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Daly says “sometime in mid-January” is point of no return

Dec 19, 2012, 1:37 PM EDT

Bill Daly

NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly confirmed today on Toronto radio that the point of no return for the cancelation of the season is “sometime in mid-January.”

Daly’s assertion is consistent with what happened after the 1994-95 lockout when a 48-game schedule started on Jan. 20. (Granted, the 2004-05 season wasn’t officially canceled until Feb. 16.)

Daly also said it was a “crap shoot” how the NHL recovers from yet another work stoppage:

“There’s nobody fooling anybody that what’s going on right now and the fact that we’re not playing hockey is a good thing for either the sport or the brand.”

Other highlights of the interview:

—- No talks between the NHL and NHLPA are scheduled.

—- Daly identified a defined benefit pension plan as well as a “far more robust revenue sharing system” (with NHLPA input) as things the players said they wanted and the league has agreed to.

—- Daly expects the players to vote “overwhelmingly” to authorize the NHLPA executive board to file a disclaimer of interest. However, that’s not the same as actually dissolving the union. (Translation: not a particularly big deal.) However, if the union does ultimately choose to file, it could “prolong any resolution.”

—- Daly said for the union to “suggest we have a 50-50 split is wrong” without first addressing issues like compliance buyouts and caps on escrow.

—- More games will probably be canceled before Christmas. (The schedule has already been canceled through Dec. 30.)

You can listen to the full interview here.

  1. blitzrunner29 - Dec 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    NHL Podium!!

  2. tmoore4075 - Dec 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    If they lose a season over this crap the leadership on both sides should be fired. I’ve said it before, losing the season to get a cap I understood. I didn’t like it but I understood it. To lose a season over the difference that now divide them? That’s beyond stupid. The biggest thing is contracting rights/term limits. You’ll lose a year, fans and probably sponsors for that? Wow.

    • matt8204 - Dec 19, 2012 at 2:35 PM

      Totally unacceptable. Terrible leadership on both sides.

  3. mungman69 - Dec 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    When (if) hockey comes back will I care?

  4. Stiller43 - Dec 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Thats nice that they look at the potential point of no return as the date to possibly get things done by, rather than when the season was due to start…

    I hate everyone involved

    • tfaltin - Dec 19, 2012 at 2:45 PM

      Agree 1000 times over.

  5. dbarnes79 - Dec 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    So dumb. I can guarantee that the NHL will be forever hurt by this. In some cases they may lose an entire generation of fans.

  6. mattyo99 - Dec 19, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Bill daly= curly bettman= moe jacobs= larry..3stooges..

  7. wallio - Dec 19, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    I don’t understand why the season has to have 48+ games? How about a 40 game season starting Feb 1. And just for this year, only 12 teams make the playoffs, with the 1 and 2 seeds in each conference getting a bye. And make the first round best of five (again just for this year). Its win-win, the season ends more or less the same time as normal, and every game counts. Of course this would require a compromise from either side, which won’t happen……

    • matt8204 - Dec 19, 2012 at 2:55 PM

      Remember back in February of ’05 when there were rumors of a deal right after the season was officially canceled? There was talk of a 28-game season that year. You would think if they could have ANY kind of season, they’d find a way to do it. Not playing at all is too much of a stain, especially considering that it’s not the first time they’ve done this.

  8. 8man - Dec 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Later than I would have thought, but it sounds about right. I don’t think the owners are posturing on this one.

    So that’s it then. Four weeks and they are either playing or the wondering and anguish ends. I don’t really care to speculate on how this will go.

  9. sabatimus - Dec 19, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    Cmon Daly, a nice Christmas present would be CLOSURE. Kill it now.

  10. lpd1964 - Dec 19, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    The NHL wonders why they are a distant 4th among the four major pro sports-the blind leading the blind-nice job!!

  11. id4joey - Dec 19, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    Certainly the repercussions of this lockout are already being felt, and complete cancellation will have a broader impact. Every year new kids are introduced to the NHL, and identify themselves to a player or team. For many, these are inspirations that drive their desire to begin playing the hockey. The NHL and NHLPA are both hurting the growth of their sport. Many kids this year may not have the chance to become an NHL fan. Sad!

  12. lordstanley65 - Dec 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    Every year, I buy a bunch of NHL stuff for the family for Christmas, you know…jerseys,hats,etc. Now I actually have to work at Christmas shopping. Mebbe I’ll get everyone Darts League stuff instead. Bah Humbug, NHL.

  13. sampulls - Dec 19, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Players have their heads up their @sses.

  14. id4joey - Dec 19, 2012 at 7:02 PM

    According to a well known ex coach, “Done deal!” Players will report to camp on or near Jan 1st and the season will start on or near Jan 10.

    Pat Brisson is calling the payers he represents telling them to be ready. He had a private conversation with Fehr, and played a huge role to bring both sides to the table.

  15. sportsfan69 - Dec 19, 2012 at 8:17 PM


    Let’s hope your source is legit.

    • id4joey - Dec 19, 2012 at 9:01 PM

      Listen He is very legit. We can only all hope that he is right. No one else in the media will repeat what he said until it’s officially announced. So, right now I’m hoping as much as every NHL fan that both sides have resolved their issues.

  16. omniusprime - Dec 20, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    A shame we have to go through this farce for almost another month before the wise decision to end the NHL season is announced. It’s pretty obvious that there will be no last minute deals to save the season, both sides aren’t even talking. I say let them decide to end the season now and just walk away from the NHL forever. The NHL is the most despicable excuse for a pro sport ever.

    Na na na na, Na na na na, Hey-ey Goodbye!!!

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