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Jason Chimera has about had it with Gary Bettman

Dec 22, 2012, 11:30 AM EST

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We haven’t heard a lot of direct sniping at NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman from any of the players in a while. Capitals forward Jason Chimera made sure to change that when he opened up to CSNWashington.com’s Chuck Gormley.

In a frustrated rant about how poorly CBA negotiations have gone, Chimera wondered aloud about what Bettman’s end-game is here.

“He seems to be bent on ruining the game. If that’s what he’s out to do he’s sure doing a good job of it,” Chimera said. “It’s disappointing. We’re willing to get a deal done and try to sit down and talk with no pre-conditions and they don’t want to talk… We want to sit down and they don’t want to meet at this point.”

On top of all that, Chimera believes the league is out to bury Donald Fehr.

“For whatever reason, they’re bent on making Don Fehr the big enemy. I don’t know if that’s Gary Bettman’s doing. I don’t know if he feels intimidated that he’s kind of met his match maybe because [Fehr] is as smart a guy as he is.

“I don’t know if he’s just [ticked] off and he has a personal vendetta against him. If you have a personal vendetta you’re ruining a lot of people’s lives and not just us.”

This kind of talk at this point in the process does nothing but distract from reaching the finish line. That said, with the players overwhelmingly supporting a move to disclaim interest, the end game is upon us one way or another. Some might call it, “put up or shut up” time.

  1. husky2score - Dec 22, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Agreed. We have all had it with Bettman

  2. acieu - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Agreed, we have all had it wit Fehr.

    • crosberries - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM

      Your right show your support for the people who locked The players out so there will be no season and they can continue to think they are right by not having negotiations.

      • jrmehle - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM

        Or show your support for the people who refused to step to the table until late August. At this point there is plenty of blame to throw around at both sides.

      • acieu - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:11 PM

        Your right show your supprt for the dumb players who refuse to make a deal so there will be no season and they can continue to think the inmates should run the facility.

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:31 PM

        cros & acieu: YOU’RE all wet, because YOUR atrocious grammar makes YOUR posts unreadable. YOU’RE due for remedial English class.

      • shotzongoal - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:46 PM

        I don’t know manchestermiracle I thought what they said was concise and to the point.

      • acieu - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:48 PM

        Not bad for a guy whose native language is French as it drives you Anglos wild.

      • blomfeld - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:59 PM

        MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! :)

        get your “FEHR LOVES HOCKEY” t-shirts and more at …

        http://www.nhlhockeyplayersareaverybadlyabusedsegmentofoursociety.com

        we also have the following excellent stocking-tee’s for the holidays …

        - FROM KHL WITH LOVE !

        - ME MAKE SCORE GOALS !

        - ME WANT MORE FERRARI CARS !

        - ME WATCH OUT FOR OPEN MAN HOLES !

        - PARISE & SUTER ARE WORTH MORE THAN THREE NHL FRANCHISES !

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:11 PM

        shotz: I’ve seen a point go over someone’s head before, but never by miles.
        You’re: A contraction of “you are.” As in, you’re an idiot.
        Your: Possessive pronoun. As in, your poor grammar.

        I made no comment whatsoever regarding their opinions, my riposte was entirely about their hacking of the language. The point of any argument is dulled by a lack of grammatical chops. If you don’t know the difference between two completely different words, why should I attach any significance to the point you are trying to make?

      • blomfeld - Dec 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM

        The Bastardization of the Written Word …

        Manchestermiracle – Unless someone is speaking in a blatantly “hostile or hurtful” tone, then I refrain from taking issue with their grammar. You have no idea about who or what they are ? … their background or access to education ? … whether or not English is even their mother tongue ? If this was a German or Swedish website, then trust me, I’d be torn literally to shreds by the grammar police !

