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CBA update: NHLPA makes another propsal, meetings to resume tonight

Jan 2, 2013, 3:54 PM EDT

Donald Fehr

Make it four.

That was the story after the NHLPA exited its meeting with the NHL on Wednesday, as union boss Donald Fehr told reporters the PA made yet another CBA proposal.

For those keeping track, that is the fourth proposal exchanged between the league and players’ union over the last six days.

Some additional CBA notes to pass your way:

TSN’s Darren Dreger reports meetings will resume tonight around 8 p.m. ET, presumably after the NHL has gone over the PA’s latest propsal.

– Dreger also notes player pensions remain an issue. “PA wanted NHL to share pension cost,” he tweeted. “Perhaps bigger issue: team’s ongoing liability to pay the pension after CBA expires.”

Fehr wouldn’t comment on the possibility of the union filing a disclaimer. The NHLPA has until midnight ET to decide.

– The NHLPA’s executive committee is scheduled to have a conference call later today to discuss the disclaimer issue.

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  1. hockeyflow33 - Jan 2, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    It’s nice to finally see negotiations with people not acting like babies and leaving when they don’t like what has been said.

  2. killerpgh - Jan 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    As long as they are still bouncing offers off each other it is a good sign. It’s when one side walks away we have to worry.

  3. doubles22 - Jan 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    If the NHLPA files their Disclaimer of Interest, I will hereby file my Claim of Disinterest.

    • purp1234 - Jan 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM

      If the union has to file the disclaimer, can it continue to negotiate on behalf of the players until there is a hearing or does it immediately end the NHLPA’s right to negotiate? If the latter, this has to be the reason why the owners started negotations up again at this point…to take away leverage from the players who will feel a need to get something done by the midnight filing deadline.

      • woodstakes - Jan 2, 2013 at 6:28 PM

        The PA could file and they could still sign a deal in the time between the filing and the court hearing. But, one would have to assume if the PA decided to go that route that the are VERY unhappy with the way things are going right now. With the open exchanges going on it seems they are on the right track at this point. However, that Jan 2 date is NOT etched in stone.. the players can re-vote again at anytime to give the Executive Board the same power again at a later date. So as we’ve seen it took about 3 days to get it done the first time around, my guess would be that if these negotiations breakdown and the Jan 2 date has passed they would just simply vote again and then promptly file it in court. At least that’s my understanding… perhaps someone here could state it more clearly.

      • purp1234 - Jan 2, 2013 at 8:53 PM

        Thanks for the clarification woodstakes. Back to NHL 2013 for the time being…

  4. jaredo10 - Jan 2, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    All sounds good. Hope tonights the night.

  5. shotzongoal - Jan 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Isn’t the deadline to file a disclaimer today? I think after midnight they would need another ballot.

  6. lordfletcher - Jan 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    I don’t would to sound overly optimistic but I don’t see how these “negotiations” collapse at this point. Both sides realize and probably planned for this to happen all along, well at least the owners were okay with a shortened season but things seem to be positive, mature, realistic, scheduled.

    Hoping to hear that the season is a go soon :)

    • tatdue - Jan 2, 2013 at 9:38 PM

      I don’t think either side actually planned for this crap to go on this long. At this point both sides have lost a fair share of cash let alone the beating the brand has taken. I just think that the way that the NHL started this negotiation things had to go down to the wire in order for the players to get any leverage at all. Now that they’re both in real danger of losing big money the real negotiating has begun……

  7. inhokewetrust - Jan 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Hmmmmmm a 20 team postseason….is this the “LEAFS RULE”….to ensure the Leafs and NHL makes money…

    • therealjr - Jan 2, 2013 at 5:08 PM

      More likely a way to placate them for all the revenues they’ll have to share.

    • purp1234 - Jan 2, 2013 at 5:46 PM

      If they start the season on January 19 or so, this is right around the time that the Islanders are essentially eliminated from post season consideration anyway so I don’t know that it matters that much. If they go to a 30 team post season I’m thinking we got a shot!

