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Report: NHLPA requests federal mediation…again

Dec 6, 2012, 2:35 PM EDT

Nine days after the NHL and NHLPA first met with federal mediators, the topic of mediation has been re-introduced.

That’s the word out of New York on Thursday as Sportsnet’s John Shannon reports the NHLPA has requested the return of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, the group that met with the league and players’ union over a two-day stretch in late November.

As for how that request was received? Uhh…

NHLPA has asked NHL to bring mediators back into the process. League has not agreed to this point…

— Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun) December 6, 2012

Yeah, clear as mud.

On Nov. 28, the NHL and NHLPA met with a panel of mediators assigned by FMCS director George H. Cohen, comprised of FMCS Deputy Director Scot L. Beckenbaugh (acting director of the FMCS during the NHL’s last lockout), Director of Mediation Services John Sweeney and, for a brief moment, a mediator named Guy Serota — who was quickly removed once it was learned he had a super creepy Twitter account.

After two days of mediation, talks broke off and both the NHL and NHLPA released statements claiming “no progress” had been made.

Update: From Mullen, here’s NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly, who confirmed the NHL is supposed to meet with the NHLPA this afternoon…

  1. cavafox - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Stick a fork in it….

  2. Joey Dumbfeld - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    the players need to grow up

    • elvispocomo - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM

      Because they wanted independent help to move negotiations forward and the owners said no? You’re name makes sense now.

    • badintent - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM

      Maybe we can get that guy that won the Nobel Peace Prize a while back to resolve this little boys in the sandbox charade. He jawboned the NBA real good and even the NFL too. Funny, he’s not a fan of hockey though. Can we have him meet Carter and Subband ? Maybe he’ll take a break from his March Madness bracket to help out. Or we can stick with Curling on Sportsnet, EH ???

  3. bricktop02 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    It’s over Jonny!!!

  4. thailer35 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    So sick of this ridiculousness.

  5. capesouth - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    Stalemate on the last few issues.

  6. Stiller43 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    Is it a coincidence once fehr gets back everything goes to hell when it seemed so promising?

    • woodstakes - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      ~shrug~ same logic could be placed on Bettmans return…

  7. spiciercheez - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    Thanks for nothing dicks!

  8. matt8204 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    This is beyond silly now. Didn’t you just reach the conclusion that mediation wasn’t working? What a circus.

  9. zuke13 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    Once again another emotional hockey roller coaster

    • badintent - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM

      Oh yeah, great drama. This keeps up any longer, it will make the Kardashians look like Oscar winners for Best actors.The great news is the LFL is still on ………… oh , it’s cancelled too. Looks like Ice fishing again boys

  10. sportsfan69 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    As a fan, I’m pi$$ed off. This is totally on the NHLPA now. Yeah you guys. Nobody else. This is obnoxious and down right disgraceful.

    I agree with Boomer on Sirius radio. I’m jaded now. You guys received everything you wanted. Wake up.

    Launch Operation Valkyrie, remove The Fehr brothers. Save the NHL.

    I’m with the NHL owners now.

    Cancel The Season.

    • woodstakes - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:07 PM

      The players “received everything they wanted.”.. really?? How do you see that? Where is it in this CBA are the players better off than they were in the last one? There is only one side that has “gotten” anything… the owners. The owners have given NOTHING.. they’ve only moved from a previous demand. In what world is that the players getting everything they wanted?? If the players got everything they wanted then they would have just gotten a carbon copy of the last CBA extended for another 6+ years.

      • valoisvipers - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:39 PM

        Neither side has given up anything as there is no new or old agreement. We all know how the end game will play out. Owners will out wait the players because they can afford to. So let the players cave and the games begin.

      • jtrain1966 - Dec 8, 2012 at 10:00 AM

        Who are you kidding ? It’s like Jamie Allison said on That’s Hockey on TSN : the players just need to sign the deal ; because the owners CAPOLIGISTS will find ways to circumvent anything in any new CBA !

    • killerpgh - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:11 PM

      I don’t know who Boomer is but he must be an idiot if he thinks the player got everything they wanted. Less HHR and contract restrictions are the 2 most talked about issues. And the NHLPA is rumored to have given up ground on those issue. Do you honestly believe that is what the player wanted?

  11. kantnockdahustle89 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    I think I hate Twitter for all of this game playing they are doing and us finding out so quickly. Id rather read an article on it a few days after it happened. The times of “now, now, now” have made this harder on the fans.

    • f2maestro - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:02 PM

      …and who’s to say any of what is being ‘reported’ on Twitter is accurate? Just because some reporter with 10,000 followers says it’s so doesn’t make it true or valid. The only people who know what is going on in that room are the people on the inside, not the people waiting outside…

  12. aventador12 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM


  13. islesjb - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    I can’t stand this fkin garbage anymore. When it looked like they were finally, “locking themselves in a room until a resolution was reached,” like the fans have been pleading them to do for months, they start up with this shT again.

    What happened to leaving the media out of it? Don’t release anymore statements until that statement is, “we’re decided to stop being a bunch of selfish greedy dkheads and have signed a new CBA- pucks dropping Dec 20th.”

  14. fortwaynekomets - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    cancel the season. save us the stress.

    players get a WAY worse deal if the season is cancelled. Wake up players!!!

  15. antkowiak666 - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    the NHL is the laughing stock of the entire sports world.this is kinda embarrassing being a fan of such an inept league.

