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NHL, union hold small group talks (Updated)

Jan 3, 2013, 6:35 PM EDT

Donald Fehr; NHLPA AP

The league and a small group of players have restarted today’s CBA negotiations, according to RDS’ Renaud Lavoie. The chosen topic is believed to be player pensions.

After several days of the two sides exchanging offers and making significant progress, the negotiations seem to have slowed today.

Instead, the biggest story has been the union’s decision to hold a new vote to give the executive board the power to file a disclaimer of interest after the union chose not to act before the previous deadline.

That news shouldn’t be taken as an indication of how the talks are going as it might simply be a sign that the NHLPA wants to keep all its options opened.

In addition to pensions, there’s still several major issues still on the table like the length of player contracts and the salary cap for 2013-14. ESPN and TSN’s Pierre LeBrun estimated that 7-8 issues remain unresolved.

If the union and NHL can’t reach an agreement in the next week or so, then the season might be lost.

Update: Talks ended after roughly two hours. Chicago Blackhawks forward Jamal Mayers isn’t sure if there will be any additional negotiations tonight, according to Sportsnet’s Ian Mendes. It’s not clear if any progress was made.

  1. tbbolts91 - Jan 3, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    get it done guys! i wanna see some hockey, soon!

    • millertime30 - Jan 3, 2013 at 10:07 PM

      WJC has been excellent

  2. bigbadbruins77 - Jan 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    7-8 issues remain? Ouch I thought it was down to two issues :( The “keeping options open” sounds positive, but the whole player pension thing sounds crazy. Why do players making all this money need a pension? You can’t tell me they can’t save enough money to live off from during their career?!? Maybe with injuries and a shortened career there should be something, but then don’t they go on the LTIR and still get paid like Marc Savard?

    • purp1234 - Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM

      ESPN is reporting 2-3 essential issues remain…to an observer they seem minor…cap limits/2nd year cap limits (60 million v. 65 million), contract length (5 years v. 7 years) and pension contributions.

      Really…if that’s it, and they have a mediator in there…if his name was Solomon this would be done now. If it’s not as “simple” as splitting the differences, a pox on both houses.

      • bigbadbruins77 - Jan 3, 2013 at 9:38 PM

        Thanks good info

    • hockeyflow33 - Jan 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM

      There’s just so much inane “logic” in your post I don’t know where to start.

      They don’t need a pension but it’s a negotiating anchor; it’s the players association, why would they give this up?

      So you think there should be a cap on how much money a player should make during their career? If guys are hurt during their playing time, why should they not be allowed to receive what they have earned? An insurance policy covers a majority of the contract.

  3. sportsfan69 - Jan 3, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Good deal!

  4. jimw81 - Jan 3, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    if they have a agreement on core issues like cap, hrr, make whole etc, the lockout ends. the pension issue goes beyond these players, it involves players that played the game in the 60′s,70′s and 80′s.

  5. jaredo10 - Jan 3, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    you guyes invested so much time and money ( new podium) for nothingggg

  6. steelers88 - Jan 3, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    Season canceled

  7. capsrockva - Jan 3, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Just find a way to get the deal done please for our sake

  8. steelerhypocrite - Jan 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    Ah Ha…idiot NHL players…this is what happens when you get in bed with a piece of sh** like Donald Fehr…this sport will be ruined for decades.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jan 3, 2013 at 9:38 PM

      Care to explain? I’m not quite sure what you’re talking about.

  9. fortwaynekomets - Jan 4, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    is the season set to start???

    otherwise, all I hear is noise… or should I say text…

    DROP THE PUCKS you little schmucks!

  10. ron05342 - Jan 4, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    In regard to pensions…I am not sure why this would even be part of a CBA. Pension plans, by their very nature, are administered in “perpetuity” and definitely should not have limits placed upon them, as in the case of termed-out CBAs. In other words, they should definitely be “outside” of the CBA and administered by an independent party without league or player affiliations.

    It is a sticking point, and rightfully so. Owners are concerned on why they would be liable beyond a CBA’s term. And, of course, they wouldn’t be…if a pension plan could be allowed to be part of a CBA. I would imagine that a state’s authority in this matter (or province, as in Canada) would be interested in any “term limits” placed on such a pension plan.

  11. macjacmccoy - Jan 4, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Wait Did I just read that right? Did I just read that the length of player contracts hasnt been agreed upon yet? So all the jokes about player contracts being “the hill they are gonna die on” not being true may actually be true?
    Wow thank god no one pointed that out or the people that have being using that statement as a crutch to prop up their arguments are going to look really stupid .

  12. xjokerz - Jan 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Cancel this trash

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