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Miller denies calling out Jacobs during meeting

Dec 7, 2012, 3:47 PM EDT


One of the juiciest anecdotes following Wednesday’s players-owners meeting was the one where Buffalo Sabres goalie Ryan Miller allegedly got into it with Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs.

Just one problem —  Miller says it didn’t happen.

“I may have been passionate but there was no disrespect or calling out one owner by name,” Miller told the Buffalo news via text message. “I have a lot of respect for any owner because they are a big part of hockey.”

Miller said his response came after owners wanted to leave the meeting and “pull everything we spent a full day on.”

One of the most vocal union members throughout the work stoppage, Miller has pushed the envelope on a variety of issues thus far:

— He wanted moderate owners to speak up during labor negotiations and blasted “this monopoly 4-5 owners have had on deal making.”

— He pushed for the players’ union to decertify.

— He said missing a season would be a “blatant disregard for the sport, the fans.”

In the closing part of his text, Miller explained why and how the NHLPA made the moves it did:

“I wanted more than anything to make a deal but we are not professional negotiators. We as players didn’t have the experience or authority to make a final deal. We were trying to responsibly move this process forward as best we could.

“If anyone thinks that we did wrong by the game or by the fans then they are misinformed. We have a responsibility to about 750 players and we made moves approved by them and thinking about them.”


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  1. pftbillsfan - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:00 PM

    This is lunacy. I live in Buffalo where Hockey is actually relevant but I travel the country for work. I can tell you that Hockey is at the same level as MLS, which is not an overly enviable position to be in. Throw in perceived greed, redundant rule violations ( clutching, grabbing, etc) and I start to believe Hockey has a self sabotage mission underway. Owners screwed up last time with a CBS that was too generous and now the players need to realize they’re going to lose. No leverage whatsoever, even with decertification everyone knows the appellate courts will side with the league because it is a conservative court.

    • Joey Dumbfeld - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM

      The Buffalo Sabres are relevant?? since when??

    • supercoop8 - Dec 8, 2012 at 4:33 PM

      As relevant as the MLS? No need for blatant lies, congrats on traveling the country for work; good on your observations.

  2. jaredphi - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Jacobs is one of the biggest – if not THE biggest – problem in these negotiations.

    I don’t even think he LIKES hockey. I’m willing to bet he views his team as just a business – just a cash cow machine for profits.

    If he actually cared about the sport, he’d be more accommodating and willing to negotiate and to give concessions to get this whole lockout resolved and to get the game going again as soon as possible.

    Someone please buy the Bruins from him…maybe attempt a hostile takeover or something and then force his a$$ out.

    • zetaone - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      You know this because you’ve been in all of the meetings, and are speaking from first hand knowledge and not just speculation pulled from your own ass?

      • id4joey - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:51 PM

        zetaone, what the hell is your problem? Can’t the guy have an opinion without hearing smack? Just back off zacho.

      • Joey Dumbfeld - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:56 PM

        now now you two little girls , kiss and make up !

      • id4joey - Dec 7, 2012 at 5:04 PM


    • jimw81 - Dec 8, 2012 at 12:31 AM

      this is the same guy who made his own employees buy their own Stanley cup rings so he could save money from IRS

      • gallyhatch - Dec 8, 2012 at 8:58 AM

        He did? Not according to my source. (Jesus, now I sound like Blom…. But hold on “friends” as I unveil my source to you all!)
        My Bruins sales rep told me she had to personally pay the taxes on her ring (around $1600 I think) but that the team paid for the ring itself. What’s your source?

        I’m not pro owner here, I’m a b’s fan and despise Jacobs, but I think you may be misinformed.

  3. gekkoguy82 - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    “We as players didn’t have the experience or authority to make a final deal.”

    What kind of crap is that? I realize they’re not professional negotiators or businessmen, but it’s the PLAYERS ASSOCIATION. They have the ultimate authority, NOT Fehr. He is there to carry out their wishes, not the other way around. If they heard enough to be satisfied, they need to pull the trigger. Lawyers can work out the details. I don’t know, JMHO..

