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Don Cherry changes mind, thinks season will be saved

Dec 23, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT

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If you’re looking for an optimistic view on the future of the CBA negotiations, Don Cherry hasn’t been your man lately.

Roughly two months ago, Cherry said, “If I’m betting, I’d say no [NHL season].”

He seemed to reinforce that sentiment when he suggested that the dramatic collapse of talks on Dec. 6 solidified the hard-line owners’ stance.

“Looks like I will see a lot more of Marlies, Junior and Minor Midget games this year,” Cherry said in summary at the time.

Now, after weeks of little to no communication between the two sides, Cherry seems much more optimistic.

“Look to the middle of January for the game to return!” Cherry tweeted.

So what changed his mind? Ultimately, he doesn’t think that anyone “in their right mind would kill the goose that lays these golden eggs.”

He went on to assert that a shortened NHL season will be “terrific.”

“Those people who say it won’t be good hockey because it’s only half a season don’t know what they’re talking about,” he said.

“Don’t you remember the last time it was half a season and New Jersey won the Cup? It was a sprint not a marathon. Play within their own conference. Lots of action. The guys know every game is important. Won’t have the half season blahs.”

The CBA talks won’t resume before Christmas, but they might restart shortly after that.

  1. husky2score - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    Well that just means so much right now!

  2. mustbechris - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    “Ultimately, he doesn’t think that anyone “in their right mind would kill the goose that lays these golden eggs.””
    ___________________________________________________________________
    Considering that nobody involved in the negotiations is “in their right mind,” it’s safe to say the season is done.

  3. dinklespiel - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Maybe every season should be a Half-ass season if it’s
    going to be that exciting.

    And by what magic is this going to be achieved if both sides are not talking?

  4. bricktop02 - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    I think Don has had to much eggnog. I hope they have a half season but don’t think it’s going to happen. Happy holidays.

  5. tfaltin - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Don just read up on Joeys “inside” information and got confused. He must be a new follower of PHT.

    • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:11 AM

      In all seriousness. I’ve always believed that there would be a season, and for sure I thought it would start much sooner than Jan. If the owners drastically cave in to the demands of the players, then I will have to admit that blomfeld’s theory of a conspiracy was correct. If I am guilty of anything it was being 100% certain that the players were smart enough to cut their loses. Anyway! The “lockout cliff” is looming, and we’ll soon see who the real hockey fans are. If fortunate enough I for one will be at the first game when hockey resumes, regardless of the year.

      • tatdue - Dec 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM

        There you go again trying to set yourself up as a wiener, I mean winner…..Tell me this Valoisjoeybfeld69….How exactly does the owners not demanding as much from the players to save a shortened season (in reality that’s what it really would be) equate to you being right about the owners and the Fehr brothers, all the GMs, coaches, players (at least all PA representatives), the media, all sponsors, and all broadcasters (and I’m sure I’m missing a few thousand or so more people) all got together and created this giant ruse! Which is that the lock out is actually fake and it was only done to delay the start of the hockey season because the southern teams don’t make enough money during the first few months of operation…Not that it was ever considered a real possibility but what do you imagine the cost would be to pull off a charade like this just in man power alone? Let alone risking the integrity of everybody involved, the value of all franchises, the value of the NHL brand and even the possibility of the demise of the sport!!!…..I say how about you grow up now Valoisjoeybfeld69 and just come to the realization that this lock out and negotiation was 100% real period. Your “heads I win, tails you lose ploy” is for children to play….If the owners lighten up on their demands then the players bonus and they have shown the owners that if they want to try to railroad them again that it will very much cost them….If the players give up a little more, then the owners get a bonus but they have still learned the same lesson!

        Everybody knew this lock out was going to happen simply because of Bettman and the owners past record with this crap and if the players didn’t make a stand we would all be enduring these bs lock outs every time a new CBA is needed!!!!!!

        Hopefully after this one Bettman finally gets retired? :)

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:24 PM

        Well! Roll call!

        Blomfeld!

        Blomfeld: Here!

        Valoisvipers!

        Valoisvipers: Here!

        Sportsfan69!

        Sportfan69: Here!

        id4joey!

        Id4joey: Here!

        Blomfeld, what say you?

        Blomfeld: JFK, 911, NHL lockout consipiracy.

        Valoisvipers, what say you?

        Valoisvipers: hear, hear. Comrade blomfeld is correct.

        Spoerstfan69, what say you?

        Sportsfan69: agreed! All conspiracies.

        id4joey, what say you?

        id4joeg: indeed all conspiracies. Bergie rules. Done deal!

        There you have it folks. All these alter egos are indeed present and in sync.

