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Doan’s losing some pride in saying he’s an NHL player

Dec 21, 2012, 11:27 PM EDT

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Shane Doan is staying optimistic about the chances of the 2012-13 campaign being saved, but at the same time he sounds like a man conflicted, based on quotes from the Arizona Republic.

“You’ve always been proud to say you’re an NHL player, to tell people that you play for the NHL. I play in the NHL,” Doan said. “I think now it’s getting to the point where you’re losing some of that pride because it’s been tarnished so much. You care so much about the sport you want it to be doing well. Obviously we have to find a way to get this going.”

That’s coming from a man who has stuck with the Phoenix Coyotes for years during their ownership turmoil and ultimately decided to re-sign with them over the summer. He’s also repeatedly expressed his optimism about the franchise’s future in Arizona.

The good news for Doan is that Greg Jamison’s prospective ownership group is set to sign the Jobing.com Arena lease deal with the City of Glendale. Doing so will push Jamison that much closer to acquiring the team from the NHL. If the 2012-13 campaign is saved, then the Coyotes might not have to wait long to begin the process of making hockey work in the desert under the umbrella of a clearer management situation.

That’s a battle he’d probably much rather be fighting.

  1. desertfan - Dec 21, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Duh!!!

  2. gp424 - Dec 21, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    If I was Doan I would be losing pride too. Knowing that while everyone in the economy is suffering massive losses his union the NHLPA wants more, more and more. His own team costs his city some 75 million per year, and the team has lost money every year in Phoenix. So what does Doan and his Union buddies want,,,,More, and more… When does it stop. So yes I can understand why Doan is losing pride, he should be embarrassed, every time he speaks at an overcrowded school, who’s district had to cutback on teachers so that his city could support his team so he can make more money.

    • stakex - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:24 AM

      Well I agree with what you’re saying, but to make one thing clear… the players aren’t asking for more, they are trying to give up less then they should. These guys who make between $600k and $14 million are fighting to the death (and willing to throw that money away for a season) over losing a couple percent of that, and to be able to sign jokingly long contracts (I guess 5 year $50 million isn’t big enough).

      It makes me sick, and I fully agree with you’re overall point… but again, they aren’t really asking for “more”.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:47 PM

      The way you say “Doan and his Union buddies” makes me think you are against unions. But you cannot group the NHLPA in with other unions because their due paying members make as much, or more than, the executives of big business who are constantly fighting against true blue collar unions. And the proof as to why the NHLPA is not like other unions is in the end of your comment.. when you mention the cutback of teachers. Teachers are all union members, and they’re struggling all across the country to keep or find jobs. So although I agree that the city paying for the Coyotes is absurd, especially at the expense of education, I don’t think you can disparage all unions (if that’s even what you meant). And I agree with stakex, that although it’s not right, the NHLPA isn’t really asking for more, just as much of the status quo as possible. If you wanna blame someone for the negative effects the Coyotes have had in that area, point the finger at Bettman. He’s the one who refuses to acknowledge that a majority of his southern franchises are an utter failure. But he will not discuss viable solutions to help those teams like revenue sharing, soft salary cap, relocation, or, as a last resort, contraction. After two failed Atlanta franchises, the move to Winnipeg has been a complete success. Time to consider relocation if Bettman won’t even discuss revenue sharing.

  3. sportsfan69 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM

    Cry me a river, please stop whining. Mr. 30 plus millionaire. Retire if you’re so ashamed. This is why we have a prolonged lock out. You want some cheese and crackers? I feel you’re pain. Oh….

    • johngaltx - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:24 PM

      So, if you were as skilled at hockey as Mr. Doan, you would play for free? Right?

  4. x50cal - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:44 AM

    I love when people comment on the lockout when they don’t understand what is going on. Read the numbers it says it all. Go Doan, go Coyotes, go NHLPA, and go hockey!

  5. innout10 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Did gp424 just say the coyotes cost Glendale 75 mil per year? Cuz that’s beyond absolutely false. They WILL have to pay about 15 mil per year once the new lease goes into effect, but have yet to pay the NHL a dime for running the team (and arena) for the last 2 yrs. Give your head a shake before saying dumb (and false) stuff bud

    • gp424 - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:36 AM

      I think somebody needs to go back and look at the last 5 years of Budgets and budget results for the city of Glendale. When you look at the budget, you might note that the Arena is #2 in the amount of dollars spent by the City. The police and fire are at #5 and #6. The budget analysis for Glendale includes Arena up keep, paying arena workers, and much more.

  6. Jeff - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:21 AM

    I’m not coming back. The NHL is dead to me.

    • blomfeld - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:04 AM

      Goodbye then and God speed friend …

    • budvw14 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:38 PM

      I agree. I love when people rip athletes for the money they make. These guys are the best in the world at what they do, and they’ve worked their entire lives to get there. They’re always ripping athletes for being successful. They want athletes to be more like them. But unfortunately, Walmart just doesn’t have need for more buggy pushers.

      • johngaltx - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:30 PM

        When U2 sold $500 million in tickets I did not see a public outrage. These players are entertainers, there is a market for their product and they should not be nickle and dimed to death every 6 or 7 years by the NHL. The owners were signing players to contracts right up until the lockout started knowing full well they well not going to honor the deals.

