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NHL, union both want to resume negotiations, but will they?

Dec 17, 2012, 9:37 PM EDT


The CBA negotiations might be at a standstill right now, but the NHL is interested in getting them started again.

“We obviously would prefer that the Players return to the bargaining table at the earliest possible date to see if there is a deal to be done,” NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told the Star Tribune’s Michael Russo.

“Ultimately, a deal will have to be agreed to, regardless of the forum. I suppose it is ultimately up to them to choose what forum that will be, but the Union pretending it’s not a Union anymore certainly isn’t going to expedite things.”

Daly is referring to the current players’ vote to potentially dissolve the union and form a professional trade association.

The 2011 NBA lockout ended quickly after the NBPA decided to dissolve into a trade association and some are hoping for a similar result here.

Meanwhile, NHLPA’s special counsel Steve Fehr took exception with the wording of Daly’s statement.

“There is no need for the players to ‘return’ to the table because the players have never left,” Fehr said. “It was the owners who indicated last Thursday that they had nothing more to say right now. We are ready to bargain whenever they are.”

So to summarize, both sides are ready and willing to bargain, but despite that there are no talks currently scheduled.

  1. flyeredup - Dec 17, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    Queue the fat lady, she’s gonna sing real soon!

    • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Dec 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

      Do those quotes by Daly and Fehr make anyone else think they sound like two people who know they need work together but are stuck on making sure they remind the other one it’s their fault we are in this mess?

      Pride is a great thing when it’s associated with the work one does…………but outside of that it tends to be self absorbed, pig headed, and useless in accomplishing anything but stroking one’s ego.

      The problem is that their ego’s are costing them paychecks, ticket revenue, and most importantly arena worker’s jobs.

      They’ll work it out, and I’ll watch, but they’re all a bunch of children!

    • islanders1 - Dec 18, 2012 at 12:44 PM

      Send the owners, Daly, and Bettman on a road trip to a hill in Afghanistan and let them see what it is really like to die over a hill! I still can not believe how arrogant Daly and his friends are hope the player s kick your ……………. If the season gets canceled Mr. Daly are you going to go to Afghanistan and defend your country pick up a rifle and fight on a hill side. I think not pretty hard to spend your multi million dollar salary while getting shot at on the side of a hill in Afghanistan.

      ‘Hill we will die on’

      Add to the above the comments of NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly, who said that a five-year limit on contract lengths is a “hill we will die on.” Daly is not prone to grandiose statements, nor doing or saying things out of spite or anger, nor saying things that he doesn’t truly believe himself.

      If this guy truly believes he will die over a 5 year contract term then ………..

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Dec 18, 2012 at 10:27 PM

        As long as include the Fehr brothers and their dog and pony show in that group I’m with you

  2. noisetheorem - Dec 17, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    Every statement made by either side has to be considered preparation for a potential court case now. I wouldn’t believe anything they say in public, because anything on the record could screw them later.

  3. id4joey - Dec 17, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    And it happened again …..
    id4joey Dec 16, 2012, 11:34 AM EST

    Talks will resume this week for sure. They are talking about Tuesday or Wednesday, and will be working to hammer out a deal. By then the players will have completed the voting process, which will determine what card they will play next. A no vote for the disclaimer of interest will leave them in the ropes, a yes vote will push the league to get their case heard in court much sooner. This is indeed pathetic, and one has to wonder how this chapter of the NHL will be written in the history books of the soon to be 100 year league.

    id4joey Dec 16, 2012, 11:09 AM EST

    Have no Fehr. More negotiations are scheduled to resume this week.

    • stakex - Dec 17, 2012 at 10:29 PM

      Dude stop quoting yourself to try and prove you were right about something. We could go back and find a few dozen statements you made that have been flat wrong. You know what they say about a broken clock don’t you? If you make enough crazy statements, eventually one of them is probably going to be true.