        No, what upsets me is the “bastardization” of the English language which is being perpetrated today by the Techno “fake urgency” Complex. In this idiotic rush to say ever “more” and more often, we’re actually saying “less” and destroying the written and spoken word in the process. LMAO, LOL and URgr8 are far greater threats to the English language than someone who isn’t using proper contraction. The bottom line is that I applaud anyone who takes the time to type a proper message or remark here as opposed to using some stupid “new-age” jibberish. And that’s so regardless of any unintended grammatical errors.

        ps: by the way, this language bastardization is a worldwide phenomena … you should go and ask the French in France what they think about it !

      • shotzongoal - Dec 22, 2012 at 11:27 PM

        manchestermiracle: One can grasp the significance of someone’s position without ridiculing their misuse of grammar. If patronizing someone makes you feel superior, then I apologize for my initial comment. However, if correcting grammar is paramount to the opinion of others, even if not grammatically correct, then perhaps a sports forum is not your best alternative.

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

        Actually, shotz, my original post was simply a parody to point out their laziness. Your comment that you thought what they said was “concise” obviously missed the point entirely and now you want to escalate what is still nothing but pointing out lazy writing. Sports blog or not, if you can’t write above a fourth-grade level you’ll likely, and rightly, get called out.

        You’ve obviously taken some light criticism (that wasn’t even originally directed at you) much too seriously and then went and got butt-hurt when I had the temerity to mention that you had missed the (pretty obvious) point I was trying to make.

        Even acieu (an original target) just shrugged off my criticism, which is his right. I’m sorry you think pointing out a common communication mistake is somehow patronizing, but poor communication seems to be at the heart of this hockey lockout. If we can’t communicate accurately and precisely on something as mundane and relatively unimportant as a hockey blog then what is the point in trying to communicate at all?

      • shotzongoal - Dec 23, 2012 at 2:58 PM

        manchestermiracle,

        You may be assured that your point was not lost. Conversely, it was more the rashness to suggest remedial education to someone of which you know so little that resulted in my initial comment. It is your assumption that I am escalating when in fact; I am as you are, stating an opinion. In this environment, specifically a message board or sports blog, an individual who moves off topic to criticize or otherwise correct another posting grammar is generally referred to as a “troll’. Understand, there are no portentous thoughts of this designation directed toward you or your actions. I know nothing about your idiosyncrasies that would lead me to label you as such.

        Perhaps one of my idiosyncrasies or quirks is the need to give someone the benefit of the doubt and ignore their mistakes, especially in the use of the colloquial written word. I would rather try to understand their point then assume it is my function to correct them in a public forum. That to me is a bit presumptuous. For this shortcoming I again apologize. Also your assumption that I was “butt hurt”, whatever that means, is erroneous as my butt is just fine (no, I did not miss this by a mile).

        I do not believe that the stalled negotiations are greatly due to poor communication; although lawyers can be quite verbose. I sense it is more a question of selective hearing that has hindered the current process. Finally, as banal as it may sound, “communication is the beginning of understanding”. And that Sir or Madam is the point of communication. May I offer my wishes to you and yours for a happy and healthy Holiday Season.

  3. wethog66 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Jason,

    I wish you would just shut the **** up.

    Sincerely,
    A Caps fan

  4. sportsfan69 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    To NHLPA,

    The NHL Owners made the ast CBA counter proposal concession (Make Whole Provision-300 million). It’s YOUR turn. It’s called negotiations. Please STOP placating the NHL fans with the misdirection comments towards Mr. Bettman. As a fan, it insulting and repulsive. It’s time for action now.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:56 PM

      The PA entered this thing knowing they were getting busted down to a 50-50 revenue split, they got boned during the last lockout, how much more do you want them to give up?

      • bcjim - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:56 PM

        If the reports are true that 3 teams account for >80% of the profits, then a lot more. The economics are out of whack.

        And sure, they could have some revenue sharing, but The Rags and Leafs cant support the whole league, how is that fair to them?

        Salaries (expenses in general) need to be set at a point where all or most of the teams can make a reasonable profit.

        The well is dry when it comes to getting more revenue from fans. Beers cant really get more expensive. Salaries need a major cutting. Just the way it is.

        Owners would not be going this far down this road if there weren’t real problems.