  7. blomfeld - Dec 22, 2012 at 2:32 AM

    Apparently building a casino in the middle of the desert also doesn’t work ? …

    and yet where is it now that so many people steal away during these cold months for their annual winter vacation ? … you got it baby, Las Vegas !!! The bottom line is that Shane Doan is “good” people and I “Blomfeld” for one, wish nothing but the best for this crazy enterprise there in the land of scorpions and 100 degree temperatures. You people gave us Kings serious “trouble” last year in the WCF and therefore you’ve truly earned our respect. So even though you guys are nuts, good luck to you, close rank and make a go of it ! :)

    • sportsfan69 - Dec 22, 2012 at 6:17 AM

      Blomfled,

      Classy.Patsy is one of my all time favorites. Bravo!

  8. trick9 - Dec 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM

    Only in Phoenix you need to actually tell the locals that you are indeed a NHL player.

  9. hooockey - Dec 22, 2012 at 7:55 AM

    Just retire then. I hate it when people who are rich beyond belief whine like this. I am ashamed to be an NHL fan.

    • johngaltx - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:34 PM

      Bill Gates is “rich beyond belief”, J.D. Rockefeller was “rich beyond belief”, hockey players are wealthy, and their wealth is earned through collective bargaining and quite possible to believe.

  10. sampulls - Dec 22, 2012 at 8:28 AM

    Self awareness is not Doans strong suit.
    When a crybaby says things like this, it means nothing.

  11. dprouse - Dec 22, 2012 at 8:29 AM

    I understand where he’s coming from. I see my game jersey, hat, tie and other licensed stuff, and I’m too embarrassed to wear it. This is the problem the NHL will face – they have made themselves into a laughing stock now, and that’s going to take a long, long time to shake off.

  12. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 8:36 AM

    Hey Shane, I’m sure it’s tough being a player right now, it’s even harder being a fan. I have no pension, health care, no bargaining rights…so should I feel sorry for you, jealous of you? No, you are a C and been in the league a longtime, step up, become a leader, look yourself in the mirror and ask what your doing to help the game come back. I’ll be in my van down by the river. Waiting for NHL, Hallie Berry, and Santa. Could be a disappointing Christmas.

    • budvw14 - Dec 22, 2012 at 12:47 PM

      Get an education? Learn a trade? Your short comings aren’t Doans fault. And at no point in this article did Doan ask for anyone’s sympathy.

  13. 1historian - Dec 22, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    If this goes on this will make the 2nd complete season in (how many years?) that they have tanked the entire season.

    Both sides should remember that the big money that the players get and that the owners make comes from the fans, and it seems to me that sooner rather than later the vast majority of these fans are just going to say “screw you!” and they will just stop putting up with it.

    Except of course for the die-hards. who are in a class by themselves.

  14. necromerlin - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    And this is the guy that had a 4 year $30 million contract offer that would have carried a $7.5 mil cap hit until he was 40.

    Of course the economics of the league were broken.

  15. omniusprime - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    This crybaby Doan should be ashamed of being an NHL player. Let’s face it NHL players are the ones who were never good enough to play the real sports like baseball, football or basketball. They were never tough enough to be boxers, that’s why they joined the NHL to wear pads and use sticks to see who gets in the best cheap shot.

    Hockey Stick – Apply Directly to the Forehead!

    Best thing to happen is for the whole season to be cancelled forever! There are better forms of hockey being played, namely the amateurs and women who actually play hockey instead of trying for cheap shots.

    Na na na na, Na na na na, Hey-ey Goodbye!!!

  16. dinklespiel - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    Doan’s the kind of guy that makes it hard on the rest of us 2 percent’ers. Looks bad to the collective masses that pay less taxes.

  17. id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    Here’s an excellent article by one of the most reputable hockey journalists. http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412056

  18. id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    budvw14, there is a lot you don’t know about athletes and you have no idea what it means to work hard. These guys are pampered and sheltered from the moment they are identified as the best of their age group. Are you telling us they are working from the moment the lace their skates at an age when they can barely feed themselves? It becomes a job when they are getting paid for playing a game. Anything before is just a game. Grow up!

  19. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    I don’t begrudge anyone who can make all the $ they can. But, what really seems to be missing is any gratitude from the players side for what they have or had, or will or won’t have. But, when owners sign the paycheck it is ultimately their call how how much is enough. Remember 18 teams lost $! And yes it was because they made some bad moves, but that means as business they can’t correct it when they can? Or shouldn’t have the right to? They are great athletes, the NHL is awesome compared to any hockey in the world. Surely this will end 1 way or the other. But I would be grateful and humble. Phoenix is. Such a mess no one will by it even at fire sale price. Why? Math. Hey, let’s go back to the original 6, every body rich, oops only 150 players could play and Montreal will win 25 more cups. Comparing NHL to NFL or MLB is asinine.

  20. ducksk - Dec 22, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    And entertainers have unions and union bosses? Exactly my point. What are they then? If I were Mr. Doan, I’d be grateful for all I have, I would go for every dime I could get! But, I would know when to hold and when to fold em. Him and other players insulting GB is way out of line. I wish he’d fire back, oh wait, he doesn’t pay the “entertainers” the owners do. Who owns U2. U2 does. You comparing apples to oranges.

  21. acieu - Dec 22, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Doan lost his pride when LA Kings handed him his jock strap last season.

    • blomfeld - Dec 22, 2012 at 6:17 PM

      NICE ONE !!! :)

    • sportsfan69 - Dec 22, 2012 at 8:59 PM

      That was funny.

    • id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM

      Good one!

  22. fortwaynekomets - Dec 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    Remember its the OWNERS pulling a lockout.

    players did nothing wrong.

    Some of you act as if they are on strike.

    get a grip already.

    • id4joey - Dec 22, 2012 at 11:46 PM

      Remember it’s the PLAYERS who are refusing to sign a deal. The owners haven’t done anything wrong.

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