  4. sportsfan69 - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Cancel the season now! Teach the players a lesson in life. Make it two years, then they’ll be happy to play the game of hockey.

    Their high school education will guide them through life.

    Sanitation or construction work is picking up. Hey, your already in good shape.

    You can whine with the co-workers in construction. You can demand for a “make whole provision”. I’m sure that’ll go over real well.

    • id4joey - Dec 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM

      A little harsh but the idea of teaching them a lesson is good. Maybe they can teach them a lesson by canceling all games until mid Jan like valoisvipers suggested.

    • tatdue - Dec 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

      Yes how dare those awful greedy players not give in to those wonderful, care about nothing but the game, billionaire owners on everything they demanded. We all know that money means nothing to those billionaire owners, obviously they are just doing this for the benefit of the game and only have the fans best interest at heart! You all remember how much they lowered ticket prices after they got their way in the last CBA right? Gotta love them…….Oh and of course we all know that for sure if they get their way yet again (third times the charm) they will never have to lock out the players again and they will all live happily ever after….. :)

      • valoisvipers - Dec 8, 2012 at 12:26 AM

        By Jove I think Tatoo has finally got it.

  5. sampulls - Dec 7, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    Miller = Donkey

  6. id4joey - Dec 7, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    tatoo, owners sign the cheques, and employees cash the cheque. Does this make sense? Yes. Ok. 13 teams lost money last year. Why would they want the same CBA? To lose more money? No. So, now you get it right. Good.

    • tatdue - Dec 7, 2012 at 7:35 PM

      Ya, I know, I know Joey, go figure it’s the same teams that claimed they have been losing money every time the CBA comes up for renewal…..Tell me this Joey, how long would you hang on to an investment that lost millions every year? One year….three years if you’re rich, maybe even five if you are stupid and very rich (although that combination doesn’t happen much I’m sure)? Well these ba$tards have been claiming they have been losing money for at least twenty years now….How long are you going to keep believing them? How many smart business men hang on to failing investments that long? NONE, that’s how many! It’s called creative accounting……Hell Greg Jamison’s bending over backwards trying to buy Phoenix, have you ever wondered why? Every team makes money in one way or another whether it be an arena deal, or a tax write off, or something else, they all make money….so quit fooling yourself!

      • blomfeld - Dec 8, 2012 at 2:13 AM

        Tatdue – With all kidding aside, I agree with what you’re saying 99%, as that’s unfortunately the way it probably is ?

      • valoisvipers - Dec 8, 2012 at 11:22 AM

        The arena’s other business might give the owner profit but why should they lose on the hockey part of the business?

    • drmonkeyarmy - Dec 7, 2012 at 10:13 PM

      What proof do they have of money lost? Their word…….sorry not good enough to me. Open the books to an independant accounting firm. Lets see where they really stand.

  7. acieu - Dec 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    Donkey =Miller

  8. id4joey - Dec 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    They all make money I don’t think so. In your dreams, less than 20 years ago the Nordiques became the Avs. Why? Because they were making so much money that they couldn’t handle it. Jacobs made 3mill last year. Woopy doo. Still better than writing a check for 1mil to cover your loses. These guys are filthy rich, and they didn’t become rich by having more debits than credits. If Jameson is working hard to buy the Yotes it’s because he knows they’ll be eventually moving in a hockey market and eventually the value will go up, unlike the players value over time which only depreciates.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Dec 7, 2012 at 10:14 PM

      Again, where is the proof of these losses?

      • valoisvipers - Dec 8, 2012 at 12:21 AM

        Try reading Forbes sometimes or even the articles here at PHT there is enough proof or we would be playing hockey right now.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Dec 8, 2012 at 7:59 AM

        Have the books been scrutinized by an independant accounting firm? Yeah, didn’t think so.

    • rainyday56 - Dec 8, 2012 at 3:07 AM

      Jamison is champing at the bit to buy the Coyotes because the keys to the door comes with an annual cheque of $15 M from the City of Glendale.

      • valoisvipers - Dec 8, 2012 at 11:26 AM

        That Glendale cheque will help pay for a couple of players, now how does he pay the other 23?

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