      Besides, theres almost not chance they meet as soon as Wednesday, and there are clearly no negotiations scheduled between the two sides with this war of words going on. So you’re statement is actually wrong anyway.

      • id4joey - Dec 17, 2012 at 11:12 PM

        Dude! Do you really think I care about what you want or don’t want me to do. This is no different than betting on Wall St. You win some and you lose some. And when you win you cash in, but in my case I repost. And you know what, I’ve been right more often than not. It’s hillarious that people are so concerned about what I post, and how many times I’m right or wrong. Do your thing and I’ll do mine. After all, this is a public forum.

      • therealjr - Dec 17, 2012 at 11:18 PM

        Joey, take this mini-life lesson and realize when you are acting like an arrogant douche. I’m sure it can be applied to aspects beyond this forum.

      • id4joey - Dec 18, 2012 at 3:24 AM

        therealjr, c’mon! Do you seriously think I’m going to take life lessons from commenters on a hockey message board? That’s like leaving a 12 year old alone with a ccnvicted pedophile. Ain’t gonna happen, Dr. Phil.

      • shortsxit34 - Dec 18, 2012 at 3:53 AM

        Joey, you obviously do care. Last week somebody started quoting your past posts for all the times you’ve been wrong and you started whining and calling him names. You even went as far as to say he was a “jerk” and doing it “just to prove how smart he is.”

        Are you the pot or the kettle?

      • id4joey - Dec 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM

        shortsxit34, why are you even jumping into this dialogue? Anyway! Mano-a-mano…. You piss on me, I piss on you. You take a shot at me, I’ll take 3 shots at you. You want to talk hockey and exchange opinions. I’m in as well.

  4. mrwings787 - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    These guys would make dividing 1 pizza difficult

  5. blomfeld - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM


    As you know friends, I’ve recently revisited the possibility that Donald Fehr is nothing more than a payed “patsy” reading from a “prepared” script under the direction of one Gary Bettman ? Or in other words, he’s a “sheep in wolf’s clothing” who was approached by Bettman several years ago, for the explicit purpose of assuming a “deep cover” role in an effort aimed to undermine the entire NHLPA. Many here at PHT have said “nuts” to this suggestion and yet I ask you now … hasn’t everything to date been completely “consistent” with such an audacious and dastardly plan ?

    Though none of us can reveal who we truly are here at PHT, I am prepared to divulge the following excerpt from a conversation which I had earlier today with an old friend of mine from the Swedish daily EXPRESSEN. To protect my friend’s identity, he’s referred to here-in simply as “Jürgen ” …

    Jürgen: Ja, so is your view then that Fehr is nothing more then a “payed” Quisling ?

    Blomfeld: I’m now completely convinced of that ! Look friend, everything that’s happened to date is completely consistent with the NHLPA being destroyed outright and the owners being handed a “new order” And God only knows what the future and this “new order” will now hold for the players ?

    Jürgen: Ja, what you say is very frightening and yet it’s probably very true ? What do you think is Fehr’s motivation for this treachery ?

    Blomfeld: I’m convinced that it’s nothing more than money ! Look, the man was slated to “apparently” earn approximately 2 million dollars from the NHLPA at the end of this negotiation, right ? Yet how much do you think he would earn from a group of “billionaire” owners if he was playing the other side of the fence and by doing so, netting them “billions” more dollars in profit ? … 50 million? … 100 million ?

    Jürgen: Ja, it doesn’t even bear thinking. Well Comrade Blomfeld, what then do you feel is the player’s best option at this point ?

    Blomfeld: I’m convinced friend that their only option at this point is to initiate a cleansing … or an Operation Valkyrie if you will. Their leadership at this point has been compromised beyond help and therefore there’s nothing left to to but “amputate” with extreme haste and prejudice !

    Jürgen: Ja, thank you friend for speaking with us today. Will you perhaps come back to visit us again in Sweden soon ?

    Blomfeld: Ja, it’s my hope to do that one day soon !

    • zetaone - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:47 AM

      His name is pronounced ‘fear’ not ‘fair’. Therefore, fail pun.