      • acieu - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:13 PM

        Everything needed to make the entire league viable or give up 30-40 players spots per organization for your members x five or six teams.

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:34 PM

        bcjim: The owners gave out those contracts. Are you saying they can’t read a balance sheet and figure out what they can afford to pay? More likely they’ve found that getting into a pissing contest with each other in order to secure certain players has caused their “business model” to go up in smoke. Solution? As always with management, blame it on the employees because, after all, you’re the owner, you must be the smartest guy in the room.

      • stratomaticfan - Dec 22, 2012 at 5:35 PM

        Of course the economics are out of whack. If the Owners didn’t insist on keeping franchises in such hockey-poor markets such as Florida (both), Carolina, and Phoenix, as well as trying to keep 3 teams in the NYC Tri-State area (plus Buffalo, if you wish), then maybe they wouldn’t have such a big disparity at the bottom of the food chain, either. The Owners want the worst drawing franchises to make money and take it out of the players’ pockets. Maybe if they moved 4 or 5 franchises to Canada and/or the Northern US where there is genuine passion for the sport, then they could all be happy.

    • crosberries - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:57 PM

      Then what was the 50/50 drop from last year from the players??? Heaven forbid they should get the contracts the owners and players agreed to play and sign. Yet if a player would hold out while he wants a new contract it’s considered “bad form”

    • hockeyflow33 - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:41 PM

      You aren’t following what’s going on huh?

      • crosberries - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:09 PM

        So how is paying them what they owed a concession for the NHL?

      • hockeyflow33 - Dec 23, 2012 at 2:56 AM

        The owners have done nothing but act like immature babies during this entire process

    • mp1131211 - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:21 PM

      They did make return concessions and that is when the owners ended the owner/player discourse. The owners didn’t want more “deals” they wanted an agreement. And when they couldn’t get their way, they decided they would screw everyone.

    • shotzongoal - Dec 22, 2012 at 5:08 PM

      Well said

      • shotzongoal - Dec 22, 2012 at 5:20 PM

        This “well said” was for sportsfan69 way up there somewhere!

  5. sportsfan69 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    Correction: last proposal

  6. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    The players really should keep their mouths shut, but his frustrations are understandable. The NHL’s version of a negotiation seems to be putting out proposals that they require a yes or no answer to and rejecting any PA proposal out of hand. How can you negotiate in good faith when the other party acts like that?

    • mp1131211 - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:22 PM

      I’m not sure mouth shut or open at this point matters…

    • shotzongoal - Dec 22, 2012 at 5:27 PM

      How do you negotiate with a union leader who submits 5 offers all basically the same, tells his union members he can get them more and whose main strategy is threatening desertification?

  7. id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    20 goals 19 assists for 1.7 million. Just shut up and be grateful.

    • hockeyflow33 - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM

      And just who gave him that contract?

      • id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:26 PM

        What a dumb question? Do you think this conflict is about who gave out the contract, and once everyone agrees the conflict is over. Can you look pass your nose? Obviously you need to grow up before you become a business owner. What? You’ll just keep paying even if you over staffed because you hired them. Good business model.

      • id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:28 PM

        What a dumb question? Do you think this conflict is about who gave out the contract, and once everyone agrees the conflict is over. Can you look pass your nose? Obviously you need to grow up before you become a business owner. What? You’ll just keep paying your staff even if you’re over staffed because you hired them. Good business model.

      • tatdue - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM

        Wow Joey you just get more idiotic every day don’t you……

      • id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 5:18 PM

        tatdue who????

  8. dinklespiel - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    It’s rather interesting that a guy with the last name Chemera would be commenting on exactly that i.e.;
    Definition: a thing that is hoped for but impossible to achieve. Such as reaching an agreement.

    Does anybody else see a comparison of hockey negotiations with the Fiscal Cliff negotiations? I don’t.

  9. dinklespiel - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    Should be Chimera, sorry.