    • lostpuppysyndrome - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:52 PM

      No, that honor still rests with the NBA. Stern did, after all, fine a team for allowing their star players to sit out a game and rest after playing 4 away games in 5 days. However, Stern and Bettman are cut from the same cloth so it’s not out of the realm of possibility yet.

  16. gekkoguy82 - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    This is all so unreal and so sad. It’s just incomprehensible to me how both the owners and players can be so foolish and out of touch with reality to let the league get to where it is today.

  17. mrpickled - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    Strike first strike hard no mercy sir!!!!!

  18. btlpper68 - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    This is ridiculous with these clowns it’s 1 step forward 2 steps back

  19. lostpuppysyndrome - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    I suppose it’s a step up from walking away altogether but COME ON already…

  20. chrisvegas - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    I love how Bettman comes back to the negotiations and they immediately head south. He needs to be replaced.

  21. notsurewhy2 - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    another reason i love NASCAR no labor union

  22. Joey Dumbfeld - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    the players are a joke in this case , they shouldnt even be getting paid what they did 8 yrs ago, let alone now . this “sport” is cooked now

    • woodstakes - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM

      I see… so owners can make as much money as possible but those responsible for making them that money should not make more as revenues increase?? People who are employed and help a company make IDK another $1B+ in revenues shouldn’t get raises either I suppose? We should all just be happy we get any pay, right? Players should be making ’80’s money and the owners should make 2012 money.. sounds about right! Your name says it all… just drop the Joey and feld part pretty much sums it up! Somehow its ok for the filthy rich to get richer but its not ok for the those who make them richer to get a piece of the pie. Are there players who are overpaid.. sure, but in what industry doesn’t this happen in.. its the way it is. Fact is the players are the product and w/out them the owners no longer have a team to own. The players will ALWAYS find some rich guy to buy/own a team.

      • valoisvipers - Dec 7, 2012 at 10:10 AM

        @woodstakes “The players will ALWAYS find some rich guy to buy/own a team.”
        Well friend they do indeed say a sucker is born every minute but not every sucker has a billion dollars. So no I don’t think that there are a glut of billionaires lining up to buy the Coyotes or any team that they will lose money on. How about this idea then, have the top paid player from every team chip in to buy the Coyotes then they can be player owners and see for them selves which side of the CBA is fairer than the other.

      • jtrain1966 - Dec 8, 2012 at 10:19 AM

        Come the #%+= ON MAN ! They were making 57% of revenue, why in the hell should they get more ? They already have everything handed to them, like airfare, hotels, equipment, per diem, & anything else they can whine to the owners about not having to pay for ! So if you ask me ; Is 57% enough ? I would have to say it’s to much, with all the stuff the owners have to pay for the players should consider themselves lucky they’re getting 50% & not 43% like the owners have been dealing with !

  23. mgp1219 - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    Funny how id4joeyblomfeld didn’t predict this. his sources must have had a day off.

  24. bloominoctober - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM

    The NHL won’t decide on mediation until after both sides meet again. There won’t be any mediators in this evenings meetings. NHL and NHLPA are set to meet at around 5pm ET. Mediators will be decided on after that meeting (if they’re even necessary at that point). The fact that there are a number of players returning from Europe, my gut tells me a deal will be done and announced soon.

    • id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:59 PM

      Oh! Oh! You use guts to make predictions, and I use sources/voices in my head/NY. Good luck surviving the onslaught of rhetoric that will hail on you like bullets during the St. Valentine Day’s massacre.

  25. sportsfan69 - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:49 PM

    Listen on Sirius NHL with Thistel and Boomer. It’s on in the afternoon.

  26. irokkit - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    Daly says “…we won’t know if we need mediators.”

    For crying out LOUD!!! Really, lead counsel doesn’t know. Hmmmm

    And is there any cause for additional questions as to why we are not playing? NO!!!! Emphatically NO!!!!
    Anyone who has the ignorance to fault any player for not agreeing to terms of an (cattle driver) owner is void of clear thinking. Wear the skates, then voice your opinion.
    I guarantee it will change.

    • id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 5:04 PM

      Hmmm! That’s not what my sources told me. The NHL has not agreed to a mediator yet and has “no idea” why a mediator is needed “at this point in time.”

      • Joey Dumbfeld - Dec 6, 2012 at 5:10 PM

        you’re a joke , we all laugh at you you’re merely just here for entertainment purposes , you have no sources , no friends no insides and … no balls lol

  27. acieu - Dec 6, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    My sources tell me Joey is right on the money with his sources.

    • id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 5:23 PM

      Lol. Too funny.

  28. Joey Dumbfeld - Dec 6, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    it’s looking more and more likely that’s there’s fixin to be noooooooooooo hockey this year

  29. sadhockeyfan - Dec 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    It’s not gonna happen! See ya next fall! I don’t need “sources”. I can read. Shame on you NHL. You destroyed a great sport 😦

    • id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM

      I think you and dumbfeld are a tad over mellow dramatic here. It would be a shame to lose a whole season, but to think that a 100 year old sport is going to die is over the top. Can it change the sport? Heck yes. Just like Eagleson’s shannigans changed the game forever.

  30. jaredphi - Dec 7, 2012 at 8:54 AM

    What a stupid-a$$ idea! They already tried mediators for two days and got nowhere with them.

    These idiots (owners and players) are now just going in circles.


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