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	<title>Comments on: ECHL team suspends Setoguchi indefinitely (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: lordfletcher</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/echl-team-suspends-setoguchi-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-119732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lordfletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure if this was updated before or after I made my comment and completely missed it but... 

*update*
&quot;Setoguchi, who turns 26 New Year’s Day, says it’s as simple as he decided not to play during the holidays and there was no incident that caused a suspension.&quot;

answers all my questions]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if this was updated before or after I made my comment and completely missed it but&#8230; </p>
<p>*update*<br />
&#8220;Setoguchi, who turns 26 New Year’s Day, says it’s as simple as he decided not to play during the holidays and there was no incident that caused a suspension.&#8221;</p>
<p>answers all my questions</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/echl-team-suspends-setoguchi-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-119682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because the NHL players are represented by the NHLPA and the AHL, ECHL and CHL are represented by the PHPA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the NHL players are represented by the NHLPA and the AHL, ECHL and CHL are represented by the PHPA</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/echl-team-suspends-setoguchi-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-119681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ugh, the 45 days is an ECHL rule for reinstatement from suspension...please read the article before posting dumb comments]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, the 45 days is an ECHL rule for reinstatement from suspension&#8230;please read the article before posting dumb comments</p>
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		<title>By: cmdaw</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/echl-team-suspends-setoguchi-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-119629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cmdaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s taking 45 days off because he decided he didn&#039;t want to play during the holidays. The personal reasons for missing practice very well could have simply been that he decided he didn&#039;t want to play during the holidays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s taking 45 days off because he decided he didn&#8217;t want to play during the holidays. The personal reasons for missing practice very well could have simply been that he decided he didn&#8217;t want to play during the holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: dremmel69</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/echl-team-suspends-setoguchi-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-119574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dremmel69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess my point was, all the player &quot;unity&quot; talk is one sided.  I agree that it is professional sports and it is about making money.  But if the NHL players strike, why is it not acceptable for players from other leagues to move up and take their jobs?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my point was, all the player &#8220;unity&#8221; talk is one sided.  I agree that it is professional sports and it is about making money.  But if the NHL players strike, why is it not acceptable for players from other leagues to move up and take their jobs?</p>
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		<title>By: doubles22</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/echl-team-suspends-setoguchi-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-119453</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[doubles22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wild beat writer Mike Russo got Seto&#039;s take on it in his blog:  http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/184043351.html

Appears to be a &quot;voluntary leave,&quot; at least according to Seto.  From the blog:  &quot;He says it was announced as a suspension so this way the Reign doesn&#039;t have to pay him but retains his rights in case he decides to come back if the NHL season is canceled.&quot;

Seto has been taking to Twitter to air some dirty lockout laundry.  The main cause of the lockout seems to be the cap-circumventing, back-diving deals.  But now Seto thinks it&#039;s okay to knowingly attempt to circumvent ECHL roster rules so his rights can stay with The Reign?  

Apparently it&#039;s not cool to bend the rules a little bit.  Unless it benefits Seto.  I guess that makes it okay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wild beat writer Mike Russo got Seto&#8217;s take on it in his blog:  <a href="http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/184043351.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/184043351.html</a></p>
<p>Appears to be a &#8220;voluntary leave,&#8221; at least according to Seto.  From the blog:  &#8220;He says it was announced as a suspension so this way the Reign doesn&#8217;t have to pay him but retains his rights in case he decides to come back if the NHL season is canceled.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seto has been taking to Twitter to air some dirty lockout laundry.  The main cause of the lockout seems to be the cap-circumventing, back-diving deals.  But now Seto thinks it&#8217;s okay to knowingly attempt to circumvent ECHL roster rules so his rights can stay with The Reign?  </p>
<p>Apparently it&#8217;s not cool to bend the rules a little bit.  Unless it benefits Seto.  I guess that makes it okay.</p>
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		<title>By: lordfletcher</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/echl-team-suspends-setoguchi-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-119451</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lordfletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone else find it interesting that he is taking 45 days off from the club for personal reasons? 

I hope everything is okay with Seto and his family.

As for the debate on NHL players taking others jobs... Well, it&#039;s a professional sport folks, it just is what it is. The owners of any club should be focused on making money. If they can bring in NHL guys for an ECHL salary, why wouldn&#039;t they... sucks to be the guys now riding the pine but in no way is it any one else&#039;s problem .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else find it interesting that he is taking 45 days off from the club for personal reasons? </p>
<p>I hope everything is okay with Seto and his family.</p>
<p>As for the debate on NHL players taking others jobs&#8230; Well, it&#8217;s a professional sport folks, it just is what it is. The owners of any club should be focused on making money. If they can bring in NHL guys for an ECHL salary, why wouldn&#8217;t they&#8230; sucks to be the guys now riding the pine but in no way is it any one else&#8217;s problem .</p>
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		<title>By: acieu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acieu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a MACK truck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a MACK truck.</p>
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		<title>By: crosberries</title>
		<link>http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/18/echl-team-suspends-setoguchi-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-119426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crosberries]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does it matter since its not a player lock out? Maybe if these other players were better they wouldn&#039;t have to worry about having their jobs taken. It&#039;s not youth soccer where everyone gets a ribbon for participation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it matter since its not a player lock out? Maybe if these other players were better they wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about having their jobs taken. It&#8217;s not youth soccer where everyone gets a ribbon for participation.</p>
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		<title>By: vanchuk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanchuk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or as Bill Daly might opine:

&quot;Yes,” he wrote in an e-mail, “but they weren’t settled. … That’s like saying if my grandmother had wheels she would be a car. Since they missed on all three, it doesn’t seem like we were that close.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or as Bill Daly might opine:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes,” he wrote in an e-mail, “but they weren’t settled. … That’s like saying if my grandmother had wheels she would be a car. Since they missed on all three, it doesn’t seem like we were that close.”</p>
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		<title>By: vanchuk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanchuk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;if this were a players’ strike instead of an owners’ lockout&quot;

Yeah, and if my aunt had balls, she&#039;d be my uncle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if this were a players’ strike instead of an owners’ lockout&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, and if my aunt had balls, she&#8217;d be my uncle</p>
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		<title>By: barkar942</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[barkar942]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely! And let&#039;s not forget all of the KHLer&#039;s and European lower tier players who are working sweeping the floors or stocking the shelves at WalMart instead of playing, so some &quot;scabs&quot; like Ovie and Kovy can go home to show how great the KHL is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely! And let&#8217;s not forget all of the KHLer&#8217;s and European lower tier players who are working sweeping the floors or stocking the shelves at WalMart instead of playing, so some &#8220;scabs&#8221; like Ovie and Kovy can go home to show how great the KHL is.</p>
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		<title>By: dremmel69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dremmel69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some ECHL players are likely less enthusiastic about NHL players taking their jobs.   You know, players with only one mortgage payment they are now less able to make.   The players who would be branded as &quot;scabs&quot; should they even dare take an NHL roster spot if this were a players&#039; strike instead of an owners&#039; lockout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some ECHL players are likely less enthusiastic about NHL players taking their jobs.   You know, players with only one mortgage payment they are now less able to make.   The players who would be branded as &#8220;scabs&#8221; should they even dare take an NHL roster spot if this were a players&#8217; strike instead of an owners&#8217; lockout.</p>
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