  10. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Hey Jason, he works for the owners, idiot, and yes they do run the league. And yep, they pay GB to run the business of the NHL for them, fool. And it’s time to realize how the business of business runs. If you were one of my 750 employees your comments would have gotten you fired. Your ungrateful for what NHL has given you, and you don’t think you can be replaced? There are many 19 yr olds not far from taking ur job, and you just have them a 1 year jump.

    • hockeyflow33 - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:44 PM

      There’s a reason he’s in the NHL over everyone else and it isn’t because of what he does or does not say. Stupid comments like this make you one of the more uneducated commenters on this board.

    • mp1131211 - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:29 PM

      Keep talking. Your really making the case for the owners. You have no idea what you are talking about “the business of business.” This is anything BUT regular business deals. Can you imagine if a hotel or a construction company was out of work during the busy season for 4 months? No. You can’t. Because business doesn’t operate this way. In the real business world, if an employer can’t hire employees at a rate that he is proposing, one of two things is going to happen: 1) the other employees will pick up the slack (can’t wait to see the arena janitors strap on some skates) or 2) the employer offers higher wages, better benefits, or incentives that provide future revenue increases. That is the “business of business” whether you like it or not

    • shotzongoal - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:22 PM

      I have to agree with Ducksk! The employers are the owners. The employee are the players. The employee only responsibility to the owners is to occasionally market the team and to play hockey with the best of their ability. For this they are paid a reasonable salary. The players are hired by the owners, are trained and developed by the owners and receive everything and anything necessary to develop their skills to become NHL players to win games and make money for the owners. The owners pay for the preparing, staging, marketing and showcasing the players and the games. Hopefully players will win games and fans will come to the game. The players on the other hand have guaranteed contracts that pay them regardless of anything short of an act of GOD. That includes under-performance. The players have increased risk of injury involved in their employment. However should a player be injured at work they don’t have to collect worker’s compensation as does the layperson. The players receive full pay and excellent medical care at the expense of their employer. An injured player could be flown all over the world to ensure the best of care…at the owners expense. They also receive a little extra in the paycheck for this risk.

      The players could play in other leagues but they know the money is in the NHL and North America. I have yet to hear of any player who said, “when I was a kid I would dream of playing in the KHL.” Sydney Crosby could be the most talented player ever but what would it matter if he was drafted by some Finnish league and never played in North America. It was an NHL owner who saw his talent, drafted him, promoted him, coached him, provided an environment to help develop his skills and nurtured him to play in the NHL. Why did the owner do this? To make money! It’s a business.

      The NHL has put it’s final offer on the table and the players at the advice of their counsel held out for more money. Shame on you players!

      • valoisvipers - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:18 PM

        Shotzongoal Really solid post, well said indeed.

      • hockeyflow33 - Dec 23, 2012 at 2:59 AM

        Oh good, another idiotic username of blomfield/idjoey/valois/etc

  11. id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    crosberries, what is it you don’t understand? Players signed their contracts based on the terms of the CBA signed in 05, which clearly indicated the HRR split would be 57/43. It was known that this term would expire on Sept 15, 2012. Surely you understand this. Now it’s time to ratify a new CBA. New as in the old is no longer valid so we need new terms. Sounds like business 101. No?

    • crosberries - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:12 PM

      I don’t read your stupid posts

      • acieu - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:55 PM

        Except to constanty reply?

      • valoisvipers - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:20 PM

        Sounds like you just did crosberries.

      • hockeyflow33 - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:00 AM

        The thirteen thumbs down are from all of that idiots usernames

    • crosberries - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:14 PM

      Pretentious pos

    • woodstakes - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:55 PM

      So tell us Joey… what does the term “Contract” mean?? If “contract” in the NHL means, “Contract is good but only up to the expiration of the CBA in which it was signed under.” Then why aren’t all contracts in the NHL done at the end of a CBA?? Why can’t the players come out and say “I want a new ‘contract’ because my last ‘contract’ was under the previous CBA.” they could say things like: “Surely you understand this. Now it’s time to ratify a new CBA. New as in the old is no longer valid so we need new terms. Sounds like business 101. No?”

