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NHL, NHLPA meet with mediator; Daly says drop-dead date “has never been considered”

Dec 13, 2012, 10:43 AM EDT

Gary Bettman; Bill Daly AP

It’s unclear whether CBA negotiations (if you can call them that lately) will continue today after the NHLPA met with federal mediator Scot Beckenbaugh this morning.

As you may know, yesterday’s talks failed to bridge the gap between the NHL and the players.

How long can the two sides sit and stare at each other until the season is kaput? Well, deputy commissioner Bill Daly tells Yahoo!’s Nick Cotsonikas that a drop-dead date “has never been considered.”

That said, commissioner Gary Bettman said last week that he “can’t imagine wanting to play fewer than” 48 games — the same number they played after the 1994-95 work stoppage — which most observers believe means a mid-January target.

Update: 2:50 p.m. ET:

The NHL, represented by counsel Bob Batterman, has also spoken with the mediator; however, the two sides have yet to meet together in the same room. Whether they do remains up in the air.

  1. illogic87 - Dec 13, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    What a bunch of stubborn Aholes!

    • lostpuppysyndrome - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM

      Nicely summed up.

  2. spongebobsportspants - Dec 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    You know what? Cancel it. I’ll be back next year and you better treat us like royalty. 2 for 1 tickets is a good start. Ha! Who am I kidding? When they come back ticket prices will simply hold for a year before they go up again! Losing a year does help the Leafs though. They needed a year to regroup. Go Leafs!

  3. fortwaynekomets - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Who cares at this point? I feel like us fans have done everything possible. our voices have been heard, and neglected.

    I am getting by watching ECHL on America One Sports online, and also college hockey on NBCSports network. best thing ever during the lockout. you’d be surprised how stacked the league’s are due to the NHL. the ECHL is not full of AHL players, and the AHL is full of NHL players. pretty cool seeing guys like Ryan Clowe, Devon Settagucci, Ryan Reaves, Brandon Dubinsky, etc. all playing in the East Coast Hockey League!

    Go Ft. Wayne Komets!

  4. ruddigervancity - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Of all the lies that have been thrown around during these talks, there cannot be any that are more blatant and obvious than that one. Never been considered?

    • ron05342 - Dec 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

      Daly is a lawyer.

      When lawyers move their mouths, a lie forms. It is as natural as bacteria multiplying.

  5. dprouse - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    This is a legal move. If they admit to considering it, they are admitting that they are not currently bargaining in good faith, thus giving the NHLPA ammunition for a Disclaimer of Interest and an immediate anti-trust lawsuit. Right now, the NHL is sticking it to the union hard, not budging from their offer and even reducing the amount of “make whole” money they offered last week. Setting a drop dead date to go along with it would put the NHL in a weak position if this goes the legal route.

  6. capesouth - Dec 13, 2012 at 12:34 PM

    Cancel the season, move some teams to better locations (Quebec, Seattle, etc) or remove them completely, and hash out a long-term CBA that actually works in favor of the league’s long-term health (and doesn’t need to be completely blown up every 6 or 7 years). Finally, just for the sake of change, both the NHL and PA should force a change in leadership…get some new blood in there. It is time for that.

    • capesouth - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:43 PM

      Not actually expecting them to move teams…I just think it is necessary. Columbus, Phoenix..get out of here.

  7. cspsrbums - Dec 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    I agree cancel season and new leadership

  8. pastabelly - Dec 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Agree with sentiments above. The league should get out if certain markets. That’s part of the problem. I have no interest in a short year. Cancel the season and reboot for next year. Idiots.

  9. antkowiak666 - Dec 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    i wish NBC Sports would show the AHL’s the next best thing to the NHL.

  10. id4joey - Dec 13, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Ran into an ex-GM today and asked him what he thought it would take to resolve the conflict. “I have no idea. There are three issues that the owners consider very important, but the players refuse to address them. It’s beyond me that they are willing to lose $1.7b in salaries.” Well! There you have it! Plagiarizer my a$$… Find this on the internet…. No names will be revealed to protect my identity. LOL!

    • mgp1219 - Dec 13, 2012 at 4:58 PM

      shut the fck up joey. you know nobody so stop making things up, A-HOLE!!

      • id4joey - Dec 13, 2012 at 5:21 PM

        LMAO! It’s ok, son. Relevant people here and they know who they are, will appreciate the insights. BTW, a$$ whole, I never said I knew him. “Ran into an ex-GM today” is what I wrote dick head. And I did what you probably would not have the guts to do. Loser!

    • valoisvipers - Dec 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM

      Thanks for the insight Joey. It seems everyone that is not involved with the process,
      can’t understand why a deal isn’t done yet. There is a deal to be had here but egos and greed keep getting in the way.

  11. whatthepuck2012 - Dec 13, 2012 at 5:09 PM

    Omg it has to be true. No one could possibly make up THAT quote. o.O

  12. omniusprime - Dec 14, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Not having a drop dead date shows just how arrogant and ignorant the NHL is. I’m LMAO that they can’t even get together in the same room to discuss terms of surrender. Too funny how now NBA players and owners are offering the sissies in pads with sticks on ice who try to see who gets in the best cheap shot advice as to making an agreement.

    I’d say that the drop dead date has already passed, the season is lost because they aren’t even close to making an agreement. The pathetic NHL should just shrivel up and die the ignominious death it so richly deserves. That would be the best thing that could happen to NHL fans.

    Na na na na, Na na na na, Hey-ey Goodbye!!! Can you hear the Fat Lady getting ready to sing for the NHL??? You Betcha!!!

  13. jralexandria - Dec 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    I hope by the beginning of next season that BOTH Bettman and Fehr are GONE!

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