No threat of a rival league in your sport, since you own all the arenas that taxpayers have built for you. No new teams can enter your league without paying you hundreds of millions of dollars. Teams like the Maple Leafs get to keep a monopoly on lucrative regions. You never get relegated to a lower league. You get to break contracts with your players (Burrows’ contract he signed today will be shaved considerably). And best of all, you get sweetheart tax deals. Most of the value of the NHL is created by the players and the owners basically extract economic rent from the rest of us, simply because they can afford to buy a piece of an oligopoly.They get politicians and society at large to officially endorse their teams as vital cultural institutions. But then they shut them down whenever they have an opportunity to maximize profit. “We are all Canucks”, right? Hahaha.

  11. northstars17 - Jan 4, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    northstars17 January 4, 2013, 6:06 AM PST

    I like Sellane’s optimism, but unfortunately he’s wrong. We won’t see hockey until next Fall. I’ve talked to a few very respected people in this business who’ve said it’s just not going to happen. This CBA is a lot further to being complete than what people have been lead to believe.

    Do you really think the NHL will settle the CBA dispute and start the season less than 2 weeks after what was supposed to be their biggest game of the year financially, the Winter Classic? Do you really believe the 2-3 MAJOR issues will be settled in just mere days? Let alone the other 4-5 issues that also need twists and tweaks… it’s just not going to happen.

    The NHL and NHLPA have made this interesting enough to follow, but boring enough to forget about for a while. Do you really believe its this difficult to come to an agreement, and they’re willing to lose and ENTIRE season of revenue because of it?

    They won’t officially cancel the season until the beggining of February, but everyone will know well before the. the gig is up. Remind you, the 04/05 lost season wasn’t officially cancelled until the middle of February. By then fans will only look forward to the upcoming return of hockey season, and the owners know the demand will be even higher. They know there is damage being done, but their going by history which shows increased fan support and sales after a major strike or lockout. Sorry to be the bearer of bars news but you already know this if you’ve been following this circus charade, or lack thereof should I say. But stay tuned… you might as well ride it out for one more week if you’ve been along for the ride these last 3 months!

  12. northstars17 - Jan 4, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    A deal is not going to happen this week that’s one thing I know for sure. I also know most of you naysayers will be the first to attend games when they resume next Fall. I’ll admit I’m one of them. I’m not going to let these greedy executives ruin my game of hockey. I will support my team, there is no other sport like hockey, especially live. I’ll try to watch as much free hockey as possible, but ill be attending live no doubt about it.

  13. acieu - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Another certifiable Idiot

  14. mattyo99 - Jan 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    It’s over, these guys are the laughing stock of sports, sucks it has to be my favorite sport, what a waste of time and a disgrace, all over $$$

  15. cspsrbums - Jan 4, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    The owners are at fault period it’s called a lockout. It’s not the first time they changed things. They went from 5 year CBA to a 6 year next and 8 year an finally a 10 year CBA with an 8 year opt out every time they meet something else changes on their side. All you guys want is the players to sign. Sign what?? What ever the owners want that’s Crazy. Players haven’t asked for anything they are trying to stop the owners from taking eveything. Stay strong player do t give into those clowns till your satisfied its fair. Boycott the NHL next season.

    • chc4 - Jan 4, 2013 at 11:14 PM

      Yeah you are a real genius. Hold out players and waste an entire season, maybe two because the owners are so mean. Then, when you guys are 35-40 yrs old with no real job skills or education you can declare bankruptcy b/c again, you’re all meatheads. Just like cspsrbums.

      • valoisvipers - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:37 AM

        And that’s the facts of life in the NHL

  16. acieu - Jan 4, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Ditto

  17. shoehole - Jan 5, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Same ole Donald Fehr. Same guy, different sport.

  18. pens5829 - Jan 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    No one give a sh@t about what Chris Phillips has to say. We just want hockey! Dumb@ss should keep his mouth shut because the NHL and NHLPA are losing more and mor fans each day they don’t play.

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