      • id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:36 PM

        So, they have a contract. why aren’t they playing? I mean they have a contract and therefore should be paid, but only problem is they can’t play without an agreed upon CBA regardless of the contract you signed years ago or on Sept 14 at 11:59pm. And, there is nothing illegal about the current situation. So, what’s your point?

  12. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM

    He is an employee plain an simple. But the PA can’t even utter the word. They want to be held in some special class…I’ve heard products, entertainers etc…..they are employed by the owners. Period and so is GB. He’s out to destroy league and ruin life’s? He is doing what the owners, his employers want, just like the PA hired Fehr as their employee and is doing what they want. I’m for blowing this thing up and starting from scratch. Then we will see how bad they really loose and how many life’s really get ruined.

    • woodstakes - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:58 PM

      He is NOT an ‘employee plain an simple’ he is the PRODUCT of which the NHL SELLS to you and others like you! GM’s, Coaches, Trainers, Arena Staff, Bettman, Daly are ‘emloyee’s plain an simple’, none of them are being sold in order to make the NHL money.

      • shotzongoal - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

        No they are employees. They receive a paycheck and a W-2 form at the end of the year, not a 1099 form. The owners through the coaches trainers and others you mentioned all direct the employees (players), what to do, what time to do it, where to be and so forth. That’s by definition an employee. The owners provide everything necessary to the player to work for them. The product is the game of hockey and all the environment surrounding its presentation.

      • valoisvipers - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:30 PM

        The game of hockey is the product and players are the employees.Look back at all the great players of yesteryear, Orr,Howe,Hull ect ect all great players but now retired yet the game lives on (not so much this season) proof that Hockey is the product.

    • hockeyflow33 - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:03 AM

      From a legal standpoint, major sports leagues are anything but simple businesses and have many exemptions that no other industry/company are granted. You should probably stop posting about that which you do not understand.

  13. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    Owed? The agents, players and owners knew the CBA was expiring…it got silly, and now it might be all mute, unless of course u had $ up front like the 2 new wild players. Heard from them? Oh, yeah we did. Then we heard it was taken out of context. I said it before, these guys running around shooting thier mouths off, will pay a price. You think Trump or bill gates would forgive and forget?

    • crosberries - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM

      English please?

      • acieu - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:57 PM

        French will work

  14. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    Your right. Put up or shut up time. And biggest $ always wins. My $ on owners, but not my heart and soul. I skate because I love to skate.

  15. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    mp1131211: oops you forgot #3. If you run a business and are loosing $ you shut the door. Come to my town, I’ll show you gifted people out of work, and doors locked. And former owners life’s ruined. Go pay your union dues and vote for socialism. I live old school, honest work=honest pay. But that seems to be really old school.

    • blomfeld - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

      “honest work = honest pay”

      ducksk – That my friend is the absolute “best” line in this entire thread!

      ____________________________________________________________

      “The previous NHL-NHLPA contract (CBA) expired on September 15th, 2012 and therefore any/all agreements, clauses and stipulations contained there-in are subsequently now deemed null and void. While the content of such previous contract can indeed be used as a precedent or a working “template” in the creation of a new or subsequent contract (CBA), there still nonetheless exists no legal requirement whatsoever for either party to be bound by such previous content” …

      Source: Stern, Blomfeld and Associates LLP

  16. dinklespiel - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    The owners may not be the smartest people in the room, but it is usually their dollars at risk not the players, who can sell their product elsewhere.

  17. matt8204 - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    If you’re looking for sympathy, forget it. I don’t feel sorry for the owners or Bettman, either. Both sides have been atrocious and have handled this terribly since Day 1.

  18. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Really, a great coach doesn’t make a better product? A trainer who makes you physically better and heals you doesn’t make a better product? I would rather be called a cow than a product. In fact go head and call me whatever you want. Just pay me much as I can possibly can get, I’m good with that. It is the 3rd and 4th liners that have the most to gain or loose. I have not seen anyone now dispute the fact 18 teams lost $, and 80% of profit came from 3 teams. So, lets consolidate, loose 250 players, And everyone that is left will be superstars with huge contracts and we will all be happy.