      • blomfeld - Dec 18, 2012 at 2:21 AM

        and you obviously don’t speak German …

      • zetaone - Dec 18, 2012 at 11:05 AM

        And neither do you lol. Or do you think your stupid ‘comrades’ and ‘ja’s’ count? Can’t decide who is the bigger joke on PHT, you or Joey.

    • shortsxit34 - Dec 18, 2012 at 3:56 AM

      The only thing that has been consistent is your track record with predicting when the lockout would end. You’ve been wrong like 8 times, but every time you’re wrong you somehow use it as evidence that you going to be right.

      • id4joey - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:53 PM

        And for every time I’ve been wrong so has many journalist. Why does it bother you so much how many times I’m wrong? Get a life, guy. Even Fehr predicted the lockout was ending, and he was completely wrong too.

  6. blomfeld - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:35 AM

    PS to PHT friends …

    hey man, there’s no way I “can’t” add an ABBA song here, right ? :)

  7. rainyday56 - Dec 18, 2012 at 2:24 AM

    Gå och skit så du blir klar i huvadet!

    • blomfeld - Dec 18, 2012 at 3:10 AM

      translation: “go and take a crap so I can become clear headed” … or words to that effect

      friends … suffice it to say that were I and this rainyday56 creature to be sitting down right now face to face, then the only thing that would be “crap” would be the poor excuse for this idiot’s neck after it was snapped like a chicken’s … rainyday56 kompis … du fa gjarna styck at helvete din bog djavel !

  8. acieu - Dec 18, 2012 at 6:18 AM

    Think of Joey as entertainment rather than information and it works real well.

    • id4joey - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:01 PM

      And we have a winner. Although, you will at times find interesting information if you take off your dislike id4joey glasses.

    • id4joey - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:56 PM

      Actually, you cannot say that I am more entertaining than those clueless players and greedy owners. So, I suppose compared to them I am less entertaining.

  9. sportsfan69 - Dec 18, 2012 at 7:25 AM

    NHLPA last song before their own self destruction.

  10. omniusprime - Dec 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    The NHL negotiations are being conducted by the Keystone Kops, no wonder nothing is happening. Just too funny how both sides say they want to talk but then they don’t bother. I’m enjoying this circular firing squad that has sidelined the most despicable pro sport ever. Pretty soon it will be too late to save the season, the best possible outcome.

    Hockey Stick – Apply Directly to the Forehead!!!

  11. ussportsfanuk - Dec 18, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    If they do end up meeting again though aren’t we just going to get fed the same stuff:

    Day 1: Constructive. Will meet again tomorrow.
    Day 2: Progress. Will meet again tomorrow.
    Day 3: Promising signs! Will meet fo a 4th consecutive day tomorrow.
    Day 4: No deal. talks have broken down and no more are planned!

    How many times have we seen that situation this close season. I really can’t see anything but a lost season now.

  12. tfaltin - Dec 18, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Talk to so cheap from any of these losers at this point. Don’t talk to me about the idea of talking. let me guess, the PA was willing to talk first? But the NHL never wanted to stop talking? So juvenile. If you want to talk then pick up the phone Stevie, you too Billy. Make both of these kids stand against the wall, call their parents and have them picked up from school.

  13. samurai3939 - Dec 18, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Joey and Blomfeld are obviously failures in life looking for attention on a message board.

    • kyzslew77 - Dec 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM

      I can’t deal with Joey, but let’s face it, Blomfeld rules.

      • blomfeld - Dec 18, 2012 at 2:51 PM

        Armies of attractive women and lakes of expensive wine …

        Kyzslew77 – while I can’t speak for these other negative people, please know friend that it’s my wish for your holidays to be filled with these things and more ! :)

    • ron05342 - Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM

      What does that statement say about you?

    • id4joey - Dec 18, 2012 at 1:02 PM

      Of course we are both here to win a popularity contest. Right?

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