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CBA meetings wrap for the night, will get back at it on Thursday

Dec 6, 2012, 1:22 AM EDT

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The NHL and NHLPA wrapped up what turned out to be a marathon session of bargaining very early Thursday morning.

After nearly nine hours of talks, the two sides called it a night just before 1 a.m. ET. Jets defenseman Ron Hainsey spoke briefly upon their conclusion saying, “We had a series of very candid discussions tonight and we plan on meeting again tomorrow.”

The NHLPA will meet internally before speaking with the league perhaps around noon.

With both sides keeping mum about what was discussed and the fact they’re getting back together tomorrow, you can only assume that things have finally gotten serious in regard to making a deal. For now, we’ll all be back on watch to see how things develop tomorrow.

  1. bluejacketsfan16 - Dec 6, 2012 at 1:27 AM


  2. Stiller43 - Dec 6, 2012 at 1:48 AM

    Great news!!!

  3. aklolzer - Dec 6, 2012 at 1:55 AM

    Eff u pens fans!!!

    • killerpgh - Dec 6, 2012 at 1:57 AM

      I hope your a scum bag Flyers fans. I can’t wait to get the hate back on.

      • bensawesomeness - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:18 AM

        I will admit, as a 3rd party observer, watching the two of your fanbases beat up on each other is entertaining

      • thailer35 - Dec 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM

        I second that!

  4. LoyalFan34yrsGoKings - Dec 6, 2012 at 1:58 AM


  5. blomfeld - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:00 AM


    Here in Vancouver, the local media today were pretty much unanimous in their belief that a deal is already in place and that “the announcement” is now just a mere formality ? I tend to agree with that sentiment, as things do seem to be finally falling into place … and about bloody time I might add ! Only an idiot would still believe that this delay to the start of the season wasn’t by design ? … of course it was ! What isn’t as crystal clear however, is the amount of “real” damage that’s been sustained due to this contrived impasse ? No doubt the Canadian teams will see “sell-outs” again right from the get go. But it’s those American teams in the “sunbelt” where the greatest threat of irreparable damage lies. Will people in places like Tampa, Miami, Dallas, Raleigh, Phoenix and Nashville, now come back in the “necessary” numbers needed to validate the aims of this “contrived” impasse ? Or will they simply say “piss on that Canadian crap” ? As an optimist, I for one sincerely hope that they do come back, especially the “good folk” down there in Arizona ! :) Time will tell I guess, just as it always does with most things in life ? But regardless, for sure “good times” are now only one or two sleeps away for us real hockey fans ! :)

    • williplett - Dec 6, 2012 at 6:22 AM

      “Only an idiot would still believe that this delay to the start of the season wasn’t by design ? … of course it was !”-Blommy

      Get bent, pal. Your act is WAY past it’s freshness date and so is that of joeyIdo69. You both lost all cred a while ago and look like total dickweeds.

      If the lockout ends, you had no solid insight, nothing to do with the outcome and you both failed in predicting the end of it.

      If you have any smarts, you should both (or you should, some people believe you are one and the same) lie low for a while and let the overwhelming dislike for you die down you start posting unpopular opinions again.

      • id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:14 PM

        What’s your point? Bernake, Greenspan, and others said deregulation and derivative wouldn’t cause a financial markets to crash, and yet they did. Many predicted Romney over Obama. What is your point exactly here?

      • williplett - Dec 11, 2012 at 1:27 AM

        I think you made my point with the way you have been acting today, joey. If this were the Gong Show Jamie Farr would have gonged you by now. If this were Showtime At The Apollo Sandman would have given you the hook long ago. If this were Survivor you would have been voted off early in the season.

        You get to have your say here, but so do the people who overwhelmingly thumb down your posts and debate you. They see a lackey for the owners who is pretending to have insider knowledge just to stir sh!t on a message board. You have been wrong for months. It is a fact. Looks like somebody called you out today for passing off a hockey writer’s work as insider info from your “sources”. Nobody needs that-or the persection complex that has come with it.

        Like I said, it looks like everybody-including yourself-could use a break from the id4joey persona. Just my humble opinion.

  6. whatthepuck2012 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:02 AM

    I can’t even sleep, I’m thinking about this do much. How sad is that?