  19. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Plan B. lets make it like US post office. Government run. Loose billions, pay massive pensions and benefits and because they provide a product who cares? Oh yeah, I’m a taxpayer and I do care that I pay for a rotten product. No, that’s not right, lets pay the USPS employees more, the product will be better. Workers rights, I’m all for it. But c’mon man.

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:45 PM

      The USPS is not run by the government. It does not depend on taxpayer dollars to function. It has had to borrow money lately (which it is only permitted to do from the Treasury, no bank loans allowed) since Congress mandated that it put aside billions for future retirees. It’s debt issues are only recent.

      “The U.S. Postal Service is, by law, an ‘independent establishment’ of the executive branch. The agency doesn’t normally use tax dollars for operations, except for its loan from Treasury. In 2005, the Postal Service had no debt, officials said

      “The Postal Service has been borrowing billions of dollars from taxpayers in recent years to make up shortfalls caused by declining mail volumes and a 2006 congressional mandate to pre-fund retirement health care benefits. It reported a $5.2 billion loss for the quarter ended June 30.

      “In the meantime, the Postal Service has been cutting cost. It has slashed post office hours, encouraged 8,000 mail handlers and postmasters to retire by the end of the year, and plans to close more than 200 postal plants over the next few years.”
      From money.cnn.com

      “Right now, Congress is considering a request from the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) to allow an end to Saturday mail delivery and closing post offices on Saturdays. And in an effort to dig itself out of debt, the USPS also has plans in place to eliminate 150,000 postal jobs by 2016.

      “Over the last three years, the USPS has already eliminated thousands of jobs. It’s probably difficult for most people to understand why the postal service is in so much trouble – it’s a government agency, right? Why can’t the government give it more money?

      “Well, besides the fact that the country is still digging out from a recession, the fact is the U.S. Postal service is not a government-funded agency. It is responsible for its own costs and revenues. At the same time, however, it is mandated to provide certain services. Like the first regulations governing telephone service – whose purpose was to ensure everyone in the country had access to affordable phone service – the post office is supposed to serve Americans of all economic levels. It is supposed to accomplish this goal and be profitable.”
      From Mansfield Today

      So the recent financial trouble experienced by the USPS is almost entirely government-driven: Forced pre-funding of pensions that other businesses are not required to do, delay by Congress in approving the USPS’s plan to eliminate Saturday delivery, and a mandate that the USPS can only borrow funds from the U.S. Treasury. You can drive any organization out of business if you place enough onerous demands upon it.

      • hockeyflow33 - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:05 AM

        Don’t even bother, this guy has reached the idiocy levels of blomfeld/idjoey/valvois/etc

  20. capsrockva - Dec 22, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    I saw his comments from CSN Washington, I agreed completely with all his comments. The people who work at the Verizon Center are the hardest hit, not just the players and the businesses around the verizon center are hurting too. He mentioned the Green Turtle is suffering through this crap just like us fans.

  21. shotzongoal - Dec 22, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Back to the original story. Jason Chimera said “We’re willing to get a deal done and try to sit down and talk with no ‘pre-conditions’ and they don’t want to talk.” May I ask, what were all the meetings these past few month about? You want no pre-conditions? Jason, are you suggesting that we start all over again? Not going to happen Sir. The best deal you’re going to get was on the table and your union told you to hold out for something better.

    The best part of this story was from it’s authors final comment. “This kind of talk at this point in the process does nothing but distract from reaching the finish line. That said, with the players overwhelmingly supporting a move to disclaim interest, the end game is upon us one way or another. Some might call it, ‘put up or shut up’ time.” Good show Joe!

  22. fortwaynekomets - Dec 22, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    just shut up and drop the F@cking puck!!

    am I wrong for supporting Chimera?

    ps. the Caps are one of my LEAST favorite teams.

    however I do have respect for Chimera, for.a big guy he hustles his a$$ off on the ice! he’s a solid teammate.

