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Silence continues between NHL, NHLPA

Dec 16, 2012, 6:52 PM EDT

Donald Fehr: AP

For the third straight day, the NHL and NHLPA haven’t spoken at all, RDS’ Renaud P. Lavoie reports.

It really comes as no surprise when you consider the events of this weekend.

The league filed a class action complaint on Friday in hopes of curbing the NHLPA’s likely move to de-certify. (As also expected, the union began the five-day voting process on Sunday to determine if they’ll file that disclaimer of interest.)

While the two sides continue this game of CBA chicken, onlookers can enjoy digesting the legal details and hearing about players getting “locked out” of team-owned restaurants. Good times.

  1. joeyashwi - Dec 16, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    At this point they will probably make more progress not talking.

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM

      Yes, because by keeping their traps shut they aren’t going backwards…

  2. dprouse - Dec 16, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    This silliness, unfortunately, is going to continue for the next three weeks or so. With Bettman talking about a minimum 48 game season, the de facto deadline is now around January 10 to 12. This means that neither side is going to cave right now to save perhaps 8 to 10 games. It makes more sense for them to wait right to the deadline, and see if the other side blinks first. I have no idea if we are going to have a mini-season or not, but I’m pretty certain that if we do have one, it won’t get solved until they are right up on a deadline, and one side or the other blinks.

    • blomfeld - Dec 16, 2012 at 10:10 PM

      Well said, Joey ? 😉

      In all seriousness, people shouldn’t let themselves become dismayed by the words and images of the “wolf in sheep’s clothing” known as Donald Fehr. We’re helpless to do anything about it and besides … sometimes “silence” can be golden ! :)

  3. trbowman - Dec 16, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    Let me save ya’ll the time and tell you exactly how the next month is going to go. Up until January 20th, which I’ll say is the absolute drop dead date.

    Fifteen days – posturing, finger pointing, legal mumbo jumbo, “the other side [insert insult here],” thumbs up behinds

    January 1st on – A growing sense of “hey, this thing is really on the line! Maybe we should actually do something!” Either the season will be saved at the last minute, or it won’t be. If the latter happens, expect a painful Bettman press conference and each side pointing to the other as the cause of the end of the season.

    • stain67 - Dec 17, 2012 at 5:08 PM

      Way to go out on a limb….”Either the season will be saved at the last minute, or it won’t be.”

  4. ludacrish05 - Dec 16, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    I stopped caring and you’re losing more fans by the second

    • florida727 - Dec 17, 2012 at 10:14 AM

      I’m not a “big business” guy by any stretch, but when are the players going to realize they have no leverage in this? They’re EMPLOYEES. Try telling your boss that unless you get a bigger piece of the company pie, you’re not going to work anymore. Your butt would be out the door and your replacement sitting in your office before the door shut behind you. You going to tell me there aren’t up-and-coming kids in juniors that would jump at the chance to put on an NHL sweater a little early? Does everyone want to see the “stars” perform? Of course. Would people still show up to games and spend money on tickets, concessions, and parking if the current players never returned? Yep.

      • thephazed - Dec 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM

        Are you kidding me? Even REFS have leverage; you think the star players that we all know and love don’t? Replacing someone at McDonald’s is a lot different than replacing the most well-known and highly-skilled hockey players in the entire world. They’re not just unskilled employees that can be replaced on a whim; it’s the players many hockey fans love the most, not just the sport.

      • florida727 - Dec 17, 2012 at 3:35 PM

        Apparently they don’t have as much leverage as you want to credit them with. If they did, we’d be WATCHING GAMES instead of talking about who’s in control or who isn’t.

        My point is, I’d gladly watch an AHL or a good, quality juniors game, as opposed to watching NOTHING. In that respect, yeah, NHL players ARE expendable. Heck, I go to the local rink to watch my daughter’s boyfriend play, just see hockey up close. Frankly, it’s been a lot of fun so far. And I don’t have to pay $100+ for tickets, parking, etc.

  5. trbowman - Dec 16, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Also, let me give a friendly little message to the NHL/NHLPA – most of us don’t know anything.