  7. whatthepuck2012 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    Killer for us pens fans, the hate never truly leaves. :)

  8. orangeandblack67 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:09 AM

    Yeah the hate does never leave because your a bunch of trash talking girls that can’t back it up. For once Sindy Crosby’s whining actually accomplished something other then getting the refs to look the other way.

    • mpg44 - Dec 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM

      A flyers fan talking about some else whinning ? There’s an interesting concept!

  9. orangeandblack67 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:15 AM

    And as far as that scumbag comment, come across the state and say that and you’ll be treated to the same welcome party that the rangers fan got at Gino’s after the last winter classic. But then again you’ll probably have to travel a lot farther cause your most likely a bandwagon jumper from some city with no pro sports team of your own.

    • stakex - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:36 AM

      All this comment does is validate killerpgh’s comment, since this is the kind of comment you would expect from a scumbag. Making a threat to beat the hell out of someone over a game doesn’t make you cool… it makes you an idiot.

    • killerpgh - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:08 AM

      Born and raise just outside of Piitsburgh. Closer to the Airport if that helps. About a 15 minute ride to get into the city.

  10. whatthepuck2012 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:17 AM

    That was some rather hate-filled, whiny trash talking right there. Kudos on the hypocrisy! (Look it up)

  11. Stiller43 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:29 AM


    Why 67? Is that the last time you guys won anything substantial? I thought it was a teeny bit past that, but its been a while either way.

    • antkowiak666 - Dec 6, 2012 at 8:37 AM

      thats when they entered the league ya Douche!!

  12. ron05342 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:33 AM

    Gee, the story here doesn’t have any facts. Okay, I guess I will blog them here for you, Joe.

    Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
    What the NHLPA will like about NHL offer: status quo on UFA and salary arbitration.
    What NHLPA may not like about NHL proposal: $300M Make Whole, up from $211M offer, which more or less splits difference on NHLPA ask $393M.
    What NHLPA definitely won’t like about NHL offer: 5 year term limit on contracts (except 7 for own UFAs), 5% variance, 10 year term for CBA.

    My feeling is that Bob McKenzie is being overly pessimistic here. I think the players will be fine with both the “make whole” provision as it is right down the middle, and ultimately will accept the limits on UFA contracts as this follows the NBA model.

    It’s either that or no season and they will accept the same terms last year (except for “make whole” of course). Because the NHL is not going to cave on that. Not at all.

    • ron05342 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:44 AM


      Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
      Couple of other details emerging: NHL proposal for 10 year CBA term contains an opt-out clause after 8 years. So it could be an 8 year deal.
      Of the $300M NHL proposed for Make Whole, $250M is Make Whole and $50M is for pension funding that would not come out of the players’ share.

  13. orangeandblack67 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:36 AM

    Well first off I wouldn’t call it hypocrisy, more like speaking the truth. And yes I know what it means I am surprised you could actually spell it. Second of all stiller read up on your history and figure it out, typical pens fan jumping in after the scrum is well under way.

    • chizmo - Dec 6, 2012 at 8:39 AM

      is it really called a scrum if it’s done from the safety of a desk chair?

  14. fortwaynekomets - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:41 AM

    Both the Pens and Flyers suck!

    but its meaningless with NO HOCKEY LEAGUE.

    little eager fellas? you’re setting yourselves up hard, be careful.

  15. orangeandblack67 - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:41 AM

    We don’t make threats in Philly. Your more than welcome to come to the next game here and find that out for yourself. What does “killer” need all of PHT to fight his battles for him? Sounds like a certain # 87.

    • killerpgh - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:05 AM

      Is Giroux still blame his neck injury on Crosby?

  16. hotloinsofsid - Dec 6, 2012 at 6:11 AM

    how dare you speak of soup can sid the way you do orange and black butt plug. he once again is going to save this disaster of league from folding.

  17. ludacrish05 - Dec 6, 2012 at 6:29 AM

    I refresh my phone every 5 mins… I need better news… Come on guys, lets get the season going because I’m becoming depressed. #letsgocaps!

  18. concoursrider - Dec 6, 2012 at 6:57 AM

    So, lets say a deal gets done, what good was Fehr in the end? Curious to see if he’s fired because obviously he didn’t do his job if the players negotiated the deal.