      • blomfeld - Dec 23, 2012 at 4:19 PM

        Tatdue – Maybe then “conspiracy” isn’t the correct term for what I’m suggesting? Let’s call it instead a “business plan” or an “endeavor” … or perhaps even just a “mind set”. The bottom line is that I believe there is an underlying agenda at play here, being driven by Bettman “in concert” with a number of the key power owners. And no, it likely doesn’t include hundreds or thousands of co-conspirators sworn to silence and fiendishly working behind the scenes. All it would take is for Bettman and a handful of others to have simply agreed beforehand that they push this thing to a predetermined start date “come hell or high water” for whatever reason(s) they deem that necessary. You’re obviously an adult and so you know how life works. When Michael Eisner was CEO at Disney, was it a conspiracy if he had an idea set in his mind on a project and then proceeded to see it through to completion, despite all the naysayers and doubters around him ? … of course not. Was Christopher Columbus a conspirator when he set sail for the new world because he believed that the world was round, while the Church and everyone around him told him he was absolutely nuts ? … of course not.

        Look, I don’t know anymore about what’s really going on than you. I have no idea what the goals and aims of such a plan would be and I have no clue if such a plan would even make sense from a business point of view? Knock off half the season? … anger everyone involved or associated with the game? … risk irreparable damage to the brand itself? On the surface that sounds like sheer madness. And yet that’s what I truly suspect is playing out here? Don’t ask me why, as I’m just a humble fan of the game. But I do genuinely sense that we’re all being taken for fools here.

        ps: anyway, everyone should always keep it fun and lighthearted here at PHT eh ? … so merry Christmas to you and all the best for 2013 ! … Blomfeld :)

  6. id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    For once I agree with this Cherry. BTW, his source is Bergeron. “Done deal!”

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/Cherry+confident+will+return+compares+lockout+season/7737910/story.html

  7. starsfan11 - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Just shut up about Bergeron already,Joey. Not one single person in the media has even mentioned this. Who cares what an ex coach out of the game for 20 yrs thinks

    • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM

      That’s funny. Obviously you care because you are posting under an article which features an ex coach who has been out of the game for 30 years. Hahahahahaha

      • valoisvipers - Dec 24, 2012 at 12:45 AM

        LOL Joey It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
        So many trolls and so little time.

      • id4joey - Dec 24, 2012 at 6:46 AM

        valoisvipers, Sunday is a day of rest watching NFL games. Yesterday was in the words of a U2 song “Sunday, Bloody Sunday”. I need a day at the office today to relax a little before Christmas. Lol!

      • valoisvipers - Dec 24, 2012 at 9:48 AM

        Joey Enjoy your troll free day of watching pigskin. We are doing the turkey thing today so I will be a busy boy cooking. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

      • id4joey - Dec 24, 2012 at 5:09 PM

        Thanks, valoisvipers. You have a good one my friend. All the best to you and yours.

  8. manchestermiracle - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Is Cherry planning a run at a political office? ‘Cause he already has the flip-flop part down….

  9. starsfan11 - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Just posting because tired of your bs like everyone else except for your buddy blomfeld

    • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:43 AM

      Yeah! Right! And I’m valoisvipers. “Done deal!” Buddy! Now move on.

      • valoisvipers - Dec 24, 2012 at 12:48 AM

        No I’m Valoisvipers or am I sportsfan69. Dam JOEY, JOEY, Who am I again,I forgot.

      • id4joey - Dec 24, 2012 at 5:18 PM

        You’re a French Canadian named Pierrot. Lol. Pierrot Valois! That’s it tabarouette de caline.

  10. thehungariancrippler - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Of greater importance is the fact that no one cares if the NHL plays this year…those people across the border in America Jr. don’t count.

    • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:54 AM

      “No one cares” wow! A lot of media hype about something no one cares about. You must live in America Sr. where ever that is chasing your cousins with a shot gun. Oh! Right! You use a U.S. grade tank and a bazooka. I forgot how much more sophisticated America Sr. is as compared to America Jr. Now get your chew and go looking for your cousins. Lol!

  11. buffalomafia - Dec 23, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Stick a fork into the season! Owners are trying to break the union!

    • falstaffsmind - Dec 23, 2012 at 12:32 PM

      I am becoming increasingly convinced that the owners are also trying to break the marginal teams.

  12. id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Hiring agencies specializing in anti-union practices has been an option available to employers from the bloody strikes of the last quarter of the nineteenth century, until today.

    Employers began to demand more subtle and sophisticated union busting tactics, and so the field called “preventive labor relations” was born. The new practitioners were armed with degrees in industrial psychology, management, and labor law. Can you say Proskauer Rose?

    From 1960 to 2000 the percentage of workers in the United States belonging to a labor union fell from 30% to 13%, almost all of that decline being in the private sector.[40] This is despite an increase in workers expressing an interest in belonging to unions since the early 1980s.

    Wikipedia.

    • valoisvipers - Dec 24, 2012 at 12:51 AM

      Joey Is Proskauer Rose partners with Dowe Screwem and Howe?