  8. Buford T Justice - Jan 2, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    so tired of hearing all these conspiracy theories that they “planned this all along” you really gotta be a moron to dream up that crap and believe it

    • woodstakes - Jan 2, 2013 at 6:41 PM

      Wow! I actually agree (somewhat) with one of your statements finally Buford… While I DO think Bettman saw how well the shortened season for the NBA worked that he did have that idea in his head and probably had a plan for it.. I DO NOT believe all this garbage about this elaborate scheme where Bettman and Fehr were actually actively plotting this scheme to just draw things out until a Jan 19 date as if it were preconceived. It seems if anyone on here says anything to the contrary of that belief they are called ‘sheep’, meanwhile most of those people calling others that are a small group of people it happens all the same.

      Personally I think the owners just simply thought they would have deal done in time for the WC and AG and completely underestimated how polarized the players were and what a polarizing effect that first ‘shot at the ego’ offer had. I think Bettman knew that Fehr was going to be formidable but I don’t think they thought that the players were going to be hardnosed enough to actually be willing to give up a whole season if they had to in order to make the point that lockouts do not equal you getting everything you demand.

      • tatdue - Jan 2, 2013 at 9:56 PM

        It’s nice to see some intelligent commenting….for a while I was thinking everyone on this site was a little bonkers (no offence to anyone in particular lol) Let’s just hope they get this crap settled away so we can get the puck dropped!

  9. Buford T Justice - Jan 2, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Too many lost wages, staffs that are out of work, 4th line on the AHL-NHL bubble players not receiving their checks , I just cant buy into any scheme theory that some have is all really.

    • Buford T Justice - Jan 2, 2013 at 7:09 PM

      Plus the fans are mad right now , watch how lousy attendance is going to be all over these rinks IF they get a deal done soon.

  10. inhokewetrust - Jan 2, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Hey mr justice…
    Bad attendance in all hockey markets….clearly your not from Canada…

    • Buford T Justice - Jan 2, 2013 at 8:01 PM

      No sir I’m not from Canada but the long term survival of the Sport bears more of an importance in the US Markets these days from a financial standpoint.

  11. rpiotr01 - Jan 2, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    And this reasoned, common sense back and forth wasn’t happening in September because…?

  12. sportsfan69 - Jan 2, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    NHL and NHLPA getting together at 9 PM.

  13. sportsfan69 - Jan 2, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    Tomorrow’s USA and Canada should be a great game, possibly a classic. Let’s make a prediction, who’s going to win the game? Thumbs Up if Canada is going to win, Thumbs down if the USA is going to win.

  14. inhokewetrust - Jan 2, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Mr.justice the league made 200 million…the leafs made 150 mil….tell me again why the league needs bottom feeders like Phoenix….Florida..Columbus….as long as American city’s like Detroit,NY,Buffalo

    • Buford T Justice - Jan 2, 2013 at 9:37 PM

      say for example you eliminated every US team and only played the NHL in Canada….
      translation.. then there would not be any NHL

  15. jtrain1966 - Jan 2, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    I know to some of you this may sound stupid but, I couldn’t think of what pay-per view event it was but, go to YouTube & type in Greatest Promos Of All Time : Jake “The Snake” Roberts Wrestle Mania VI ! I think it suits the situation the NHL, & NHLPA are putting fans, consession workers, & anyone else affected by the lockout . Sorry, I’m not technologically inclined to post it here !

  16. sportsfan69 - Jan 2, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    Here you go.

    Appropriate.

    • jtrain1966 - Jan 2, 2013 at 11:36 PM

      Thank You ! Sorry I couldn’t do it . Chalk it up to ineptitude !

    • jtrain1966 - Jan 6, 2013 at 7:25 AM

      I wonder if they caught wind of this video, watched it, & got what I was meaning by this being a metaphor for the lockout ?

  17. Buford T Justice - Jan 3, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Sportsfan69>>>blomfeld>>>idforjoey

    • sportsfan69 - Jan 3, 2013 at 3:37 PM

      BTJ, get a life. Why don’t you talk about hockey?

      Let’s Go USA!!!!! Let’s Go USA!!!! Gold medal baby! Let’s do it.

      • Buford T Justice - Jan 3, 2013 at 5:03 PM

        I do talk hockey, just not with the likes of you Joey.

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