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PHT Morning Skate: Did Bobby Orr mastermind “goon hockey”?

Dec 30, 2012, 9:00 AM EDT

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  1. somekat - Dec 30, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Of course it was the Bruins that started the “arms race” of the 70’s. Of course that is never going to be the media narrative, because the “Broad street Bullies” fit so well with the stereotype they’ve dug for Philly fans.

    Also, god forbid one of the original six were responsible for the era that hockey “purists” consider a black eye on the sport. Although they may want to reconsider that, as the last few years have been a much darker time for the sport

    • hockeyflow33 - Dec 30, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      I’ve never met an actual hockey player or fan who dislikes this era

      • nothanksimdriving123 - Dec 30, 2012 at 7:11 PM

        flow, no, we’ve not met beyond this forum, but as one old enough to remember Bobby Orr as a Junior, I’m not a big fan of the last season or two. Too many of the 2012 playoff games were painfully dull affairs filled with tussling in the corners, blocked shots and little or no sustained action where goalies had to make great saves. In the Finals, there was not a single lead change in any of the games. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  2. id4joey - Dec 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Goon hockey? One can look at this as team unity for that era. Going into battles knowing teammates were there for each other. This togetherness is part of the chemistry needed to win the cup. That aspect hasn’t changed, and today players lookout for each other in a different way.

  3. blomfeld - Dec 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM


    The idiot who wrote this article (Joe Pelletier) is obviously too young and too stupid to properly interpret what Sanderson (The Turk) was saying … and that’s a shame. For all of you youngsters out there, back in the day there was a “code” which anyone worth their salt would abide by. And if they didn’t, then they were “dealt with” quickly and ruthlessly. A fight was a fight with two willing and able combatants. There was none of this “swarming” or “faking injury” or “piling on” crap like today. Now Bobby Orr was truly a unique individual, in that not only was he the best player in the game, he as well would fight his own battles and he could “take or give” hits with the best of them. People like Crosby or Malkin aren’t even in the same league when compared to the pure “red bloodedness” of a guy like Orr! And that’s not their fault, as they’re simply products of today’s “different” era where the same rules no longer apply. So the Big Bad Bruins perhaps ? But every other team was tough then too and they all looked out for each other accordingly (the Plager brothers in St Louis, John Ferguson in Montreal, Dan Maloney in LA, etc). Truth be known, it was the Flyers who started this cowardly “swarming” crap back in 73-74 … and that’s the main reason why I never liked them.

    PS Youngsters: Another example of Orr’s red-bloodedness was how he behaved after scoring a goal. Unlike the circus routine which you’re all taught to perform after a goal, Bobby Orr would first skate through an entire team scoring a beautiful goal and then simply line up for the face-off, completely void of any adulation or self-serving celebration. That’s how a real man behaves! There are a few today who still emulate this type “proper” red-blooded behavior, with the Sedin brothers immediately coming to mind.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Dec 30, 2012 at 7:18 PM

      Worth noting that in the Old Six era, most players fought from time to time. Teams played one another 14 times a season and grew to seriously dislike one another. And with annual salaries far less than stars now make per game, guys really needed even the paltry playoff bonuses of $500+/-, so anyone standing in their way was not to be treated kindly.

      • blomfeld - Dec 31, 2012 at 3:40 AM

        good point friend, as that was so true eh?

    • gallyhatch - Dec 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

      Blomfeld, for the first time in my life, I actually wanted to read one of your comments, but I only made it a third of the way through. My head was spinning from your over-use of quotation marks.

      I had to stop reading, it’s ridiculous.

      • blomfeld - Dec 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM

        that’s a shame friend, as you’ve then just missed out on some “timeless” words of truth from yours truly :)

  4. gvbulldogs - Dec 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM


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