      • id4joey - Dec 24, 2012 at 8:05 AM

        Lol! They were probably born from “blood relation”. Check out Shauna Screwem. Senior Litigator.

        http://www.deweyscrewemandhowe.com/

  13. antkowiak666 - Dec 23, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    if there is a season,winning the cup in a shortened season is a joke.it should have an asterisk put beside the winner.

    • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

      So, you just throw out an opinion without supporting it with thought or reason. Kids!

      • zetaone - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM

        Hello Mr. Pot. Meet Mr. Kettle.

      • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM

        Well! Hello zetaone. What brings you here today? Anything brilliant to say about the soon to be announced end of the lockout?

      • antkowiak666 - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:51 PM

        why should you get Lord Stanley playing half a season,when others earned it through a full season!?

      • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 4:05 PM

        Wait a minute. First you wrote there should be an asterisk put beside the winner now you’re asking why they should get the cup. Which one is it? Asterisk or no asterisk or cup or no cup?

  14. blkhwk21 - Dec 23, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Cherry is a idiot. That’s my shot, but I do believe we will have hockey after the new year. And no to the asterisk and yes to awarding the cup.

    • blomfeld - Dec 23, 2012 at 4:28 PM

      I also don’t like the idea of the Cup being awarded during a shortened season. Much of my earlier prognosis for play to resume by Thanksgiving was admittedly based on “wishful thinking” as 65-70 games somehow seems a lot more palatable than just 48. But now as the beggars which we’ve become, it looks like we won’t have much of a choice, eh ?

      • valoisvipers - Dec 24, 2012 at 12:57 AM

        Ah but it would be 48 meaningful games my friend Blomfeld.Intensity from game one and onwards. Your Kings started slow last year and will not be able to do that this season but for now they are still the reining Stanley Cup Champions.

  15. bleedingteal4life - Dec 23, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    I always thought of the playoffs as a “sprint.” So now they are sprinting to a sprint.

  16. macjacmccoy - Dec 23, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Yea I dont agree with people who think half a season would make the season mean less. The NHL season counts for less then any other major sports league. They allow more then half the league into the playoffs with about 3 to 4 teams in each conference that are so bad that they rarely ever make a playoff push. Which leaves about 2 teams that are pretenders each year that make it seem like they might make the playoffs but never do. Leaving around 2 teams that really have a chance to win a bottom seed. So really its about 10 legitimate teams fighting for 8 spots. And the difference between the top 5 to 6 playoff teams and the bottom 2-3 playoff teams is so big that really those 5-6 teams fighting for those last few playoff spots are really only doing it for bragging rights to say they made the playoffs. Their not gonna win the cup. So dont tell me 40 some games isnt enough time to figure out who deserves to make the playoffs. If you gave Hockey fans the chance to pick 10 teams from each conference that had a chance to make the playoffs before each seasons the majority of them would have included the 8 teams that actually made the playoffs that year in their 10 picks.

    • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:47 PM

      I concur. Rarely are the two first place teams of each conferences in the Stanley Cup final. The first half of the season is for tuning up the system, then they turn it up a notch for the second half, and turn another few notches when the playoffs start. This 48 game season is going to be a mad dash to the finish line. Each shift, period, mad game will be crucial. It’s going to be the best 48 games we may ever see. Never has the game been this fast before the 05/06 season. It’s impossible for a team to perform at its peak for 82 games. I remember one NHL coaching telling how he can’t be pushing his team to open full throttle for 82 games.

      Case and point; After the Islanders’ regular season dominance and playoff disappointment in 1979, Arbour decided that he would no longer concern himself too greatly with his team’s finish in the regular season. Instead, he focused his team’s energy on how they would perform in the playoffs. In 1980, the Islanders dropped below the 100-point mark for the first time in five years, earning only 91 points. However, they finally broke through and won the Stanley Cup.

    • id4joey - Dec 23, 2012 at 11:48 PM

      I concur. Rarely are the two first place teams of each conferences in the Stanley Cup final. The first half of the season is for tuning up the system, then they turn it up a notch for the second half, and turn another few notches when the playoffs start. This 48 game season is going to be a mad dash to the finish line. Each shift, period, mad game will be crucial. It’s going to be the best 48 games we may ever see. Never has the game been this fast before the 05/06 season. It’s impossible for a team to perform at its peak for 82 games. I remember one NHL coach telling me how he can’t be pushing his team to be at full throttle for 82 games.

      Case and point; After the Islanders’ regular season dominance and playoff disappointment in 1979, Arbour decided that he would no longer concern himself too greatly with his team’s finish in the regular season. Instead, he focused his team’s energy on how they would perform in the playoffs. In 1980, the Islanders dropped below the 100-point mark for the first time in five years, earning only 91 points. However, they finally broke through and won the Stanley Cup.

  17. pwilson264 - Dec 24, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    must be the sunglasses half season ha should not be one in the first place

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