    All this red tape? All these mind numbing details? Contracts? Yadadada. Ya, so the business side is a part of the game. Breaking news – fans don’t give a flying fu**! Moreover, most of us are completely uneducated as to all the details being discussed and the things going into CBA negotiations

    I mean good lord, I’m a blue collar guy. Spare me this legal mumbo jumbo. And when has getting LAWYERS involved in anything a good idea? Lawyers as a form of mediation puzzles me. Trust me, I’ve got two lawyer sibs. And anyone who’s dealt with lawyer’s will tell ya….

    • blomfeld - Dec 16, 2012 at 10:12 PM

      LAWYERS ROCK !!! :)

  6. trbowman - Dec 16, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Triple post – I don’t really care that they’re not meeting right now – the meetings would go nowhere anyway. The meetings aren’t going anywhere and have no shot at going anywhere until this really goes down to the wire.

  7. pastabelly - Dec 16, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    I would prefer they cancel this season and work to a real long term deal that both sides can live with for 10 years.

    • blomfeld - Dec 16, 2012 at 10:14 PM


  8. missamyg - Dec 16, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    don’t be surprised if no one shows up at the games if you ever resolve your issues. I quit on these jerks during the 2004-2005 lockout when they put so many hardworking folks out of work over their millonaire issues. If there is so much money they can’t figure out how to split it, try lowering ticket prices and give back to the fans that provide you with the funds to fight over!

    • 1historian - Dec 17, 2012 at 7:38 AM

      that makes WAY too much sense, so that is the first thing they threw out.

  9. glink123 - Dec 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    nobody gives a flying f – c k about hockey. lol. seriously.

    • florida727 - Dec 17, 2012 at 10:20 AM

      True hockey fans will always “give a flying f—“. It’s only people like you, the proverbial casual fan, that gets turned off by what’s taking place. Yes, it’s a “minor” sport relative to football, basketball and baseball, so yeah, the owners and players would be well advised to do a little reality check before they DO lose their core customers, but to say categorically that NOBODY gives a flying f—, is complete and total ignorance on your part.

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 17, 2012 at 12:25 PM

        I’ve been a fan since the late 70s and I’m pretty turned off by this childish game of chicken. Even those who’ve spent their hard-earned dollars in the past on tickets to games and on merchandise are beginning to find other things to spend that money on.

        The reality is that the league has idiotically blown a huge chunk of their recent growth and goodwill right out the door in the pursuit of unmitigated greed. Whether or not you consider yourself a hard-core fan, you will be making a mistake if you reward this lockout by buying anything NHL related when (if) play resumes. Fans flocked back after the last lockout, the league most definitely took notice of that, and now here is your reward: Another lockout, another shortened or lost season, and another winter of no NHL hockey.

      • mountainmantride - Dec 17, 2012 at 3:51 PM

        No. You aren’t correct. It’s not just “casual” fans who have given up on this lunacy. I’ve been a hockey player (NCAA D1) and fan for 40 years. From Canada to boot. And I DON’T give a flying f$%k about the game anymore. As I have posted here many times, my money stays in my pocket and won’t end up in any of those dickheads–aka players and owners–pockets. The only, repeat only, way players and owners will wise up and quit acting they this is the freakin’ NFL (11 million fans watched the Superbowl) they will get zero of my money. Zip. Nada. Casual or not, fans of this league need to step up and walk out. It’s a FANS “Walk Out” not a players lockout that will change this for once and for all.

      • blomfeld - Dec 17, 2012 at 11:43 PM

        I think we “do” care friends, regardless of whether we admit it or not … and that’s probably the sad part …

    • mountainmantride - Dec 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM


  10. whatthepuck2012 - Dec 16, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    I can’t get past that picture of Fehr…wtf is he doing?

    • manchestermiracle - Dec 17, 2012 at 12:27 PM

      With that pasty skin that’s as close as he dares to come to the tanning machine.

  11. 1historian - Dec 17, 2012 at 7:37 AM

    when these clowns – on BOTH sides – finally come to realize that the number of people who actually care about their little game is growing by the day maybe something will get done.

    There has to be a frenchman joke in here someplace.

  12. acieu - Dec 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    Please change the picture you use of Fehr. I can think of several things it looks like he may be doing. None are complementary.

  13. stain67 - Dec 17, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    The players must realize by now, they will be signing the owners CBA, just as they did in 04-05.
    The question is will they do it in time to save part of this season or will it be sometime after this season is cancelled?

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