  19. id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 7:10 AM

    Just saying it happened again.

    id4joey | Nov 21, 2012, 6:34 PM EST

    I don’t think Hamrlik is worth half the money of he’s being paid, but, welcome to Bettman’s NHL. This guy is right. The players have too step up and keep putting pressure on Fehr. The NHL won’t think twice about canceling the first 2 weeks of Dec if this persists. Another thrashed Bettman. Brandon Prust. 5 goals last year, and signed a $10 million deal over 4 years. Yikes! Welcome to Bettman’s NHL. You see folks. GB has been good for the players. Too good!

  20. id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 7:18 AM

    Tic toc tic toc. that’s the sound of the players time running out.

    Just saying…..

    id4joey | Nov 25, 2012, 12:45 PM EST
    Players are inching their way closer and closer to the owner’s demands to assess how much they can salvage. In essence they have until Dec 7th before the rest of the games in December are cancelled. This gives the PA ample time to make one, two, or maybe even three more proposals, with each one being closer to the owner’s demands.

  21. id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 7:22 AM

    Just saying…. Wow!

    id4joey | Nov 25, 2012, 6:51 PM EST

    Wait for the BOG on Dec 5th.. Too risky for the rest of the Dec games not cancelled yet. Dec 7th is the drop dead date for the next axe to fall. If they wait until the 5th they’ll have 2 days to come to terms. If it does go that far, and there is traction then I would expect the league to cancel only games scheduled for the 3rd week of Dec.

  22. id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 7:30 AM

    Just saying…

    id4joey | Nov 21, 2012, 5:44 PM EST

    On a positive note, the ASG, and games in Dec haven’t been cancelled yet. Will the ownership cancel either one to put pressure on the PA? Certainly canceling games in Dec will have a crushing effect on the union, and perhaps the final blow to break them. C’mon players. Think! Stop shooting yourselves in the foot.

  23. id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 7:35 AM

    Just saying…

    id4joey | Nov 21, 2012, 5:28 PM EST

    Three issues remain to be resolved; 1) $100 million gap between PA and ownership with respect to players share 2) free agency to be pushed out by a year 3) CBA length cannot be less than 6 years. The NHL will be celebrating its centennial anniversary in 2017, and will not want to risk a lockout.

    • valoisvipers - Dec 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM

      As you can all see The Great Joey has done it again and again and again and again and well you get it. The Great Joey sees all,knows all and tells all.

    • id4joey - Dec 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM

      Sh*t. Now commenters are going to think valoisvipers and id4joey is the same person. Thanks for the kudos. Glad you don’t feel threatened by my insights.

  24. dkphilly1122 - Dec 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Gotta love Pittsburgh fans……can’t wait for hockey to start back up and see how washed up Pittsburgh still is and how much better and younger the Flyers got. Giroux never blamed Cindy for his neck injury either, so get your facts right. Unlike Cindy, Giroux doesn’t cry and fights his battles. I love the whole 1975 thing too…..when was the last time Pittsburgh won the cup?? how many years ago now and they still act like it was yesterday. Normal people live in the present, not the past like Penguin fans. Pittsburgh, the other city in PA. Good luck being relevant.

    • lostpuppysyndrome - Dec 6, 2012 at 10:20 AM

      You’re right, Giroux whined about having his girly little wrists hurt by scary ol’ Sid. These guys wouldn’t aim their guns at him if he wasn’t a threat.

    • valoisvipers - Dec 6, 2012 at 10:37 AM

      dkphilly…Like the Pens won the cup in 2009 I will let you try and do the math. It’s less than 37 years ago or was that yesterday.

  25. hotloinsofsid - Dec 6, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    soup can sid is the savior of the nhl!!! everybody on here better send him a thank you card. especially you filthy fans. u can thank “the franchise” for ending the lockout. thats how great we are here in the city of champions!!!

    • valoisvipers - Dec 6, 2012 at 10:45 AM

      Maybe the Pittsburgh group (Sid, his agent Pat, Mario and the owner)gathered in NY are the voices in Joey’s head?

  26. orangeandblack67 - Dec 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Wait, can the pens fans please remind me who won last years playoff series?

  27. hotloinsofsid - Dec 6, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    remind us “franchise” fans the last time the filthy flygirls won anything relevant. 1967. u suck and soup can army rules this website

    • valoisvipers - Dec 6, 2012 at 2:57 PM

      It was 1975, 37 years ago but to some it was just yesterday.

  28. hotloinsofsid - Dec 6, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    oh my bad, its just so irrelevant at this point just like their entire team it really doesnt even matter what year it was.

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