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Malhotra says getting a deal done isn’t as easy as it seems

Dec 10, 2012, 8:24 PM EDT

Manny Malhotra AP

Vancouver’s Manny Malhotra has been a fixture at labor meetings during the lockout. While talk has been surprisingly hopeful about getting a deal done, even in spite of today’s cancellations, Malhotra knows it won’t be simple.

Ben Kuzma of The Province spoke with Malhotra who shared his thoughts on how splitting things up isn’t as easy as it sounds.

“You’d like to think so, but coming from where we have and going in their [owners'] direction all summer long and having no reciprocation on their part, I don’t think splitting the difference at this point would be in fact splitting it — it would be us conceding more to them.”

Malhotra says the players “have conceded too much” to the owners and giving them more is “nonsense.” Obviously the owners’ view of things would be quite the opposite of that, but much like everyone involved in these talks, he’s frustrated with the process.

  1. ducksk - Dec 10, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    Shhhh. Brain surgeon at work. thanks manny for the same comments made by 100 of you the last 3 months.

    • blomfeld - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

      Now Now !

      I hear you friend no doubt. But let’s cut Malhotra a little slack eh ? After all, he has no further knowledge or sway over what’s “really” happening than some hapless starfish caught up in a tsunami-sized wave ! Nonetheless, he’s a good player and an “excellent” person in everyday life … and he means well. No, this thing is going to end when “Bettman” decides it’s going to end, not a minute sooner and not a minute later. I just hope and pray that the little “cagey” NY lawyer’s plan calls for the charade to end now during the coming week ?

      ps: can’t recall ever offering you an Elvis number ? … sorry about that man ! :)

      • killerpgh - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:33 PM

        Didn’t Bettman say he wanted a deal done last Friday?

      • blomfeld - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM

        killerpgh – friend, that’s the part I don’t get ? … has Bettman run into a brick wall here with his “planned” delay to the start of the season ? … or is it that we still haven’t reached the target date for his “planned” delay to the start of the season ?

      • badintent - Dec 11, 2012 at 2:54 AM

        Was Chuck Norris really Prescilla’s judo teacher ? I heard he was and was promoted by Paul Newman to go into acting and the movies.

      • blomfeld - Dec 11, 2012 at 3:41 AM

        badintent – off the top of my head, I believe the karate instructor who she had an affair with was called Mike Stone or something ? … Elvis was devastated at the time, though he’d already done that to her probably at least a thousand times prior …

  2. ducksk - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    P.S. you done good for yourself manny. Solid 3rd liner making 2.5 million, plus, a staggering 11 goals last year.

    • blomfeld - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

      Yes indeed, as with that 2.5 million he’s earning approximately “8 x times” what Prime Minister Stephen Harper currently earns … so needless to say, I also agree that it’s a “disgrace” the players are being taken to the cleaners like this !

      • blomfeld - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:07 PM

        hawkeedawg – no doubt friend … however there are policemen, soldiers, firemen and loggers just to name a few, who risk and sadly lose “life and limb” everyday for a mere “fraction” of what someone like Malhotra makes … I know he’s a good guy and all, but it has to be kept in perspective …

      • manchestermiracle - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:33 PM

        The players, as well as the first-responders, soldiers, etc., you mention are products of the system. People want to be entertained and are willing to pay for it, while at the same time whining about being taxed (and paying accountants to limit what they have to pay). The entertainers get the discretionary income while the really important people have to hold bake sales to meet their budgets.

      • blomfeld - Dec 11, 2012 at 3:51 AM

        manchestermiracle – yes, we are a funny species indeed … the people we really depend on in life such as doctors, policemen, teachers and firemen are paid a fraction compared to the lavish incomes of entertainers … and yet who do we call when we’re in real trouble ourselves ? … Madonna ? .. Ovechkin ? .. Tiger Woods ?

    • hawkeedawg - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:39 PM

      Ducks…have you forgotten the horrendous eye injury and the time it took Manny to get back to playing. Manny means a lot more to the team than 11 goals. He is one of the most respected players in the league and plays a huge role in the Children’s Hospital fundraising, among many other charities.

      Don’t diss a guy when you know nothing about him.

  3. antkowiak666 - Dec 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    if you don’t get a deal done soon,i’d say splitting up $0 is kinda easy.

    • blomfeld - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:33 PM

      yes and no friend … while it may be “zero” for the players, I would argue that at least 18-20 x owners (ie: corporations) will be experiencing an “improved” P&L bottom line this year with no hockey … sad but true …

  4. ducksk - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    Hawk, not down on him as a person! He’s a good man, I know! Just saying tired of these guys popping their heads up and takin their shots. But calling this nonsense when your making 2.5 as 3rd liner at the end of your career? “Come on man”

    • hawkeedawg - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:46 PM

      Ducks OK were cool.
      IMO though, NHL players get paid the least of the 4 sports and they have to be in better shape than any athlete in football, baseball or basketball; top to bottom. Their bodies go through way more punishment than in any other sport. They also have the shortest off season of the 4 sports.

      So I don’t begrudge any NHL players salary. 1st liner making huge $ or 4th line 5 minute guy, making league minimum.

  5. pastabelly - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    NHLPA went from 57% to 50%. What have the owners given back?

    • bhawksrule - Dec 10, 2012 at 11:23 PM

      The old cba is expired. They aren’t moving from 57% to 50%. Once September 15th hit and no CBA was agreed to the players are making 0%.

      They’re moving from 0% to 50%. 50% sounds better than 0%. And that’s just HRR…..

  6. ducksk - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Yea, and I lost my pension and health care. And my neighbors jobs moved to china. And the rich get richer. And you and 700 of the best athletes in the world are saying it stops here. Now, with us. Godspeed on that one fellers. Welcome to the new world.

  7. ducksk - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    I’m with the players, they are across the board the finest men and pro athletes out there. Bar none. But, at what point do you fight for the best you can and call it a game? Or do you continue to fight the fight and die on your sword. The owners are not going to budge much. They are business men, most are fine men too, but it’s all about the bottom line for them. 2012 the new world order.

  8. ducksk - Dec 10, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    Agree. Get all you can. But a lot at risk here more on the players side. Blom is right, there are many teams making $ now because they are not loosing it. Owners have massive fortunes and hire the best accountants and lawyers. Tough match up. Like me vs chara. I mean Mr. Chara.

  9. csilojohnson - Dec 10, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    Nobody said out would be easy.
    Still people will wake up this morning and look down on earth from a space station. I think these negotiations were more then manageable.

  10. finfan88shark - Dec 11, 2012 at 2:30 AM

    Pastabelly The NHLPA has never moved to 50% there offer eventually after 4 years get their. But the PAs first official offer was for a 57-43 split in the NHLPA. They later. Made a second offer (the players) which was widely publicized and that offer was 56 – 44 for players. The owners meanwhile moved from 43 to 50% in their publicized offer. The players talked 50% but have gotten nowhere near it in offers.

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