    I think he’s just saying what all of us fans think! don’t you think if it were up to him he would have signed and we’d be watching hockey right now? ifs a union…if they don’t all agree, no progress will he made.

    ps. he should have blasted Fher as well for his ignorance of the game and the power that lies within the Mr. Bettman.

    ps.#2- tune in to American One sports online to watch any ECHL, CHL, or College game around! long live the NhL :(

    • blomfeld - Dec 22, 2012 at 10:51 PM

      To “he” who promotes substandard hockey …

      Fortwaynekomets – again you offer words filled with lead and hate ? … and again you reveal your allegiance to the liar Fehr ? … then let it be so … in the morning Fort Wayne will be attacked and your words filled with lead and hate will be heard no more … that is all I have to say …

    • capsrockva - Dec 23, 2012 at 12:55 PM

      To Fort Wayne komets.,
      I tried that site. it’s not free

  23. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    It is not GB vs Fehr. It’s owners BS union. As for chimera I’m sure he is a great guy, most are, but him saying GB is out to ruin the game or its a personal vintetta is way over the top from any player.

  24. dinklespiel - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    The entire hope for an agreement this year IS a chimera!

  25. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    manchestermiracle;I appreciate the history lesson on the USPS. You did an excellent job defending my point. I could not of done it better. FYI per federal law all pensions public or private require they be funded to future to I believe 80%. + -. The reason they are in the red by billions is archaic thinking and systems, a long history of union bargaining for salary and out of whack benefits including pensions, but mostly horrendous customer service. I would love to see it privatized and vanquished forever. What is hosed to you? 3.75 mil a year? And if I last only the avg of 4 years in league I’m not smart enough to make it on that or god forbid doing anything but skate and score I should make more now? Because, the owners may make a big profit on the product I help deliver? I deserve it. Why? because, that’s why. Go read the air traffic controller labor history. Or % of cost of car in retirement benefits. Oh, that’s right we had to bail them out too..

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 23, 2012 at 12:32 PM

      Actually, duck, I disproved each of your assertions regarding your attempt to make the NHL like the USPS. But go ahead and think what I posted was in some way “defending your point” since you obviously entirely missed mine. And don’t even bother trying to get me started on the FAA’s (and Ronald Reagan’s) destruction of the air traffic controller’s union. I was there so I don’t need to “read” anything about it. You might benefit, though.

  26. broadstreetbeatdown - Dec 22, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    Dear dumb jocks,

    Please keep your mouths shut. You’re not helping your cause and we the fans are fed up. Every time you guys sound off on Bettman and your so called “love of the game” you sound moronic and uneducated. This whole situation has zero to do with your “love of the game” and everything to do with your love of money (American money, not Canadian money). Do yourselves and more importantly us (you know the people who pay your inflated salaries) a favor and STFU!

    • hockeyflow33 - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:07 AM

      The NHL is their job, not a Thursday night beer league. The only one who sounds like a dumb jock is you.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Dec 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM

        Hickeyflow33 why don’t you take Fehrs johnson out of your mouth. We’ll be able to understand you better.

      • hockeyflow33 - Dec 24, 2012 at 3:21 AM

        Ugh, nice recycled joke. Your creativity knows no bounds.

  27. fortwaynekomets - Dec 23, 2012 at 1:51 AM

    well good thing I live nowhere even close to Fort Wayne….

    but nice try Blomfeld… I mean Joey… I mean Stakex, Sportsfan, Aciu, valoisviper, or whatever other name you post under ;)

  28. ducksk - Dec 23, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    manchestermiracle; sorry, my bad. Too old to type on this iPhone and spell check gives me fits. I’ll try to do better. I promise. As for big business, labor and negotiations go, I have forgotten more about them than you will ever learn. How was my grammar?

  29. ducksk - Dec 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    Amen, peace brothers. To you to man miracle. I mean it. Opinions are like butt holes, we all have them.

  30. fortwaynekomets - Dec 23, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    nothing in life is freeeeee!

  31. ducksk - Dec 23, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    Sorry to say not even free speech seems to be free anymore.

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